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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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SlaughterX
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mackaveli said:
Now that I think about it you're right about some BRs being region free. Most of my Sony/Columbia movies that are ABC region, but a few are only region A.
Zoe said:
quoted since people might not see it on the previous page.
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http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/30/sonics-scenarist-now-blu-ray-digital-distribution-format-only/
Sonic Solutions goes blu-ray and digital distribution only now.
No idea what this really means exactly in the whole format war.
another link
http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=13449
EMI Music Japan (Formerly Toshiba EMI) Goes BD Exclusive
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=34598
Sony Music Japan, Avex Trax and EMI are the biggest record companies in Japan.
Well from the sounds of it all major music groups are behind Blu-ray (incl. Warner-Music and EMI now)
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=34598
Sony Music Japan, Avex Trax and EMI are the biggest record companies in Japan.
Well from the sounds of it all major music groups are behind Blu-ray (incl. Warner-Music and EMI now)
Argyle said:Classy, Toshiba...
I just got my rebate form for my 5 free movies back, return to sender, PO Box closed
There are two rebate forms floating around out there, I guess I used the wrong one? (both say "must be postmarked by 3/31/08" on them)...
...anyway, if there are still people out there sending these in, don't bother with the form that goes to box 430931
Ugh, I'm dreading that my five free movies won't arrive. When did you send yours in btw?
mackaveli said:
Basically, it means HD DVD is close to dead as a viable PC reordable format too, assuming the Roxio SW dries up as well. In reality, it never had much of a chance due to capacity problems (besides literally being smaller, Tosh had major problems getting out dual-layered recordable media) ... but now that authoring software is drying up ... its definitely game over.
Battlezone
Member
Argyle said:Classy, Toshiba...
I just got my rebate form for my 5 free movies back, return to sender, PO Box closed
There are two rebate forms floating around out there, I guess I used the wrong one? (both say "must be postmarked by 3/31/08" on them)...
...anyway, if there are still people out there sending these in, don't bother with the form that goes to box 430931
I got that a couple of weeks ago. I called, and they gave me a different PO Box to send it to. Don't know if that will actually DO anything, but what the hell...
Battlezone
Member
Yeah, it was:
PO Box 420503
El Paso, TX 88543-0503
PO Box 420503
El Paso, TX 88543-0503
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
That "upscaling DVD player with a bunch of free movies" is looking like less of a bargain every minute.
Battlezone said:
OK, cool, that's the address on the other form, then.
I switched forms and so it looks like I will get slightly different movies, no big deal. Did you send the same form in? I guess if I put the other one in the envelope they would just send me whatever they wanted if they didn't have the movie I picked
OokieSpookie
Banned
Ah the Super bowl ad...
How it has inspired the hd loyal to new extremes in their imagination.
How it has inspired the hd loyal to new extremes in their imagination.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
OokieSpookie said:
And if it pushes hardware, you won't hear the end of it from HD DVD fans.
How many people watch the Super Bowl? Imagine if a tiny percentage of that saw the add and decided to buy the product (let's assume they don't bother to read this thread). Even if it's less than 1 percent, even 50k, that would push the HD DVD hardware WAY past our young HD market. Didn't Blu Ray "dominate" the other week with 18k or so? Then they dropped last week, so let's assume they sell 18k again. Versus 50k. That's like a 75% standalone hardware advantage by Toshiba for the week, one that would amount to a whole month or so of BD standalone sales.
It's such a tiny market that something like this can show up on NPD, but it's also such a small market right now that you have to wonder why Toshiba would bother. No way they sell enough, not nearly enough, to make that investment worthwhile. I guess it's an attempt to stem the large amount of negative publicity for the format after the WB announcement.
I don't think they were stored away. Stores just had to sell whatever they had. The only difference is there would be no re-stock. The only titles that were recalled were the ones shipping the week of the announcement (like Blades of Glory)
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
avaya said:
I remember stores, including Amazon, selling Para BD movies until they ran out of their stock. I don't recall there being a restriction for Paramount outside of the stuff that was coming out that week.
