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i suppose you can throw me into the group with boogie and demon, as i can't get a girl either. the thing is, there are women who are interested in me from time to time, but i always seem to fuck it up somehow... i suck at life.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

Too long you've wandered in winter, far from my far reaching gaze....

I'm the angel of music, so picking up chicks is easy. Keeping them around during my organ solo, however, proves to be difficult.

 

[Shadax]

If that doesn't work you can always just do like me and drink a lot.

Amen, brother Wellington.

 

[enjoy bell woods]

i never relised how hard it is for some guys to get a girl, i never have anyproblem with girls so i never really appriciated how lucky i am to be the guy that almost every woman wants.

but as i said to you earlier in this thread, change the way you think and you will get a girl!

so go back out there again and do as i said and you wont fail i know it.

good luck mate

You're really arrogant.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

You're really arrogant.

And confident, which is why he gets the chicks, and most dudes here are left to hump their Dead or Alive body pillows. It's a tough life.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

You're really arrogant.

I actually enjoy Robertsans posts. That post might have sounded a little arrogant, but he always gives advice first, and if you look at the pictures of the girls that he's got with, his advice is definatelyh worth listening to.

 

[dskillzhtown]

...

Yeah, I said it. We actually have a great relationship, but the problem is I am a night owl and she loves to sleep. So I do find myself laying in bed with my mind wondering what I could be doing.

 

[Zelda-Bitch]

The trick is to rock out with your cock out, Girls dig it.

No words are required. If you like a chick, show her your prick.


p.s.- I write poems for cash.

 

[enjoy bell woods]

I actually enjoy Robertsans posts. That post might have sounded a little arrogant, but he always gives advice first, and if you look at the pictures of the girls that he's got with, his advice is definatelyh worth listening to.

He looks a lot different than most of the people this sort of forum attracts.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

And confident, which is why he gets the chicks, and most dudes here are left to hump their Dead or Alive body pillows. It's a tough life.

:lol
Well, at least those body pillows are easy and don't talk back.

 

[darscot]

The art of attracting the opposite sex is a strange beast. Once you figure it out, it's like riding a bike. Your going to get some real nasty road rash from this bike before you ride it though. It also is one of those things that you really can't teach. you have to listen to what people say and learn it on you own.

My Advice
Stop trying to pick up chicks. This is so many guys fatal flaw. Try being a better guy to everyone around you. Women are watchign you more then you can imagine. You need to look like a good guy all the time if you ever want to land a women.

 

[Boogie]

My Advice
Stop trying to pick up chicks. This is so many guys fatal flaw. Try being a better guy to everyone around you. Women are watchign you more then you can imagine. You need to look like a good guy all the time if you ever want to land a women.

Goddammit, this doesn't work, I'm telling you. Just because it's good advice in general does not mean that it's a sure fire solution that if you live your life as a "good guy" that some women will automatically be attracted to you.

In other news, I hadn't blocked Kimberly from my msn yet, and I noticed that her msn picture is of her in another guy's arms. Fuckitty-fucking fuck.

 

[dskillzhtown]

The art of attracting the opposite sex is a strange beast. Once you figure it out, it's like riding a bike. Your going to get some real nasty road rash from this bike before you ride it though. It also is one of those things that you really can't teach. you have to listen to what people say and learn it on you own.

My Advice
Stop trying to pick up chicks. This is so many guys fatal flaw. Try being a better guy to everyone around you. Women are watchign you more then you can imagine. You need to look like a good guy all the time if you ever want to land a women.

Good advice. At my job, I just try to be nice to everyone and dress halfway decent. I am involved at the moment, so I am not really looking or trying to hit anyone up. But I have 5 women who have e-mailed me their numbers telling me to call at any time. Kind of strange. But like darscot said, women do look at everything you do. I was told that one thing that makes me attractive is the fact that I am so nice to everyone.

