Wow, thanks for the link!
What do you have now?
Maxwell won't be Q1. The architecture is being designed for 20nm, I can't see it coming to 28nm. Far, far too much effort.
I need a better GPU for Titanfall. Get a 760 GTX now or wait for the Q1 Maxwell equivalent at that pricepoint? I'm basically unsure how much more bang for buck to expect from 28nm Maxwell...I can't wait for the 20nm chips.
I keep reading that 20nm mass production won't be before Q4 and that Nvidia will likely release something to bridge the gap...
I would like something faster right now to run TF2 at 300 fps, but I won't need anything before Titanfall.
NoRéN;87983389 said:Dudes, need some advice. Basically, how do I explain to someone that it's ok to build a new PC right now?
My sister recently got back into gaming. Since she missed all of this gen she wants a gaming pc to play everything for cheap. However, she wants the pc to be able to play some next gen stuff too. with that said, the biggest worry for her is that she's been reading game pc requirements and can't comprehend how a game like BF4 can differ so much from COD Ghosts. Basically, she doesn't want a pc that is great but still can't run next gen games.
I mentioned how PC-thread folks seem unbothered by all this and you all have done me no wrong.
So, how do I explain all this? Are the excessive cpu requirements just bullshit? What's a build recommended to next gen stuff at medium settings at least?
$1000 budget
1080p monitor bought for $90 thanks to microcenter
End of year deadline
Maybe overclocking
Thanks!
NoRéN;87983389 said:Dudes, need some advice. Basically, how do I explain to someone that it's ok to build a new PC right now?
My sister recently got back into gaming. Since she missed all of this gen she wants a gaming pc to play everything for cheap. However, she wants the pc to be able to play some next gen stuff too. with that said, the biggest worry for her is that she's been reading game pc requirements and can't comprehend how a game like BF4 can differ so much from COD Ghosts. Basically, she doesn't want a pc that is great but still can't run next gen games.
I mentioned how PC-thread folks seem unbothered by all this and you all have done me no wrong.
So, how do I explain all this? Are the excessive cpu requirements just bullshit? What's a build recommended to next gen stuff at medium settings at least?
$1000 budget
1080p monitor bought for $90 thanks to microcenter
End of year deadline
Maybe overclocking
Thanks!
Hey guys. Any chance one of you could have a look at a build I put together on PCPartPicker? I basically tried to follow Hazaro's guide ("great - best value" build) and Logical Increments ("superb") with a few changes where I couldn't find the part or felt an up- or downgrade was more appropriate for me.
Current specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 260 (almost 5 years old, I think)
Budget: No hard budget, but given what I have put together, I don't think I really want to spend more than £700. But if there's a sensible upgrade that takes me to, say, £750, I might not mind. (I'm in the UK, if that's not clear.)
Main use: Gaming and general use. I've been happily gaming with my current PC for a number of years now, so that might demonstrate that I'm not overly demanding. I do want this PC to last, though, and play pretty much anything at decent frame rates.
Monitor resolution: Currently 1680x1050 (20"), but I may want to upgrade to 22" or 24" with this new PC (so probably 1920x1080).
Games I'd like to run well: Probably Battlefield 4, since that's one of the few big games coming out that I would really like to play (and I don't think I'll buy a new console until at least next spring). BF3 already wasn't very playable on my current PC, so I know there probably isn't much chance BF4 would work. I'm happy with 30FPS, and while some of the fancier stuff like PhysX is nice, it's not required. (I tried PhysX with Batman Arkham Asylum and Borderlands 2, I think, which was mostly fine but not worth the occasional drop in framerate.)
Reusing any parts?: No, since they are all quite old.
When will you build?: Now, but I've been thinking about this and picking parts and so on for a while, so there's no rush.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably not.
A few specific questions:
- Is it worth the extra £30 or so to upgrade the CPU from 4570 to 4670?
- I couldn't find the power supplies listed by the guides (or they were out of stock). Is the one I picked any good? I was looking for a modular one, since I feel that might be worth the slightly higher price.
