BoboBrazil
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SlaughterX said:
The problem is are the few people still buying hd-dvd players just confused consumers that don't know better?
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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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The problem is are the few people still buying hd-dvd players just confused consumers that don't know better?
Ignatz Mouse
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It was nicer here when the fanboys stopped posting and we could just talk about HD in general....
SlaughterX
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BoboBrazil said:
Believe that if you want. I sold 2 to a customer yesterday who was fully aware of the WB annoucement. Is it that hard to believe that people would spend $100 on a nice (HD)DVD player that comes with 7 free movies? I know it's a hard chose for some of you when compared to the $500 alternative...
Also please explain exactly how I'm a fanboy?
SlaughterX said:
Are you Nicodimas second account? You can't be serious with this bullshit. Anyone logical enough knew from the beginning that two disc formats competing each other is not a viable solution and that for HD to become mainstream someone must eventually give up. Consumers worldwidely chose Bluray by a big margin so why don't some of you get it through your thick head that fortunately this format war is now finished and that it's good for the industry?
Geez we're having the same argument in every page.
SlaughterX
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Costanza said:
Lol, and what reason would they have to ban me? Just because I don't agree with what some of the people here say? Lol, communism FTW!
My arguement isn't about who should win the format war, it's about some of the replies I've seen in this thread which are obviously more fanboyish than anything I've ever said on this forum (lol @ anyone calling me an HD-DVD fanboy when I also own a BR player and about 37 BR discs).
Suikoguy
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SlaughterX said:
Wow, Blu-ray players are $500 now
Damn them for increasing the price..
Good thing I bought my Dad a PS3 for Christmas for 399 that plays blu-ray movies, before they increased the price.
I almost bought him that $300 blu-ray player from Amazon.. but I figured he would play some of the games too. I had no idea they raised that one to 500 too!
If $ony keeps this up, blue-ray is gonna lose!
SlaughterX
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The cheapest stand alone player we sell is $500. Many people (mostly older folks) will not buy a gaming system to play movies on because they tend to look down on games for some reason. NVM, just remembered the Sony BDPS300 is $400, but I personally wouldn't buy one since it doesn't support any type of HD audio...
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
SlaughterX said:
Just leave them to their circle jerk. I swear I'll never understand the winning and whining mentality or I should say won and still whining mentality of alot of Blu-ray supporters.
How are things any better for them or HDM in general now that Blu-ray has won? Have SA prices come down? Are Blu-ray players flying out the stores? Where is Batman, Matrix and all the titles that they were waiting for? Have they even been announced? That goes without mentioning Universal and Paramount.
To each his own I suppose...
Ignatz Mouse
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How are you *not* a fanboy?
- Bitterness, check
- adoration of a faceless corporation, check
- distorted view of reality, check
- rationalizations, check
I'm not saying that spending $100 for a player and movies is worng-- heck, think of it as an expensive rental if you must-- but you've got a hate on here for anybody who wants this to be a one-format situation jsut like, you know, DVD, VHS. One format makes sense for video.
And I don't think it's wrong to dissuade people from the format if they don't know what's going on. People buying lame-duck HD-DVD at this point can hard the whole HD adoption.
- Bitterness, check
- adoration of a faceless corporation, check
- distorted view of reality, check
- rationalizations, check
I'm not saying that spending $100 for a player and movies is worng-- heck, think of it as an expensive rental if you must-- but you've got a hate on here for anybody who wants this to be a one-format situation jsut like, you know, DVD, VHS. One format makes sense for video.
And I don't think it's wrong to dissuade people from the format if they don't know what's going on. People buying lame-duck HD-DVD at this point can hard the whole HD adoption.
plagiarize
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indeed. didn't last long thoughIgnatz Mouse said:
Ignatz Mouse
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dallow_bg said:
Shhh, you'll disturb his self-rigtheous smugness. It's all he has left.
plagiarize
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not forgetting that this makes it a lot easier for smaller companies to start putting out films in high def. as a big horror fan, it's companies like Tartan that mean a lot to me, and while bigger companies can afford to either support both, or take the financial risk of supporting just one, now that's all gone. we'll see more independant/smaller/foreign stuff on Blu-Ray as a result of this.dallow_bg said:
all the fence sitters gone.
it isn't going to make Fox put out Alien, as much as i might want that, but it might get The Weinstein Company to put out FUCKING SOMETHING.