Last night I was at a bar with my brother and this HOT latina sat at the bar, next to a guy that just started talking to her. He was 'cocky+funny' and it worked out. He had her laughing and smiling the entire time. He got the digits and had a great time. Sometimes just being nice and being yourself works. Now of course on the first date he could screw it all up, but he has a good chance now. You also have to put yourself in a situation/place to meet someone. I mean, you are not going to meet anyone sitting at home 24/7. Go to a bar, go to a bookstore, a coffee shop, a place you actually enjoy being at.

 

[darscot]

Just to expand my point a little. If your a good guy all the time women will approach you. Those are the women you should pay attention too. I dont think I have ever made the first move on a women in my life. You just need to ease back watch and learn. Approaching women that haven't signaled you in is stupidity.

 

[Boogie]

Just to expand my point a little. If your a good guy all the time women will approach you. Those are the women you should pay attention too. I dont think I have ever made the first move on a women in my life. You just need to ease back watch and learn. Approaching women that haven't signaled you in is stupidity.

I'm the fucking poster boy for chivalry and kindness. I'm the Noble Protector. And I've NEVER really had a women approach me.

So dammit, please stop it with the blanket generalized ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS. Because there are exceptions to every one of your Universal Facts.

 

[cloudwalking]

I'm the fucking poster boy for chivalry and kindness. I'm the Noble Protector. And I've NEVER really had a women approach me.

So dammit, please stop it with the blanket generalized ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS. Because there are exceptions to every one of your Universal Facts.

He's right. Every girl is different, that's all it comes down to. I have friends who will blush and thank you when you do something kind like hold open a door for them, and others will get highly offended.

The best thing to do is become friends with a girl first, but don't try too hard. Let it naturally happen. If your personalities click, you're headed in the right direction.

Don't go for a girl that won't make you happy. You know, the one that's really hot but you have nothing in common with. Unless you're looking for a fling, or you're asking to be heartbroken, stick to girls that treat you like an equal, and someone to truly cherish.

Advice from an actual girl here.

 

[Boogie]

The best thing to do is become friends with a girl first, but don't try too hard. Let it naturally happen. If your personalities click, you're headed in the right direction.

Become friends with a girl first? Nope, sorry, I know better. I may be clueless, but I ain't so delusioned to believe that one works.

 

[darscot]

You just have to work on those observations skills. Women are sly beasts. The opening move from a women can be a split second of eye contact, toss of her hair, the way she squares her shoulders. That's all there going to give you. When you get the sign you go in. After a while the slightest signal from a women will be as clear to you as the guy guiding planes with with the two flashlights.

 

[cloudwalking]

Become friends with a girl first? Nope, sorry, I know better. I may be clueless, but I ain't so delusioned to believe that one works.

Hm, well, I guess everyone has their own methods.

Speaking personally, I like it when a guy attempts to get to know me and doesn't treat me any different than any other of his friends. But like I said, all girls are different.

 

[Boogie]

You just have to work on those observations skills. Women are sly beasts. The opening move from a women can be a split second of eye contact, toss of her hair, the way she squares her shoulders. That's all there going to give you. When you get the sign you go in. After a while the slightest signal from a women will be as clear to you as the guy guiding planes with with the two flashlights.

Okay, that's fine. But you said "approach" before, which definitely has a different connotation than what you've described here.

 

[Boogie]

Hm, well, I guess everyone has their own methods.

Speaking personally, I like it when a guy attempts to get to know me and doesn't treat me any different than any other of his friends. But like I said, all girls are different.

Most guys do not believe the "Friends" ravine can be crossed. I know that it can happen, but in general, and from attempted personal experience, I am of the opinion that once you're friends, you can't become anything more.

 

[Fresh Prince]

That sucks Boogie :\
Well atleast humanity is safe again.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Yup, me too. It's almost time to teach the comical, mysoginistic, yet eerily applicable "ladder theory" to any initiates perusing the thread.

 

[cloudwalking]

Most guys do not believe the "Friends" ravine can be crossed. I know that it can happen, but in general, and from attempted personal experience, I am of the opinion that once you're friends, you can't become anything more.

As clichéd as it sounds, I would say that my boyfriend is my best friend, and that we reached that point far before we decided we were in love.

