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iNvid02

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handy tip i learned today, dunno if its widely known but i like to run itunes off an external drive, saves the hassle when i format windows and i can take my music with me.

even though the music can be stored on the drive itunes still keeps the library and xml files which hold all your ratings and playlists on your OS drive in username/my music/itunes.

if you hold SHIFT and open itunes it prompts you for a library, you can choose one or create a new one. just move the itunes folder with the library and xml files onto the external drive where all your music is and choose that.

now your itunes music is truly portable.
 

Kraut

Member
iNvidious01 said:
handy tip i learned today, dunno if its widely known but i like to run itunes off an external drive, saves the hassle when i format windows and i can take my music with me.

even though the music can be stored on the drive itunes still keeps the library and xml files which hold all your ratings and playlists on your OS drive in username/my music/itunes.

if you hold SHIFT and open itunes it prompts you for a library, you can choose one or create a new one. just move the itunes folder with the library and xml files onto the external drive where all your music is and choose that.

now your itunes music is truly portable.

Holy shit, thank you good sir. I've only kept chunks of my library on my external, but when the time comes to reformat I'll definitely use this.
 
iNvidious01 said:
handy tip i learned today, dunno if its widely known but i like to run itunes off an external drive, saves the hassle when i format windows and i can take my music with me.

even though the music can be stored on the drive itunes still keeps the library and xml files which hold all your ratings and playlists on your OS drive in username/my music/itunes.

if you hold SHIFT and open itunes it prompts you for a library, you can choose one or create a new one. just move the itunes folder with the library and xml files onto the external drive where all your music is and choose that.

now your itunes music is truly portable.

sweet, thanks. Thats easier than manually editing the new xml file like i've done in the past
 

mkenyon

Banned
Palette Swap said:
I'm seeing a 2GB version of the Gainward GTX 560 Ti, is there any point to the 2GB considering I don't intend to go beyond 1920x1080?

Yep, newer games coming out will most likely use more than 1GB of VRAM.
 
Corky said:
Guys I need spiritual guidance.

Guess I'll get the formalities out of the way :

Basic Desktop Questions
Your Current Specs: i5-760@3.8 / 4gb ddr3 / ga-p55-ud4 / ga gtx 460 SLI OC (selling this pc as soon as one of my 460 replacements arrives )
Budget: 2200$
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: everything
Are reusing any parts?: No
When will you build?: Within the coming 5 months.
Will you be overclocking? Definitely


So here's the thing, we all know that late Q3-Q4 is going to be absolutely bonkers when it comes to gaming. Now I have nothing against waiting for the next build but is there any point to it? People are saying that there's not going to be any new stuff out there until a looong time.

Will there be anything new out come august-september 2011? ( I know it's not easy to answer but still... )


whatever you do corky, don't quit on PC gaming yet. I know you've had problems but....
I'd wait for the fall to do a build. say sept-oct.
 

mkenyon

Banned
For those of you (like myself) who have missed this thread, check it out. That's a huge reason to go AMD right now over comparable Nvidia cards.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
mkenyon said:
For those of you (like myself) who have missed this thread, check it out. That's a huge reason to go AMD right now over comparable Nvidia cards.
I've more successes than fails so it's looking ok so far.
 
mkenyon said:
Nope. However, I think you're building it up in your head as to how much effort it will be. Back up all of your media/transferable stuff to an external HDD, download all the newest drivers for your laptop and put them on the same external drive or a flash drive. Doing a fresh install won't take you any more than a single night if you have those other two things in place.
It's a development laptop which contains about 8 different IDEs, three different database suites, 2 different web servers and 2 different mail servers... all of which are an utter pigbitch to get onto the same machine without interfering with each other.

Trust me, I'm not overstating the amount of time it'll take to get the thing back online. :D

It's really not worth the time to me unless I can just ghost it and tweak some settings. I'm self employed and I just can't afford to give up that sort of time just to get some slightly faster loading.
 

mkenyon

Banned
I'm sorry that I trivialized your circumstances, I was obviously way off.

