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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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polyh3dron
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Kolgar said:
Stop right there.
The HD DVD Group paid Paramount a large sum of money to go against the market. They sided with the lower-selling format which DID prolong this format war when HD DVD had no chance of winning anyways.
ManaByte said:
While I generally agree with this (specifically the issue of blowing their wad) ... you are making the assumption that they'd be starting from scratch.
Who's to say that the transfers themselves haven't been done for quite some time? That would mean it would really only be the menuing and BDJ stuff that needs to be done.
I was under the impression they've made HD transcodes for broadcast of all these movies.
polyh3dron said:
Yup.
The war started showing signs of being over ever since the PS3 launched and HD-DVD couldn't recover for over half a year. The nail in the coffin was 300 outselling the HD-DVD version 2:1.
HD-DVD had basically no shot at that point, yet they tried to continue prolonging the war by moneyhatting Paramount. Going forward into the holiday season, they had to know that the PS3 would have a big push at retail and they couldn't do anything to stop it.
They could have saved a bunch of money not courting Paramount, or discounting and producing cheap players, and dragging this war on. As I've said before, the Paramount decision only prolonged the inevitable.
Onix said:
I would expect Indiana Jones to hit on Blu-Ray during the release of the Crystal Skull. It only makes sense, and I can't wait.
They're not going to sit on their catalog releases when the Crystal Skull release gives free publicity to the original trilogy.
Fox did it with Die Hard.
This is probably olde, but all the major players are obviously hedging their bets (if true):
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=asfuyhaPNAGc&refer=home
Makes sense - occured to me that the inclusion of portable versions of movies on Blu Rays would be another reason to spend more than you would on a rental or digital download and keep the disc.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=asfuyhaPNAGc&refer=home
Makes sense - occured to me that the inclusion of portable versions of movies on Blu Rays would be another reason to spend more than you would on a rental or digital download and keep the disc.
DarkJediKnight
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Loudninja said:
Sounds like good news.
Stinkles said:
Hedging their bets makes it sound like they expect it to be a one or the other end-game.
I believe this is more of an eggs in more than one basket scenario. I'm under the impression studios expect the future to include multiple viable media procurement options. They expect to make money off of DVD, HDM, DD, and onDemand models all at the same time.
Things arent quite so black and white anymore. There is a huge variance in consumer usage of media, as well as what particular procurement models they have available to them (or are willing to pay for). It is quite unlikely we will ever again see a day where one media procurement model completely dominates.
LunaticPuma
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Stinkles said:
Does anyone really think Apple will offer 720p or 1080p movies? Currently all of their stuff is 480p right?
I can see them starting a service, but I doubt it will offer the same quality as blu-ray for a while.
Also, what do you think is harder for the average consumer? To properly hook-up a blu-ray player for HDM movies or setting up a wireless network within their home to get movies from Apple?
Onix said:
I used that idiom because I still think that movie studios would rather sell objects than data. They are good at marketing and bad at making films. In their minds it's easier to market a bad film well than make a good film in the first place. That reduces their reliance on excellence and mitigates risk.
The studios don't like the apparent portability of data, and they are stuck in this Lawyer mindset that they should concentrate primarily on finding ways to prevent the enjoyment of their content, rather than investing in ways to help people enjoy it.
Karma Kramer
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holy shit this thread is big
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Snah said:
Maybe.
Depends on what you've heard, and how you see it.
Maybe Paramount was simply bought. Or maybe there was more to it.
I've read posts from insiders who've said Warner and FOX were little more than a "pen click" away from going HD DVD.
Is it true? I have no idea of knowing.
Thus, I have no grounds to argue.
I'd rather put all that behind me anyway, and just enjoy the movies.
ManaByte
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Onix said:
Lucasfilm is currently remastering ALL of the Star Wars movies (1-6) for digital 3D releases through Lowry Digital Images (same company who remastered them for the DVD releases, as well as Indiana Jones). The masters done for the 2K digital projection in 3D are what will then be used for the High Definition release.
The 1080i HD broadcasts on Cinemax are the transfers that were done for the current PT and OT DVD releases that Lowry did, and the new HD masters they're doing for the 3D releases will be so much better Lucasfilm is waiting for THOSE to use for the 1080p HD release.
Of course, the HD release will have more changes to the movies; such as the CG Yoda in Episode I, which does not exist in the current HD cable broadcast version.
They are saving the 3D releases to build hype for the live action TV series. There is no HD home video release of Star Wars in 2008.
Cheesemeister
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ManaByte said:
Well, so much for the monoscopic media paradigm. Bring on stereoscopic.
NekoFever
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No-one should hold their breath for Star Wars. Lucasfilm always marches to the beat of its own drum and judging by how damn long it took them to bring Star Wars and Indy to DVD (2004 and 2003 respectively, bearing in mind that DVD came to market in 1997), it'll happen when they feel like it.
Of course I'd expect to see HD Indy 4 in time for Christmas, but it still wouldn't surprise me if that's the only Indy we see unless they use the Lowry masters from the DVDs.
Of course I'd expect to see HD Indy 4 in time for Christmas, but it still wouldn't surprise me if that's the only Indy we see unless they use the Lowry masters from the DVDs.
Yes. They were on the re-issues in 2006 (?), but it was literally the same non-anamorphic transfer that was used for the last Laserdisc versions.Laurent said:
centracore
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NekoFever said:
If I remember correctly, I had read an article before the release of the Star Wars original trilogy on DVD stating that they also received HD masters for 'future releases' - hopefully they did the same thing with the Indiana Jones trilogy.
Pristine_Condition
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DarkJediKnight said:
Sounds like good news.
Oh HELL YEAH. I wasn't even thinking of that when the HBO deal was announced, but I'd buy a Rome box set in a heartbeat. That show rocked.
I hope they will just go ahead and release the full set at once in one box, rather than do a two-box, season one/season two thing...
Awesome story. Great acting. Tons of brutal violence. Political intrigue. Lots of sex. Indira Varma and Chiara Mastalli in clingy outfits (or nothing at all) ...what more do you want?
CajoleJuice
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Nintendo fans are scarier. (Proof mentioned a few posts above)Culex said:
DarkJediKnight
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Pristine_Condition said:
Hey! Don't talk about my wife that way!
DarkJediKnight
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bud said:
It's not even on the same league. And I'm a Day 1 Lost fan.
Pristine_Condition
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Stinkles said:
I agree with Stinkles on this.
...
I. Agree. With. Stinkles.
Wow. I had to roll that around in my head for a while...It just didn't sound right. :lol
Pristine_Condition
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Stinkles said:
Aww, shucks.
Just for the record, I did buy your game, day one.
DarkJediKnight
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Kintaco said:
You can bet the lawyers are hard at work going over all possible exit strategies. It will take some time, but it won't be long. I say late Q1 at the latest.
Pristine_Condition
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Kastro said:
You must.
It ain't for everybody though. Loads of realistic violence, and straight and gay sex everywhere. It is Rome, after all.
Stinkles said:
I agree they'd rather stick with physical media ... but I believe even they know that may not be realistic long-term (or at least they are potentially losing sales revenue).
The reason its been taking so long to get rolling, beyond the actual infrastructure issues, isn't due to a total lack of studio involvement. A number have been R&Ding it. The issue is that they are making sure the security (DRM
) is in place first.Pristine_Condition
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Sallokin said:
You can just mail the disc back to Sony, and have them replace it with the remastered version for free, too. Google "Fifth element replacement program" for the email address to write to, and they'll tell you where to send the disc.
OokieSpookie
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Sallokin said:
Yeop
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