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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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Anyone has an idea? If it's a shortage again with the case, I have no idea what to look for since I took the 'bad' one already out. Could the motherboard be broken or something?
Summary: when I start my pc, he auto shuts down after some time (30mins, 1 hour..) and tries to reboot, but fails. When i manually turn it back, ge starts, but back after some time he auto shuts down.
Also sometimes he starts himself up even when he's shutdown. When he do this he just reboots the whole time.
Jzero
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Why don't you get the elite 130? it's only like $10 more.
Yay, got the board! Ended up getting an Asus Maximus VI Hero witch was on a discounted price in a local store.
I'm going to put everything together now. Any precautions I should take with static besides touching the case with the power cord connected to the PSU?
Also, I have a key for Win 8 Pro. Is there a link to download the ISO from Microsoft?
I'm going to put everything together now. Any precautions I should take with static besides touching the case with the power cord connected to the PSU?
Also, I have a key for Win 8 Pro. Is there a link to download the ISO from Microsoft?
DodgyGeezerFella
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Guys, i have a serious question.
GT620 vs 8600GT, which one is best ?
GT620 vs 8600GT, which one is best ?
Jzero
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What's the difference?
If you ever decide to put a 120mm water cooling radiator you can. It also has mesh in the front if you like using LED fans.
Diving in this month and building my first PC. This thread has been a great help to get me started. Does everything on my parts list look good?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1LR0Y (excluding video card)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Arctic Alumina Premium Ceramic Polysynthetic 1.75g Thermal Paste ($4.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Nvidia GTX 680 (Donated)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.97 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $965.81
I've also been looking for a way to have some sort of switch for a microphone/keyboard + mouse (all USB) to go between 2 computers, but haven't had any luck finding something concrete. Anyone have any suggestions on this?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1LR0Y (excluding video card)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Arctic Alumina Premium Ceramic Polysynthetic 1.75g Thermal Paste ($4.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Nvidia GTX 680 (Donated)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.97 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $965.81
I've also been looking for a way to have some sort of switch for a microphone/keyboard + mouse (all USB) to go between 2 computers, but haven't had any luck finding something concrete. Anyone have any suggestions on this?
No need for paste, drop that. Do you really need a Blu-ray drive? 840 Pro is also overkill unless you're doing a serious amount of writing. I'd bump up the mobo to the next model up, swap your PSU and RAM for these ones too.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87X 3D ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.46 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.95 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $881.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-07 08:28 EDT-0400)
Everything's together and running fine. Just one thing, there are three 2 pin cables coming from the case and I can't figure out what they do and where to connect them. My case is the Define R4. Any suggestions?
I noticed that the case speaker isn't making any sound, probably that's because of those cables
I noticed that the case speaker isn't making any sound, probably that's because of those cables
kharma45, Thanks for the quick reply! Is thermal paste something that is included in the fan or processor? I'm just curious why it isn't needed.
As for the Bluray Drive, it really isn't necessary, but i was thinking i may like to have access to one on this PC, but thinking on it most of the stuff i watch is digital anyway. I may decided not too, we'll see.
As for the Bluray Drive, it really isn't necessary, but i was thinking i may like to have access to one on this PC, but thinking on it most of the stuff i watch is digital anyway. I may decided not too, we'll see.
The Hyper 212 comes with its own paste.
Do reconsider an optical drive, I find they are pretty redundant for most people now.
Found out. The cables were to connect the fans directly to the case. All good. Now, just preparing to install Windows
schandmann
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Higher stock clocks don't mean shit because overclocking a GPU is so damn easy. EVGA seems to have the best RMA service in the US from what I hear.
I'd get what's cheapest tbh. Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI and Sapphire all make top notch cards.
Oh, and the 7970 can be overclocked to roughly 770 performance and is a lot cheaper right now. Tell him to consider that as well.
Yeah, I've been suggesting a 7970 too as I got one myself, but he's a GeForce guy, so I wont start any religious wars here
Do you know about EVGAs RMA outside US? Is it worth anything in Scandinavia?