Sounds like someone needs a Linux based RAID 5 server for backups!
 
Amusingly enough, my server (RAID 10, for what it's worth) is even more complicated, but I don't need to carry that to meetings with me. :)
 

Wrekt

Member
mkenyon said:
For those of you (like myself) who have missed this thread, check it out. That's a huge reason to go AMD right now over comparable Nvidia cards.
In the next couple days I was going to pull the trigger on a 560 GTX. I may go 6950 now. Thanks.
 

Mattdaddy

Gold Member
Quick rookie question...

I just got a Phenom II X4 955. I installed it and everything seems to be working fine... but I've seen some people talking about "unlocking extra cores through BIOS" or "core unlocking". What is this? Do I need to do this to get the full potential of my 955 or is it good to go? This is the first time I have built a system myself and I'm still learning all the ropes.

AMD Phenom II X4 955
BioStar A880GU3 MB
Windows 7 64
8GB GSkill Ripjaw
MSI GTX 560 Ti
 

Ecto311

Member
Anyone have experience with a corsair 60gig force series SSD? Is $104 a decent price?

I just built a sandy bridge system (i5-2500k and p8p67 MB) and looking for a faster boot / few games drive.

Amazon is showing the 40 and 60gb ssd for the same price.

I also found a corsair nova 32gb for $45 refurb at microcenter. Can't decide what one would be the better price/performance for just a boot drive - maybe a few games.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Mattdaddy said:
Ok just wanted to make sure. Thanks!

To clarify on that a bit, the phenom X2s and X3s (dual and triple cores) are actually quad cores where maybe one of the cores were defective, or they just locked them to meet demand for a triple or dual core proc. Unlocking them means you can get a dual core 555 and possibly unlock it to a triple or quad core processor.

It doesn't work on the quad cores, because the architecture is for a quad core processor. All of the cores are already unlocked.
 
How is the heat and sound comparison between an 8800GT and HD 6950? Is HD6950 run hot and noisy?

Do video cards keep getting hotter and noisier as new ones come out?
 
Are there ANY 27" 3D monitors on the horizon? All I can find is a weird looking Asus model that is set to come out "sometime near the end of this year"

http://www.techscreens.com/asus-coming-up-with-the-vg236h-and-pg276h-3d-ready-monitors.html

Asus has been giving us the run around on 27" 3D monitors for about a year it seems. I keep googling it and finding these year old announcements with pictures and the whole shebang showing off their imminent release of a 27" 3D display. 23"ish seems to be the only ones available right now and that makes me sad.
 

Curufinwe

Member
momolicious said:
How is the heat and sound comparison between an 8800GT and HD 6950? Is HD6950 run hot and noisy?

Do video cards keep getting hotter and noisier as new ones come out?

Yes and no. My new 768 460 GTX is smaller, cooler, quieter and faster than the 320 MB 8800 GTS it replaced.

Someone who had an 8800 GTX might want to compare it to the HD 6950.
 
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 2Win
http://www.evga.com/articles/00613/
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=02G-P3-1387-AR

02G-P3-1387-AR_LG_1.jpg

chart.jpg
 

TheExodu5

Banned
If it's priced appropriately...that could actually be a decent product.

I mean, I'd still go single card solution to avoid any possible SLI headaches...but for performance/$, that would probably be hard to beat.

The decent cooler makes it an attractive option.
 
MisterAnderson said:
Are there ANY 27" 3D monitors on the horizon? All I can find is a weird looking Asus model that is set to come out "sometime near the end of this year"

http://www.techscreens.com/asus-coming-up-with-the-vg236h-and-pg276h-3d-ready-monitors.html

Asus has been giving us the run around on 27" 3D monitors for about a year it seems. I keep googling it and finding these year old announcements with pictures and the whole shebang showing off their imminent release of a 27" 3D display. 23"ish seems to be the only ones available right now and that makes me sad.

