It's lined up to come in October according to the supply manager of Overclockers in the UK, I decided I wasn't waiting that long so just went with the 7850 in the end and haven't looked back.
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"I need a New PC!" 2012 Thread. 22nm+28nm, Tri-Gate, and reading the OP. [Part 1]
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It's lined up to come in October according to the supply manager of Overclockers in the UK, I decided I wasn't waiting that long so just went with the 7850 in the end and haven't looked back.
Build in the kitchen, you don't need a wriststrap if you keep touching the case/psu but it makes people feel a lot better the first time.
If everything is working fine that is more than enough power.
Damn, not even really Summer anymore?
Had a BSOD at boot problem at 4.4 so I backed it down to 4.2 and installed the W8 RP, no problems so far. <10 sec boots on my M4. Benched my DCU2T 670 in Heaven and tested the OC waters. Conservatively +30 clock, +400 mem. Waiting until I have my monitor to do anything further and play any games. Will post pics tomorrow
Infinite Justice
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How are the MSI motherboards? any good?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but does anyone have experience with Remote Desktop? I managed to get it working from laptop to PC when booting my laptop in safe mode but obviously that's a less than ideal situation. Upon normal boot, the thing keeps crashing right after I type in the password/try to establish a connection. My googling hasn't yielded any solid fixes-- all I could find was random things about disabling this or that and stuff like updating drivers but everything is up to date. Anyone have any suggestions? Are there any other alternative software for stuff like this?
Turns out I'll need one more SATA cable. Do they sell these things at Best Buy or RadioShack? I'd rather just stop by a store and quickly pick it up than have to order one.
Thanks. That's the plan then.
Thanks. That's the plan then.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Computer has been on for almost four hours now.
All it took was flipping the memory slots and flipping the PSU over so the fan is up now.
All it took was flipping the memory slots and flipping the PSU over so the fan is up now.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Weekend project arrived today!
This will replace my current 60GB Agility 2. As mentioned before, my C drive is riddled with horrible malware even though I've had malwarebytes and AVG since day one and don't do anything fishy or use torrents/etc. But, whatever. So, this will be a nice, fresh start... and it'll also be really nice to have some extra space, as I'm always within about 5 gigs of maxing out my Agility 2.
Plan is to use this for now. And when I do a new build later this year, I'm gonna buy another to RAID0 my C Drive, and then a 256GB model (whatever is fastest under ~$180) for my games.
This will replace my current 60GB Agility 2. As mentioned before, my C drive is riddled with horrible malware even though I've had malwarebytes and AVG since day one and don't do anything fishy or use torrents/etc. But, whatever. So, this will be a nice, fresh start... and it'll also be really nice to have some extra space, as I'm always within about 5 gigs of maxing out my Agility 2.
Plan is to use this for now. And when I do a new build later this year, I'm gonna buy another to RAID0 my C Drive, and then a 256GB model (whatever is fastest under ~$180) for my games.
SUPARSTARX
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Alright, I bought a WD green drive last month. It just stopped detecting in my PC. I've just lost a ton of stuff on the HDD. Is there any way to recover stuff off it?
Hawk269
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This happened to me when I was switching parts in and out and it would lock up every time once I logged into windows. I reset the CMOS thinking that something got corrupted since I was swapping GPU's etc and once I did this the problem went away and has not happened since.
Dance Inferno
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Why the hell can't I find an Asus GTX670 Top anywhere? Sold out on Newegg, and everywhere else is trying to sell me one for like $500. What the hell.
Thanks MrBig, you've been a big help in this process.
One last question and i think the buying spree begins.
My Brother said:
Because it and the ASUS are the best ones to buy. Also poor 28nm yields and nVidia being mad at TSMC.
Not disapproval, just wanting more than a stock card. GPU is a GPU. Warranty is warranty.
If I can get a 670 with a giant 3 slot fan cooler, 680 PCB, and 6+8 pin power for $0 extra I sure as hell will get that over an eVGA.
If you can find a Gigabyte or ASUS 670 in stock... grab it. Otherwise just getting an eVGA is fine.
Dual
Shipping out my old giant case. I got upsold on a Fractal Arc Midi. Hope I like it. Removable fan filters swung me over the 690. 690 II is damn practical and a nice buy at $80 shipped for sure though.
Felt I needed the ability to be open for WC in 1-2 years and have a top USB 3.0 since I'm getting a USB3.0 drive from work.
Old case, old pic (Have 1 670 now). Yes, that is a full size ATX board. No, I didn't really care for cable management. Hopefully the ample room the Arc has on the back side along with the cable management options I can make something work easily.
Felt I needed the ability to be open for WC in 1-2 years and have a top USB 3.0 since I'm getting a USB3.0 drive from work.
Old case, old pic (Have 1 670 now). Yes, that is a full size ATX board. No, I didn't really care for cable management. Hopefully the ample room the Arc has on the back side along with the cable management options I can make something work easily.
According to them, nope. And they were spot on about the time and price of the 670 so I'd be inclined to believe them.
