This is relevant to my interests. Also wondering about the gap between 660 and 670, or $300 and $400 cards.
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This is relevant to my interests. Also wondering about the gap between 660 and 670, or $300 and $400 cards.
Could this site help you with that? I got it from this thread.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/681?vs=547
Azure Dream
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Getting close to midnight, any thoughts?
Edit: Decided to hold off. The controller and extra power draw I didn't need made me hesitate. Just hope the SeaSonic goes back to the sale price soon.
QualityPixel
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Not sure if this is the place to post this, but I've got an i5 - 3570k overclocked to 4.4ghz with out voltage increase. This is definitely an overclockers CPU, and it has great performance out of the box to boot.
$179.99 a good price for a Radeon 6870?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561
Well 149.99 after mail in rebate for a prepaid card, and free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561
Well 149.99 after mail in rebate for a prepaid card, and free shipping.
More charts!
This is T:A, one minute of footage. You can expect some pretty similar results in a lot of UE3 titles. To be honest, I was expecting more blunt differences in the FPS data, but frame latency again shows it where it counts. There's nearly a ~20FPS (~2.5ms) difference in 99th percentile frame time, yet only a .5 FPS difference in average! Crazy.
This is T:A, one minute of footage. You can expect some pretty similar results in a lot of UE3 titles. To be honest, I was expecting more blunt differences in the FPS data, but frame latency again shows it where it counts. There's nearly a ~20FPS (~2.5ms) difference in 99th percentile frame time, yet only a .5 FPS difference in average! Crazy.
IMO, at that price it would be worth it to pay a bit more for a 7850, even if it's just the 1GB version (at 1080p max)
That's CPU fan error. Just shut it off. It's calibrated for fans that spin at 3000+ RPMs.
I have an asus mobo as well. Can't shut it off i think, but you can lower the warning to something like 200-300 and that way you won't get the warning.
Cool, i'd be going from a Radeon 4870. Usually only play at a resolution of 1440x900.
EDIT: Found out the answer to my other question about 2.0 and 3.0
ThoseDeafMutes
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I'm planning to build a new PC roughly halfway through the year in preparation for the first wave of next generation games. Do we have release dates or any information for the next wave of videocards and CPUs?
From what I've been able to ascertain, they should be coming in Q2 or Q3 of this year. Doesn't sound like they'll be major leaps in performance, though.
Looks about right. It's the proper cooler as well. (One of XFX's has a crap cooler on it)
Are you sure it isn't on Auto? What is your voltage loaded? I'd aim for under 1.30V personally.
Q2 should be when everything hits.
Haswell is more targetted towards power savings (CPU Architecture is specced at 10-20W instead of ~35W) That made me skeptical of it's benefits over current chips, but some Intel guy did an AMA and basically said Haswell is the shit for gaming. SO WHO KNOWS.
nVidia and AMD should be releasing both their new architectures (hopefully) by Q2.
GHG
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If you mod games heavily or want to mod games heavily then definately go for the 3GB version. I have 2 3GB 660's (non Ti) in SLI and my VRAM usage goes well above 2GB in Skyrim when modded.
If you can get the 3GB for the same or similar price its a no brainier. There are also some theories that the 660 and 660 Ti can't use more than 1.5GB properly of the 2GB due to the architecture modification that had to be made to fit 2gb onto the 192 bit memory interface (1.5GB or 3GB of VRAM naturally fit the 192 bit, not 2GB).
Basically, go for the 3GB.
doniewhalberg
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Zombie James
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What's a good, free app for multi-monitor configuration? Specifically, I'm looking for something that'll give me a taskbar on both screens.
Koroviev
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Right-click on your taskbar. It's an option under properties.
Hey all, I just built a computer with the i5 3750k and for graphics, the radeon 7850 hd with a z77a-g43 motherboard.
Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get Ubuntu to recognize my graphics card? It's not too big of a deal, as I'm planning on getting Windows installed before long, for gaming, but I will probably spend more time in Ubuntu. I have gotten a few messages from the system about the system having to use the on-cpu graphics rather than the card I have on the motherboard.
