Looks like an excellent build to me. The difference between the 7970 and 770 is relatively small - personally I would choose the 7970 as they are generally cheaper, come with free games and will usually overclock well too. The only other thing I would suggest is maybe going for RAM without the heatsink sticking out like the ones you've chosen in case they block the fan on the cooler.
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With a good cooler noise isn't am issue.
What kind of RAM would you recommend?
EDIT: Also not sure which 7970 brand is the best /: Gigabyte, ASUS, Sapphire, etc.
Crimsonclaw111
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From what I've heard Sapphire seems to be extremely reliable on the AMD side.
Thanks LordAlu! I really appreciate you taking the time to check it out. Ordering parts now!
Those are all good brands. ASUS one is a bit big though.
Thanks! Is that the best deal on the 27 inch and are there any retail stores that might have one? Then again newegg doesn't have tax. Monitor also seems to be a bit older but I suppose 4K is the most recent big thing and that obviously isn't at my price range
Well the Asus is 380~ on Amazon, seems like a good price to me.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00906HM6K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have an ASUS VH242 currently. This one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052
What would be the biggest upgrade on that without spending too much? I want a new monitor for my i5-4670K 7970 build since I can see the backlit lights on the top corner of my monitor when its illuminating a white background. and I also want a better picture
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052
What would be the biggest upgrade on that without spending too much? I want a new monitor for my i5-4670K 7970 build since I can see the backlit lights on the top corner of my monitor when its illuminating a white background. and I also want a better picture
charlequin
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For the most part it doesn't seem to matter too much as long as you've got them. Make sure you split them between intake and exhaust. I've got four and I did side-and-front-in, top-and-back-out since the link in the OP seemed to suggest there was a tiny incremental benefit to it but I don't think you can really screw it up that badly.
Chance Hale
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That doesn't come with the Nvidia Vision glasses though so I'd have to grab those separately which is like 100 dollars. Not sure whether I should just grab the 24 inch model because it's so much cheaper. Are there big differences aside from the size?
Erebus
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I'm curious, do you use a Logitech mouse?
Face it Tiger..
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I need a laptop (in Canada) that will do all of this plus a better GPU preferably 600 series, for under $800.
halp?
Intel I7 processor with chipset that must support Intel Virtualization Technology
8 GB of ram (16 GB preferred)
500 GB hard drive
CDRW/DVDRW combo drive
10/100 Auto Sensing Network Card
10/100 A/G/N Standard card (one of these standards will suffice)
One USB 3.0 port (two preferred)
halp?
Intel I7 processor with chipset that must support Intel Virtualization Technology
8 GB of ram (16 GB preferred)
500 GB hard drive
CDRW/DVDRW combo drive
10/100 Auto Sensing Network Card
10/100 A/G/N Standard card (one of these standards will suffice)
One USB 3.0 port (two preferred)
Gooood luck. Keep an eye on mem ex's daily deals, sometimes a good laptop shows up for cheap there.
Not that I know of.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-planning...x-titan-geforce-gtx-780-geforce-gtx-770-gpus/
I have 40 days left on my EVGA step up.....please hurry Nvidia
I have 40 days left on my EVGA step up.....please hurry Nvidia
Yep one the best brands to overlock with.
Check overclock.net the forums have excellent oc guides based on max performance or quality. For the 7950 an msi twin forzr or sapphire vapor x is really good same for 7970 series.
Celcius
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I do (I also had that issue before going back to the 314.22's on my gtx 560)
Wow, ram prices have really jumped since fall last year...
I think I made a terribly amateur mistake.
I was fixing a friend's PC - he needed a new motherboard, so I told him to get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693
It turns out his old motherboard was this one: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X58-Pro-E.html#/?div=Basic
His CPU is bigger and doesn't fit into the new motherboard. This is what it says on his CPU:
INTEL i7-950
INTEL CORE i7
SLBEN COSTA RICA
3.06 GHZ/8M/4.80/08
3047A164
So I'm SOL, right - I can either tell him to get a new motherboard that fits the bigger CPU or get a new CPU, right?
I was fixing a friend's PC - he needed a new motherboard, so I told him to get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693
It turns out his old motherboard was this one: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X58-Pro-E.html#/?div=Basic
His CPU is bigger and doesn't fit into the new motherboard. This is what it says on his CPU:
INTEL i7-950
INTEL CORE i7
SLBEN COSTA RICA
3.06 GHZ/8M/4.80/08
3047A164
So I'm SOL, right - I can either tell him to get a new motherboard that fits the bigger CPU or get a new CPU, right?
LOL, yep, you told him to buy a motherboard four generations and two sockets newer than the one he has.
However you'd have a real hard time finding a motherboard to fit that old cpu anyway. Which is too bad, it's still pretty competitive.
Best bet - sell the old CPU and upgrade anyway. Or return the motherboard and look for a used one that would work with his.