The line up for the next 4-5 months according to him will be
GTX 690 - £800+
GTX 680 4GB - £500+
GTX 680 - £400+
GTX 670 - £300+
GTX 580 - £300 and is now EOL with very little stock left so no further price drops
GTX 570 - £200
GTX 560Ti 448 - £180
GTX 560Ti - £160
GTX 560 - £140
GTX 550Ti - £100
Ah, same older post then.
I'd expect them sooner, but they can easily sell out their older card stock (both AMD and nVidia) while they wait for better supply issues and make the cash on 670/680.
Tribes of Trusty
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Hi everyone, I'm not really knowledgeable in PC Gaming, but I bought the Humble Bundle V yesterday and Limbo didn't run, nor Bastion and Super Meat Boy was clearly taxing on the computer, so I feel a little sad (and the need to upgrade my five years old PC I built).
So here's what I have now :
Thanks for your advice !
So here's what I have now :
- Your Current Specs: CPU : Intel® Celeron® E1200 / RAM (DDR2/DDR3) : 1Go DDRII (512 x2) / Motherboard : Asrock ConRoe1333-D667 R3.0 / GPU : Integrated Intel® GMA 950 / PSU : I don't know, I'll have to open it to see. I have three spares though.
- Budget: Up to 150, in France.
- Main Use: Light Gaming 5, Gaming 3, Emulation (PS2/Wii) 0, Video Editing 1, HD Streaming 2, 3D work 0, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) 5.
- Monitor Resolution: The computer is hooked on my TV, so I guess that's 1280x720. I don't intend to upgrade anytime soon and if I do it'll be another TV screen.
- List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Bastion, Limbo.
- Looking to reuse any parts? : I think I wont keep the RAM/CPU/GPU as they are really obsolete.
- When will you build?: I'm not particularly in a hurry.
- Will you be overclocking?: No
Thanks for your advice !
I probably would have gone with the ASUS 670 TOP if it was in stock, but the eVGA 670 FTW is also on a 680 PCB, runs quieter than the stock 670 (though still single fan), and has clock speeds better than all but the TOP. I wasn't impressed with eVGA's initial offerings, but this card seems to be getting positive initial reviews.
FunkyMunkey
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Yeah, I keep seeing people mention the 680 PCB lacking, and was wondering if it was misinformation.
The low price made me think about Atom chips first, but help me PC gaf, is the AMD Llano bad for this build? 3870k can do gaming at 720p and the CPU seems to be decent enough for some emulation and video editing.
Lasthope106
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I don't know if this is the right thread to ask (I thought we had a computer problems OT but couldn't find it).
Playing Diablo 3 fried my computer yesterday. I was playing the game and all of the sudden the game froze, there was a high pitch sound coming from the speakers and the computer became totally unresponsive. I pressed the power button for 15 seconds to manually restart it, and when it came back, the first screen I usually have when I turn my computer was all messed up. The image was really faint and some of the letters in the words were wrong or in the wrong areas. Again I restarted and then I got nothing as the screen was completely blank. Could the video card have gone bad?
My suspicion was that if the video card was busted, windows would still boot up in the background. To test this, I let it run for an amount of time I was sure always brings up the main Windows login screen. And then I pressed the power button which usually takes about 15 seconds to shut down the computer. This didn't happen. When I get home from work, I'm going to try some more troubleshooting by removing things.
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would really appreciated. I really hope it's not the CPU or the motherboard. What are the symptoms when the power supply goes bad? Will it still run the fans?
Playing Diablo 3 fried my computer yesterday. I was playing the game and all of the sudden the game froze, there was a high pitch sound coming from the speakers and the computer became totally unresponsive. I pressed the power button for 15 seconds to manually restart it, and when it came back, the first screen I usually have when I turn my computer was all messed up. The image was really faint and some of the letters in the words were wrong or in the wrong areas. Again I restarted and then I got nothing as the screen was completely blank. Could the video card have gone bad?
My suspicion was that if the video card was busted, windows would still boot up in the background. To test this, I let it run for an amount of time I was sure always brings up the main Windows login screen. And then I pressed the power button which usually takes about 15 seconds to shut down the computer. This didn't happen. When I get home from work, I'm going to try some more troubleshooting by removing things.
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would really appreciated. I really hope it's not the CPU or the motherboard. What are the symptoms when the power supply goes bad? Will it still run the fans?
Probably is your GPU but it's hard to say, most hardware problems can results in a plethora of different symptoms. A faulty GPU absolutely can stop windows from loading properly. GPU is easiest to test for, just find a friend that you can rip their GPU to test on your system. Could be PSU, could be motherboard, not likely your memory, CPU or HDD but nothing is impossible. I've had faulty USB devices crash computers before, it just doesn't happen very often.
You can also try to 'cook' your GPU to bring it back to life if you're brave enough.
How useful is a fast drive for storage?
I already have a Samsung 830 128GB SSD drive for my OS and important aps/games like Starcraft 2/Diablo 3/Skyrim/Office/Visual Studio
NewEgg has the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM for $79.99
but
I can get a 2 TB Seagate 5400 RPM for 109.99.