Feel free to ask any questions, I'm kind of new at this, this is my first machine. If there are some resources for this that I missed, feel free to point them out.
Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get Ubuntu to recognize my graphics card? It's not too big of a deal, as I'm planning on getting Windows installed before long, for gaming, but I will probably spend more time in Ubuntu. I have gotten a few messages from the system about the system having to use the on-cpu graphics rather than the card I have on the motherboard.
Feel free to ask any questions, I'm kind of new at this, this is my first machine. If there are some resources for this that I missed, feel free to point them out.
Tried installing the drivers off AMD's website?
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
MrGreencastle
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I would have thought Ubuntu would detect your graphics card through the proprietary, closed-source, driver manager, but I haven't used the OS in some time to verify. Using the drivers off of AMD's website means you'd have to run a script to install, yourself - and it's probably a better idea to use Ubuntu's supported repo for the driver, anyway.
So, boot with the integrated graphics, and look for that application. It used to be called "restricted drivers" or something similar. Alternatively, you can install the "fglrx" package through the terminal with apt, or you could use a GUI tool like Synaptic or the Software Store, if they include drivers, that is.
Sorry if that wasn't very helpful, I've used Ubuntu very sparingly since they replaced the UI.
GHG
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1080p with 8x AA. Sometimes I'll downsample from 2560 x 1440 with 4x AA and the VRAM usage goes up to 2.5 - 2.7 GB in certain areas.
Koroviev
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Heh, we built almost the same computer! Except I opted for a cheaper, non-overclockable motherboard for the time being
Anyway, do you have another Windows OS (XP or above) lying around? If so, you can install that on your new machine, then upgrade to Windows 8 for $40 anytime up until the 31st of this month. And yes, you must install the old OS first because the upgrade version of Windows 8 needs to detect the prior version in order to work. Then, simply delete all partitions and you will be working with a clean install. I'm a big fan of Windows 8, so I feel that it is a worthy upgrade, especially considering that you receive the Pro version.
Dave_6
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How does this look for gaming only at no higher than 1080p on a 60" plasma?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/TemporaryWishList.aspx?ChangeQty=0
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/TemporaryWishList.aspx?ChangeQty=0
Koroviev
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Dave_6
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Oops. Well I actually don't have an account as it's just a temporary wish list.
It's a i5 3570/660ti/8GB ~$1000 build.
Here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xqAX
It's a i5 3570/660ti/8GB ~$1000 build.
Here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xqAX
Koroviev
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I would go with Windows 8 for the OS, especially if you are currently running a prior version of Windows (XP and above). It's only $40 to upgrade from an old version to Windows 8 Pro through the 31st of this month. It's exceptionally responsive and demonstrates that Microsoft has finally mastered the art of gracefully insta-killing hung applications. It's very easy to circumvent the tablet-oriented features.
Koroviev
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It's inexpensive and I've encountered very few issues while running it, including playing through the entirety of Spec Ops: The Line
I had Windows 7, but it just isn't as snappy. The application launcher is also much improved.
Most of us are running windows 7 on a SSD though. I highly doubt windows 8 is a significant improvement over that. In terms of snappyness.It's inexpensive and I've encountered very few issues with it, including playing through the entirety of Spec Ops: The Line
I had Windows 7, but it just isn't as snappy. The application launcher is also much improved.
Snappy or not, it still slows one down when doing workstation oriented tasks like heavy spreadsheet->photoshop->lightroom editing. I had it installed for about a week and went back because it has taken a lot of the shortcuts out.
As far as being more snappy, maybe only in the instance of killing programs. Otherwise, it has some really funky things going on that it is doing in the background which causes some pretty serious stutter in games.
As far as being more snappy, maybe only in the instance of killing programs. Otherwise, it has some really funky things going on that it is doing in the background which causes some pretty serious stutter in games.
This is just insanity. You don't improve being able to hit windows key, type in part of the name of whatever it is you want to run and hit enter. It is literally impossible to make that faster.
Koroviev
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Snappy or not, it still slows one down when doing workstation oriented tasks like heavy spreadsheet->photoshop->lightroom editing. I had it installed for about a week and went back because it has taken a lot of the shortcuts out.
