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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Snah

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OokieSpookie said:
People who are less bitter might disagree with you.

lulz.

Actually having theater quality video and sound is a pretty big fucking revolution to me. But, for those without a genuine theatre setup and are watching on a tiny 19" screen, hey, it may not matter to them.

But, for now, Blu-Ray is pretty much the biggest jump I've personally witnessed, coming from an owner with a 60+" screen.
 
_leech_ said:
I've seen it, and it's fucking amazing.

Don't forget though, there is two versions of it on Blu-ray. The original Blu-ray release (one of the firsts Blu-ray releases), and the newer remastered release. You definitely want the remastered release of course, it improves video that people found lacking on the first Blu-ray release. You can tell if it's newer remastered version because it features a Dolby TrueHD track that wasn't in the original labeled on the back.

I still need to pick it up myself for Blu-ray. I love this movie.
 
S

Shepherd

Unconfirmed Member
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Don't forget though, there is two versions of it on Blu-ray. The original Blu-ray release (one of the firsts Blu-ray releases), and the newer remastered release. You definitely want the remastered release of course, it improves video that people found lacking on the first Blu-ray release. You can tell if it's newer remastered version because it features a Dolby TrueHD track that wasn't in the original labeled on the back.

The one I am looking at is the Remastered one. Thanks everyone. Getting it now.
 

Ckid

Member
quest said:
Thank you for supporting what I am saying. The masses will not go for HDM making it a niche format. I don't have a player in my car but do have a portable unit which is great for trips or killing time like waiting at the doctors office.

Why should we care that soccer moms are going to keep watching dvds in mini vans. Ill stick with my 1080p blu-rays to watch on my $2000 tv.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
quest said:
Thank you for supporting what I am saying. The masses will not go for HDM making it a niche format. I don't have a player in my car but do have a portable unit which is great for trips or killing time like waiting at the doctors office.

eh I am not supporting what you are saying at all :lol

Portable DVD is like a discman these days... I have an iphone for audio/video on the go. You are not seeing the difference between home video and portable.
 

DJ_Tet

Banned
DVD offers a flexibility and pricepoint that Blu likely never will. That won't matter to me or us who love HDM, but there will be some who will choose to buy $5-$10 dvds and upscale them on their beautiful HDTV while still being able to play them in their kids bedroom, the car dvd 7 inch screen (where Blu's visual/audio difference won't matter) and save $10-$20 per movie.

You won't see Blu in Walmart for under $20 for a long time, if ever if the studios have their way, therefore DVD will always have that price advantage, plus the already existing infrastrucre advantage.

Nothing will kill CDs at this point, and it got so bad in that market that SACD is basically dead. MP3's also will not kill CDs. Can Blu kill DVD? It doesn't have to. I'm just hoping it can sell big enough not to be a niche market. As long as I can get every movie in HD I'll be happy.

I can envision a future where I don't, though. And it won't be digital downloads that keeps that from happening, it will be the monster that is DVD.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
Snah said:
lulz.

Actually having theater quality video and sound is a pretty big fucking revolution to me. But, for those without a genuine theatre setup and are watching on a tiny 19" screen, hey, it may not matter to them.

But, for now, Blu-Ray is pretty much the biggest jump I've personally witnessed, coming from an owner with a 60+" screen.

I have 3 hd-dvrs and 2 hd-tvs I like HDM very much. It still was not the upgrade I got going from vhs to dvd or cassette to cd. Having to replace my cassette tapes every few years really sucked. Nothing worse than that new cassette tape being eaten by the player in your car. I got pretty good at fixing my VHS tapes that would break on rewind. I also had to replace tapes of movies I loved every few years because they would just go to hell.

I like HDM movies but for me the best hd has to offer is sports. The NHL and NFL are 1000x better in hd. I have watched more NHL games in the last 2 years than the last 15 thanks to HD it makes the sport watchable on TV.
 
quest said:
I am not bitter I have had the same position before the news broke. If it is just bitterness I want to hear your counter argument.

