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I just got my first ever D.U.I...first time in jail, ever. :(

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Drunk driving defense force

Yeah, seriously, there's no excuse for what he did. I don't care if he has social anxiety or mental health issues, he's an adult and made a very poor choice.

OP, this is a wake up call. Get your life together and be thankful you didn't kill anyone.
 
The worst part of your DUI was it had consequences for you? Cute.

No, the worst part about it was that I wasn't intoxicated & they failed my sobriety test due to my "eye twitching", I wasn't served any paperwork agreeing to a blood test and they said I verbally agreed or some bullshit, which of course showed stuff in my system, and once that happens no matter what lawyer you get I end up with an OWI.

Did I mention I got pulled over for going 32 in a 25 literally a block from my house? Cop followed me for almost 2 miles. Wouldn't even let me walk home.

But don't bother asking what or how it happened just jump to conclusions. Like most people on their high horse.
 
I rarely post on things like this, but I feel like I have to here.

Zero sympathy from me. None. I was hit by a drunk driver a few years ago and it pretty much ruined my life. Between the accident, the attorneys, and the final outcome, I'm over having any sympathy for drunk drivers.

I get that anxiety is an issue, but getting behind the wheel when intoxicated is probably the worst thing any "good" person can do. It doesn't take much effort to call someone or get a taxi. Your situation sucks, but the only person to blame here is you.
 

Hex

Banned
You rather have the officer's word AND breathalyzer evidence vs. officer's word?

Don't say anything to the cop. Go to lockup. Lawyer up.

Better idea.
Don't fucking drive drunk like a jackass.
For fuck sake, I can not believe there are people out there who coddle people who drink and drive.
 
For fuck sake, I can not believe there are people out there who coddle people who drink and drive.

How I feel about most of the responses in this thread. I get that the OP is down on himself and is in a shitty situation, but the woe is me excuses for driving drunk are just that, excuses. He's not a fucking child, he's an adult and acted poorly that could have resulted in someone getting killed.
 
Oh and OP a temp license actually isn't that bad.

If it's anything like Wisconsin you get a ton of hours to use and it's easy to spread them out. You could essentially do

6am-10am, 12-3pm, 6-9pm, etc. Just spread them out. Could even state you work 3rd shift and put in hours after midnight. They don't check in with your job at all.
 

RulkezX

Member
It's weird seeing how relaxed US people are about drink driving.

If you get caught over the limit here it's an instant ban , you're a social pariah , your insurance premiums are fucked for life , and at most places I've worked you're getting sacked.
 
It's weird seeing how relaxed US people are about drink driving.

If you get caught over the limit here it's an instant ban , you're a social pariah , your insurance premiums are fucked for life , and at most places I've worked you're getting sacked.

What? The majority of Americans do not accept Drunk Driving.

But the DUI laws vary from state to state. Some states are lenient, others have a zero tolerance policy.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Truly a defense force for everything these days

FFS, no one is saying it's okay to drive drunk. Since when is trying to understand WHY someone took an action the same as condoning said action?

Anyone OP, seek help. I've had friends and family die due to drunk drivers. Almost nothing enrages me more. Just get some help and some common sense before you hurt someone else.

It's weird seeing how relaxed US people are about drink driving.

If you get caught over the limit here it's an instant ban , you're a social pariah , your insurance premiums are fucked for life , and at most places I've worked you're getting sacked.

Yes, now turn it into a "US" thing. I'm almost at a win in "GAF thread bingo."
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
...

...

...I wonder...

*brings up smartphone*

Okay Google

~blip bleep~

Call a cab

~here are a list of cabs in your area~

!

doesn't even need technology.

"Hey bartender, have you got the number for a local cab company?"

"Yeah, 555-555-5555"

"thanks"
 
He's 25. He hasn't been a kid for awhile now.

Yeah by age but I knew the world before all the technological marvels, I think people in their 20s are like teenagers, but yeah he is an adult. That sob story got to me though, just want him to be ok and learn from his mistake.
 
...

...

...I wonder...

*brings up smartphone*

Okay Google

~blip bleep~

Call a cab

~here are a list of cabs in your area~

!

The OPs mental illness and mental health isnt sound. I'd expect his rational thought/logic would be compromised when drunk.

But yeah, no excuse to come up with bullshit to avoid taking a cab.
 
...

...

...I wonder...

*brings up smartphone*

Okay Google

~blip bleep~

Call a cab

~here are a list of cabs in your area~

!

He was drunk and panicking, that's why he didn't realize his options were as simple as getting a cab or sobering up by sleeping in his car etc. He made a mistake due to very poor judgement. If he were thinking with a clear mind obviously he would've not put people in danger by driving while drunk.
 

