Bingo Bango Blango.
There sure are a lot of people trying to ignore the criticisms piling up on this game.
Edit: There sure are a lot of people who're playing this game early. I wonder how?
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Hitman: Absolution |OT| Police do not suspect Blood Money is involved.
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There sure are a lot of people trying to ignore the criticisms piling up on this game.
Edit: There sure are a lot of people who're playing this game early. I wonder how?
You want to tell me that noone figured out that the rating system is broken and only rates the last chunk? Come on. Even Bethesda would have noticed this.
But you need to get SA at least once for a trophy. So dumbing this down even more does make sense in that regard. And you could shoot yourself through Blood Money as well (on the lowest difficulty setting).
How does it even work, when you get to a new chunk. Will it autosave there? Or will it restart on the first chunk, if you restart (in case of the higher difficulties)?
Getting back your suit was required to get SA in Blood Money on highest difficulty.
So you can chance back whenever you want?Sorry, but this is embarrassing to watch (SPOILERS):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh3a4stNaf4
Hitman fans please be honest about this.
I don't see what's so bad about that besides the desperate attempt at trolling by the uploader. This isn't so different than killing the opera singer onstage yourself in Curtains Down, really.
Red Blaster
Member
Just as much as there are people who overlook praise by those who have played the game in this thread. People can say whatever they want but much of the most vocal critics in this thread lionize Blood Money to a ridiculous degree whereas I found it a flawed game that did some things better and some things worse than its predecessor.
Yes. Though the option to snap necks is done by subduing an enemy, whereas in Blood Money it was a quick animation if using fibre wire didn't trigger a working animation in context.
Those are all pre-order weapons...who cares? Every fucking game does this now, so I just ignore it.
Messofanego
Banned
All reviewers play on Normal, something worth noting.
Dyni Crippler
Member
That wasn't a sequence of QTEs where 47 made dumb stuff, to put it simple.
There are some Devs that know what is up in terms of making a series more assesible while keeping it's identity. Firaxis is a good example, unfortunately IO is not Firaxis.
Except that any critic worth a damn is confirming the narrative that Absolution is a bland mush of a title. I don't care what some kid who got his copy off of a torrent site has to say.
No QTEs. None of the methods were basically cutscenes. And 47 also didn't take off his disguise in any of them, especially not when
being the actor and shooting with a real gun
Indie games will get better and better in production at the expense of fancy graphics, story, voice acting, less polished gameplay, etc. Eventually, we will be the hipsters of video games.
angular graphics
Banned
How many DVDs is it?
Also an assassin disguising himself as an actor to fire a real gun is cool as fuck and is something that could very well have been a plot point in some tense thriller. Maybe 90s Clint Eastwood would've been there, forcing his way through the theater guards saying "No! That's not the real actor!" while the assassin lifts his gun as the crescendo rises.
QTE Luchador boss fights are just dumb.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Have we forgotten that the other games allowed for smgs and assault rifles to be used?
We're right back around again I see. Can't wait to play. It's almost like people don't want the game to succeed at all because "how dare IO Interactive change anything!"
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Has anyone seen anything about the HD collection? It's not apparently out until December/2013. Nothing official from Square even though we've seen a few leaks but still no videos or screens.
I don't see the point of releading a HD version of Blood Money since it looked perfectly fine on X360. I would of rather had CN47 redone. Makes me wonder if they are getting a good upgrade or maybe SA/Contracts will use a better looking engine such as Blood Money had.
I don't see the point of releading a HD version of Blood Money since it looked perfectly fine on X360. I would of rather had CN47 redone. Makes me wonder if they are getting a good upgrade or maybe SA/Contracts will use a better looking engine such as Blood Money had.
Hopefully they make Silent Assassin performance based and not score based, but that might be a long shot.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Is this thing available for preload on Steam yet?
I prepurchased on GMG, but no key yet
Nope, don't think that IO has said anything about a preload either. Get ready for day 1 20GB downloads baby.
Red Blaster
Member
Right, except for the fact that 47 was acting appropriately in the situation, just like in the play. He was in a fight, so he fought. And you want to talk about revealing himself? Throughout the play rehearsal, anyone could see 47's face through the disguise and see the fact that he is not the man who was there in the last rehearsal minutes ago. Including his target. QTE's aside, this is exactly the same premise and no more absurd.
And I'd rather have a few QTE's instead of Blood Money's laughable melee system.
Dyni Crippler
Member
47 wasn't wanted as he is now in BM.
