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Zimbardo

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i use a wired xbox360 pad and really like it. lots of games also have native support for it where you see the x,y,b,a,etc button prompts on the screen.
 

Merovin

Member
I'm going to be straight with you GAF, I'm not that great with my computer hardware knowledge. I'm looking to upgrade/build a new machine, but I've never done this myself before. Here's what I'm currently looking at;

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
4096MB RAM DDR2 (333MHz) (4 sticks of 1GB)
ATI Radeon HD 4870 GDDR5 1 GB

Budget: £500 - £1000 approx, can go more if needed, but would like to avoid if possible. (UK)

My main uses will be gaming, Battlefield 3 is definitely one that needs to run, I'd also like to get into emulation more, 1080p playback and some light 3d work/video editing. I'm also curious about 3D gaming as well, as I've heard some good things.

I plan to get a new monitor at some point as well, currently looking at 1680 * 1050, but will most likely be getting something along the lines of 1920 * 1080.

Battlefield 3/Skyrim are the current main games I want to run on release, but I want to be able to run a wide variety of games really well, as I'm becoming more and more of a PC gamer. I'm probably going to jump on The Old Republic as well. Currently playing Just Cause 2 and going to do a play through of Mass Effect 1 and 2.

Will reuse anything that can be reused from my current machine as listed above, but not to sure if there will be much there as it was built about 4/5 years ago now (can't remember exactly lol).

I want to have it done by November, I know that's still a while a way, but I want to make sure I do this right. Probably not going to overclock, though obviously I am open to the idea, I'm just somewhat nervous and honestly have no idea what I'm doing. I'm having a browse round now to see if I can find anything that might be good, apologies I have listed anything to start from, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
Just ordered a backplate and high-flow bracket for my evga GTX 580.
I've been meaning to do it for a while, now it's finally gonna happen.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Smokey said:
I am torn:

Dell Ultrasharp 24'' - $500

or

Asus VG236H w/ Nvidia 3d kit - $500


halp

Depends on your priorities.

The Ultrasharp will have great colors, while the Asus will be super responsive and allow for 3D gaming.
 

bananaman1234

Unconfirmed Member
So I built my computer last night and only had trouble setting up the dvd and hard drives. I don't really understand what master/slave is so I just connected them to via SATA. Everything works fine but I was just wondering if I was missing something important?
 
isoku said:
So I built my computer last night and only had trouble setting up the dvd and hard drives. I don't really understand what master/slave is so I just connected them to via SATA. Everything works fine but I was just wondering if I was missing something important?
That only matter if your going PATA.
 

scogoth

Member
celcius said:
Just ordered a backplate and high-flow bracket for my evga GTX 580.
I've been meaning to do it for a while, now it's finally gonna happen.

Its amazing how much difference a bracket makes and the backplate just looks cool.
 

urge26

Member
Any thoughts on this build?

I want a (somewhat) portable rig to play higher end games at max settings (Battlefield 3, Crysis 2) on one monitor. No need for storage since I have a NAS, or optical media since it's going to be Steam only:

CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K - 190 - Microcenter
Motherboard - Asus P8P67-M Pro - 150 - Amazon
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 - 64 - Newegg (already purchased)
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 1GB Xtreme x2 Crossfire - 280 - Newegg
SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 120GB - 180 - Newegg
Case - Thermaltake Lanbox Lite VF6000BWS MicroATX/ITX Gaming Cube - 90 - Amazon
PSU - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 600W - 80 - Newegg
Cooler - CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler - 47 - Newegg (already purchased)

Total: 1081.00 after tax, shipping, rebates and discounts.