No you don't, you want to hear yourself talk as it were.
People are going out spending thousands on tvs, pay extra money every month just for high def channels which offer the SAME content as they already have but in 1080i.
Hd tvs are coming down in price to make them affordable for everyone and that will continue.
In 2009 analog is dead.
You can already buy dvds for $5, and new releases for $12 on dvd, it has nothing to do with some consipiracy that the studios do not want to have cheap movies.
Even movies in theaters are moving on and 3d will become more and more common as will imax and people will want more than dvd offers.
People will want more out of their media, vod still has a very long time to go before it is viable, and even longer before you will see vod that also includes all of the extras that physical media brings and you will also see studios working to make the media experience different with things that vod can not.
People looove to talk about the average person.
I will tell you something about the average person because that is who I deal with every day at work.
The average person does not know what half of the things on their remote do, the average person is still using windows 98 or 2000, the average person barely knows how to turn their computer on and much less how to navigate unless it is spelled out for them.
The average person can barely use a dvr without writing instructions down, but the one thing that the average person DOES know is how to pop the disk in and hit play.
THAT is why there will always be solid media and that is why vod has a long road ahead of it.
 

tetsuoxb

Member
quest said:
CD was a revolution over cassette tapes that is the reason it won. MP3 was a revolution over CD that is why it won. DVD was a revolution hence winning. HD-DVD/blu/hd downloads is a evolution hence it won't win.

Wouldn't that mean, by corollary, that HDTV would have never surpassed SDTV were there not a government mandate for Digital Broadcasting?

I think your logic is severely flawed.
 

Borys

Banned
VictimOfGrief said:
Do you guys even remember what my tag said in the 'forever dumb' statement I made?

If not, I'll be disappointed.

Forever dumb in PC hardware threads, forever dumb in PC gaming threads, forever dumb in console threads, forever dumb in console gaming threads and now forever dumb in OT threads.

You are truly forever and ever dumb :lol
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
OokieSpookie said:
No you don't, you want to hear yourself talk as it were.
People are going out spending thousands on tvs, pay extra money every month just for high def channels which offer the SAME content as they already have but in 1080i.
Hd tvs are coming down in price to make them affordable for everyone and that will continue.
In 2009 analog is dead.
You can already buy dvds for $5, and new releases for $12 on dvd, it has nothing to do with some consipiracy that the studios do not want to have cheap movies.
Even movies in theaters are moving on and 3d will become more and more common as will imax and people will want more than dvd offers.
People will want more out of their media, vod still has a very long time to go before it is viable, and even longer before you will see vod that also includes all of the extras that physical media brings and you will also see studios working to make the media experience different with things that vod can not.
People looove to talk about the average person.
I will tell you something about the average person because that is who I deal with every day at work.
The average person does not know what half of the things on their remote do, the average person is still using windows 98 or 2000, the average person barely knows how to turn their computer on and much less how to navigate unless it is spelled out for them.
The average person can barely use a dvr without writing instructions down, but the one thing that the average person DOES know is how to pop the disk in and hit play.
THAT is why there will always be solid media and that is why vod has a long road ahead of it.


I want to know how many people you know who recieve analog OTA signal? Any one here use OTA for analog come on. People ditched antenas years ago that is such a weak argument. You think anyone who can't afford cable/sat will go out and buy a HD tv get real. They will get a cheap converter box if they really an analog OTA person.

Great the HDM will look great on the hd tv. That does not solve the issue of it not playing on the many other DVD players people have. People are cheap are not going to double dip for blu/dvd.

I agree downloadable has 0% of ever replacing DVD that is what I am saying.
 

RaidenZR

Member
OokieSpookie said:
Senior tech support for Brighthouse Networks and Road Runner( time warner cable)

Ah man, damn. Based on the type of crap you deal with all day, I'd bet you're one of the most patient people on the planet. :D
 

Flo_Evans

Member
Just an aside, my cable company just started rolling out their HD VOD service. I was actually pretty impressed with the bit-rate and startup times! Still only good for rentals and the content is pretty limited. Still need my discs!
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
tetsuoxb said:
Wouldn't that mean, by corollary, that HDTV would have never surpassed SDTV were there not a government mandate for Digital Broadcasting?

I think your logic is severely flawed.

Digital broadcasting does not mean HD at all. The 5 non HD people who recieve OTA can get a coupon for a converter box for like 25 dollars that will make thier old TV compatible with digital OTA.

I still wanna show of hands for people who have analog OTA. I live in the sticks no cable but there are dishes on all the houses these days.
 