However you'd have a real hard time finding a motherboard to fit that old cpu anyway. Which is too bad, it's still pretty competitive.
Best bet - sell the old CPU and upgrade anyway. Or return the motherboard and look for a used one that would work with his.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Some crappy i3.
Unfortunately for you, 1150 is the latest socket and thus home to the costliest CPUs.
I sorted cheapest on newegg, and this came up: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116950
It's probably shit.
Ok then, what LGA 1150 CPU is the same or just a bit better than his current one:
INTEL i7-950
INTEL CORE i7
SLBEN COSTA RICA
3.06 GHZ/8M/4.80/08
3047A164
It's probably shit.
Ok then, what LGA 1150 CPU is the same or just a bit better than his current one:
INTEL i7-950
INTEL CORE i7
SLBEN COSTA RICA
3.06 GHZ/8M/4.80/08
3047A164
Depends on use. If it's just games then any i5 would be roughly the same or faster. But if he does video work then would need an i7. Sadly, the 'comparable' cpu is also the most expensive. the 4770K.
4670K, maybe? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
The motherboard he got will let you overclock, but you'll need a K-series processor like that one to take advantage of it.
Here's AnandTech's benchmark comparison of the i7-950 and the i5-4670K: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/100?vs=837
OFFIS
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Yep, G400 and I have the Logitech gaming software installed.
Hmm, could it be that Logitech and Nvidia drivers dont play along nicely?
So regarding my situation of my friend getting a new LGA 1150 processor to match his old INTEL i7-950. What about this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896
Also, where would be a good place to sell the INTEL i7-950 - eBay? Do locally owned computer part stores usually buy parts?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896
Also, where would be a good place to sell the INTEL i7-950 - eBay? Do locally owned computer part stores usually buy parts?
Turn off hardware acceleration in browsers, mine's working fine with the beta drivers (560 Ti admittedly, but same damn problems) and I turned that stuff off. I did also use DriverSweeper to ensure there was no AMD/ATi/nVidia baggage left behind too though.
And ignore the Logitech crap, it's purely down on the video card and browsers, too widespread of an issue and I'm using a Logitech mouse right now.
So I got the 212 evo, the plus wasn't available, and it is blocking one ram slot.
Do you not have low profile RAM? This is why we always recommend lp ram.
No, I got the GSkill RipJawsZ 8 GB DDR3 1866 Mhz sticks because it was red and fit my motherboards aesthetics.
Anything that doesn't have a big heatsink on the top. Crucial Ballistix, Corsair Vengeance LP or G.Skill Ares are all good choices.
Pretty much any brand of 7970 is good except maybe XFX. Sapphire, Asus, Gigabyte and MSI are ones I'd go for myself (the Asus one is triple slot mind).
Took the middle one away and I've put it back together with the middle bay also removed. It started up like a charm *o*
I hope it was the middle one that caused the problems so I wont experience this again in the near future
And it's back :/ This morning my computer was autobooting again, but failed.
I turned it on and it worked, but after a hour he just turned itself off while I was playing a game and rebooted -> failed. I press the button to startup again and he's back on.
It's not like the previous time it seems, since it always failed at the boot than. Now it just fails when he's auto trying (for some reason), but when I press my power button he starts up with no problem.
I've been trying to optimize my build as of lately. I've got a SSD (840 Pro 256GB) and it helped a lot compared to using a regular HDD.
My question to the experts: I've been playing Arkham City and have experimented with various settings. Under DX11 I'm getting a lot of small freezes or "load lag" every time I move around the city. Is the game really that badly optimized so that my rig can't handle this game well at 1920x1080? (DX11, High textures, effects enable except ambient occulsion). Seems like disabling DX11 helps somewhat, but damnit, shouldn't my setup eat this game?
I thought the SSD would eliminate the small stutters (drops in fps) that occur from loading, but seems like it hasn't completely. The drive is on SATA 3.0, and testing shows 530mb/s seq. reads.
Specs:
ASRock Pro3 mobo
3570k (non-OC)
Sapphire 7970 (non-OC, latest beta drivers)
840 Pro 256GB (SATA3.0)
Windows 8
My question to the experts: I've been playing Arkham City and have experimented with various settings. Under DX11 I'm getting a lot of small freezes or "load lag" every time I move around the city. Is the game really that badly optimized so that my rig can't handle this game well at 1920x1080? (DX11, High textures, effects enable except ambient occulsion). Seems like disabling DX11 helps somewhat, but damnit, shouldn't my setup eat this game?
I thought the SSD would eliminate the small stutters (drops in fps) that occur from loading, but seems like it hasn't completely. The drive is on SATA 3.0, and testing shows 530mb/s seq. reads.
Specs:
ASRock Pro3 mobo
3570k (non-OC)
Sapphire 7970 (non-OC, latest beta drivers)
840 Pro 256GB (SATA3.0)
Windows 8
Turn off DX11, doesn't work properly for anyone. Also lower Pshyx, not very well optimised in that game.