I can't seem them doing much, they'll likely just eek out the lifespan of what we have now.
NoRéN;87983389 said:Dudes, need some advice. Basically, how do I explain to someone that it's ok to build a new PC right now?
My sister recently got back into gaming. Since she missed all of this gen she wants a gaming pc to play everything for cheap. However, she wants the pc to be able to play some next gen stuff too. with that said, the biggest worry for her is that she's been reading game pc requirements and can't comprehend how a game like BF4 can differ so much from COD Ghosts. Basically, she doesn't want a pc that is great but still can't run next gen games.
I mentioned how PC-thread folks seem unbothered by all this and you all have done me no wrong.
So, how do I explain all this? Are the excessive cpu requirements just bullshit? What's a build recommended to next gen stuff at medium settings at least?
$1000 budget
1080p monitor bought for $90 thanks to microcenter
End of year deadline
Maybe overclocking
Thanks!
Well at the end I decided to go with the GV-N770OC-4GD, add an SSD 840 evo, WD 1TB (3,5) and add another 8 GB RAM. I really hope that my X4 965 will resist the upcoming months until I buy a new MB and CPU
If I do a fresh install of Windows 8 on my SSD it won't delete files on my secondary HDD right?
Naw, you're good. I still access my old Local Drive HDD after installing Windows 8 on my SSD. In fact, I changed the Library directories to those on my old drive, and it works perfectly.
Thanks. If I lose all my pictures, I'm blaming you!
Thank you, it worked! I upgraded to Win 8.1 for BF4 but ran into the framework 2.5 problem that I'm learning is quite common. I had to reinstall. Everything working. Thanks!!!
Just keep it imo. I have my old HX520W in the shop as a test unit.So for how long do you guys consider it safe sticking to one PSU? I never really considered switching for safety reasons, as I have yet to have a single PSU die on me. I think mine might be getting kinda old, but I honestly don't have any good frame of reference. I have a Corsair HX620W which is presumably quite a well built PSU, but it's about 5-6 years old now, so the warranty ran out some time ago. Should I bother switching it out? Kinda blew my most of my budget on a GTX780 so if I do switch it out it would be for something relatively cheap like a CoolerMaster Silent Pro M II 520W. But I'd rather not spend any more money unless I have to. :F
I'd suggest an HX850, X850, or V850 (If you don't mind the stiff cables). The V should be the best out of all of them, but all of them are outstanding.I have a 600 watt Silverstone Strider (rated Silver but almost Gold according to PCPER). I want a second 770GTX to run SLI. Whats the PSU I should get to do this?
Anyone know Micro Center's return policy? If I had an unopened product but no receipt, would they likely give me store credit?
I would try it with a different HDD (or SSD). If it still crashes, and you're sure it's not a software problem, I would assume it's the mobo most likely. But maybe someone has other suggestions.
If you signed up for their e-mail list at checkout they should have your receipt on file.
I'm not sure if they can look it up otherwise.
It was a gift.
i wouldnt hold my breath. but you can always call them and explain and see what they say....
For a $1000 you could easily build a machine that will play every current/next-gen console game at 1080p with better framerates than the console versions. And in a mini-ITX case if you want.
The recommendations are not bullshit however the devs are playing it a bit safe. Remember that both new consoles have 8 core x64 processors so you should expect devs to recommend at least 4 core processors.
The good news is that the 4 core processors you can buy today are way better than the 4 core processors that used to be on the market. You could buy a Core i5 4670K or play it safe with a Core i7 4770K and be totally fine for a good long while. Just remember that with whatever you buy you can replace a graphics card with ease but the CPU will need a new motherboard and possibly new RAM.
Thanks for the input, everyone. Had to wait for her to be online(australia time) and just linked her to this page. Easier than having to relate the info myself and definitely want to build this year then.4 Core CPU recommendations are no big deal, really, and what I would have expected with the new gen. There was only one recommended settings list so far that seemed excessive to me and that was for Watch Dogs. They specifically recommended an i7 but who knows what kind of technical mess that game was in prior to its delay. That being said you can fit an i7 in to a $1000 budget.