I'd rather have an actual melee system, instead. QTEs are just cheap and pace-breaking.
Ugh. It's going to take forever download with everyone trying to get it at once.
Edge review directly mirrors the criticisms from that RPS hands-on.
It will only get worse as budgets climb and even fewer risks are taken. You largely have to look at the indie scene and by extension Kickstarter to see anything truly interesting done. Big-budget gaming continues to stagnate by the day.
It will only get worse as budgets climb and even fewer risks are taken. You largely have to look at the indie scene and by extension Kickstarter to see anything truly interesting done. Big-budget gaming continues to stagnate by the day.
But surely you can agree that it's more risky for your target and other people standing much closer to see your real face and would surely notice you're not the same guy as opposed to a crowd of people relatively further away to see your face when you've assumed the identity of a man who is typically masked. Few would be the wiser.
But Blood Money gets a pass because it does no wrong, in spite of it's absurdities.
Clay Davis
Member
okay, so I played three chapters so far and I don't know what to think really.
it's not dumbed down compared to past games, it's more streamlined and simplified if that makes sense. even the chinatown level wasn't as good as the missions in blood money for example. it had the freedom from the game, but they way it pulled it off wasn't as well or as varied.
the ai isn't very good either, the new blend in mechanic is good as is the cover system, but there's definitely something missing. maybe it's because I'm still very early in the game, but it doesn't feel like I'm playing a hitman game. it sounds crazy, but that's how I feel.
the visuals and presentation are fantastic, music is good but not as good as blood money, but still good. the visuals especially deserve some praise, I don't know how developers have managed it, but the visuals in this along with a few others are incredible.
overall, I'm enjoying it but it doesn't feel like hitman. sorry if that doesn't make sense.
it's not dumbed down compared to past games, it's more streamlined and simplified if that makes sense. even the chinatown level wasn't as good as the missions in blood money for example. it had the freedom from the game, but they way it pulled it off wasn't as well or as varied.
the ai isn't very good either, the new blend in mechanic is good as is the cover system, but there's definitely something missing. maybe it's because I'm still very early in the game, but it doesn't feel like I'm playing a hitman game. it sounds crazy, but that's how I feel.
the visuals and presentation are fantastic, music is good but not as good as blood money, but still good. the visuals especially deserve some praise, I don't know how developers have managed it, but the visuals in this along with a few others are incredible.
overall, I'm enjoying it but it doesn't feel like hitman. sorry if that doesn't make sense.
Dyni Crippler
Member
The point of BM's method it's that it looks like an accident, a mistake by whoever prepared the gun.
If you want to take that way, we could say Hitman is unrealistic in any case. Even in Absolution the new disguise system makes little to no sense. That's not the point of the game. In this case, however, 47 is no longer an urban legend but a wanted man. Disguises work, sure, but if you reveal your identity (in a cutscene too!) you're asking to be shot. Sure they should've recognized he wasn't the actor in BM, but that's gameplay logic. In here it's story logic - what he does is beyond your control. It's not the fight itself the problem - I mean, it's a sucky sequence of QTEs, but whatever -, it's the fact that the most wanted man in town just revealed himself in front of a full crowd. Someone might've recognized him, don't you think?
Castor Krieg
Banned
What difficulty level are you playing on?
How so? The disguise system makes the most sense out of all the games in the franchise.
Dyni Crippler
Member
Nah, it makes sense. Problem is - from what you're describing, you're confirming my fears: I wouldn't be able to enjoy it in any case. Oh well.
I was under the impression 47 being wanted wasn't known by everybody, and he was still something of an urban legend. But I've tried to keep myself away from story spoilers, so perhaps I can't make an accurate argument for this without context. If he is as wanted and as well known as you say by everyone in attendance of the fight, then yeah that's a bit foolish. But I'll find out for myself when I play the game.
By the way, was anyone else distracted by the fact that the guy 47 fights is some sort of hybrid between The Great Khali and Danny Trejo?
AHA-Lambda
Member
Actually this quite similar to how I am feeling. I am playing on normal (and before anyone moans at me I played all the others on normal too) and I am currently half way through the run for your life mission and I am mixed on it.
The initial impression I have so far shows to me this could be the conviction of the Hitman series, BUT its not as far removed from Hitman as conviction was from splinter cell. This is till a stealth game but unfortunately a seemingly different kind of stealth game. The only classic Hitman level I have seen so far has been the king of Chinatown level, the rest have been focusing on getting to a location as undetected as possible. I feel like I am playing the older splinter cell games more than Hitman at the moment as I am trying to hide from enemies rather than blend in with them.
