Christopher
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VictimOfGrief said:
Well I wouldn't be in that situation as I made an informed decision before buying my moives.
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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Well I wouldn't be in that situation as I made an informed decision before buying my moives.
Phoenix
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Nicodimas said:
I dunno, maybe - competition from the creators of other blue ray players? The desire to attract more consumers to your brand of blue ray player? I mean it wasn't THE blue ray player versus THE HD-DVD player.
You act like there is no competition within a product line where there is growing interest for a product. If anything this pretty much guarantees a cheaper product better because the market has a single focus and all the manufacturers can start dealing with driving down component costs as opposed to hedging on whether or not the product they were producing would be purchased by consumers sitting on the sidelines.
Chittagong
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Christopher said:
:lol
twinturbo2
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:-(Phoenix said:
Dammit Sony...
UnholySpectacle
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For those of you who recently got movies in the HD-DVD B3G2F deal from Best Buy get on your swapouts fast. I wanted to exchange my unopened Pan's Labyrinth HD-DVD for the Blu version and in doing so they automatically charge you for your two free movies so people don't return all their non-free films. It makes sense but all I wanted to do was swap item for item yet the system won't let the salesperson do so without charging you for the free films. The guy hooked me up in the end and did a gift return without receipt, so all is well.
VictimOfGrief
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Cute.Christopher said:
VictimOfGrief said:
Pretty stupid.
Then again I would never have invested in a format that had only one CE backer against a Matsushita coalition.
But I can understand that some people let their desire for HD media take over and had to buy HD-DVD to either get HDM the most affordable way or to get the movies they wanted.
VictimOfGrief
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Or some of the movies that are ONLY on HD DVD like the Bourne series. Course who knows if that is going to change or not.avaya said:
VictimOfGrief said:
Shitty ... but:
1) That isn't a realistic comparison since 2 where already Blu, and only one was neutral.
2) I'd also realize that I was in the middle of a format war, and this was a possible outcome. That said, HD DVD has been losing for OVER A YEAR.
So how does that conflict with people that want one format? It sounds like you are whining because you chose the wrong side.
Things would be the same if the roles were reversed.
I just can't believe people are acting surprised, since HD DVD has been on the losing end for a LONG time. Things are actually MUCH worse in the territories outside the US.
Pristine_Condition
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VictimOfGrief said:
The regular contributers to this thread (on both sides of the divide) are being conciliatory, for the most part, so I don't see what you are talking about. Most of the bomb-throwers in here (on both sides) just appeared.
Besides, I think most Blu-ray fans know what it feels like to have a major studio back out. The Paramount switch wasn't too long ago, after all.
Basically, I'd recommend you lighten up. Everybody that's been following this news and this thread has known for a loooooong time that the format war could end with one side losing big at any time. Smart HD DVD owners have had a pretty realistic attitude toward this possibility for a long time, as they've seen the numbers coming down in Blu-ray's favor for a whole year.
Nicodimas said:
In my imagination, I see a lot of stockholders yelling "Buy! Sell! Buy! Sell!" into their phones like Tracy Morgan as the homeless guy in that old SNL sketch. :lol
VictimOfGrief
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Seriously I may just fucking go out tonight buy a god damn blu ray player tonight and call it good. jesus christ. :/
twinturbo2
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Hm, I may do this...JeFfRey said:
Nicodimas said:
Uhh, no? Nearly all of their HD-DVD "exclusive" titles were previously negotiated and had a "gentleman's agreement" to keep them exclusive when Warner went format neutral with Bewkes. You can read it up on the BD insider forum (or was it the thread on Bewkes?).
VictimOfGrief
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Paramount was a blip on the radar of which they'll eventually cave like every other studio and go Blu.Pristine_Condition said:
Warner accounted for like what... at least 20% of the movie base on either side?
Warner supported Toshiba the first time dvd war. Maybe they felt a need to give it a shot.
Oh i agree with Victim with the shady shit by Warner to wait like 13 days after chrismas before CES to annouce it. Same effect would have been to wait to may then go.
Oh yeah its business .../grin
Oh i agree with Victim with the shady shit by Warner to wait like 13 days after chrismas before CES to annouce it. Same effect would have been to wait to may then go.
Oh yeah its business .../grin
xS1TH L0RDx
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Chiggs said:
when i was at best buy i saw a lady snagging 5 hd-dvds, and i *almost* went up to her and broke the news. i had my box of tissues ready and shit.
VictimOfGrief
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Stage 5 process huh? what's that?DoctorWho said:
avaya said:
Ok, now that this is, for all intents and purposes, over, can we lose this talking point? HD-DVD has (or, in some cases, just had) some really awesome things going for it that have absolutely nothing to do with the price.
Online in every box, a menu system based on web-like frameworks, strong interactivity features are some other reasons people chose it. I know it's popular around here to think that people who wanted those things only liked them because it was on their chosen format, but I for one thought of them as reasons, in combination with the price factor, why if I was going to back either format it was the one that interested me.
Cosmic Bus
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Well, it was fun while it lasted, but this is where I step out of the high def game. I suppose in a sense, Warner is saving me quite a bit of money this year.
Wollan said:
Just saw it on the gaming side: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224453
Amazing news. It's as if the HD DVD group themselves are eating crow. I really wish we could listen in on the strangulating dialogue that led up to the cancellation.
Nicodimas said:
Actually, I'm not all that surprised for two reasons:
1) Assuming they could be taken at their word, the reason for a number of titles being delayed was due to waiting for the newest profile to be set in stone (so as to have equivalent features for their big releases).
Based on their CES promo video (leaked here a few days back), they seem to be good at their word. The titles are now being released since the profile is done.
2) Also assuming the could be taken at their word, they've said for months that this Christmas may sway them in either direction. Maybe if they saw something ... anything from HD DVD ... they would have went in that direction.
Instead, we saw huge discounts on HW (and decent ones on SW) ... with no real effect on the sales ratios. When you look at sales ratios outside of the US, its FAR FAR worse. HD DVD is being decimated.
When I saw the sales number recently ... the worse-case-scenario as far as BD appeared to be WB staying neutral. If anything, going BD seemed the logical move based on the mantra they've been spouting.
VictimOfGrief
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ok?SRG01 said:
Nicodimas said:
That was because WHV have a good relationship with Toshiba, after they both colloborated on DVD. WHV was forced to go neutral by Time-Warner as a measure proposed by Jeff Bewkes to Richard Parsons who was CEO at the time in 2005. Bewkes said Blu-ray has the better chance to be the winning format.
Steve Nickerson (now left WHV) had a gentelmen's agreement with the HD-DVD guys on Matrix, Batman Begins, Constantine. Maxpower1987, Blu-ray insider, is the source of this information. That was probably one of the reason's why he was removed from his position.
2 days after Bewkes becomes Time-Warner CEO, they go exclusive.
Segata Sanshiro
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It's a pop psychology thing. I wouldn't bother learning it, every idiot that learns it is another part of the problem.VictimOfGrief said:
VictimOfGrief
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not a big enough roll eyes for Wollan on the internet.neojubei said:
VictimOfGrief
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This I can agree with. Anyways.......... I guess I'll just bite the bullet and get a Blu-Ray player for my Birthday.Segata Sanshiro said:
Boy.... what a croc......
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