Would appreciate any feedback on how I could improve it, what won't work, etc. (not the fact that the GPU isn't the latest and greatest). Should I wait on the 6950's unlocked to the 6970's to drop in price? I'm in no hurry, I can wait till fall.
 

bananaman1234

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I have a question about air flow. I have my PSU set up so it's blowing air towards the mobo. My radeon hd 6850 is in the pci-e slot closest to the PSU so the PSU is literally blowing air directly into the gpu. Is this the optimum setup? The fan on the gpu sucks in air but where exactly does it blow it out?
 

scogoth

Member
isoku said:
I have a question about air flow. I have my PSU set up so it's blowing air towards the mobo. My radeon hd 6850 is in the pci-e slot closest to the PSU so the PSU is literally blowing air directly into the gpu. Is this the optimum setup? The fan on the gpu sucks in air but where exactly does it blow it out?

Your PSU can't be configured to blow air into the case. Its drawing air in from the case and blowing it out. The GPU blows the air out of the back of the case and it should be mounted in the PCI-e slot closest to the CPU to get 16x speeds.
 

spicy cho

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Depends on your priorities.

The Ultrasharp will have great colors, while the Asus will be super responsive and allow for 3D gaming.
I'd go with the Dell as long as there is little to no input lag. But I think 3d is a fad, and it makes me nauseous so I'm quite biased in that regard.
 

scogoth

Member
spicy cho said:
I'd go with the Dell as long as there is little to no input lag. But I think 3d is a fad, and it makes me nauseous so I'm quite biased in that regard.

All IPS displays will have some input lag, its the nature of the beast. The colours will be amazing though.
 
isoku said:
I have a question about air flow. I have my PSU set up so it's blowing air towards the mobo. My radeon hd 6850 is in the pci-e slot closest to the PSU so the PSU is literally blowing air directly into the gpu. Is this the optimum setup? The fan on the gpu sucks in air but where exactly does it blow it out?

Pretty much its drawing in hot air, which will likely hurt your PSU in the long run, but its the way I have it set up.
 

knitoe

Member
isoku said:
I have a question about air flow. I have my PSU set up so it's blowing air towards the mobo. My radeon hd 6850 is in the pci-e slot closest to the PSU so the PSU is literally blowing air directly into the gpu. Is this the optimum setup? The fan on the gpu sucks in air but where exactly does it blow it out?
PSU fan(s) are set to suck air to the back of the PSU. The fan should be facing down toward the floor. If PSU is at bottom of the case, it's pulling fresh cool air from underneath the case. If top, it's pulling floating up hot air, from cpu, gpu and etc., to outside back of case.
 

scogoth

Member
knitoe said:
PSU fan(s) are set to suck air to the back of the PSU. The fan should be facing down toward the floor. If PSU is at bottom of the case, it's pulling fresh cool air from underneath the case***. If top, it's pulling floating up hot air, from cpu, gpu and etc., to outside back of case.

*** if you have a case with vents in the bottom. Otherwise the PSU fan pulls air down and out the back.
 

bananaman1234

Unconfirmed Member
Huh. I thought for sure is was blowing towards the mobo. I guess I may have it upside down. It's a CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W situated at the bottom with the fan facing the ceiling. I'll have to take a look again once I get home. Thanks for the tips.
 

knitoe

Member
scogoth said:
*** if you have a case with vents in the bottom. Otherwise the PSU fan pulls air down and out the back.
Case with PSU on the bottom should have bottom vents there otherwise it's a bad design. You want hot air to circulate up and be pull out by top fans.
 

scogoth

Member
knitoe said:
Case with PSU on the bottom should have bottom vents there otherwise it's a bad design.

Antec 900 v2. Not a terrible case, I put it above average. Lots of airflow other then the lack of bottom fans.
 

Ultrabum

Member
Ok gaf, I have a 2500k overclocked to 4 GHz and a ATI 6850 from gigabyte. Obviously my videocard is the bottleneck on most games. My question is: would it be better to crossfire another 6850(my MoBo supports it) or should I just get a new card all together? Price is a concern. Also, is crossfire very game dependent? (i.e. some games will benefit and others wont?)

Thanks!
 
Is there any way for my wireless controller with a play and charge kit to play off of the computer? My initial guess is no but please feel free to confirm or deny my guess.
 

Ultrabum

Member
Misanthropy said:
Is there any way for my wireless controller with a play and charge kit to play off of the computer? My initial guess is no but please feel free to confirm or deny my guess.