But I can see what you mean, that some people would prefer to approach it a different way, with companionship coming first, and let the friendship part come later. I really think it depends what kind of girl you are dealing with, though.

 

[Fresh Prince]

It's obvious- be bisexual double your chances.

 

[Boogie]

That sucks Boogie :\
Well atleast humanity is safe again.

There's a comic book idea somewhere here, methinks :-/

 

[demon]

Become friends with a girl first? Nope, sorry, I know better. I may be clueless, but I ain't so delusioned to believe that one works.

Just curious, but have you ever tried escalating it to something more than "friendship" with any of these girls? Sometimes I get the feeling you'd have more luck if you were just more of an assertive prick with girls.

Most guys do not believe the "Friends" ravine can be crossed. I know that it can happen, but in general, and from attempted personal experience, I am of the opinion that once you're friends, you can't become anything more.

I think there's a difference between "starting off friendly as buddies" and "becoming just friends". You're probably screwed if you're in the latter (unless the friendship is built on some kind of sexual attraction/tension.....been there), but the former is probably one of the biggest gateways to getting laid/girlfriends before it congeals into something of a permanent "just friends" relationship.

It's obvious- be bisexual double your chances.

If I were gay I definitely would have been laid by now. DAMN YOU GOD/GENES.

 

[Boogie]

Just curious, but have you ever tried escalating it to something more than "friendship" with any of these girls? Sometimes I get the feeling you'd have more luck if you were just more of an assertive prick with girls.

One of my good friends gave me the "I love you like a brother" line. Not much potential there, imo

 

[demon]

One of my good friends gave me the "I love you like a brother" line. Not much potential there, imo

Ask her if she's into incest fantasies. Maybe you need to proverbially whip out your schlong earlier on with these chicks.

And sorry to hear about the girl. That sucks.

 

[Piecake]

One of my good friends gave me the "I love you like a brother" line. Not much potential there, imo

Well, i think the friendship barrier can be crossed. The key thing is not to be an emotional support kind of friend. If you're that, you're probably stuck in the friend zone. If you are just friends who hang out and have a good time, then i think the friend barrier can be crossed. Well, i know it can be crossed because i did it

 

[radioheadrule83]

^^^ yeah.

I've learned recently to tell when I'm being used to compensate for something. I'm in no way experienced enough to qualify my own advice -- but I can sternly assure you -- don't be someone's tool. I know girls who have been actively seeking other guys, or actually been dating other people, and they're coming to me for the affection they're failing to get from those guys. It stinks. I've noticed this really recently with someone I know, and I'm not gonna have it.

And then there's the people who aren't interested in you, but would rather you're around and interested in them than not at all. It's funny -- I gave this one girl all the attention in the world I could muster, and looking back I got kinda daft & needy about it. She just didn't like me, and desperately didn't wanna hurt my feelings I don't think... I get negative and ashamed just thinkin about shit like that... but as soon as I cut myself off from her a little - some part of me was really gratified my attention was missed. Even if we will never be together.

Ask her if she's into incest fantasies. Maybe you need to proverbially whip out your schlong earlier on with these chicks.

And sorry to hear about the girl. That sucks.

Damn it! I've had this line just like Boogie before, and I find it so very insulting...

but that is the perfect response. I can't believe I've never used it before :lol So simple, so getting me a slap, but it'll be so worth it!

 

[DHGamer]

hopefully try and show them that I'm a nice guy and hopefully not like every other random jerk that would hit on them.

OK, there's your problem right there... serioiusly. Many girls may be looking for a 'nice guy' but wouldn't date one if they came across that way in the beginning. You need to show an outward confidence in yourself and treat any girl the same whether they are attractive to you or not.

Take a laid back approach, you know... whatever happens, happens. Don't go looking and definatly don't portray yourself as desperate. Remember.. outward confidence. Stop trying to be nice ( don't act like an ass either btw ). Once you crack the first nut and land your first girlfriend it becomes much easier as it's all a learning experience.