I've been in the same predicament but I just want a 120hz monitor. No 27" 120hz monitors in sight.
 
The longer it's taken for the 6990, 590, and custom 40nm dual-chip cards to come out, the more pointless they've become.


TheExodu5 said:
If it's priced appropriately...that could actually be a decent product.

I mean, I'd still go single card solution to avoid any possible SLI headaches...but for performance/$, that would probably be hard to beat.

The decent cooler makes it an attractive option.
I'm expecting $390-450. Just want to see actual numbers, because I don't trust EVGA's graphs anymore than I trust the nonsense that NVidia and AMD put out. There's still the issue with bandwidth, too.

Out of all the dual-chip GTX 400/500 prototypes, I'm surprised that this is the only (?) one that's made it to wide production.
 
Yeah I think I might bite the bullet and just get the 23" 120hz Asus. Seems like a good monitor. Anyone have any impressions?

And regarding the EVGA GTX 460 2win, thats just a dual GPU single card like the 6990 but with 460's? So it basically performs the same as sli 460's? Do you guys think I'd be better off with a GTX 580 or that?

BigBlackGamer said:
I've been in the same predicament but I just want a 120hz monitor. No 27" 120hz monitors in sight.

I just want a 120hz 27" monitor too. 120hz basically means it is 3D capable. And yeah... none seem to be around the corner :/
 

Dynamic3

Member
Quick theoretical question:

If I have only one fan and plug it into sys fan 2. Will it show in the BIOS as sys fan 2 or sys fan 1?
 

InertiaXr

Member
http://i.imgur.com/XkWgH.jpg

Can anybody tell me what's going on here? I went to Microcenter today to get a IDE /SATA to USB cable thing for my girlfriend's moms' old old computer with an IDE drive she wants the data off of. If I connect it however, it will sit and have that green bar slowly fill behind the file location (that's W7 indexing I believe) and will never actually finish so I can open the drive and get what I want off it. The drive may just be shot I'm not sure but I can obviously see it under My Computer so I'm hopeful I can get what I want off it...
 

Schlep

Member
Your Current Specs: 2ghz Core Duo / 2GB DDR2 667 / Radeon x1600 256MB (MacBook Pro 2006)
Budget: <$1300 + US
Main Use: Light Gaming, general usage (Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 & 1920x1080 (general use), 1650x1080 (gaming)
List SPECIFIC games Diablo 3, Witcher 2, Battlefield 3
Are reusing any parts?: A 250GB HDD (7200 rpm) for a Windows install in a couple months
When will you build?: As soon as the ASUS mobo shows up at newegg or Amazon
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe eventually. Definitely not at the moment.

Hey guys, just looking for a few thoughts on what, if anything, I should change in the parts I picked out. My MacBook Pro is becoming frustrating to use due to web videos and general slowness. This is even after forcing sites like YouTube into HTML5 on all vids. My main goal is to have a decently powerful rig that doesn't draw too many watts for general use and is as quiet as possible. Also it should have a small footprint so I can put it behind my monitor on the desk. I'm willing to give up a little on the quiet/power consumption side in order to have a decent gaming rig.

I'll be running Ubuntu 10.10 on the machine when not in game. For gaming, I'll either be re-using a 250GB drive from my last machine or picking up another SSD if a deal pops up.

SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
SILVERSTONE Strider Plus ST50F-P 500W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Silverstone Short Cable Set For Silverstone Strider Series Modular PSU Model PP05
ASUS P8P67-M PRO Micro ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
TP-LINK TL-WN781ND PCI Express Wireless Adapter

Total: $1,237.74 (currently)
 

InertiaXr

Member
Schlep said:
Your Current Specs: 2ghz Core Duo / 2GB DDR2 667 / Radeon x1600 256MB (MacBook Pro 2006)
Budget: <$1300 + US
Main Use: Light Gaming, general usage (Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 & 1920x1080 (general use), 1650x1080 (gaming)
List SPECIFIC games Diablo 3, Witcher 2, Battlefield 3
Are reusing any parts?: A 250GB HDD (7200 rpm) for a Windows install in a couple months
When will you build?: As soon as the ASUS mobo shows up at newegg or Amazon
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe eventually. Definitely not at the moment.