The short answer is no. If you buy the wireless dongle you can use it... but you have to still buy something.
If I'm wrong, please tell me because I would love to do this as well lol.
 

scogoth

Member
Ultrabum said:
Ok gaf, I have a 2500k overclocked to 4 GHz and a ATI 6850 from gigabyte. Obviously my videocard is the bottleneck on most games. My question is: would it be better to crossfire another 6850(my MoBo supports it) or should I just get a new card all together? Price is a concern. Also, is crossfire very game dependent? (i.e. some games will benefit and others wont?)

Thanks!

6850 is a very capable card, what games do you find its lacking?
 

Ultrabum

Member
scogoth said:
6850 is a very capable card, what games do you find its lacking?

Overall I am very happy with it! However, when I play stuff like Metro 2033 it has a lot of slowdown during explosions and high action parts, even on only high settings and 1440 x 900. Same thing with Just Cause 2. I haven't overclocked it (well I had it overclocked, but I had a bunch of crashing issues which I now think weren't due to the overclock, but I left it at default settings anyways). Perhaps I should go back and overclock it again?
 

knitoe

Member
Ultrabum said:
Ok gaf, I have a 2500k overclocked to 4 GHz and a ATI 6850 from gigabyte. Obviously my videocard is the bottleneck on most games. My question is: would it be better to crossfire another 6850(my MoBo supports it) or should I just get a new card all together? Price is a concern. Also, is crossfire very game dependent? (i.e. some games will benefit and others wont?)

Thanks!
Crossfire 6850 will be faster than a 6970. On my 6970 & 6950 CF, games I have tried all run better.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
Ultrabum said:
Ok gaf, I have a 2500k overclocked to 4 GHz and a ATI 6850 from gigabyte. Obviously my videocard is the bottleneck on most games. My question is: would it be better to crossfire another 6850(my MoBo supports it) or should I just get a new card all together? Price is a concern. Also, is crossfire very game dependent? (i.e. some games will benefit and others wont?)

Thanks!
I just ordered the exact same setup as you. I am planning on running with 1 6850 until the holiday season, when I will pick up another one to xfire for BF3. Check out some 6850 xfire benchmarks. It's scales extremely well in a lot of games (sometimes over 100%) and chances are most newer games with take full advantage of it.
 

Smokey

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Depends on your priorities.

The Ultrasharp will have great colors, while the Asus will be super responsive and allow for 3D gaming.
Yeah after sleeping on it I think I'm going to go with the asus 120hz monitor. Should hopefully be ordering the monitor and rest of parts today (8gb RAM, dvd drive, asus gtx 580, win 7 , 2tb drive, Intel 320 ssd). Comes out to about 1500 for all of that.

So final specs for my machine :

Silverstone ft02
Asus p87 mobo
Core I7-2600k
Corsair H70
Corsair 8GB Ram
ASUS GTX 580
Corsair AX 850 PSU
DVD drive
Samsung f4 2tb
Intel 300 series 120gb
Win 7
Razer death adder mouse
Razer mechanical gaming keyboard
Asus 23" 120hz w/ 3d kit

So my total machine looks to come out around $2500-2600ish


Think I'm all set here . I'm nervous!!!
 

Ultrabum

Member
Nafai1123 said:
I just ordered the exact same setup as you. I am planning on running with 1 6850 until the holiday season, when I will pick up another one to xfire for BF3. Check out some 6850 xfire benchmarks. It's scales extremely well in a lot of games (sometimes over 100%) and chances are most newer games with take full advantage of it.

Got any links to benchmarks??? I don't really know what a good trustworthy source for that kind of thing is. I mean, it seems like they would all be bias towards one of the big companies.
 

Zeliard

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Depends on your priorities.

The Ultrasharp will have great colors, while the Asus will be super responsive and allow for 3D gaming.

Ah, the day when these won't be mutually exclusive. :p
 

scogoth

Member
L0st Id3ntity said:
Help. I couldn't find a concrete answer online.