Yeah, I've been suggesting a 7970 too as I got one myself, but he's a GeForce guy, so I wont start any religious wars here
Do you know about EVGAs RMA outside US? Is it worth anything in Scandinavia?
EVGA's European RMA base is in Germany and the service is as good here as it is in the US by the looks of it.
That guy had some third party drivers installed. They said different mem sizes aren't officially supported, not that it doesn't work. However, it will only use as much memory as there is on the smallest card.
Take your chances I guess but personally I'd prefer to use matched cards.
Grease remover seems like a scam. Buy a bottle of isopropyl alcohol. Just need a organic solvent to remove paste.
batman2million
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sigh. just when I was about to pick up at 770 to replace my dusty old 570, AMD goes up and announces the R9280X.
I've been an Nvidia guy for a good while but the price seems very difficult to beat. I'm hoping the R9 280X will be able to run my games on full at 1080.
Guess we'll wait and see tomorrow.
I've been an Nvidia guy for a good while but the price seems very difficult to beat. I'm hoping the R9 280X will be able to run my games on full at 1080.
Guess we'll wait and see tomorrow.
Crimsonclaw111
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I hear MSI and ASUS GPUs are the best overclockers, especially on AMD. Any truth to this?
Factory OC ones are ones that have been pre tested. SC versions might be able to OC to the same levels but it's really luck of the draw/whether they locked the voltage on them or not. Sometimes the OC ones come with a better cooler than the stock ones.
prodystopian
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Are mid-range mobos with bluetooth common? I did a search on the newegg pages for most of the recommended mobos in the OP and didn't see anything, so I'm thinking no, but I wanted to ask just in case. Is getting a cheap USB adapter a better idea?
If you missed it
Do you have extra RAM to test? Bad RAM can cause all kind of issues.
if you google wall mounted PC's there are quite a few different ones, you can certainly do it on a lower budget, I've thought about doing it myself before...
another example
The wires realy should be hidden behind it as in my post .
This looks imo a little unpleasing to look at .
Kinda hoping the new AMD cards will drop the price of the Gigabyte GTX 770 OC Windforce 3X.
€348 atm. Make it €300 and I'll buy it.
HD7970 is still mostly €300 and up here. Really not worth. There's like two of them at €260 or so but the user reviews on those make me not want to buy one.
€348 atm. Make it €300 and I'll buy it.
HD7970 is still mostly €300 and up here. Really not worth. There's like two of them at €260 or so but the user reviews on those make me not want to buy one.
I'm doing my first build and buying components over time when I have the money. I've snagged an MSI Z77 G45A board (as per the 'Standard' build spreadsheet) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on a graphics card?
This PC is going under the telly which is just a 26" LCD, so it can only output 720p. It's going to be used for streaming TV, playing music, web etc as well as games. I'm not mega fussed about 60fps or ultra settings etc etc but I was thinking about getting a 2gb 7850 for a decent kick (again, this is in the build sheet). Does that sound like overkill or about right? Thanks GAF!
EDIT: Sorry, didn't mention a processor or RAM! Have been looking at an i5, either a 2500K or a 3570k and 8Gb RAM.
This PC is going under the telly which is just a 26" LCD, so it can only output 720p. It's going to be used for streaming TV, playing music, web etc as well as games. I'm not mega fussed about 60fps or ultra settings etc etc but I was thinking about getting a 2gb 7850 for a decent kick (again, this is in the build sheet). Does that sound like overkill or about right? Thanks GAF!
EDIT: Sorry, didn't mention a processor or RAM! Have been looking at an i5, either a 2500K or a 3570k and 8Gb RAM.
LaserBuddha
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Cross-posting in regard to the deal for an HD 7970 OC and 3 games for $262:
I have a Dell with a Phenom II X6 1075T processor.
Currently I have an HD 6970 (well, a 6950 with the extra shaders unlocked, but the same thing).