Even for the i5/Nvidia crowd?
Alright. I'll do that then.
About PhysX. I'm not even getting an option for disabling it, so I guess it is off then?
Decided to build a simple Steam Machine to hookup to my Plasma
A10-6800K
8GB DDR3 2133MHz
OS 120 SSD EVO
RAID1 120 SSD EVO x2
Overclocked the APU GPU to 1085MHz
Most games run at 720p with 60FPS and 2xAA with max settings
and the striped SSD makes game load super fast
Quite happy with this simple system and games look and run much better than PS360
A10-6800K
8GB DDR3 2133MHz
OS 120 SSD EVO
RAID1 120 SSD EVO x2
Overclocked the APU GPU to 1085MHz
Most games run at 720p with 60FPS and 2xAA with max settings
and the striped SSD makes game load super fast
Quite happy with this simple system and games look and run much better than PS360
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ASUS 2GB 7850 TOP plus games for £110 at Novatech http://m.novatech.co.uk/products/co...ards/amdhd7850series/hd7850-dc2t-2gd5-v2.html
ASUS 2GB 7850 TOP plus games for £110 at Novatech http://m.novatech.co.uk/products/co...ards/amdhd7850series/hd7850-dc2t-2gd5-v2.html
4.5 is amazing for a 4770K. To go higher you'd need to delid the processor/go water cooled.
You couldn't overclock it, but it's still a great CPU.
eBay's probably a good option. I don't know what demand is like for earlier i-series processors, but it looks like the 950 is going used for ~$120 and up. I doubt a computer store would buy older parts like this, or at least not at an attractive price, but who knows.
Hey everyone, first time posting in this thread. I'm looking to build a new PC sometime soon and was hoping that someone can have a look over what I've picked out so far and see if I'm on the right track, or if I should make any big changes.
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: I'm from the UK and have £1000 to spend
Main Use: Gaming, working with Visual Studio 2012, and general use.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080. I will be reusing my current LG 23" monitor.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: 60FPS for gaming would be preferred.
Looking to reuse any parts?: In addition to reusing my monitor, I was planning to reuse my old hard drives for storage. They are a 3TB Seagate ST3000M001-9YN166, and a 500GB Western Digital WDC WD5001AALS. I should also have a few optical drives around the house that I can reuse as well. Let me know if it would be worth replacing any of these.
When will you build?: I'm looking to build as soon as possible. Hopefully before the end of the month.
Will you be overclocking?: Not planning on it.
This is what I was looking at so far.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£143.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£168.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£200.11 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.58 @ Dabs)
Total: £868.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 15:16 BST+0100)
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: I'm from the UK and have £1000 to spend
Main Use: Gaming, working with Visual Studio 2012, and general use.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080. I will be reusing my current LG 23" monitor.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: 60FPS for gaming would be preferred.
Looking to reuse any parts?: In addition to reusing my monitor, I was planning to reuse my old hard drives for storage. They are a 3TB Seagate ST3000M001-9YN166, and a 500GB Western Digital WDC WD5001AALS. I should also have a few optical drives around the house that I can reuse as well. Let me know if it would be worth replacing any of these.
When will you build?: I'm looking to build as soon as possible. Hopefully before the end of the month.
Will you be overclocking?: Not planning on it.
This is what I was looking at so far.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£143.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£168.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£200.11 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.58 @ Dabs)
Total: £868.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 15:16 BST+0100)
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Unknown One
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I would switch the MSI 760 GTX for a Gigabyte 760 GTX if you're going for a 760 GTX. It's has a higher overclock, just as quiet, and runs just as cool.
I wish I went Gigabyte.
I wish I went Gigabyte.
That RAM is 1.65v, PSU is a bit dung for your budget, SSD over-specced, 7970 or 670 I'd take at that price over the 760, mobo a bit overkill, and case a bit cheap.
Overclocking is easy btw so you will be wanting to do that. Have a look at this build instead
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£105.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.70 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£71.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video card: Asus DirectCU II TOP Radeon HD 7970 AMD Graphics Card - 3GB (£221.75)
Total: £848.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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You've enough room in that budget still to play around with a bigger SSD if you wanted, or something like an H80 for the cooler. Plenty of wiggle room.
Just it's a more known quantity with regards to mobo reliability but yeah the price difference is only really a tenner or so.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£170.70 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£113.77 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.70 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£71.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Asus DirectCU II TOP Radeon HD 7970 AMD Graphics Card - 3GB (£221.75)
Total: £858.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 16:10 BST+0100)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£170.70 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£113.77 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.70 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£71.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Asus DirectCU II TOP Radeon HD 7970 AMD Graphics Card - 3GB (£221.75)
Total: £858.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 16:10 BST+0100)
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I've been looking into a similar build, I am curious about Kaveri when is that supposed to get released.
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