Hey guys, just looking for a few thoughts on what, if anything, I should change in the parts I picked out. My MacBook Pro is becoming frustrating to use due to web videos and general slowness. This is even after forcing sites like YouTube into HTML5 on all vids. My main goal is to have a decently powerful rig that doesn't draw too many watts for general use and is as quiet as possible. Also it should have a small footprint so I can put it behind my monitor on the desk. I'm willing to give up a little on the quiet/power consumption side in order to have a decent gaming rig.

I'll be running Ubuntu 10.10 on the machine when not in game. For gaming, I'll either be re-using a 250GB drive from my last machine or picking up another SSD if a deal pops up.

SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
SILVERSTONE Strider Plus ST50F-P 500W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Silverstone Short Cable Set For Silverstone Strider Series Modular PSU Model PP05
ASUS P8P67-M PRO Micro ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
TP-LINK TL-WN781ND PCI Express Wireless Adapter

Total: $1,237.74 (currently)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650tx
I'd recommend this PSU instead, Corsair very high quality and same price for 150W more as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=212+-_-35-103-065-_-Product
Recommend this CPU cooler instead, it works marvelously for me with my 2500k. 30-32c idle and 45-50c under load at 4.5ghz without the fan getting any noticeably louder.

8GB ram is nearly always overkill, if all your doing is 'Light Gaming, general usage' then 4GB will be more than enough. I have same vid card and it performs wonderfully for me at 1680x1050, and overclocks very very well.
 

Schlep

Member
InertiaXr said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650tx
I'd recommend this PSU instead, Corsair very high quality and same price for 150W more as well.
Problem is that PSU isn't modular. I'll be in tight quarters in that case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=212+-_-35-103-065-_-Product
Recommend this CPU cooler instead, it works marvelously for me with my 2500k. 30-32c idle and 45-50c under load at 4.5ghz without the fan getting any noticeably louder.
Can you use the heatsink passively? If so, what are the temps then? I don't want to add another fan to the case if at all possible.

8GB ram is nearly always overkill, if all your doing is 'Light Gaming, general usage' then 4GB will be more than enough.
Yeah, but at this point I figure why not. I wouldn't pay an extra $200 for RAM, but at $30-40 it's no big deal. :)

I have same vid card and it performs wonderfully for me at 1680x1050, and overclocks very very well.
Nice. How's the noise level on it?
 

InertiaXr

Member
Schlep said:
Can you use the heatsink passively? If so, what are the temps then? I don't want to add another fan to the case if at all possible.

What do you mean? I only use the stock fan that came with my 212+ and that Corsair cooler you picked out will be using 1 fan as well. It's nearly silent and I've never had it really going hard as 50c under load is fine by me. It may be different kind of air flow in a micro case like that, I have a mid (CM 690 Advanced II) and everything stays really chilly.

Schlep said:
Yeah, but at this point I figure why not. I wouldn't pay an extra $200 for RAM, but at $30-40 it's no big deal. :)

Fair enough. RAM prices are pretty low it couldn't really hurt to go up to 8gb.

Schlep said:
Nice. How's the noise level on it?

Excellent, at 60% fan aka full load for me I barely here it about 2 feet from me on top of my desk, and that's OCed from stock 725/1450/3600 to 825/1650/4200. Maxes everything for me at locked 60fps besides some hiccups in Crysis 1.
 

Schlep

Member
InertiaXr said:
What do you mean? I only use the stock fan that came with my 212+ and that Corsair cooler you picked out will be using 1 fan as well. It's nearly silent and I've never had it really going hard as 50c under load is fine by me. It may be different kind of air flow in a micro case like that, I have a mid (CM 690 Advanced II) and everything stays really chilly.
Sorry about that, I'm braindead tonight, lol.
 

