Futurevoid
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Last two episodes have been great. Write the entire Brody family off of the show and you've got a pretty entertaining CIA thriller, Showtime.
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Homeland: Season 3 - |Pledge Allegiance|
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Cornballer
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All of this should have happened before at least episode 3. The season is finally getting good.
Cornballer
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Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I really don't get the hate for this season at all. They have really managed to pull this show back from the brink IMO.
AngmarsKing701
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Great ep. Love the spycraft stuff and locking dickbag senator in the conference room was hilarious. Quinn needs to snap out of it though and get his Jack Bauer mojo back.
I like you.
RatskyWatsky
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Basically, yeah. If they want to salvage the show, they'll need to kill/write off Brody and his entire family and just make the show about (sane and highly competent) Carrie, Saul, Dar Adal, Fara and Quinn tracking down terrorists.
firehawk12
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I'm still waiting for Dana or Brodie to show up again. lol
You Know Nothing
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Yeah, seems like they're trying to lure us all into a false sense of security.
Really liked this episode. It was everything I want out of this show.
Really liked this episode. It was everything I want out of this show.
Really great episode, probably the best of the season. Loved the scene where Saul locked Senator Lockhart in the conference room. Clark Johnson's character was great too.
Only thing I didn't like was Carrie throwing up in the toilet (seemingly morning sickness from her pregnancy). I have a horrible feeling this season will end with Brody being exonerated and Carrie finding out her baby is his.
Only thing I didn't like was Carrie throwing up in the toilet (seemingly morning sickness from her pregnancy). I have a horrible feeling this season will end with Brody being exonerated and Carrie finding out her baby is his.
Steelyuhas
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Nice episode, I'd watch this spy thriller all day.
Carrie throwing up though, are they implying that she's actually pregnant and not just getting false positives from your medication?
Carrie throwing up though, are they implying that she's actually pregnant and not just getting false positives from your medication?
Futurevoid
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Agreed.
The primary concept for Homeland was an American terrorist on US soil. That entire conceit should have died at the end of the first season and we should progressed into what these past two episodes have given us. S2 should have been dealing with the consequences of what (dead) Brody did and yes to some extent how his family was affected by his betrayal on a very limited fashion. His actions should have been the Langley bombing for S2 and the writers could have gotten far more life out of Nazir as a villain! They could still be hunting for him now.
Instead we had to put up with the whole Carrie/Brody relationship, Dana's nonsense and the rest of the Brody family just sticking around well....cause.
I don't look forward to Brody even showing back up at this point because its more focus taken off of the CIA and unraveling the mystery of the Langley bombing which frankly could have existed without the added motivation of Carrie continuing to act fucking stupid to clear Brody's name.
You Know Nothing
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I really hope this doesn't happen. But yeah, her puking seems to be hinting she might be pregnant. I really want Brody to end up dead at the end of this season. And I want the rest of his family gone before next season. Writers pls.
dead souls
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Agreed. Tonight was fucking great. Some of the major online reviewers (like the beyond terrible TVDW at the AVClub) held their punches during the awful back half of season two and now they've tilted too far the other way to overcompensate.
Soyongdori
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You mean Dr, Yinsen who helped Tony Stark build his Iron man prototype suit?
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RatskyWatsky
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I've noticed this too actually. I'm not in love with this season or anything, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as some of the (mostly pro season 2) critics are making it out to be.
oh lord
Angry Fork
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Wish we'd see what Brody is up to, but I liked this episode a lot. Quinn's character has been the best by far.
robertsan21
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Everything with the brody family sucks, I dont want it! kill em off please. This show is truly great without them.
rockman zx
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Amazing episode, why can't the show be like this always?.
I don't hate Brody but I fear they are saving him for the big plot twist and it makes me nervous.
I don't hate Brody but I fear they are saving him for the big plot twist and it makes me nervous.
I'm getting sick of the AV Club reviews. I know they employ different writers, yet there's this trend to frequently draw lofty comparisons to The Sopranos, and how Homeland can't measure up. I love The Sopranos, and I get how you can draw parallels or comparisons with regards to character development, but it's getting out of hand.