RulkezX

Member
The OPs mental illness and mental health isnt sound. I'd expect his rational thought/logic would be compromised when drunk.

But yeah, no excuse to come up with bullshit to avoid taking a cab.

He says in the OP he knew he shouldn't be driving , so he was of sound enough mind to know he was to drunk to drive but did it anyway.

He was drunk and panicking, that's why he didn't realize his options were as simple as getting a cab or sobering up by sleeping in his car etc. He made a mistake due to very poor judgement. If he were thinking with a clear mind obviously he would've not put people in danger by driving while drunk.

And this is just making excuses for him , he says "I would have no fucking clue how to even do that" when he was asked why he didn't call a cab.

A 25yo with an English degree from a "high level school" didn't get a cab because he didn't know how to.
 
It's weird seeing how relaxed US people are about drink driving.

If you get caught over the limit here it's an instant ban , you're a social pariah , your insurance premiums are fucked for life , and at most places I've worked you're getting sacked.
Man, getting fired? That's fucked.
 

Nocebo

Member
doesn't even need technology.

"Hey bartender, have you got the number for a local cab company?"

"Yeah, 555-555-5555"

"thanks"
He would have probably collapsed into a sobbing ball of fear and anxiousness before even reaching the bar, just from thinking about inconveniencing the bartender by asking him a question. And what about if the bartender is a meanie?
 

Nozem

Member
It's a good time for some serious changes in your life OP. Stop being a pushover, but more importantly I hope you've learned not to be a fucking drunk driving asshole anymore.
 
.13 isn't that fucked up. People make mistakes. You're not a monster or anything.

Holy shit. .13 isn't that fucked up? Hell, even .08 is legally drunk in almost every other civilized country in the world. I think Singapore along with Liechtenstein, and Malta are the only countries left in Europe that will let you go to .08. Everywhere else is .05 or less.

I remember when I came to California and got my licence converted I almost got tripped up on the DUI question because I spent my entire life with a .05 limit and it was .08 in CA.
 

The Lamp

Member
Just saying.... you're talking total bollocks. I've been drunk many many times and you know you've had too much to drink. Every single time.

No, I'm saying when you're DRUNK you may not have the astute judgment ability to consider how many people you will kill that night by driving. It's medical fact that your judgment is impaired and that can apply to any scenario. Even if you know you drank too much, knowledge is one small part of decision-making. If your judgment is impaired, you can decide something IN SPITE of knowledge you have.
 

Red

Member
No, the worst part about it was that I wasn't intoxicated & they failed my sobriety test due to my "eye twitching", I wasn't served any paperwork agreeing to a blood test and they said I verbally agreed or some bullshit, which of course showed stuff in my system, and once that happens no matter what lawyer you get I end up with an OWI.

Sounds legit.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
He's sharing personal information to the forum which makes him vulnerable, in an attempt to cope with and learn from a serious mistake. He's explaining why it happened, which doesn't need to be taken inherently as deferring responsibility or fishing for sympathy posts. He didn't go "LA LA LA I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WOO DRUNK DRIVING IS FUN," he was inexperienced with dealing with being downtown drunk by himself with his car, had an anxiety attack and didn't think clearly, and let himself get intoxicated enough that his previously established conditions for going out that night with his car got thrown out. This is because drinking causes you to make really stupid decisions that you wouldn't otherwise make, and it usually takes experience in hindsight with how you handle your drinking to know when you need to cut yourself off for the night and also overcome whatever your inebriation is telling you is okay in the moment.

Drunk driving is not good. No qualifiers. Lots of tragedy results from it and as an adult with awareness of this, with a sound mind it should be an easy enough thing to weigh against some inconveniences with your social life on a Friday night. Bottom line, though, is that if you don't live in an area with infrastructure set up to handle everyone's safe return from nightlife to home, drunk people will make stupid impulsive decisions en masse and drive back intoxicated, because the point of alcohol is to make you irrational and impulsive.

He's a fallible human being, like we all are. His intent matters here, which he shared in vivid detail, and whether he takes responsibility and doesn't let it happen again matters more, which remains to be seen, but given the length of the OP I think he's taking it seriously. A ton of drive-by posts attacking him with holier than thou attitudes about the concept of driving drunk is obnoxious and immature and pointless in itself. Most of us probably know someone who has died or been killed by a drunk driver. He made a mistake, an unacceptable but very common one, and is owning up to it. Now he has a wake up call and a record, and fortunately no one was hurt in the process. That's a good starting point for cleaning up this mess, probably highlighting the importance of sound mental health and seeing someone to help with his anxiety issues, and to mature overall. The OP doesn't diminish his character to me. It's what happens next that matters.
 