Knch

Member
Ecto311 said:
Anyone have experience with a corsair 60gig force series SSD? Is $104 a decent price?

Amazon is showing the 40 and 60gb ssd for the same price.

I also found a corsair nova 32gb for $45 refurb at microcenter. Can't decide what one would be the better price/performance for just a boot drive - maybe a few games.
I have two force 120s in a RAID 0 setup, can't complain about them...

According to anandtech, the force series is the better one: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/196?vs=150

Just make sure to enable NCQ to get the maximum performance out of the drive (boosts the random read performance quite a bit)
 

verbum

Member
Schlep said:
Your Current Specs: 2ghz Core Duo / 2GB DDR2 667 / Radeon x1600 256MB (MacBook Pro 2006)
Budget: <$1300 + US
Main Use: Light Gaming, general usage (Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 & 1920x1080 (general use), 1650x1080 (gaming)
List SPECIFIC games Diablo 3, Witcher 2, Battlefield 3
Are reusing any parts?: A 250GB HDD (7200 rpm) for a Windows install in a couple months
When will you build?: As soon as the ASUS mobo shows up at newegg or Amazon
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe eventually. Definitely not at the moment.

Hey guys, just looking for a few thoughts on what, if anything, I should change in the parts I picked out. My MacBook Pro is becoming frustrating to use due to web videos and general slowness. This is even after forcing sites like YouTube into HTML5 on all vids. My main goal is to have a decently powerful rig that doesn't draw too many watts for general use and is as quiet as possible. Also it should have a small footprint so I can put it behind my monitor on the desk. I'm willing to give up a little on the quiet/power consumption side in order to have a decent gaming rig.

I'll be running Ubuntu 10.10 on the machine when not in game. For gaming, I'll either be re-using a 250GB drive from my last machine or picking up another SSD if a deal pops up.

SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
SILVERSTONE Strider Plus ST50F-P 500W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Silverstone Short Cable Set For Silverstone Strider Series Modular PSU Model PP05
ASUS P8P67-M PRO Micro ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
TP-LINK TL-WN781ND PCI Express Wireless Adapter

Total: $1,237.74 (currently)

Newegg has some OCZ Vertex drives on sale today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL031111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL031111-_-EMC-031111-Index-_-SSD-_-20227550-L013A

I have a 90GB SSD. Installed Win7 Pro 64 bit and have used it for a week. I moved some user folders off the drive and moved some system files off the disk. Right now I am using 30.3GB of the drive.
 
pseudocaesar said:
Just wanted to get some final advice/criticism on these parts before i take the plunge and order them. I just want to ensure compatibility more than anything.
 

verbum

Member
pseudocaesar said:
Just wanted to get some final advice/criticism on these parts before i take the plunge and order them. I just want to ensure compatibility more than anything.

SilentPC recommends the Cooler Master Silent Pro PSU:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_PSUs

A bit more expensive but I find the quieter my PC is, the happier I am. It has flat modular cables as well so you can have better airflow and looks. The 600W is $115 on that site. 600W should be enough for your rig.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_220&products_id=8920
 

TheExodu5

Banned
MisterAnderson said:
Yeah I think I might bite the bullet and just get the 23" 120hz Asus. Seems like a good monitor. Anyone have any impressions?

And regarding the EVGA GTX 460 2win, thats just a dual GPU single card like the 6990 but with 460's? So it basically performs the same as sli 460's? Do you guys think I'd be better off with a GTX 580 or that?

I'd still got GTX 580 or 2x GTX 560 2GB.
 