I think this can be a good stealth action game but as a Hitman game, that I don't know yet.
DISCLAIMER: 360 version, not played contracts yet, playing on normal mode and I have played all prior Hitman games and I LOVED BM.
Dyni Crippler
Member
Oh, really? No, believe me, it's not like I spoiled the story myself, but I assumed that by now many knew about him. If it's as you say, then there's "only" the problem of the execution itself.
Castor Krieg
Banned
That is the case. Anyway, why would a random schmuck watching a wrestling fight know anything about a famous assassin? People's complaints are getting more and more ridiculous.
Did you know about that Russian gun runner who was arrested in Thailand a few years ago? Because he was apparently very famous, yet it was the first time ever I heard about him.
Dyni Crippler
Member
If it was the case, the most wanted man in town would surely get recognized by someone. But it isn't, so I'll just go mea culpa.
It could very well fall somewhere between the two. But something tells me he's not plastered all over the 8 o'clock news and as soon as he pops up somewhere everyone goes "Oh my God it's Agent 47!" Sure, the people after him know who he is certainly. And if there are people after him in that arena, which is likely, then it's a bit absurd. But as I said, it's a piece of the game entirely out of context. What would you have thought if the final level of Blood Money leaked early and you didn't know it was the epilogue? This isn't exactly the same scenario here, certainly, but I do think context is a crucial factor.
And yeah, one's mileage may vary when it comes to the execution of it.
Isn't that pretty self explanatory
Dyni Crippler
Member
Yes, of course it's a deal of context. I'm just left thinking that, if there's a whole scene like that which requires fighting, you might as well go through the pain of developing an actual brawl system since it's not the only scene.
There are many situations that could (depending on your approach) require QTEs, from disarming to story sequences.
Why should it? Does it mean every hit is a QTE? Does it mean every kill of a NPC is QTE? Does it mean every step is a QTE?
Okay, so the reaction is pretty much over-reaction, then, thanks.
Some are painting rather broadly with the QTE brush, but basically you hold down a button to take guards out, and press another to kill or simply subdue them. Hand to hand combat is also a QTE, and there have been some moments of it in the story.
For me, the line between QTE and simply a context sensitive action is rather fuzzy.
Visualante2
Member
The comparisons to Metal Gear is present in the Edge review "it's less about hiding in plain sight, and more keeping out of it"
Dyni Crippler
Member
To put it simply, they break the pace. Sure, I like the idea of making melee harder, but not if the pace has to be sacrified.
That's a fair argument. I'm not going to stand on some big pro-QTE soapbox. I'm not a big fan either, and part of me hates RE4 for making them so prominent. But most of these don't seem like a big deal. The fight scene reminded me of the bar fights in The Witcher 2.
AHA-Lambda
Member
That's my experience so far of playing it anyway yea, except for the Chinatown level.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
For people playing it, how's the soundtrack? Past games had great soundtracks. For this one they have a new guy, I'm wondering how he does.
The way I see it, the best parts of the game will be a Hitman game for the year 2012. The worst parts will be a serviceable stealth game. I can gladly deal with that, though I can understand why others can't.
Hell, I played Manhunt 2. So I'm apparently willing to put up with a lot in my stealth games.
Hell, I played Manhunt 2. So I'm apparently willing to put up with a lot in my stealth games.
You see if he didn't take the mask off in Absolution, it would have been fine logic-wise. Gameplay-wise it would have still sucked. Some people in here seem to love QTEs+cutscenes. I personally would watch a movie instead.
Think about the mask for a moment:
The opponent is killed. 47 took the mask off for story exposition. There were maybe 1000 people around him in close proximity. They could see him without problems. They could hear what he was saying. At least a few of them would at least notice that it's not the face of the actual wrester. Now let's pretend the wrester's face was previously completely unknown. Let's assume that the actual wrestler would still get framed. But then the police got so many witnesses and they would all say, that the faces don't match. They should be able to describe the face without any issues. Which would then result in notoriety going up and we would get a newspaper article, which features 47s face. Oh wait, this game doesn't have notoriety nor the newspaper feature, so who cares.
In comparison curtains down - when
pretending to be the actor
My condolences.
DeathGlobe
Member
Has anyone ever watched a guy name shap47on youtube his videos of blood money are pretty awesome to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dDMXXyDrM&feature=channel&list=UL
Holy shit