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[SRG01]

Fox has been doing this since Die Hard 4. Blue Harvest does it too. They just include a DRM protected .mp4 file (that requires registration with FOX to use) on the disc which you can use on your PC or iPod.

I'm still trying to figure out how to play mp4 on my PC without using ffdshow. :lol Otherwise, I'd jump all over it.

 

[dallow_bg]

As long as we are talking about receivers....

I'm not too concerned abotu advanced codec support, but I would like to run all my video through my reciever so that I'm not always fussing with the projector *and* the reciever. Also, fewer cables to the projector is better. Any suggestions? Can I run everything through a reciever into a single HDMI out and then to the projecotr? Any downsides to that?

There are plenty of receivers out there that do the analog to digital (all video to HDMI out) but the quality is not as good as going direct (component in, component out, s-video in to out, etc)

However I've been playing my Wii in this way and I really don't see anything wrong with it! Looks just as good to me as when I did straight component into the TV.

One HDMI cable is extremely convenient.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Well, my imputs would be:

PS3 (HDMI)
Cable Box (HDMI)
Wii (component)
PC (VGA, if it exists-- otherwise, direct to projector)

If it's only the Wii that would suffer, I would not mind at all. It already looks lame compared to my other imputs (yes, HD does matter this gen).

 

[Raistlin]

As long as we are talking about receivers....

I'm not too concerned abotu advanced codec support, but I would like to run all my video through my reciever so that I'm not always fussing with the projector *and* the reciever. Also, fewer cables to the projector is better. Any suggestions? Can I run everything through a reciever into a single HDMI out and then to the projecotr? Any downsides to that?

Only real downside is having to have the receiver on, even if you don't feel like using your surround setup. Obviously you can always turn the volume down or mute it ... but its wasting power.

For that reason, I have a separate pre/pro and amplifier. Though considering all the crazy extra stuff current pre/pro's do ... I'm not sure I'm saving THAT much power

 

[gkryhewy]

There are plenty of receivers out there that do the analog to digital (all video to HDMI out) but the quality is not as good as going direct (component in, component out, s-video in to out, etc)

I went with the Sony DG910 rather than the Onkyo 605 chiefly because it doesn't touch the video signals before passing them through to the TV. Pure, clean 720p component signal --> 720p hdmi out. The Onkyo processes the signals and potentially degrades them slightly.

 

[dallow_bg]

I went with the Sony DG910 rather than the Onkyo 605 chiefly because it doesn't touch the video signals before passing them through to the TV. Pure, clean 720p component signal --> 720p hdmi out. The Onkyo processes the signals and potentially degrades them slightly.

This is true, there still is some analog to digital conversion going on.


I have the 605.
Isn't it supposed to upscale my Wii signal?

Outputting to my TV in HDMI, the TV displays 480p.

So is the signal not really being processed?
I hope this is the case, I didn't want it to upscale the picture for me. Rather let the TV handle that.
Looks fine to me.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I leave my receiver on all the time as it is. I probably shouldn't do that, I guess.

 

[Costanza]

YESSSSS

I found a Walmart with Planet Earth (BR) in stock, so I used 69 bucks of my store credit on that. I've been holding out on this one for forever, so I can't wait to watch.

 

[StoOgE]

Afraid not, the HDMI is video only.

you are probably thinking of the 604. I think the 604 was HDMI 1.2 and did audio via HDMI, but no advanced coded support. I would suspect they are cheap if you can find one for sale.

I dont care about the TV/Reciever/BRD/HDDVD player being able to control each other. My harmony does that allready.

 

[Midas]

YESSSSS

I found a Walmart with Planet Earth (BR) in stock, so I used 69 bucks of my store credit on that. I've been holding out on this one for forever, so I can't wait to watch.

You will not be disappointed.

 

[StoOgE]

You will not be disappointed.

unless he got the discovery one.

 

[Costanza]

unless he got the discovery one.

It's the BBC one.

