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Homeland: Season 3 - |Pledge Allegiance|
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yeah this has become tiresome. She's just pathetic now.
StopMakingSense
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The whole thing doesn't make any sense from any angle. So Jivadi's immediate boss gets killed by an American, right after he gets back from America (where he left his handlers for a chunk of time), and no one is going to immediately suspect Jivadi having anything to do with it? Especially after he single handedly brings Brody into the country, no questions asked?
But I am still enjoying this, besides Ridiculous Carrie. Brody kids is better than Carrie at this point.
But I am still enjoying this, besides Ridiculous Carrie. Brody kids is better than Carrie at this point.
Welcome to the Homeland.
phazedplasma
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So much this. Next week is going to be the worst.
phazedplasma
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Hopefully she'll hide in a cart of hay next week.
BoboBrazil
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How can it be Brody's? He was back in the US for over two weeks and we know that due to the 16 day training montage. So we can assume 3 weeks due to the heroin clearing out of his system. That makes it 12 weeks or a little less than 3 months from the bombing until when they brought Brody back into the country. Are we supposed to assume that everything that happened with Carrie in the mental hospital and with the CIA has taken place in under 3 months? And that's assuming Carrie had sex with Brody and got pregnant the day the bombing happened.
As a starting point, the last time they had sex was at the cabin the day before the memorial for the vice president. Using way too much information gathered from thinking about the events and checking Wikipedia episode entries, I've got:
1 day to the attack
58 days between the attack and Carrie giving testimony
7 days tops for Carrie in the hospital (she is initially only committed for 24 hours, then 1-3 days more plus some padding) and meeting with the lawyer as soon as she's out
1 day for adventures in finding Dana and Carrie being kidnapped
2 days for meeting Javadi, his murder spree, Saul's interrogation and delivering Javadi to the plane
72 days minimum, aka 10 weeks
At this point, the next thing we see is Saul briefing the White House and Carrie being told she's 13 weeks pregnant. Then when Brody arrives at the Iran border, Quinn says she's about 15 weeks pregnant.
That timeline puts her with Brody, with generous room to pad out some of these events where the show is less specific, but they have given a lot of actual numbers, and we have seen a lot of events just roll right into the next ones. They slept together a number of times in S2. Pick a time for conception, the timeline will be workable.
AngmarsKing701
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Pretty good episode. Loved the Iraq/Iran bits. Carrie crying is so because of her pregnancy. Maybe.
Let's not kid ourselves. The baby is Brody's.
Let's not kid ourselves. The baby is Brody's.
This guy hasn't seen the Anne Hathaway SNL skit has he?
Kadayi
Banned
Enjoyed the episode but 
at best beard guy. I was all 'yeah Brody and best beard guy getting the bromance on in Iraq!!' doing undercover stuff *brofist*'. Then that Javadi guy just had to come along and ruin the party (F'ing asshole). Still best beard guy made the mistake of saying he had kids last episode which is always a no no.
at best beard guy. I was all 'yeah Brody and best beard guy getting the bromance on in Iraq!!' doing undercover stuff *brofist*'. Then that Javadi guy just had to come along and ruin the party (F'ing asshole). Still best beard guy made the mistake of saying he had kids last episode which is always a no no.AngmarsKing701
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Yep I saw it. But the hoooooooorrrrmmoooooonnnneeeesssssssss Saul!
SCULLIBUNDO
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a secret-boss
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hot damn. this show keeps delivering. that was an intense episode.
Sad to see Beard guy die, but it gives Brody reason this kill their plant
Sad to see Beard guy die, but it gives Brody reason this kill their plant
It's a testament to the strength of the episode that many people were sad when Beard guy died. I don't think I caught his name either. Hehe.
The bearded guy who got shot, was he the guy in the previous episode that was playing chess with Brody? I couldn't tell. If so, that sucks. I liked him, he was a cool dude.
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Brody escaped unscathed from his car being blown in half and flipped over. Not even a scratch on his forehead or anything. Ridiculous. The guy is the new Wolverine.
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Brody escaped unscathed from his car being blown in half and flipped over. Not even a scratch on his forehead or anything. Ridiculous. The guy is the new Wolverine.