Snah

Banned
quest said:
I have 3 hd-dvrs and 2 hd-tvs I like HDM very much. It still was not the upgrade I got going from vhs to dvd or cassette to cd. Having to replace my cassette tapes every few years really sucked. Nothing worse than that new cassette tape being eaten by the player in your car. I got pretty good at fixing my VHS tapes that would break on rewind. I also had to replace tapes of movies I loved every few years because they would just go to hell.

I like HDM movies but for me the best hd has to offer is sports. The NHL and NFL are 1000x better in hd. I have watched more NHL games in the last 2 years than the last 15 thanks to HD it makes the sport watchable on TV.

I'm not talking about 'convenience factor' here. I'm talking about picture and sound quality. Blu-Ray is a far greater leap in this regard.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
OokieSpookie said:
Senior tech support for Brighthouse Networks and Road Runner( time warner cable)

I work helpdesk/operations at a hospital I know exactly what you go through.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
Snah said:
I'm not talking about 'convenience factor' here. I'm talking about picture and sound quality. Blu-Ray is a far greater leap in this regard.

I would say it is no contest VHS was horrible. Go play a VHS tape if you still have a VCR then play a DVD. I really think people forget how awefull VHS looked. My father recently got a HD tv and I had to hook everything up. He still has a VCR for home movies. I put in starwars to test it to make sure it was up and running right. I wanted to poke my eyes out with a stick. It was staticky grainy noisy god it was just horrible. DVD sure there is micro blocking and not many details but it is 1000x better than VHS.
 
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=329

Now this isn't a comprehensive list at all, but what it does highlight is this: neither of us could, in good conscience, recommend either standard. Despite HD-DVD's more affordable pricing, you can't watch things like Casino Royal, Spiderman or Superbad in high definition on it, and that's just simply unacceptable. The same applies to Blu-ray, it doesn't matter what exclusive titles the format does have, because the ones that it doesn't are just as good.

Herein lies the problem I was outlining yesterday, this war is fought for industry members, it's fought for the Sonys and the Microsofts of the world, it's not fought for the people buying the movies. Honestly, the only options are to either support both formats or support none, backing one or another just doesn't make any sense unless you really hate all of the movies in one of the columns.

So basically, as consumers, it's wrong for us to pick one format instead of both :lol
 
quest said:
I want to know how many people you know who recieve analog OTA signal? Any one here use OTA for analog come on. People ditched antenas years ago that is such a weak argument. You think anyone who can't afford cable/sat will go out and buy a HD tv get real. They will get a cheap converter box if they really an analog OTA person.

Great the HDM will look great on the hd tv. That does not solve the issue of it not playing on the many other DVD players people have. People are cheap are not going to double dip for blu/dvd.

I agree downloadable has 0% of ever replacing DVD that is what I am saying.

People will evolve from dvd, there will always be stragglers but it will happen, the only people who say differently have an agenda.
You can look at the gaming market if you have to.
The difference between the xbox and the xbox 360 is pretty much a direct comparison to dvd and blu.
The difference is not a "revelation", games look better but it does not bring anything vastly different to the table.

You will see high definition media grow and flourish, and you will see vod working as an accent.
Those car dvd players will not have to worry about skipping because they will no longer have an optical drive and instead have a hard drive not unlike people have a cd but also grab it from itunes for their ipod for the road and when they run.
There will be cheap enough blu players for every room, and when 2.0 is widely available I believe that you will see an interesting sybiotic use of downloadable media tied to blu ray releases.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
OokieSpookie said:
People will evolve from dvd, there will always be stragglers but it will happen, the only people who say differently have an agenda.
You can look at the gaming market if you have to.
The difference between the xbox and the xbox 360 is pretty much a direct comparison to dvd and blu.
The difference is not a "revelation", games look better but it does not bring anything vastly different to the table.

You will see high definition media grow and flourish, and you will see vod working as an accent.
Those car dvd players will not have to worry about skipping because they will no longer have an optical drive and instead have a hard drive not unlike people have a cd but also grab it from itunes for their ipod for the road and when they run.
There will be cheap enough blu players for every room, and when 2.0 is widely available I believe that you will see an interesting sybiotic use of downloadable media tied to blu ray releases.

You only have to replace 1 console. You don't have to replace a bunch like a person has to with DVD. Also the Wii is kicking everyones butt:p. The average person just does not care about SQ/PQ that much. It is an after thought.
 