The Lamp

Member
He's sharing personal information to the forum which makes him vulnerable, in an attempt to cope with and learn from a serious mistake. He's explaining why it happened, which doesn't need to be taken inherently as deferring responsibility or fishing for sympathy posts. He didn't go "LA LA LA I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WOO DRUNK DRIVING IS FUN," he was inexperienced with dealing with being downtown drunk by himself with his car, had an anxiety attack and didn't think clearly, and let himself get intoxicated enough that his previously established conditions for going out that night with his car got thrown out. This is because drinking causes you to make really stupid decisions that you wouldn't otherwise make, and it usually takes experience in hindsight with how you handle your drinking to know when you need to cut yourself off for the night and also overcome whatever your inebriation is telling you is okay in the moment.

Drunk driving is not good. No qualifiers. Lots of tragedy results from it and as an adult with awareness of this, with a sound mind it should be an easy enough thing to weigh against some inconveniences with your social life on a Friday night. Bottom line, though, is that if you don't live in an area with infrastructure set up to handle everyone's safe return from nightlife to home, drunk people will make stupid impulsive decisions en masse and drive back intoxicated, because the point of alcohol is to make you irrational and impulsive.

He's a fallible human being, like we all are. His intent matters here, which he shared in vivid detail, and whether he takes responsibility and doesn't let it happen again matters more, which remains to be seen, but given the length of the OP I think he's taking it seriously. A ton of drive-by posts attacking him with holier than thou attitudes about the concept of driving drunk is obnoxious and immature and pointless in itself. Most of us probably know someone who has died or been killed by a drunk driver. He made a mistake, an unacceptable but very common one, and is owning up to it. Now he has a wake up call and a record, and fortunately no one was hurt in the process. That's a good starting point for cleaning up this mess, probably highlighting the importance of sound mental health and seeing someone to help with his anxiety issues, and to mature overall. The OP doesn't diminish his character to me. It's what happens next that matters.

Yeah, thanks for typing out what I would have typed but didn't want to. I completely agree.
 
He's sharing personal information to the forum which makes him vulnerable, in an attempt to cope with and learn from a serious mistake. He's explaining why it happened, which doesn't need to be taken inherently as deferring responsibility or fishing for sympathy posts. He didn't go "LA LA LA I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WOO DRUNK DRIVING IS FUN," he was inexperienced with dealing with being downtown drunk by himself with his car, had an anxiety attack and didn't think clearly, and let himself get intoxicated enough that his previously established conditions for going out that night with his car got thrown out. This is because drinking causes you to make really stupid decisions that you wouldn't otherwise make, and it usually takes experience in hindsight with how you handle your drinking to know when you need to cut yourself off for the night and also overcome whatever your inebriation is telling you is okay in the moment.

Drunk driving is not good. No qualifiers. Lots of tragedy results from it and as an adult with awareness of this, with a sound mind it should be an easy enough thing to weigh against some inconveniences with your social life on a Friday night. Bottom line, though, is that if you don't live in an area with infrastructure set up to handle everyone's safe return from nightlife to home, drunk people will make stupid impulsive decisions en masse and drive back intoxicated, because the point of alcohol is to make you irrational and impulsive.

He's a fallible human being, like we all are. His intent matters here, which he shared in vivid detail, and whether he takes responsibility and doesn't let it happen again matters more, which remains to be seen, but given the length of the OP I think he's taking it seriously. A ton of drive-by posts attacking him with holier than thou attitudes about the concept of driving drunk is obnoxious and immature and pointless in itself. Most of us probably know someone who has died or been killed by a drunk driver. He made a mistake, an unacceptable but very common one, and is owning up to it. Now he has a wake up call and a record, and fortunately no one was hurt in the process. That's a good starting point for cleaning up this mess, probably highlighting the importance of sound mental health and seeing someone to help with his anxiety issues, and to mature overall. The OP doesn't diminish his character to me. It's what happens next that matters.


Thank you based Evilore. We all have had bad moments, doesn't mean we can't learn from it and doesn't mean this guy should feel like total shit. OP, once again you are not trash you just need to work on yourself anyway you can.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Ive lost friends and family to drunk drivers and certainly feel no sympathy towards them, but I also dont feel the need to pile om the op. OP - you were lucky, dont EVER let it happen again. This shouldnt be a "first" dui, it should be your last. If you need some affirmation, count your lucky stars that you did something extremely dangerous and came out without homicide on your conscious.

The right thing to take from all this is a lesson learned. Seems you are internalizing what happened, so that's a great start.
 

caesar

Banned
Maybe move to Japan? You don't need to drive anywhere if you live even slightly close to a city; you can obviously practice your Japanese; and you can get a decent paying job teaching English while you figure out what you want to do with your life. If you have problems with depression you might need to be careful about such a big change though.