As far as being more snappy, maybe only in the instance of killing programs. Otherwise, it has some really funky things going on that it is doing in the background which causes some pretty serious stutter in games.
This is just insanity. You don't improve being able to hit windows key, type in part of the name of whatever it is you want to run and hit enter. It is literally impossible to make that faster.
It feels more integrated, in my opinion. It seems like something of an afterthought in Windows 7.
It might not be worth an upgrade if you're already running Windows 7 (for me, it was), but it seems somewhat short-sighted to go with an older, more expensive OS when the latest iteration is at least half as expensive.
Trojita
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Well technically Windows 8 allows you to just type and press enter. Hitting the Windows key isn't needed on the main screen.
Except it splits the search results stupidly so you have to hit arrow down all the time.
Start8 solves all this.
Koroviev
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Are you referring to the apps/settings/files split?
I'm talking about windows 7 not being snappy. It's as snappy as windows 8 if you are running on a SSD.
Koroviev
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It *might* be just a tad snappier with Windows 8, but I don't have an SSD to test that theory
If you're totally satisfied with Windows 7, then that's awesome! Stick with it and save money. However, I do prefer Windows 8 for the reasons I've stated.
Yes
Need help choosing a motherboard.
So far I'm looking at...
Zalman Z11 plus case
Gigabyte GTX 670
Intel I5 3570k processor
It sounds like I would be best with a Z77 chipset for the motherboard. No idea which to get though. Would all motherboards have enough pins and plugs for all the fans in that case?
So far I'm looking at...
Zalman Z11 plus case
Gigabyte GTX 670
Intel I5 3570k processor
It sounds like I would be best with a Z77 chipset for the motherboard. No idea which to get though. Would all motherboards have enough pins and plugs for all the fans in that case?
I gave this a shot, then the x windows or whatever it is called stopped showing up, I tried to get them to show up, and now I can't log in. Oh well, I've only had the computer for a day, nothing much on there.
I have a win7 disk I'm installing now. I have absolutely no desire to spend money for win8, though. I'll be sticking with 7, then clearing the (probably) broken ubuntu partition and re-installing.Heh, we built almost the same computer! Except I opted for a cheaper, non-overclockable motherboard for the time being
Anyway, do you have another Windows OS (XP or above) lying around? If so, you can install that on your new machine, then upgrade to Windows 8 for $40 anytime up until the 31st of this month. And yes, you must install the old OS first because the upgrade version of Windows 8 needs to detect the prior version in order to work. Then, simply delete all partitions and you will be working with a clean install. I'm a big fan of Windows 8, so I feel that it is a worthy upgrade, especially considering that you receive the Pro version.
Infinite Justice
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Yea that spliting thing isn't that great but the concept of typing and it automatically starts searching is interesting for Windows
As for Win 7 vs 8 i see no "must have" reason to jump on 8 yet unless you want the fancy garbage.
Download the 64bit version and use the key you have.
QualityPixel
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I'm no expert at overclocking, but I assume you are talking about the "turbo" mode that the Intel procs have now? The turbo mode on the 3570k is 3.8ghz. So basic OC'ing with this 3570k is just increasing the max multiplier it can use.
About 30 minutes after I made that post things started crashing, lol so I stepped up the volts just one step and that was not quite enough. My friends were starting to bug me about joining them for some Starcraft so I backed it back down to 4.3ghz so I wouldn't crash in the middle of the game. I'll look into the voltage limits some more and see what I can do. I think I'll stick with less than 1.25 volts.
Having run windows 8 I see lots of reasons not to use it as a "enthusiast". 3DMark won't run, other benches are worse than win7, games run a little slower, all of the new features are annoying for desktop use, driver incompatibilities, and on and on and on. I now have one win7 install for benching and win8 for everything else. If it wasnt for the fact that I never bought windows 7 I would still be running it.
This looks fantastic, though I have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm saving this to potentially build in the next week or so. Pretty much the budget I'm on as well.
I'd change your, go low profile. Get this stuff if the Samsung stuff doesn't come back in stock before you order.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186
Sure you need a sound card?
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