Which should I get.
I already have a Samsung 830 128GB SSD drive for my OS and important aps/games like Starcraft 2/Diablo 3/Skyrim/Office/Visual Studio
NewEgg has the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM for $79.99
but
I can get a 2 TB Seagate 5400 RPM for 109.99.
Which should I get.
7200RPM doesn't matter that much if it's not for OS usage. Since your important games are on your SSD anyways, I'd just go for the 5400RPM drive.
You're basically looking at ~100-110MB/s speeds instead of around 120-130MB/s speeds.
That being said, if 1TB is more than enough for you, you may as well go for that, since it's the cheaper option.
You're basically looking at ~100-110MB/s speeds instead of around 120-130MB/s speeds.
That being said, if 1TB is more than enough for you, you may as well go for that, since it's the cheaper option.
For those looking for a good budget case, NCIXUS has the Shinobi on sale for $65.
With that budget I would suggest an entry level Sandy Bridge CPU (Celeron G530 or Pentium G620) with a new motherboard, which would be a tremendous boost already. Along with that 4GB of DDR3 RAM and an entry level Radeon 6670.
I'll give you some Amazon.fr example links:
CPU: http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B004XOZ3V0/ OR http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B005KIWT2O/
RAM: http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B002K23V1Q/
Mainboard: http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B004Q5W7FQ/
GPU: http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B004X615HO/
You can probably find that stuff cheaper at a specialized online store but I don't know any French ones.
All in all that makes around 185 (with the Celeron). You could probably save a little if you change the GPU to a cheaper 6570 or leave it out completely but if you could somehow come up with a little extra money it would be quite a good little machine. Of course you have to check if your PSU will be up for the task, if not that's another 30 to 50 bucks.
You could maybe also go the Llano route but honestly I'd rather take a Intel system with a dedicated video card. It's upgradeable to a more powerful CPU later on and you get more bang for the buck at the moment already. Whatever you do, don't get an Atom or Amd E-350/450 system.
Oh, great. I hadn't really checked up since launch.
I see the eVGA FTW 670 is on sale at Amazon for $419 INSTOCK: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0083Y6MV6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I still think getting the Gigabyte at $399 is the better deal if you can find it, but not complaints about that card if you get a good one.
Yup. Like it says in the OP just a 10-15% speed difference and it's pretty small. I ran my OS off my 2TB 5400RPM just dandy.
dope4goldrope
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Hey guys, can anyone help me out? Got parts for a build yesterday... hooked everything up, nothing. I even tried to power up just the CPU/MOBO and MOBO, nothing. What should I do?
I have the enhanced parts from the main page btw, with the optional 550w PSU.
I have the enhanced parts from the main page btw, with the optional 550w PSU.
Verify all power connectors are in and the PSU is on I of I/O.
You should get at least something. IF you still get nothing, run the paperclip PSU test.
dope4goldrope
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I've tried the power connector every which way it could go. I've also tried the paperclip PSU test and got nothing, but wasn't how sure of a test that is.
Are you CERTAIN everything is plugged in? How about the power button from your case to your motherboard?
dope4goldrope
Member
Yes. Now I've completely stripped down to CPU/motherboard/power button connector from case. Nothing.
dope4goldrope
Member
Is the PSU plugged into a powered outlet?
Last idea is to try and jump the power switch. Get something metal and bridge the two pins that your case power button is plugged into.
Tried that with a paperclip and safety pin. RMA time?
Is the PSU plugged into a powered outlet?
Last idea is to try and jump the power switch. Get something metal and bridge the two pins that your case power button is plugged into.
During the newegg build they recommended doing that just to make sure the basics worked before putting it into the case. He just plugged in the speaker and then jumped it to make sure it beeped. Is that something people normally do?
dope4goldrope
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Ah. Ah. Hold the phone. I literally fucking thwacked it in frustration (not hard) with the paperclip still in it and it passed the paperclip test. Gonna try hooking it up to my system.
dope4goldrope
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Okay. Got my main parts connected (CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU, Mobo)... all systems are a go. Wondering if I should proceed with caution if a thwack is all it needed. Should this PSU be RMA'd for my sanity?
Also. Stock coolers for the CPU. Noticed 1 out of the 4 mounts wouldn't go in. Now in trying to take it out to clamp it together a bit closer so it'll go throguh, one wont come out. What should I do?
Also. Stock coolers for the CPU. Noticed 1 out of the 4 mounts wouldn't go in. Now in trying to take it out to clamp it together a bit closer so it'll go throguh, one wont come out. What should I do?
Put on the heatsink while the motherboard is out of the case. Makes it a ton easier.
Push pin types often need a bit of help going in. Might want some pliers to squeeze the plastic open or closed. Make sure it clicks 100% of the way in.
dope4goldrope
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Yeah, I didn't realize this until after I noticed one of the pushpins didnt go all of the way in. Now I have one stuck in because the screw won't retract and one that won't go in because it needs to be squeezed that I don't have access to because I can't get the stuck one out.
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