Japan won't accept you if you have a criminal record.
 

Laz-E-Boy

Member
You definitely fucked up with driving drunk, hopefully you won't do it again...but you have a whole bunch of other problems as well that need your immediate attention.

This forum is the worst to its members no community aspect at all the way some of you respond.

What a ridiculous post. It's like you completely ignored the numerous times over the years members of GAF have gone above and beyond to help someone in desperate times. I actually can't even think of many other forums where the members were as helpful as in GAF.
 

rezn0r

Member
I know GAF highly disapproves of this, but last night I got my first D.U.I.

As others have said, considering it your first DUI is pretty shitty. I don't know what state you're in (only skimmed first page - will go back and read whole thread) but the punishments for DUIs get exponentially worse. I've done side IT work for a law firm that specializes in them for a long time now, and I also had one in 2012. I'd give you advice although you left out a lot of details with the arrest, but either way make sure it's your first and LAST. Cabs and Uber are a shit ton cheaper when it comes to the monetary cost, nevermind everything else it entails. Good luck.

Ah just saw now VA & you took breathalyzers. Up here (MA) the license suspension time is way shorter especially if you consent to the test... you can probably get a hardship license which may help a little bit. Again best of luck.
 
- don't have a designated driver that "drinks only a bit". You drink, you do not drive

This is the big one. Before you guys even got to the bar you were both planning on drinking, which is a big red flag and is how many DUIs get started. Don't start off making poor decisions even before you begin drinking. Even though the plans changed twice once you got there, there was no reason for you both to be drinking and one to be the DD.

At any rate, this probably goes without saying, but don't speak to your coworker's GF ever again. She sounds like an asshole, ditching you, having you buy her drinks, ditching you AGAIN, this time while you were clearly drunk and having you fend off for yourself. She sounds like a real piece of work. Take this as a learning experience and don't give in other people like that.
 

Weevilone

Member
FFS, no one is saying it's okay to drive drunk. Since when is trying to understand WHY someone took an action the same as condoning said action?

More and more on the internet, if you aren't attacking the OP or issue then you are automatically part of the "defense force". There is no gray area or middle ground. No discussing legal issues, cause and effect, prevention strategies, etc.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
Yeah, that's a felony. OP is going to have to make his resume spectacular to compensate for that blemish on his record. Or just stay with his current company for a long time
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I'm at the point in life where I don't get drunk unless someone else has my keys. Fuck that... I got lucky once and that was enough to let me know that this shit is way too flimsy to fuck around with.
 
I am not sure what the point of dogpiling the OP is. He's clearly contrite, unless I missed a later post.

Yeah, that's a felony. OP is going to have to make his resume spectacular to compensate for that blemish on his record. Or just stay with his current company for a long time

Not with a good lawyer.
 

commedieu

Banned
You can bounce back from a DUI. I mean, Look at me! Just, never, ever, allow it to happen again. Its always our choice. As others have said, you're lucky no one was hurt. Not much else you can do but learn from this.

Don't be the dude with multiple DUI's.... I don't understand those people.. but I assume its just pure alcoholism...at that point.. How they afford insurance?
 

Jito

Banned
I am not sure what the point of dogpiling the OP is. He's clearly contrite, unless I missed a later post.



Not with a good lawyer.

I dunno, a lot of the OP is him reasoning why he did this and that to end up driving his car home, and even when in prison just sitting there and crying instead of ringing his parents. But it's ok, he's sorry now!
 
I dunno, a lot of the OP is him reasoning why he did this and that to end up driving his car home, and even when in prison just sitting there and crying instead of ringing his parents. But it's ok, he's sorry now!

My god, he's just telling the story man. You guys are always looking for ways to psychoanalyze people.
 
Yeah, that's a felony. OP is going to have to make his resume spectacular to compensate for that blemish on his record. Or just stay with his current company for a long time

First DUI is a misdemeanor in most, if not all states.

Some prospective employers might give him some shit, but most won't care.
 

Qblivion

Member
Maybe move to Japan?

I hate when people just say "move to another country" like its nothing. unless you have a highly desirable skill and experience that a company is willing to go through all the immigration hoops to sponsor you instead of just hiring a native, no one is moving anywhere.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
He was drunk and panicking, that's why he didn't realize his options were as simple as getting a cab or sobering up by sleeping in his car etc. He made a mistake due to very poor judgement. If he were thinking with a clear mind obviously he would've not put people in danger by driving while drunk.

actually a good point. I guess if you're drunk in the first place you aren't thinking straight. Best to never take your car in the first place unless you are the DD.
 
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