To sum up:

Outward Confidence

Don't appear desperate

Let whatever happens, happen... tell yourself you could care less

A thousand points of light etc etc etc

HTH

 

[Pedigree Chum]

I'm 21 and I don't think I'll ever get a girl. I don't really care anymore.

Same. It's not a big deal cause I have WAY more important things to worry about at the time being (like building a career).

 

[demon]

Same. It's not a big deal cause I have WAY more important things to worry about at the time being (like building a career).

I'm thinking of trying to combine the two..

 

[Pedigree Chum]

I'm thinking of trying to combine the two..

That is of course the ultimate goal

Seriously, girls, even in Uni are fucking chatty headed bitches (from the ones I've met).

 

[Koshiro]

Look, Boogie et al, make lots of friends, female friends. Do not even consider approaching them, be actually nice, and they will likely introduce you to someone. However, getting lots of friends is impossibly difficult (where the hell do you go to meet them?). Just do normal things, a friend of mine at an old job matchmade me. Just forget about thie shitty social pressure (I purposely went without a girlfriend through education, ie. saying no when they asked, in order to focus on getting a god damned degree, so I know all about that pressure, it SUCKS). Media, 'loud' friends etc all make out that you have to sleep with a girl by a certain age, but its bullshit, ignore it. Do the whole education and various jobs thing, in time it will come as a side effect of you focussing on other things. "Oh but I've tried that for 20 years and it doesn't work!". Try for 20 more years, it'll happen, you just have to be hella patient and strong willed enough to not let the social pressure get to you.

 

[rastex]

That is of course the ultimate goal

Seriously, girls, even in Uni are fucking chatty headed bitches (from the ones I've met).

You're in Waterloo right Pedigree? Hahaha man, Waterloo girls are the absolute WORST. Since the guy to girl ratio is about 20:1, there are so many guys going after every girl that all the girls start thinking they're hot and all of that. Of course any of these girls if in Toronto or even London would be at the bottom of the barrel in terms of looks and all of that. Which brings me to my next point, that girls in London rock and are very easy to talk to. In fact when I go to London it just blows my mind how many poindexters are dancing with hot girls, blows my mind.


More generally, 95% of whether a girl wants you or not is dependent on how you look. It sucks, I know but that's the truth. One of the most important things I read, that once incorporated into my life made all the difference, is that a girl knows if she wants to be with you within 5 seconds of seeing you. Even if it's not true, and yes there are plenty of exceptions, blah blah blah, living my life by that theory has made things so much simpler and easier. Just like Darscot was saying about girls giving signs and all of that, if I make eye contact with a girl and I smile (I always smile to everyone I make eye contact with) and she doesn't smile back, I never look at her again. Easy as that.

For the guys stuck in the friends zone, God, it's just way too much effort to be worth anything. Seriously, in high school I had a TON of girl friends, and was always talking to them and all of that crap. All my other guy friends never did any of that and got tons of girls to my complete bewilderment. But after some coaxing and realization on my own, I said screw it, girls aren't worth the time, I'd rather just hang out with my guy friends. Once I did that and stopped wasting my time with those useless girls things got a lot better very quickly. Plus, I got to hang out with my good friends that I'd been neglecting.

Of course now that I'm in a long term relationship the neglecting of my guy friends has unfortunately resurfaced...

 

[Pedigree Chum]

You're in Waterloo right Pedigree? Hahaha man, Waterloo girls are the absolute WORST.

Yes, and agreed. Fucking the girls here suck.

 

[McLesterolBeast]

It's definitely the worst school in canada in terms of ladies. Too fucking bad.

Everyone in math and eng assumes that the arts faculty is better, but save for psych and soc, it isn't. Of the two english classes ive taken, both were filled with girls - but they were almost exclusively fatties. Econ is suprisingly bad, especially when you consider that half of the hot ones barely speak english (that's what im in).