Wrekt

Member
InertiaXr said:
http://i.imgur.com/XkWgH.jpg

Can anybody tell me what's going on here? I went to Microcenter today to get a IDE /SATA to USB cable thing for my girlfriend's moms' old old computer with an IDE drive she wants the data off of. If I connect it however, it will sit and have that green bar slowly fill behind the file location (that's W7 indexing I believe) and will never actually finish so I can open the drive and get what I want off it. The drive may just be shot I'm not sure but I can obviously see it under My Computer so I'm hopeful I can get what I want off it...
Do you hear a clicking or grinding noise coming from the drive? Those symptoms are in line with hard drive failure. If it is connected via a usb adapter outside of your case, try sitting the drive in a different position, turn it upside down, etc. If that fails, you can try freezing it.
 

Wrekt

Member
Wrekt said:
In the next couple days I was going to pull the trigger on a 560 GTX. I may go 6950 now. Thanks.
Newegg dropped another $20 off of the 6950 2gb I had my eye on. I figure it's a sign so I picked one up. My first ever ATI card. Now the only thing I'm missing is my damn p67 board.

I also picked up a 120gb Vertex 2 that they also had on sale. It's been an expensive morning.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
nib95 said:
Any reviews on this thing? And what's the power draw, noise and heat compared to the GTX 580?

It's probably going to be equivalent to SLI 460. Just look up a review for that.

Again, the only real reason to go with a setup like this is if you can't manage PCI-E slots. After that, the only reason to go with the 460 x2 is to save a few bucks over a GTX 580.

If it's priced appropriately (~$350), it could be worthwhile. Any higher though, and I'd just spend the extra for the GTX 580, or get a 570/6970.

Power draw should be the same as 2x GTX 460, so probably around 260-300W (same as GTX 580).

What's nice here is the fact that they seem to have used a decent aftermarket cooler. It could be quieter than a GTX 580, which gives it even more validity.
 

InertiaXr

Member
Wrekt said:
Do you hear a clicking or grinding noise coming from the drive? Those symptoms are in line with hard drive failure. If it is connected via a usb adapter outside of your case, try sitting the drive in a different position, turn it upside down, etc. If that fails, you can try freezing it.

Thanks, I knew it might just be a dead drive but it doesn't really click at all just normal whirl of a drive spinning around. Yea it's outside my case I'll move it around on my desk see what I can get out of it. I've heard of freezing drives before but never had to do it, might be just the time.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
I'm moving into a new apartment soon and I wanna make it this classy place. Thinking of doing a new build too and go for a more expensive tower case. So Lian Li was my first thought. I came up with the Lian Li PC-A71F

tnDR6.jpg


Costs around 200 euros. Anyone with experience on these cases? Only thing that puts me off is that it's a bit old. I heard cases released after 2009 have better (internal) design. Other than that I have no idea about these things other than that their aluminium
 

verbum

Member
Teetris said:
I'm moving into a new apartment soon and I wanna make it this classy place. Thinking of doing a new build too and go for a more expensive tower case. So Lian Li was my first thought. I came up with the Lian Li PC-A71F

tnDR6.jpg


Costs around 200 euros. Anyone with experience on these cases? Only thing that puts me off is that it's a bit old. I heard cases released after 2009 have better (internal) design. Other than that I have no idea about these things other than that their aluminium

If you need room for 10 hard drives it is a good case. The power supply mounts in the bottom and the tool-ess drive mounts are both nice features. I looked at this one but went with an Antec 300 since it was one third the cost and I only use 3 drives. It is plain black as well.
 

Mudkips

Banned
iNvidious01 said:
handy tip i learned today, dunno if its widely known but i like to run itunes off an external drive, saves the hassle when i format windows and i can take my music with me.

even though the music can be stored on the drive itunes still keeps the library and xml files which hold all your ratings and playlists on your OS drive in username/my music/itunes.

if you hold SHIFT and open itunes it prompts you for a library, you can choose one or create a new one. just move the itunes folder with the library and xml files onto the external drive where all your music is and choose that.

now your itunes music is truly portable.

I don't use iTunes, but this will be of use when I help others with shit.
 
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