SlaughterX
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Lol, looks like you just summed up most of the BR supporters here in a single post. What am I bitter about? I am just annoyed at all the people here acting like a good deal on a HD-DVD player is the worst thing in the world. If they're not worried about it then why make such negative replies, just ignore it and there is no harm done to you or you precious BR players and movies.
What makes you think I adore Toshiba? Other than the fact that I've owned a well built DVD player that has lasted me for well over 5 years, they are no different than any other electronics company out there. Distored view of reality... huh? Last time I checked people were buying HD-DVD players, does that someone mean that I think it's going to turn the game around for Toshiba and somehow win them the war? No, but I don't call people stupid and act all butt hurt when someone mentions it.
Rationalizations? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was supposed to be irrationalizational. I didn't chose a side in this format war, I chose both thanks to the fact that I got a good deal on a Japanese PS3 a year ago, and many good deals on various HD-DVD players that pretty much paid for themselves in movies that I wanted and would have bought anyway. The true indication of fanboyism is trying to tell other people the choices that they made were/are wrong, and acting like a very similar format is vastly superior to the other. For people who say they don't care you all sure do cry a lot about nothing.
What makes you think I adore Toshiba? Other than the fact that I've owned a well built DVD player that has lasted me for well over 5 years, they are no different than any other electronics company out there. Distored view of reality... huh? Last time I checked people were buying HD-DVD players, does that someone mean that I think it's going to turn the game around for Toshiba and somehow win them the war? No, but I don't call people stupid and act all butt hurt when someone mentions it.
Rationalizations? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was supposed to be irrationalizational. I didn't chose a side in this format war, I chose both thanks to the fact that I got a good deal on a Japanese PS3 a year ago, and many good deals on various HD-DVD players that pretty much paid for themselves in movies that I wanted and would have bought anyway. The true indication of fanboyism is trying to tell other people the choices that they made were/are wrong, and acting like a very similar format is vastly superior to the other. For people who say they don't care you all sure do cry a lot about nothing.
SRG01 said:Oh, and before I forget: I'm lending my PS3 to my friend tomorrow since she really wants to watch Blu-Ray stuff. Are there any female-audience oriented titles in particular (good transfers of course) that I should pick up to impress her?
:lol I had this happen to me this week. That and I need to finish some work so I agreed.
I'd recommend Disney titles.
OokieSpookie
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Costanza said:
As much as I hate to be the advocate, until Hoshiba packs it in everyone has the right to their fanaticism...
Ignatz Mouse
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SlaughterX said:
Nope, not a fanboy.
SlaughterX
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Lol, you still have yet to explain exactly how that is a fanboyish statement? Am I a Sega hater now?
plagiarize
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i'd reccommend Pan's Labyrinth. if she doesn't like it, she isn't worth trying to impress.SRG01 said:Oh, and before I forget: I'm lending my PS3 to my friend tomorrow since she really wants to watch Blu-Ray stuff. Are there any female-audience oriented titles in particular (good transfers of course) that I should pick up to impress her?
Ignatz Mouse
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You clearly feel Toshiba is an admirable company. You have praised them quite a bit.
I call anybody who praises a company-- especially one engaged in as much muddying of the waters right now-- a fanboy.
Just look at the old saw about attach rates they just put out today. I'm not saying any other company wouldn't be doing the same, but for some reason you glorify them.
If you weren't a fanbot, you wouldn't be advocating a format with a marginal future (if any) without being upfront about the caveats and tradeoffs of doing so. Hence, fanboy.
And the bitterness-- I don't think anybody who uses the term "circle jerk" is not is some way feelign hurt.
I call anybody who praises a company-- especially one engaged in as much muddying of the waters right now-- a fanboy.
Just look at the old saw about attach rates they just put out today. I'm not saying any other company wouldn't be doing the same, but for some reason you glorify them.
If you weren't a fanbot, you wouldn't be advocating a format with a marginal future (if any) without being upfront about the caveats and tradeoffs of doing so. Hence, fanboy.
And the bitterness-- I don't think anybody who uses the term "circle jerk" is not is some way feelign hurt.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
dallow_bg said:
Batman and Matrix have been officially anounced? Oh and by the by if you can tell me where I can get decent player (not clearanced profile 1.0) for under $400 and I'll bite. I'm not gonna cut off my nose to spite my face. lulz
Ignatz Mouse
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PS3.