 

[rastex]

Seriously man, you and some friends should just take a roadtrip to London for a weekend, I'm sure you know some people down there to crash with. Go to clubs like Phoenix, and The Drink and you'll have a way better chance of meeting girls. GTs is ok on thursdays for girls, it's just crazy packed which can be annoying. I don't go to any of the bars like Ceeps, Jack's or anything like that so I can't really comment on them, but I'm sure they're your usually bar crowd (predominantly caucasian) which isn't my scene.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Goddammit, this doesn't work, I'm telling you. Just because it's good advice in general does not mean that it's a sure fire solution that if you live your life as a "good guy" that some women will automatically be attracted to you.

In other news, I hadn't blocked Kimberly from my msn yet, and I noticed that her msn picture is of her in another guy's arms. Fuckitty-fucking fuck.

destroy her. or i can do it for you if you want. then i'll get you back in tip-top shape so you can once again becoe the champion against the apocolypse.

 

[darscot]

The bar scene gets tired pretty quick. It's a good place to build or destroy your confidence. Any attempt to "pick up" at a bar should be considered research and good humor.

 

[rastex]

The bar scene gets tired pretty quick. It's a good place to build or destroy your confidence. Any attempt to "pick up" at a bar should be considered research and good humor.

Agreed, you can get lucky (pun not-intended) and find a cool girl that may lead into something interesting/long-term. But the girls that you do want to get with longterm, aren't looking for longterm guys in clubs. Tried Tested and True is always the friends of a friend approach. Let me see if I can dig up some things from my single days...

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

The question shouldn't be, "what should I do around girls to make myself appear attractive." It should be, "what should I do to improve myself." If you're successful, smart, and in good shape, the confidence will come naturally. People who feign confidence and use a stringent set of rules when dealing with women most often fail because they're not acting naturally. Become the confidence guy with a wealth of knowledge and you won't need to pretend to be something you're not.

 

[Socreges]

The question shouldn't be, "what should I do around girls to make myself appear attractive." It should be, "what should I do to improve myself." If you're successful, smart, and in good shape, the confidence will come naturally. People who feign confidence and use a stringent set of rules when dealing with women most often fail because they're not acting naturally. Become the confidence guy with a wealth of knowledge and you won't need to pretend to be something you're not.

Well put.

I'd like to add that women most susceptible to rules, such as Cocky/Funny, are often not worth your time.

 

[Boogie]

If you're successful, smart, and in good shape, the confidence will come naturally.

umm, I'm in great shape, smart, and successful (err, in school ). Where's my confidence, please?

 

[darscot]

One more tid bit of advice. Women and your love life will be streaky. You'll be so fucking cold it's depressing. Then a girl will show interest and you'll get so fucking hot it's crazy women will be coming at you like you never dreamed. DON'T get greedy! If you get greedy and start to date multiple women you'll get burned and end up back in Siberia. When one women wants you they all want you. Nobody stays hot all the time the guys that say they do just go slummin when thier cold.

 

[Piecake]

umm, I'm in great shape, smart, and successful (err, in school ). Where's my confidence, please?

Youre lack of confidence is due to the fact that you want a girl but you think that you cant get one. A vicious cycle. If you think you can get a girl, or just stop caring, confidence will come. If you cant do either, you could always just pretend or act. You're still in school, so take some acting classes

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

One more tid bit of advice. Women and your love life will be streaky. You'll be so fucking cold it's depressing. Then a girl will show interest and you'll get so fucking hot it's crazy women will be coming at you like you never dreamed. DON'T get greedy! If you get greedy and start to date multiple women you'll get burned and end up back in Siberia. When one women wants you they all want you. Nobody stays hot all the time the guys that say they do just go slummin when thier cold.

Damn right!

I get a girlfriend and suddenly others are interested...where the hell were you when I was looking 6 months ago!?

But Boogie, just keep at it man, can't let a few mishaps get you down

And don't dis the Cock and Fun!

There's no 'type' that is susceptible, lots of women like jerks or people with lots of confidence. It's just when you're Cocky and Funny you give off that confidence whether you really have it or not.

 

[Dilbert]

umm, I'm in great shape, smart, and successful (err, in school ). Where's my confidence, please?

Where indeed.

I'm starting to think you REVEL in being alone, because it's a comfortable situation for you....like you've fallen in love with the "lonesome loser" persona.