Al-ibn Kermit
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This last episode was intense but the moment Javid showed up, I knew what he was going to do. The thing is, it actually is getting a little too unrealistic now. You have Al Qaeda's top triple agent terrorist getting welcomed into Iran, even though Shias are targets of AQ and Iran hates them as a result. And this guy is supposed to kill one dude way up the food chain and then get out of the country. And this is supposed to happen in a way that redeems Brodey but doesn't blow back on the US, exposing all the shenanigans involved in using America's most wanted man to carry out an assassination.
And they dropped a hellfire missile on an Iraqi army patrol because shit just happens you know?
And they dropped a hellfire missile on an Iraqi army patrol because shit just happens you know?
Well, they intentionally missed it was meant to force them to pull back so the Spec Ops guys could retreat.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Still how exactly is AQ supposed to be dropping hellfire missiles?
I'm guessing they'll blame it on mortar fire.
Slurpy2k20
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This show has gotten so, so fucked. I'm only watching because how hilariously horrible it is- and the sad thing is it's still taking itself seriously. This "plan" is so, so ridiculous, from so many angles.
Oh, and I hated Carrie in this episode, emotionally manipulating the Iranian employee and pressuring her to put herself and her family in danger, cause all she gives a shit about is Brodie, and is willing to sacrifice anyone else's life for him. We all see where this is going. Her uncle, and probably entire family is going to get fucked. She should tell Carrie to fuck herself, but she wont- she'll accept of course, then face the predictable consequences.
Oh, and I hated Carrie in this episode, emotionally manipulating the Iranian employee and pressuring her to put herself and her family in danger, cause all she gives a shit about is Brodie, and is willing to sacrifice anyone else's life for him. We all see where this is going. Her uncle, and probably entire family is going to get fucked. She should tell Carrie to fuck herself, but she wont- she'll accept of course, then face the predictable consequences.
did we?
Kadayi
Banned
Gotta be said Danes can give Jim Carrey a run for the money in the gurning stakes. The difference being he does it for laughs, where as she's just comedy. I certainly don't begrudge her the Emmy wins (fully deserved for some great performances), but she could certainly do with toning the face gymnastics.
She's completely histrionic at all times. It's annoying and completely unbelievable (i.e., unrealistic), considering that someone would NEVER be able to act the way she acts and still have a job.
Slurpy2k20
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It's because when a show is popular, they get greedy, and decide not to fucking end it as was probably the original plan. They have to keep coming up with unrealistic shit that has more and ore shock factor while keeping all the characters around, so yeah, its inevitable.
The hilarious thing is that Brodie seems to be doing this "for his daughter" when this same daughter didn't even give a shit when he told her he didn't do the bombing. She's then gonna love him for going and doing some covert assassination shit in Iran?
Wait til you watch the most recent episode.
AngmarsKing701
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aorange999
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Bearded dudes were the best thing to happen to this show in ages. Episodes like this are the reason I kept up with this show after the shit show of season 2 and Dana. If the writers and show runners did a better job of giving us one of these every 2 episodes or so this show might be able to relive the triumph of season 1.
In a perfect world Quinn would've sniped Carrie in her stupid face a few episodes ago and the rest of the show is just SEAL Team Beard doing CIA missions for Saul.
AngmarsKing701
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I'd watch that
Make Quinn the leader of the beard team and we have a deal...
Morrigan Stark
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Skyler was never annoying and don't you dare compare her to Lori.
dead souls
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Skyler was never annoying and don't you dare compare her to Lori.
Agreed. And why are we even talking about getting rid of Carrie? She is the show. There's no Homeland without Danes.
Vulcano's assistant
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I don't know guys, I had the biggest smile in my face when she thought Brody died in the car. I swear there is an audience just for making this woman suffer.
Al-ibn Kermit
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There's no way the daughter would believe him at first and even if he was telling the truth, he abandoned his family while they took all the hate for the bombing. I thought the reason for telling him about her suicide attempt was to convince him that it'll give her back some hope again.
Cornballer
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AngmarsKing701
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Needs Saul going all Governor : "kill them all!"
AngmarsKing701
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Cold. Blooded.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
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