B-Ri

Member
quest said:
You only have to replace 1 console. You don't have to replace a bunch like a person has to with DVD. Also the Wii is kicking everyones butt:p. The average person just does not care about SQ/PQ that much. It is an after thought.

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you dont have to buy remakes of games?

comeon now, just stop this.
 

maharg

idspispopd
B-Ri said:
MS could release an add on, but it certainly wouldnt be sony manufacturing the player.

I dont doubt it will happen, but i feel its much more down the line, im sure partner companies wouldnt want to out and piss their BDA partner sony when this is something REALLY good for the PS3.

BR clearly matters more to Sony than the PS3 as a game platform at this point. I really doubt they wouldn't welcome all comers. Including MS.
 

Snah

Banned
So is anyone going to bet that Universal goes neutral at CES?

Penton-Man hinted that "one side was looking to change colors (warner), and another one looking to get highlights (universal)".

1/2 already came true...

I'm really anticipating how HD-DVD and their exclusive studios are going to react over the next few days.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
B-Ri said:
....

you dont have to buy remakes of games?

comeon now, just stop this.

I don't buy the exact same game with just better graphics. There are very few games were it is exactly the same except prettier graphics. There is always new levels, weapons, characters story line ect. That is pretty weak.
 

B-Ri

Member
quest said:
I don't buy the exact same game with just better graphics. There are very few games were it is exactly the same except prettier graphics. There is always new levels, weapons, characters story line ect. That is pretty weak.

you buy the blu-ray movie with better PQ, AQ, and more special features, commentary, ect. ect.

quit while youre way behind.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
B-Ri said:
you buy the blu-ray movie with better PQ, AQ, and more special features, commentary, ect. ect.

quit while youre way behind.

I am still waiting for a legit argument. Hell brining in video games were a SD console is wiping the floor with the HD ones is not smart.

Go back in history look at all the mass adoptions of new mediums. PQ/SQ is always a secondary reason why or not at all. Things like form factor and convience rule the day with the average person.

Hell there are ton of people who still buy pan and scam discs. People would rather degrade PQ than put up with black bars.
 

AmishNazi

Banned
quest said:
I am still waiting for a legit argument. Hell brining in video games were a SD console is wiping the floor with the HD ones is not smart.

Go back in history look at all the mass adoptions of new mediums. PQ/SQ is always a secondary reason why or not at all. Things like form factor and convience rule the day with the average person.

HDTV's. People don't like to have to fuck with the aspect ratio every time they want to play a DVD.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
AmishNazi said:
HDTV's. People don't like to have to fuck with the aspect ratio every time they want to play a DVD.


Eh? Most DVDs, even at Blockbuster, are the widescreen version. I haven't adjusted aspect ratio for a DVD in ever.
 

tetsuoxb

Member
quest said:
Digital broadcasting does not mean HD at all. The 5 non HD people who recieve OTA can get a coupon for a converter box for like 25 dollars that will make thier old TV compatible with digital OTA.

I still wanna show of hands for people who have analog OTA. I live in the sticks no cable but there are dishes on all the houses these days.

Way to miss the point while at the same time proving mine, champ. By your logic, HDTV should fail because it is merely an improvement in resolution over SDTV.

The counter argument you could have made was that people are forced into buying HDTVs for the Digital Transition. However, since you have basically shot your counter argument (and by corollary, yourself) in the foot, why exactly did HDTV succeed? It is merely an evolution of SDTV, isn't it?

And don't bother saying HDTV isn't a success... That would be a fool's errand, but one I suspect you'd embark on. Takuan Soho (a 17th century zen monk) said that a truly wise man need not appear wise because he is secure in his knowledge, nor does a true fool need appear as a fool, for he knows his limitations. It is the man who knows a little, but believes he knows much more, that is truly a fool.

Quit making a fool out of yourself.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
tetsuoxb said:
Way to miss the point while at the same time proving mine, champ. By your logic, HDTV should fail because it is merely an improvement in resolution over SDTV.

The counter argument you could have made was that people are forced into buying HDTVs for the Digital Transition. However, since you have basically shot your counter argument (and by corollary, yourself) in the foot, why exactly did HDTV succeed? It is merely an evolution of SDTV, isn't it?