No you won't, just go into the nvidia control panel and check SLI on.


Smokey said:
Yeah after sleeping on it I think I'm going to go with the asus 120hz monitor. Should hopefully be ordering the monitor and rest of parts today (8gb RAM, dvd drive, asus gtx 580, win 7 , 2tb drive, Intel 320 ssd). Comes out to about 1500 for all of that.

So final specs for my machine :

Silverstone ft02
Asus p87 mobo
Core I7-2600k
Corsair H70
Corsair 8GB Ram
ASUS GTX 580
Corsair AX 850 PSU
DVD drive
Samsung f4 2tb
Intel 300 series 120gb
Win 7
Razer death adder mouse
Razer mechanical gaming keyboard
Asus 23" 120hz w/ 3d kit

So my total machine looks to come out around $2500-2600ish


Think I'm all set here . I'm nervous!!!

Looks like a great build! Don't be nervous just have fun with building it. Hardest thing for newer builder is the thermal paste and I'm fairly certain the H70 has it pre applied. You're going to have a sick looking build at the end.

Have you bought the parts yet? You might want to look into a P67 Sabertooth motherboard, its about $25 more the a P6P67 Pro. Its a great board for overclocking and temps and looks fabulous in the FT02

EDIT: pics so sexy WARNING PC PORN
TUNza.jpg

v2WvZ.jpg

JCxA3.jpg

F5P5c.jpg
 

MedIC86

Member
Watercooling gaf i have a question,

I've had watercooling in the past but im thinking of building one again (just for the fun of it)

But i was wondering does anyone know how to get the color in the tubes like this?
picture1.jpg


Because when i added my UV reactive stuff it looked more like this

IMG_0735.jpg


So in short, does anyone know how to get the color effect more "subtle/waterish" do you just add les of the color and more of the distilled water or do you need something else?
 
Smokey said:
Yeah after sleeping on it I think I'm going to go with the asus 120hz monitor. Should hopefully be ordering the monitor and rest of parts today (8gb RAM, dvd drive, asus gtx 580, win 7 , 2tb drive, Intel 320 ssd). Comes out to about 1500 for all of that.

So final specs for my machine :

Silverstone ft02
Asus p87 mobo
Core I7-2600k
Corsair H70
Corsair 8GB Ram
ASUS GTX 580
Corsair AX 850 PSU
DVD drive
Samsung f4 2tb
Intel 300 series 120gb
Win 7
Razer death adder mouse
Razer mechanical gaming keyboard
Asus 23" 120hz w/ 3d kit

So my total machine looks to come out around $2500-2600ish


Think I'm all set here . I'm nervous!!!

Our builds are going to look similar with a few exceptions. $$$

I still need to buy 5 more components to have everything in my possession.
 

Smokey

Member
scogoth said:
No you won't, just go into the nvidia control panel and check SLI on.




Looks like a great build! Don't be nervous just have fun with building it. Hardest thing for newer builder is the thermal paste and I'm fairly certain the H70 has it pre applied. You're going to have a sick looking build at the end.

Have you bought the parts yet? You might want to look into a P67 Sabertooth motherboard, its about $25 more the a P6P67 Pro. Its a great board for overclocking and temps and looks fabulous in the FT02

EDIT: pics so sexy WARNING PC PORN
TUNza.jpg

v2WvZ.jpg

JCxA3.jpg

F5P5c.jpg
Only parts I'm missing are gpu, ram, ssd, hdd, dvd drive and monitor. I already have everything else. Going to order that stuff later today.
 

Citizen K

Member
scogoth said:
No you won't, just go into the nvidia control panel and check SLI on.




Looks like a great build! Don't be nervous just have fun with building it. Hardest thing for newer builder is the thermal paste and I'm fairly certain the H70 has it pre applied. You're going to have a sick looking build at the end.

Have you bought the parts yet? You might want to look into a P67 Sabertooth motherboard, its about $25 more the a P6P67 Pro. Its a great board for overclocking and temps and looks fabulous in the FT02

EDIT: pics so sexy WARNING PC PORN
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What case is that?!
 