 

[dallow_bg]

you are probably thinking of the 604. I think the 604 was HDMI 1.2 and did audio via HDMI, but no advanced coded support. I would suspect they are cheap if you can find one for sale.

I dont care about the TV/Reciever/BRD/HDDVD player being able to control each other. My harmony does that allready.

I believe you are right, I think it's the Onkyo SR-604 that I was thinking of.

 

[AstroLad]

I went with the Sony DG910 rather than the Onkyo 605 chiefly because it doesn't touch the video signals before passing them through to the TV. Pure, clean 720p component signal --> 720p hdmi out. The Onkyo processes the signals and potentially degrades them slightly.

This is why I still haven't bothered with a surround sound system this gen. Seems like you've got some pretty big tradeoffs even if you're willing to spend a decent chunk of cash. :/ Plus I've got a computer (HDMI), PS3 (HDMI), 360 (Component), and Wii (Component) to hook up. I'm sure I would fuck it all up, and wind up with an inferior picture or only 5.1/7.1 on two of the four after spending two grand.

 

[Jim]

Apparently, you can piggyback the Amazon BoGo Sony deal with this one: http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/b...llet/Blu-rayBuy2Get1FreeRebateOffer_Final.pdf

and get a 3rd Sony movie for $2.99 (just shipping)

Pretty great deals moving towards the Holiday season all around.

Haha.. this actually just arrived. They sent Big Fish. B1G2 plan complete.

Also, just realized that the original post of this thread always shows the latest amazon charts from eProductWars. Pretty cool.

and

NetFlix Admits High-Def Disc Shortage

duh.

 

[BelligerentOC]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

:lol, that pretty good.

what's that number, 1-888-bestbuy?

 

[dallow_bg]

Jeeze!

 

[Costanza]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

:lol

 

[Gattsu25]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

I read this and...well...I read this and I can only ask: Why?

 

[Frankfurter]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

You know that sth. went wrong if you get kicked out of store because of the format war :lol

 

[djkimothy]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

You did well soldier. At the very least she's appraised with the current situation.

 

[maharg]

Wow. That's all I have to say to that. Wow.

 

[Insane Metal]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

ROFFLES :lol

But you did it well.

That motherfucker must be an XBot.

Spoiler

really. lol

 

[border]

That story is embarassing. And more for the storyteller than the retailer.

 

[methane47]

That motherfucker must be an XBot.

Spoiler

really. lol

I went to Block buster a couple weeks ago and the guy there had an "XBOX360" pin covering his blockbuster pin..

I was actually renting Assassin's Creed and Fifa at the time... and he gave me a couple dirty looks...

If it was gamestop they would have probably not wanted to take my money.

 

[YYZ]

That story is embarassing. And more for the storyteller than the retailer.

Well she's buying an HD-DVD player. Granted she's probably full of the moneys but I would feel bad as well, enough to say something. The manager was mad because he just lost the -1 to the HD-DVD stock that he so dearly wants. If they know what they're getting into then I'd let them be.

If it was within earshot of the cashier I probably wouldn't say anything though, too awkward.

 

[mollipen]

That story is embarassing. And more for the storyteller than the retailer.

How so? I probably would have done the same thing. It is usually easy to tell if somebody knows what they're shopping for, or if they don't, and for example if I see somebody who doesn't seem too well versed on gaming, and they're looking at buying a totally crap game, I'll say something.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah I dunno about at the checkout but if I saw someone in the HD aisle perusing the HD-DVD players I'd probably say something.

There have been times at Best Buy when I've heard a blueshirt telling a customer completely bullshit information and wanted to butt in.

 

[Witchfinder General]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I purchased No More Heroes for in store pick up and after work I went in to pick it up. In line in front of me was a lady with 2 children and she was buying an HDDVD player. I couldnt stand letting her leave without knowing about the format war, so I decided to educate her...