And don't bother saying HDTV isn't a success... That would be a fool's errand, but one I suspect you'd embark on. Takuan Soho (a 17th century zen monk) said that a truly wise man need not appear wise because he is secure in his knowledge, nor does a true fool need appear as a fool, for he knows his limitations. It is the man who knows a little, but believes he knows much more, that is truly a fool.

Quit making a fool out of yourself.

Form factor is the reason why people are buying HD-tvs. People love the 3-4 inch thick LCD TVs out there. Getting rid of the huge CRT that hogs the living room makes the average person happy. If it was for the PQ/SQ we would see many more people using OTA with that new hd-tv. A 50 dollar investment for a life time of high quality programming second only to blu/hd-dvd. Since OTA reqires to what many consider an eye sore or the inconvience of putting up an externa antena. Or the cable box will not intragrate OTA into the box forcing people to the video select button on the TV remort which is to much of a hassle for most. They don't bother and instead run SD cable through that new flat screen tv.

All in all it is form factor that is getting people out there to buy hd-tvs.
 

smurfx

get some go again
i went to blockbuster today to rent a blu ray movie for the first time and i thought it would have a really weak selection and it ended up being the opposite. they had 3 pretty big rows dedicated to blu ray and 2 smaller ones to hd-dvd. to my surprise many of the movies i wanted to rent were rented out. i ended renting eight below simply because i saw it playing at best buy one day and it looked pretty good (pq). the movie was kinda boring but it looked real good at times.
 
bune duggy said:
to celebrate the purchase of your new Blu-Ray player, there's a new Best Buy $20-off coupon for 3 blu-rays and it's good through 1/14.

http://emailinfo.bestbuy.com/pp/edi...;1247561113;1;02&R=T1_CMP_9468&A=1007&ci=9468

Going to be getting 3:10, Con Air, The Rock, Sunshine, and two other movies that will be determined later but will probably be War and maybe another copy of Shoot 'Em Up for that GAFfer in Canada that can't find a copy.


I'd go to plattsburgh,NY to pick it up but wasting gas to pick a single thing, going through the annoying american customs, it's not worth it. But thanks for the thought! It'll probably come out this tuesday. Hopefully.


:lol
 

Witchfinder General

punched Wheelchair Mike
quest said:
I am still waiting for a legit argument. Hell brining in video games were a SD console is wiping the floor with the HD ones is not smart.

Go back in history look at all the mass adoptions of new mediums. PQ/SQ is always a secondary reason why or not at all. Things like form factor and convience rule the day with the average person.

Hell there are ton of people who still buy pan and scam discs. People would rather degrade PQ than put up with black bars.


That's 100% true, sadly.

Vinyl (and reel-to-reel tapes) are superior to every audio format you can name (including SACD and DVD-A) yet were supplanted by inferior formats due to convenience and size, not too mention "cool" factor.
 

antiloop

Member
Personally I think DVD and Blu-ray can co-exist just nicely. Those who prefer better image quality chooses BD. The rest can just buy DVD.

The 3rd alternative will be to download movies. For the lazy people that don't care about quality. :)

One of the 2 HD formats is redundant though and that's why in this case it seems HD-DVD has to go.
Why be forced to have 2 players for HD (all of them) when you can have 1?
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
antiloop said:
Personally I think DVD and Blu-ray can co-exist just nicely. Those who prefer better image quality chooses BD. The rest can just buy DVD.

The 3rd alternative will be to download movies. For the lazy people that don't care about quality. :)

One of the 2 HD formats is redundant though and that's why in this case it seems HD-DVD has to go.
Why be forced to have 2 players for HD (all of them) when you can have 1?

Exactly blu will be like laser disc and dvd will be like vhs. People value PQ/SQ will get HDM the masses will stick with DVD. Laser disc lasted what 20 years and had 1000s of titles. Just because a format does not win over the average joe does not mean they are a failure. I just get tired of people who think that suddenly people are going to flock to HDM.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
quest said:
Exactly blu will be like laser disc and dvd will be like vhs. People value PQ/SQ will get HDM the masses will stick with DVD. Laser disc lasted what 20 years and had 1000s of titles. Just because a format does not win over the average joe does not mean they are a failure. I just get tired of people who think that suddenly people are going to flock to HDM.

I think the only real problem is that it fragments things. If I want a movie I'll buy bluray as I want it HD for my home cinema. But then I don't have anything for the PC upstairs, I can't easily rip it for my ipod etc.