I don't really understand how my cpu factors into the grand scheme of things, and I'm sure it will vary from game to game. I'm wondering though if this upgrade would be bottlenecked by the cpu? Have I hit a ceiling and should just wait until I can build a new machine in a years time or longer, or would this be a good "last upgrade" for the system?
I want to max out BF4 like I do BF3. It would be nice to do the same for Crysis 2 (as an example) with the graphics upgrade patch and hi-res texture pack, which runs like shit for me whereas the original released version was buttery smooth at max settings.
I play in 1080p btw and dont care about the free games all that much.
I have a Dell with a Phenom II X6 1075T processor.
Currently I have an HD 6970 (well, a 6950 with the extra shaders unlocked, but the same thing).
I don't really understand how my cpu factors into the grand scheme of things, and I'm sure it will vary from game to game. I'm wondering though if this upgrade would be bottlenecked by the cpu? Have I hit a ceiling and should just wait until I can build a new machine in a years time or longer, or would this be a good "last upgrade" for the system?
I want to max out BF4 like I do BF3. It would be nice to do the same for Crysis 2 (as an example) with the graphics upgrade patch and hi-res texture pack, which runs like shit for me whereas the original released version was buttery smooth at max settings.
I play in 1080p btw and dont care about the free games all that much.
FallingEdge
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So I just installed my H100i and so far, so good. That being said, my idle temps seem awfully high. Around 35-40 degrees C. One of the things that I plan to do is reapply thermal paste and try again. I forgot to remove the paste that was already existing on the CPU from my old CM Hyper 212 cooler. That being said, once I clean it out and apply it again, can I expect a 10 degree drop? Also, how important is a push/pull configuration? Maybe something like this?
This is my current case.
This is my current case.
FlipJonesy
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I've got an upgrade question.
I've got an i3-3220, and I'm looking to upgrade to something quad core for my gaming pc. I'm on about a 220 budget, but, the cheaper, the better. From what I've been reading the i5-3570 should be plenty capable. But is there anything else I should be looking at? Preferably something with a 1155 socket, so I can keep my mobo.
I've got an i3-3220, and I'm looking to upgrade to something quad core for my gaming pc. I'm on about a 220 budget, but, the cheaper, the better. From what I've been reading the i5-3570 should be plenty capable. But is there anything else I should be looking at? Preferably something with a 1155 socket, so I can keep my mobo.
220 what? Pence, Vietnamese dong, Australian dollars?
What mobo do you have too?
Anyone?
7950 upwards, 670/760 upwards.
7850 is a fine card, depends on where you live in the world for what deals.
Go for a 3570K btw.
schandmann
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7950 / GTX 670 / GTX 760 would (IMHO of course) be a good jump. Depending on where you are in Europe, you could also look if there's a good deal available on a 7970.Anyone?
Generally speaking, AMD cards are better value right now. If you're Team nVidia or need CUDA or something, wait for them to react to AMD's new lineup. Should be some price drops ahead.
Edit: Beat'd, I guess.
FlipJonesy
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Ug, sorry, 220 USD.
I've got a asrock b75 pro 3-m. It's decent, does what I need it to, I'd prefer not to upgrade it, unless anyone can convince me otherwise.
Yeah with that mobo a 3570 would be your best bet.
Dick Justice
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-27EA33V-inch-IPS-Monitor/dp/B00APUP1D6
So for gaming, would this monitor be fine?
So for gaming, would this monitor be fine?
Thanks! I'm in Italy, I'll look for some deal on Amazon.it or maybe wait a few weeks for price cuts or new budget cards. Thanks again you both!
EDIT: oh forgot to say I'm actually team nvidia. I know it's silly and AMD has come a long way but I was team ati before and the drivers have kinda scarred me for life. I hope I'll be able to go over my prejudice someday
ASUS 7970 TOP for £204 at Scan from their today only page
http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/index.aspx
Phenomenal value
http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/index.aspx
Phenomenal value
Wait for tomorrow. Benches and reviews will be out. It should be a rebadged 7970, but might as well have confirmation and see pricing. Then you can always take advantage of discounted pricing of existing cards.
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