SlaughterX
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Lol, so I am a fanboy for respecting Toshiba for not throwing in the towel once WB made their exclusive annoucement like you and many other BR advocates would have liked them to? I think most HD-DVD owners would eb a lot more pissed if Toshiba had just said fuck it and stopped making the things, that would be bad business and ruin their future reputation. I've already acknowledged the cons of buying into HD-DVD, but those are far outweighed by the fact that you can find a player for the price of a decent upconverting DVD player that also plays actual HD movies and comes with a decent amount of free movies on top of that, not to mention that fact that when it finally does happen you'll still be able to pick up a bunch of HD movies (that by the way look just as good as their Blu counterparts) for cheap.
You know what, I think I'm done replying to anything you have to say, I have better ways of wasting my time than talking to someone who tries to label me a fanboy for not thinking in the same fucked up way as them.
You know what, I think I'm done replying to anything you have to say, I have better ways of wasting my time than talking to someone who tries to label me a fanboy for not thinking in the same fucked up way as them.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Ignatz Mouse said:
I know I'm getting one just as soon as I get around to it. I was just adressing dallow's point that prices have come down when they clearly have not.
SRG01 said:
Man up soldier. :lol
Also, skimming through the list, there's also Pearl Harbour, Phantom of the Opera, Big Fish, Dream Girls, Failure to Launch.... Kind of a stereotypical selection but whatever.
People always forget...
Golden compass specs revealed.
A reversal of sorts?
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
avaya said:
No, they didn't. You recall incorrectly.
SlaughterX said:
So let me get this straight. It's better for Toshiba to
-String along the tiny number of HD-DVD adopters and even sucker in new consumers into a format that will be like the dodo come this Christmas.
-Irritate the rest of the CE industry by continuing with futile resistance
-Irritate the vast majority of Hollywood by continuing with futile resistance
-Irritate retail by continuing with futile resistance
All of this plus the lame upconversion attempts constitute a roadblock to the launch of a new robust revenue stream for CE, Hollywood and retail.
Toshiba is the kid in the playground who doesn't want to play with everyone else.
Toshiba's name and reputation is being savaged in the media. The more they continue their resistance the less likely their corporate partner's would be willing to work with them on future technologies in this field.
You really think they should continue with this just to earn the respect of the remaining HD-DVD holdouts, who let's be honest, are the Sony-hatin or totally delusional crew?
You really think that?
Hmmm.
VanMardigan said:
Read down, I owned myself :lol
OokieSpookie
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djkimothy said:
It would be if New Line was actually releasing hd-dvd
Logan Cano
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SlaughterX said:
They are going to throw the towel eventually, they'll just end up pissing off even more people when that happens.
FWIW, Stranger than Fiction was recommended to me by several women, so you may just have to suck it up since it seems like a good choice.SRG01 said:
There's always the POTC movies as general crowd-pleasers - action for the guys, Depp and Bloom for the ladies.
I doubt you could go wrong with Planet Earth...
Sony Deutschland Offers 150Euro For HD-DVD Player Trade-In
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=33955
Maxpower1987 confirms that this could expand to the UK and Ireland.
That's pretty insane.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=33955
Maxpower1987 confirms that this could expand to the UK and Ireland.
That's pretty insane.
Gary Whitta
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Haha that's a smart play. That's like the final bullet in the head after the guy is down and bleeding and crawling desperately for his gun.avaya said:
jeremy_ricci
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SlaughterX said:
:lol :lol :lol
That is too freakin good.
xS1TH L0RDx
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any news of batman begins & matrix trilogy on blu ray?
polyh3dron
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On Amazon the Panasonic DMP-BD50 (The only standalone people should be buying) which supports BD-J 1.1 and HD audio bitstreaming as well as internal TrueHD decoding is $417.SlaughterX said:
OokieSpookie
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Costanza said:
It may, it wouldn't be more than like $50 but it could still help
KZObsessed
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As generous as that is from Sony, I doubt you'll ever see it in the US, the number of HD-DVD players that have been sold it would be far too expensive.
Germany and other places round Europe wouldn't be that expensive, HD-DVD never really took off out side of the US.
Germany and other places round Europe wouldn't be that expensive, HD-DVD never really took off out side of the US.
You want me to tell you which Profile 1.1 standalones have dropped in price when there's only 1 out there at the moment???Days like these... said:
Like someone mentioned.
The Panny BD50 1.1 player is $417.
Sell one of your HD DVDs and presto, you have enough now.
VictimOfGrief
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plagiarize said:
Did they... did they really? Or did Warner choose for them?
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