I (and I assume most people) don't want to buy it again on DVD, so I'm stuck. I'd probably just download it with a fairly clear concience for watching on those 'subset' devices, as long as its lower quality than the original that I've bought.

I don't see an easy solution. Studios won't package a DVD in the same case as you could feasibly sell it on.
 
quest said:
Exactly blu will be like laser disc and dvd will be like vhs. People value PQ/SQ will get HDM the masses will stick with DVD. Laser disc lasted what 20 years and had 1000s of titles. Just because a format does not win over the average joe does not mean they are a failure. I just get tired of people who think that suddenly people are going to flock to HDM.

Difference about Laserdisc and Blu Ray is that Blu Ray is more mainstream than Laserdisc.

Hell My parents know about Blu Ray, but Laserdiscs? What the hell was that. Since Hdtv's are getting more and more popular people will definetly get into the HD groove, but it's a matter of time I think.
 

btf1980

Member
Witchfinder General said:
That's 100% true, sadly.

Vinyl (and reel-to-reel tapes) are superior to every audio format you can name (including SACD and DVD-A) yet were supplanted by inferior formats due to convenience and size, not too mention "cool" factor.

What's your measure of the superiority of vinyl compared to SACD, DVD-A and even redbook, plain jane vanilla CD's? Can you explain it to me with facts? For all my years on Audiogon, AVS etc. Not one of the "golden eared" folk has done this with anything factual. It's pure subjective opinion and posturing to validate their expenses. It always ends up in how they "feel" the music, whatever that means. It's complete rubbish.

Sure many "audiophiles" go on and spout that vinyl is better because it's "warmer", "richer" etc. But all this is subjective to say the least, and is more affected by the kind of hardware/speakers you are using more than anything. It's one thing to prefer the sound of vinyl, some people do, it's another to say it is superior as a factual statement. It's not. The primary reason that vinyl proponents said it was better than the CD was because it can hit lower frequencies is a myth. It's irrelevant if it is true since the human ear cannot detect frequencies lower than anything CD's can hit. It's not perceptable to the human ear. It's one of the biggest misconceptions many so called "audiophiles" regurgitate, and most of them don't even know why, it's just one of those things. It's right up there with thousand dollar speaker cables.

There is nothing inferior about SACD, DVD-A and CD's compared to vinyl.
 

madara

Member
So has Warner announced those HD only titles for BR yet? From some crazy deals I got Batman Begins, Heroes, Ultimate Matrix and Smallville. Trying figure out what I am going do with them.
 

Oni Jazar

Member
madara said:
So has Warner announced those HD only titles for BR yet? From some crazy deals I got Batman Begins, Heroes, Ultimate Matrix and Smallville. Trying figure out what I am going do with them.

Heroes is Universal.
 

bill0527

Member
DJ_Tet said:
You won't see Blu in Walmart for under $20 for a long time

I was just in Wal-Mart 2 nights ago and they had Harry Potters 1-4 on Blu-Ray for $18.98 each. I should have taken a cell phone pic.

Their website shows them around $25 each, but they've also got several Blu-Ray movies listed under $20.
 
What a mad few days it's been. I'm very happy with the news and the hopeful swing to a unified Hidef format much sooner rather than later. It certainly gets the ball rolling.

I'm not a big movie fan by any means and never would have invested in a standalone HD player until a) there was a definite winner and b) player prices were reasonable vs the risk. However owing a PS3 made the decision a no brainer and it's gave me a much greater interest in films tenfold. Seeing a film in def def makes it all that much more enjoyable. I've only in fact bought 1 DVD this last year and all my purchases are Blu-ray now.

When Paramount shifted to HD I was rather disappointed by their decision in that this war would be going on a lot longer than it should, having no intention to invest in HD. So seeing Warner shift has been the day I've been waiting for ever since. Although I can totally see it from the other perspective if it had gone the other way. I'd have been much less inclined to pick up any more HD movies. However, as it now looks like Blu will be the standard, I'll have much more confidence in my HD buying and can only hope the other studios soon follow so we can all enjoy HD movies to their fullest.

Although watching it all unfold has been rather fun. I do think though that having the 2 formats in the short term has had it's benefits but I can only see that having a 2 format war in the long term as nothing but bad. Sooner this is over the better.
 
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