OokieSpookie
Banned
VanMardigan said:
It doesn't matter how many superbowl watchers see their commercial and say "gosh golly ah am gonna go down and buy me one of them there he deeeee veee deeee players now" because as soon as they find out that 90% of the movies that they want will not be available to them they will return them and be pissed off.
The main reason that the ad is even going to be there is that they bought the space a while back and there is a rather large penalty fee for dropping out.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
OokieSpookie said:
If they talk like that, they'll be picking up the dvd version anyway and upscaling. 100% of all movies in HD!!! :lol
Christopher
Member
OokieSpookie said:
:lol
who cares? Alas we've seen the hardware doesn't sell the movies.
OokieSpookie
Banned
VanMardigan said:
Argh, don't remind me :lol
I had the upscale conversation with a friend of mine's wife the other day and it was like talking to a wall.
(The only reason that they have a nice hdtv is that they won it)
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Christopher said:
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VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
dallow_bg said:
So, what are we attributing over one third of HD disc sales last year to? The drops came right around the time of the Ps3 price drop. Ps3 moved a ton of units in November and December, not to mention that BD standalones started selling well also, and the ratios pretty much stayed still for YTD, with spikes here and there.
There were tons of more BD playback devices out there, so the hardware did its job. It's absurd to suggest that moving hardware is insignificant when that's exactly how Sony put BD on top. By trojan horsing the format onto a platform that sold hundreds of thousands every month, they gained the hardware advantage, and thus software advantage. If the $99 players had no impact, the ratios wouldn't have remained the same, they would've dramatically increased in Blu's favor after the 40GB started to take off. And despite that, the YTD ratios pretty much stayed put despite the weekly spikes when a big release came out. That's entirely due to standalone hardware sales producing software sales. A 50k spike, ESPECIALLY now that so many HD DVD folks stopped buying movies, would easily be felt in the NPD charts.
It's a short term deal, though. No lasting impact. I'm not arguing that, but to suggest that moving hardware doesn't matter is laughable.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
How about-- moving a lot of hardware in a short term-- that does nothing to move software.
You can argue the boundaries of the discussion or the semantics, but the point is clear-- a big push in early December didn;t do anything for software sales, and the presumtion is that it won't in the future, either.
You can argue the boundaries of the discussion or the semantics, but the point is clear-- a big push in early December didn;t do anything for software sales, and the presumtion is that it won't in the future, either.
dallow_bg said:I've never had a problem with them.
Most of my free 2 day shipped stuff (amazon prime) actually gets here in 1 day.
Hopefully you have a tracking number.
It's being walked to Canada.
I'll check the tracking number. But yah, I have a feeling it's being flown by a carrier pigeon.
You know what's funny?
If the "superbowl ad" only ends up causing a spike in Blu-Ray player sales, ironically.
Joe Six Pack watches the superbowl, sees an HD-DVD ad, then goes to Best Buy where he is told that HD-DVD is dead and that it has no support, ends up leaving the store with a Blu-Ray player in hand.
There's no retail or consumer mindshare in favor of HD-DVD at this point. The superbowl ad is a waste of money and more than likely will only end up being counterproductive.
If the "superbowl ad" only ends up causing a spike in Blu-Ray player sales, ironically.
Joe Six Pack watches the superbowl, sees an HD-DVD ad, then goes to Best Buy where he is told that HD-DVD is dead and that it has no support, ends up leaving the store with a Blu-Ray player in hand.
There's no retail or consumer mindshare in favor of HD-DVD at this point. The superbowl ad is a waste of money and more than likely will only end up being counterproductive.
OokieSpookie
Banned
"Hi, this is Ken G the representative for the Hd-dvd commission.
we out, peace"
*knocks over magazine rack next to him and walks off screen*
we out, peace"
*knocks over magazine rack next to him and walks off screen*
Christopher
Member
Amazon prime suckas - I had mine for almost a year now and it's totally worth it to have your shit in 2 days.
So what's the next "big" release seems kind of dry in the blu ray releases - although it truly has let me catch up in watching some backlog.
So what's the next "big" release seems kind of dry in the blu ray releases - although it truly has let me catch up in watching some backlog.
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