There's also lines like this
The level of criticism becomes too much to bear. The hyper analytical deconstruction of every character and moment on the screen has just become overbearing. No one seem's to be able to just enjoy the show for what is, measure it episode by episode, without showing off their deep and nuanced understanding of the flaws of scripted television.
Anyway, I found this to be one of the best episodes of the season. Sending Javadi back to Iran is a fascinating turn of events. I'm dying to know where they're going to take that. However, I'm not buying Dar Adal's quick turn (could he potentially be that mole we were once teased about?) after Saul's apology.
Quinn continues to deliver. The scene with the cops is fantastic, and a good bit of acting imo, on his part. Carrie pregnancy is obvs Brody, and I have no idea where they want to take that. The less we see of Brody makes me wonder more and more how he'll ever be back in the picture. Looking forward to next week.
That's a really weird timeline if that's the case. Hasn't it been 4 months since Brody fled the country?
I don't know what the hell they're doing with this pregnancy thing.
Cornballer
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- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
It was the best until the 5th episode aired.
But yeah, he'll probably make an appearance soon enough and I bet it'll be a good episode.
AngmarsKing701
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It's like they want to make up for last year when they defended the show to death :/
the episode was nice.
BoboBrazil
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Really missing Brody. I still feel like the writers didn't want to keep him alive, but were forced to so they pushed him as far away from the story as possible. I feel bad for Damien Lewis as you are one of the main stars of a show and you are barely in an entire season. He was the reason I started watching this show as he was great in Life.
Interesting ep, Saul going all out. No Brody family in sight. I liked the police subplot, glad the show didn't try to make Quinn into some kind of fugitive.
As for who else was linked to the bombings..
I don't know if Brody knew. I don't know. But I do know that Brody will return. And there will be passionate Carrie-Brody love.
Wild card scenario:
The guy who gave the terrorists the key to the bomb car was Quinn, who was doing it under the orders of Adal. Who did this in an elaborate plan to gain power within the CIA. Also Carrie has Brody's baby. Dana changes her mind and returns home.
As for who else was linked to the bombings..
I don't know if Brody knew. I don't know. But I do know that Brody will return. And there will be passionate Carrie-Brody love.
Wild card scenario:
The guy who gave the terrorists the key to the bomb car was Quinn, who was doing it under the orders of Adal. Who did this in an elaborate plan to gain power within the CIA. Also Carrie has Brody's baby. Dana changes her mind and returns home.
BoboBrazil
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It's obviously not Brody's baby. It's the dude she was fucking that looked like Brody. She might try to pretend it's Brody's though.
My speculation - why else would Carrie keep the baby and not get an abortion? She's a pragmatist. She knows better than anyone else that she's not equipped for a child (certainly now, possibly ever). It's only because she still has "Brody-feelings" that the pregnancy is something she's potentially considering. If it was really liquor store fuckbuddy's or anyone else's I'd be shocked.
brianjones
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they give him such ridiculous dialogue
"you sound like you're fucking high!"
i swear he said something similar to carrie too
otherwise it was a good ep
I doubt the writers would even bother with a pregnancy storyline if it wasn't Brody's child. Nobody even knows the name of the random dude Carrie was screwing, he's had like one minute of screen time.
My predictions: Brody's name will be cleared, he'll come back to America and move in with Carrie to start a family (ugh), that plot point will also keep the Brody family involved in the story, and season 4 will be about the CIA using Brody as an asset to find the terrorist who bombed the CIA. Bam, all of a sudden Brody is crucial to the plot again and Showtime execs are happy.
What if Javadi was telling the truth though? That he passed on the keys, and knew what was going to happen?
a secret-boss
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oh man oh man great episode. this whole intrigue taking me to the edge of my seat.
haven't watch a great episode like this since Breaking Bad
time for Saul to take names and be a boss
Damn I have a feeling Quinn is going to die because of Carrie
haven't watch a great episode like this since Breaking Bad
time for Saul to take names and be a boss
Damn I have a feeling Quinn is going to die because of Carrie
Given the (seemingly abandonded) mole plot, it makes sense that Saul wouldn't be able to trust anyone else with the plan. One leak and it all goes to hell.
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