So I am going to go for the Damn Capable build from the OP and just wanted to run by a few questions. Keeping my budget with that build at 600 bucks and was going to go with the Cooler Master CM 690 II Advance case. Going to be using it for mainly for gaming, planning on playing StarCraft 2, Team Fortress 2, and other various titles. I don't expect to max out the graphics on everything but just wanted to know what I could run and cannot run with this setup. I'm not a huge pc guru or anything so I would appreciate the input :).
 

Smokey

Member
Also I know gaf says no but I really want DAT gtx 590. I think it'd help in games in general and in 3d performance. Only $200 more or so over the gtx580 I have in my build...
 

scogoth

Member
InfectedZero said:
So I am going to go for the Damn Capable build from the OP and just wanted to run by a few questions. Keeping my budget with that build at 600 bucks and was going to go with the Cooler Master CM 690 II Advance case. Going to be using it for mainly for gaming, planning on playing StarCraft 2, Team Fortress 2, and other various titles. I don't expect to max out the graphics on everything but just wanted to know what I could run and cannot run with this setup. I'm not a huge pc guru or anything so I would appreciate the input :).

at 1920x1080 you will run sc2 at Ultra, TF2 on all max settings and pretty much all current Valve games max. BC2 and JC2 on high. Metro 2033 I'd guess medium or above. BF3 in the fall will probably be medium/high. Your biggest limit will be AA, sometimes you'll have to turn it off, especially new games that come out.


Smokey said:
Also I know gaf says no but I really want DAT gtx 590. I think it'd help in games in general and in 3d performance. Only $200 more or so over the gtx580 I have in my build...

NO. Get 2 GTX580s or even 2 GTX570s. 2 GTX570s are cheaper and faster then a 590.
 

JWong

Banned
~sigh~ I still need an SSD, but I'm not willing to spend so much on it.

Good thing I didn't get that Vertex 2. Saw something in the thread about dubious speeds after they secretly switched to 25nm.
 

Smokey

Member
scogoth said:
at 1920x1080 you will run sc2 at Ultra, TF2 on all max settings and pretty much all current Valve games max. BC2 and JC2 on high. Metro 2033 I'd guess medium or above. BF3 in the fall will probably be medium/high. Your biggest limit will be AA, sometimes you'll have to turn it off, especially new games that come out.




NO. Get 2 GTX580s or even 2 GTX570s. 2 GTX570s are cheaper and faster then a 590.
I only have a 850w PSU tho...
 
Smokey said:
Yeah after sleeping on it I think I'm going to go with the asus 120hz monitor. Should hopefully be ordering the monitor and rest of parts today (8gb RAM, dvd drive, asus gtx 580, win 7 , 2tb drive, Intel 320 ssd). Comes out to about 1500 for all of that.

So final specs for my machine :

Silverstone ft02
Asus p87 mobo
Core I7-2600k
Corsair H70
Corsair 8GB Ram
ASUS GTX 580
Corsair AX 850 PSU
DVD drive
Samsung f4 2tb
Intel 300 series 120gb
Win 7
Razer death adder mouse
Razer mechanical gaming keyboard
Asus 23" 120hz w/ 3d kit

So my total machine looks to come out around $2500-2600ish


Think I'm all set here . I'm nervous!!!

Nice. I remember you were doing a lot of research in the 2010 thread. I'm glad to see you're taking the plunge.
 

scogoth

Member
black_vegeta said:
Really? Nice.

Yeah the 590 contains two uncut 580 GPUs but throttled back to where two 570s generally perform the same or better. The pricing for the 590s right now is $730 on newegg and most 570s are ~$350
 
scogoth said:
Yeah the 590 contains two uncut 580 GPUs but throttled back to where two 570s generally perform the same or better. The pricing for the 590s right now is $730 on newegg and most 570s are ~$350

Nice, save money and get better or equal performance. Thanks for the info.
 
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