'Ma'am, I dont usually do this, but that is a dead format.'
'What are you talking about? I was just talking to the manager (looks over to him behind the customer service counter) and he said that this was the best option available and it upscales on top of everything.'
'Well at the moment there is very little studio support for HDDVD and within a year, there will likely be none. Blu Ray is the way to go for HD movies and their players upscale as well.'

She then went and yelled at the manager who directed her to one of his underlings. After that he came up to me and asked me to leave the store for 'misinforming the public.'

I told him that I had an online order to pick up, which he grudgingly let me get, then escorted me to the door...

He was in the right; you had no reason to be discussing the sale with the customer as it goes against common retail policy.

 

[The Bookerman]

He was in the right; you had no reason to be discussing the sale with the customer as it goes against common retail policy.

I hope you're kidding

 

[Mifune]

I hope you're kidding

Actually, The Blue Shirt Act of '01 gives employees the right to use lethal force if a sale is blocked by a customer.

BelligerentOC is lucky to have escaped with his life.

 

[Suikoguy]

Actually, The Blue Shirt Act of '01 gives employees the right to use lethal force if a sale is blocked by a customer.

BelligerentOC is lucky to have escaped with his life.

"Blue Shirt Act" :lol

 

[BelligerentOC]

The real coup de grace though was when he sent me to get NMH, they didnt have it in back, even though they sent an email saying they had it on hold. Took a few minutes to get a new game, and the cashier guy gave me $15 off of the game (thankfully the manager didnt catch that) because they made me wait so long...

 

[Witchfinder General]

I hope you're kidding

Regardless whether you agree with the context of the sale or not (even though I believe HD-DVD is all but dead we don't know the exact context of the sale between the manager and the customer - there could be reasons why a HD-DVD player may have suited her) it was not the poster's place to intercede and spoil the sale. Doing such a thing is very, very poor form and every manager in the world is in his or her right to ask the person to leave. If that had happened back when I was running a retail shop I would have thrown him out on his ear.

Now if the manager was doing something unlawful then I would not hesitate to intervene myself, but anything else is not acceptable.

 

[Cheesemeister]

So I got kicked out of Best Buy because of this format war.

I overheard a clerk at Wal-Mart the other day ask a customer if they wanted the widescreen or fullscreen version of a DVD. The customer said fullscreen. I had to bite my tongue, as I witnessed part of the problem.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

It's not a matter of law, butof curteousy. I would have done the same.

Yeah, it's pushy, but it saved the lady a couple hundred bucks and a lot of confusion or disappointment. Manager has the right to eject the customer, but if he really doesn't like it, he shouldn't mislead his other customers.

Stores like BB have the rep they do for a reason.

 

[Ckid]

Regardless whether you agree with the context of the sale or not (even though I believe HD-DVD is all but dead we don't know the exact context of the sale between the manager and the customer - there could be reasons why a HD-DVD player may have suited her) it was not the poster's place to intercede and spoil the sale. Doing such a thing is very, very poor form every manager in the world is in his or her right to ask the person to leave. If that had happened back when I was running a retail shop I would have thrown him out on his ear.

Now if the manager was doing something unlawful then I would not hesitate to intervene myself, but anything else is not acceptable.

:lol

 

[BelligerentOC]

Regardless whether you agree with the context of the sale or not (even though I believe HD-DVD is all but dead we don't know the exact context of the sale between the manager and the customer - there could be reasons why a HD-DVD player may have suited her) it was not the poster's place to intercede and spoil the sale. Doing such a thing is very, very poor form and every manager in the world is in his or her right to ask the person to leave. If that had happened back when I was running a retail shop I would have thrown him out on his ear.

Now if the manager was doing something unlawful then I would not hesitate to intervene myself, but anything else is not acceptable.

Its rather apparent that the manager was giving her false information regarding HDDVD. To me, thats not acceptable.

 

[Frankfurter]

It's not a matter of law, butof curteousy. I would have done the same.

Yeah, it's pushy, but it saved the lady a couple hundred bucks and a lot of confusion or disappointment. Manager has the right to eject the customer, but if he really doesn't like it, he shouldn't mislead his other customers.