This is my current PC. It's been great--so far, there have only been a few games I haven't been able to play on decent settings. It's definitely feeling its age, though:
Video: MSI GeForce GTX 260 Twin Frozr OC
Memory: OCZ Gold 8GB DDR3-1333
CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.66GHZ
Motherboard: Gigabyte P55A-UD3P ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI GBLAN CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA3 Motherboard
PSU: Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan
I'd love to put a new video card in it, but am worried my CPU/MB/RAM is going to be a bottleneck. I do a lot of animation work, so a faster CPU and RAM wouldn't hurt, but I'm not sure what practical implications a new CPU and RAM would have in terms of graphical performance. Thoughts? Realistically, do I need to do a complete overhaul, or is the GPU going to be the only really relevant hardware?
One card OCs better.Running a GTX 460 SLI setup and I've wondered this for awhile...any particular reason why in SLI I can maybe get 830 core and a bit over 2000 memory if I'm lucky, and with my one 460 I can get well over 900/2100 without it going insane?
You could try the Corsair RM series.I posted my system a few months ago. Unfortunately, I ran into some issues with my power supply (coil whine). It was the:
I'm writing to this thread again; as I've finally agreed with Canada Computers to give me store credit (as it's been stuck in their RMA process for 2 months; with no end in sight). I wanted to know if anyone had any new suggestions for a replacement?
- Seasonic Platinum-660 Fully Modular 80PLUS 660W PSU
Sizing may be an issue; as the case is a BitFenix Prodigy (I know a few power supplies will not fit). I'd like to keep it modular; to reduce cabling. I also want something as quiet as possible. Here are some additional details for the system:
Key components:
Additional:
- ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VI IMPACT Socket 1150 Intel Z87
- Intel Core i5-4670K - Socket LGA1150, 3.4Ghz
- MSI GeForce GTX 770 Twin Frozr 3 2GB GDDR5
- G.Skill 16GB (2 x 8GB PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - 10-10-10-30) - RipjawsX Series
As always, thanks! I can't wait to finally use my new computer (after 2 months of this bullshit)!
- Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s SSD
- WD10EZEX 1TB
- Corsair Hydro Series H60 2013 Liquid CPU Cooler
- ASUS (DRW-24B3ST)
- Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit English OEM
If you do a lot of animation work then I would go for a full upgrade. What's your budget? You could get away with just CPU, Mobo and video card. Your RAM would carry over fine until you feel you need to get faster stuff.
One card OCs better.
Plus more load on PSU/Mobo can muck with power delivery.
You could try the Corsair RM series.
I'd say the whine problems were mainly a thing from the Seasonic X platform (also Corsair AX) which was the best Gold unit at the time. I don't think you can apply it to all PSUs.Thanks Hazaro; this looks like a good choice. At least, it seems to be marketed as aimed towards avoiding coil whine.
I've heard that it's best to avoid Platinum and Gold efficiency; as they are prone to more noise. Any truth to that?
Also, would this specific one be a good choice for my system:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_443&item_id=063128
The dimensions look identical to the one I replaced; but the cables were crammed with the Seasonic in the Prodigy case.
Cheers!
Dimension 150 x 86 x 160mm
It's possible there will be an alright deal on a CPU/Mobo combo. RAM usually is one thign that does go on sale, but that's not a bad deal at all (even if it isn't low profile).Tempted to order my motherboard and ram right now. Screw the possibilities of black friday/cyber monday. I don't think there will be any big sales on the motherboard, and the ram seems like a great deal, it's this g-skill ripjaw x-series 8gb (2x4) for $63
That's true, I was going to hold off on the 4770k because I'm pretty confident that will have a deal of some sort. In that case I'll just wait on the RAM. There's a couple low profile ones I like better which I could get for ~$75 right now but they will probably have something better as well.It's possible there will be an alright deal on a CPU/Mobo combo. RAM usually is one thign that does go on sale, but that's not a bad deal at all (even if it isn't low profile).