Afford it? Insurance companies are going to RUN from it. It's group insurance or nothing baby.
House GOP may pass Senate's "skinny repeal" outright. CALL YOUR SENATORS.
- Thread starter Jordan117
- Start date
Afford it? Insurance companies are going to RUN from it. It's group insurance or nothing baby.
BoboBrazil
Member
Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes
The senator speaking right now represents 585,000 people. There are almost 1.5 million people in the Bronx.
10:41 PM · Jul 27, 2017
He's hogging up all the time so Democrats can't speak against it before midnight
The senator speaking right now represents 585,000 people. There are almost 1.5 million people in the Bronx.
10:41 PM · Jul 27, 2017
He's hogging up all the time so Democrats can't speak against it before midnight
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
20% increase yoy is mind-boggling.
Healthcare is literally a snowball rolling down a mountain.
Healthcare is literally a snowball rolling down a mountain.
You ever seen the episode of Family Guy episode where Peter goes to Congress to go for a bill for big tobacco that is terrible on all levels, and his big sell is, 'Come on, guys, just come on. Come on.' And they all agree that sure, why not.
Basically that in real life.
No... people are pointing out to you that diehards aren't enough to keep the gop afloat. Some people have a stopping point and healthcare is thee way to test where that is.
Hopefully this would go into effect soon enough for that to happen.
That's because the (some of the) people voting for these piece of shit bills know it looks bad, with the help of pressure. But they persist because they still feel the pressure to "do something about it".
Of course. But getting to that stopping point has led to people losing healthcare and seeing their premiums go up.
So some shitheel senator is just running the clock, which is why the democrats can't attempt an "old fashioned" filibuster. Makes sense.
The same people who are voting for this now thought the AHCA was not extreme enough. People like Paul, while huge dickheads, do have (shitty) values they support enough to vote against the previous GOP bills. Most of the GOP just wants a win though, which is why they are passing this shitstain of a bill. They just want to avoid the embarrassment of not getting rid of the ACA (though this doesn't officially kill the ACA, it effectively does) after saying they would for 7 years. That's it.
The same people who are voting for this now thought the AHCA was not extreme enough. People like Paul, while huge dickheads, do have (shitty) values they support enough to vote against the previous GOP bills. Most of the GOP just wants a win though, which is why they are passing this shitstain of a bill. They just want to avoid the embarrassment of not getting rid of the ACA (though this doesn't officially kill the ACA, it effectively does) after saying they would for 7 years. That's it.
The one "bright side" (god I hate that I'm calling it that) to this bill is it goes into effect immediately (15 million loose insurance, 20% hike next year alone), so the republicans will face penalties at the ballot box, whereas their other bills would've gone into effect only after 2018. I still don't want this POS to pass more than any other bill, because the consequences are going to be fucking stark.
It looks like it's retroactive to the beginning of this year.
They hate Obama, but they also kind of hate dying.
Glitchesarecool
Member
If the house passes it tomorrow it goes right to the Cheetos desk and you know he won't hesitate.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Hey guys, its midnight, lets take healthcare away from millions of people. Quick call the VP.
TumblingHippo
Member
More Democrats and left leaning Independents better survive the fallout of losing health insurance if there's to be any hope from this, I suppose. I'll prolly die if I lose my healthcare but I hope more do better off.
There will be shit plans so you can at least get a foot in the door at the hospital. Basically paying for this so you won't be turned away if your sick, you'll be on the hook for most of the bill but at least they won't kick you out.
16 million uninsured with premiums going up by 20% predicted next year.
Fox Mulder
Member
.
Last edited:
Fly-over states were a mistake.
Which is an election year.
How are they this fucking stupid? Or do they just not care? Do they think it won't matter? Did they brainwash themselves, too?
balladofwindfishes
Member
They're not repealing the minimum coverage rules, so those plans still won't exist
Glitchesarecool
Member
John Rabbit
Banned
Mighty Chin
Banned
Please Proceed
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
This is what I keep coming back to. How does this pass the Byrd rule?
Too quick.
Nope. Because they aren't getting rid of the Obamacare minimum coverage standards.
This is worse than before Obamacare because they can't even offer the shitty coverage that excluded preventative care and pre-existing conditions.
Rural hospitals are going to drop like flies when this thing takes effect.
A little of all. The GOP has been notoriously short-sighted since at least Obama came into office.
Don't be silly about it, tell him the real reason since there is one.
They rearranged some of the funding to Planned Parenthood and stuff of that nature to make it meet reconciliation standards.
Because it saves money.
NullPointer
Member
Babymario26
Member
Man if this thing passes i wonder how many times i will hear "well obamacare really wasnt any better"
Welp. Lol. Good luck to everyone out there.
The amount of stupid this is is why I still have a tiny sliver of hope it dies. It's shrinking, but it's still there.
Like the politicians themselves, that electorate was yelling about a thing it never thought it would get to address. They're collectively the dog that actually caught the car and pretend time will dissolve.
Ironic that rural America is what won Trump the election, essentially. Oops! If only there was a group of people who fuckin new this was going to happen to you...
is it though
Allot... because their supporters can't take responsibility.
I'm sure they already have the surrogates lined up. And CNN will gladly give them time.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
That still doesn't compute. For example, the cuts in planned parenthood didn't pass reconciliation.