Stores like BB have the rep they do for a reason.

Let's say that lady walked into the store and said that she wanted an HD player, but only wanted to spend 200 or 300 Dollars max. How did he then mislead his customers?

 

[captive]

He was in the right; you had no reason to be discussing the sale with the customer as it goes against common retail policy.

You sir, are full of shit.

Let's say that lady walked into the store and said that she wanted an HD player, but only wanted to spend 200 or 300 Dollars max. How did he then mislead his customers?

You dont see any problem with recomending a format that for all intents and purposes is bleeding out and only a matter of time before dead?
You dont think that would be dishonest in anyway?

 

[VanMardigan]

and


duh.

I'm considering just switching a bunch of titles from HD DVD and Blu Ray to dvd. I'm tired of waiting a long ass time for movies that came out in November and before. I still haven't seen Bourne Ultimatum, Rush Hour 3, Ocean's Thirteen, Stardust, Pan's Labyrinth, etc.

It's beyond pathetic and I may just get the dvd versions and let my Ps3 upscale them to 1080p.

Anybody else just go that route with Netflix or BB Online?

 

[Ckid]

Let's say that lady walked into the store and said that she wanted an HD player, but only wanted to spend 200 or 300 Dollars max. How did he then mislead his customers?

the salesperson should still let the lady know she is spending 200 to 300 dollars on dieing format.

 

[Witchfinder General]

Its rather apparent that the manager was giving her false information regarding HDDVD. To me, thats not acceptable.

That's your opinion but you don't know the full details.

Clearly those of you perplexed by my position on the subject have never held a management position in retail or even worked in retail in the first place.

 

[ManaByte]

That's your opinion but you don't know the full details.

Clearly those of you perplexed by my position on the subject have never held a management position in retail or even worked in retail in the first place.

No, I agree with you. He deserved to be kicked out of the store, if only for costing $200-$300 the store. It's too bad stores aren't allowed to fine assholes like that the amount they were costing the store.

 

[captive]

No, I agree with you. He deserved to be kicked out of the store, if only for costing $200-$300 the store. It's too bad stores aren't allowed to fine assholes like that the amount they were costing the store.

Oh please, where do you draw the line then?

I was in the stereo cables isle one time, and a girl wanted a cord to hook up an Ipod to a stereo. What did the clerk give her? A Y adapter RCA to red and white RCA. The right cord to do that would be a stereo 1/8th jack to red and white RCA, as an RCA cord will fall out of the Ipod. Should i have been kicked out for correcting the incompetent clerk? Am I an asshole for correcting him?

Lets say you know a TV has known defects and you see someone looking at said TV about to buy it, should you advise them? Or is that an "asshole" thing to do?

 

[ManaByte]

Oh please, where do you draw the line then?

I was in the stereo cables isle one time, and a girl wanted a cord to hook up an Ipod to a stereo. What did the clerk give her? A Y adapter RCA to red and white RCA. The right cord to do that would be a stereo 1/8th jack to red and white RCA, as an RCA cord will fall out of the Ipod. Should i have been kicked out for correcting the incompetent clerk? Am I an asshole for correcting him?

Lets say you know a TV has known defects and you see someone looking at said TV about to buy it, should you advise them? Or is that an "asshole" thing to do?

So the HD-DVD player she was buying was defective?

 

[captive]

So the HD-DVD player she was buying was defective?

I believe we both know the right answer to that.

 

[msdstc]

So the HD-DVD player she was buying was defective?

no but it'll be obsolete very soon, causing her to want a bluray player in the near future. Why not buy blu now and not have to spend more in the future? AND get more for your money.

 

[ManaByte]

btw got Legend of Zorro and the Ocean's trilogy today.

WHERE THE FUCK IS MASK OF ZORRO SONY! Yea the sequel has the OMGWTFMYSPEAKRSAREDEAD explosion at the end, but give us the original damnit.