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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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No get the GeForce GTX 780 LIGHTNING
Read the Introduction and Specs.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013..._780_lightning_video_card_review#.Un_Oc_k4UfY
$514.99 after rebate, so your paying only $15 more then the normal price for the best GTX 780 card available as of now.
What a beauty.
How does waiting for a G-sync monitor = not getting a 1080p resolution?
Your confused take a nap.
The middle fan on that thing does nothing but make noise.
Get any other brand
I have over 70 computers deployed at my work using that very i3 3220 processor. Not particularly impressed for basic business applications, much less gaming. If you look around, you should be able to find a solid i5 instead for around the same price point, especially with all the Black Friday sales right around the corner. The 2500K has been discontinued, but I'm sure if you look you can find a bargain one somewhere.
dorkimoe
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One fan means avoiding MSI? Hardly. This is perfectly fine, and in fact, quite amazing unto itself:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIH8OOQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
One of my two computers at home has the 680 GTX TF - it's legit. For most people a standard EVGA reference card is perfectly sufficient, but this is about as good as you can get without waterblocking your GPU. And MSI does a perfectly fine job on their gear.
dorkimoe
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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/58...gb-overclocked-video-card-review/index22.html
seems pretty quiet here? unless im reading that wrong. i really dont know
You'll get a bunch of different opinions on this, but I'd just like to throw this one into the ring for consideration, assuming you have a ventilated case:
EVGA ACX FTW
The other non-ftw options are also good, but this has fast clocks at a similar price with 0 tinkering required. The ACX cooler is really excellent (I maybe shouldn't have bought a windforce!)
dorkimoe
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giving me more to choose from IS NOT HELPING! 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
this is my case
i dont plan on doing any tinkering with the card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
this is my case
i dont plan on doing any tinkering with the card
giving me more to choose from IS NOT HELPING!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
this is my case
i dont plan on doing any tinkering with the card
Im going to recommend EVGA because I use them and all the other computers I build for anyone use them. The ACX coolers on par or better for cooling with the other 2 fan cooler types. They also have excellent customer service.
I would just avoid the MSI Lightning specifically the other ones they make are fine.
The EVGA superclocked fancy version is the Classified. Here is one review with the temps/noise
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,9.html
Here is the same reviewer on the MSI Lightning
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_780_lightning_review,10.html
EVGA Classified is 4c lower at load than the MSI Lightning.
They are basically the same dBa.
demosthenes
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theSlacker
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Also something;
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_780_gaming_review,8.html
Another MSI 780 that has been out longer, is less expensive, makes less nose and is cooler, and test higher. I gotta be missing something since I don't see why poeple would get the lightning version with this out if this is all actuate.
Doesn't look too bad at all. How much are you wanting to spend? You could get an i5/7870 combo for under CA$700:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.00 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($78.93 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($174.00 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.13 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $696.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 16:54 EST-0500)
If you removed the DVD drive it would only be $10 more than your original build
dorkimoe
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Lightning version is factory OC'ed afaik
theSlacker
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Mother fucker, disregard what I said about testing higher. Was looking at the last, light bluish, bar on both of them, and on the MSI "Gaming" one, it is a titan, when on the "Lightning" and "Classified" it is the card itself.
Yeah, which is what was confusing me, but was just my retardery.
You might want to see if you get the free games when you order from Amazon. AC4, Batman, and Splinter Cell are pretty decent games for free, or you could sell them to make it a little cheaper.
Parapraxis
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How does this build look so far (MOBO, RAM & Case are already purchased)
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/20inN
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/20inN
Pretty nice. You don't need the thermal paste as the 212 comes with a little tube of it included which is pretty much as good. If you want to save a little you also don't need a 650W PSU like that - either of these one would do for you:
- XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
- Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX)
sp3ctr3
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thanks for the suggestions.
tomorrow I will try and update the bios and reset the cmos. If all else fails I will reinstall Windows 7.
If that doesnt fix it, I'm building a new pc and set this one on fire!
CreepingFear
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Right now, I'm debating whether to get the EVGA 780ti Classified ACX 3GB version or to wait and see if there really is going to be a 6GB black version and how much it will cost. I already canceled the PS4 and Xbox One. There are no games I want to play from both the next gen consoles for now.
Any recommendations on an IPS panel monitor 23/24 inch, budget is around £150 - not much to work with I know but wanting to see what's good for the price point.
EDIT: response to gilljoy, i'd recommend looking at zowie mice if you like simplicity, using EC2 EVO and it's an all round solid, accurate tracking mouse.
EDIT: response to gilljoy, i'd recommend looking at zowie mice if you like simplicity, using EC2 EVO and it's an all round solid, accurate tracking mouse.
LG do some great stuff in that price range, and I think there is a Dell that might just slip in there too.
Thursday War
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So I'm trying to decide whether to get a PS4 or a PC... PS4 has Destiny and a few other exclusives and most of my friends are getting one, while the PC has games like Civ V and I can run games without any problems at max settings. If I decide to go the PC route, I want to do it the right way, so I made a PCPartPicker list, and I'm hoping a fellow gaffer can give me some advice on my first build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($11.93 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $724.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 21:26 EST-0500)
I prefer that the system stay under $750.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($11.93 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $724.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 21:26 EST-0500)
I prefer that the system stay under $750.
HarryDemeanor
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I'm wondering the same. I'm working within a budget of $150-180. I want to upgrade from this 20-inch monitor I've been using for 4 years.
Sir Abacus
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I saw Gsync up close at the NV booth at Blizzcon this weekend.
Mother of god it's the best thing to happen to PC gaming ever.
The NV guys also said next month we can buy the DIY kits on nvidia.com.
Mother of god it's the best thing to happen to PC gaming ever.
The NV guys also said next month we can buy the DIY kits on nvidia.com.
Doesn't look too bad at all. How much are you wanting to spend? You could get an i5/7870 combo for under CA$700:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.00 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($78.93 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($174.00 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.13 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $696.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 16:54 EST-0500)
If you removed the DVD drive it would only be $10 more than your original build
I'm quite limited with budget with 700$ maximum. The PCPartPicker estimates can be misleading since they often don't include shipping/taxes. I'm trying to get free shipping for everything so I'm a bit limited in terms of outlets.
I think I might stick with the i3-3220. It's going to be used for gaming but nothing too intensive and probably not at 1080p.
If you buy at Microcenter you can get a much better Intel i5 procesor and motherboard instead of the FX 6300.
Thursday War
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For how much extra?
EDIT:
Made a list w/ an Intel CPU
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($103.96 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: CoolMax 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $787.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 22:00 EST-0500)
The only scenario where I would get this is if the prices went significantly down. Otherwise, I think I might stick with an AMD CPU. It works good so why bother?
demosthenes
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Do we know the extent of what we need to use the DIY?
Sir Abacus
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VG248QE monitor, rip the back off, replace the scaler board with Gsync module, put the back on.
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
So this right here is costing you $217.95.
For around $35 more bucks you can get an i5 4670k and an MSI Z87. Just use the stock cooler for now. It's a better option with more headroom for expansion later and better performance now.
Personally, I would cut a bit somewhere else to make up for it if you need to make up the $35 somewhere. Either ditching the DVD drive for now or going with something like a Radeon 7950 for a few bucks less.
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx
Faster i5 processor with motherboard for $50 less than that at Microcenter.
FLUXCapacitor
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I would like some opinions on upgrading my current set up. Given a $400 budget what would you do with this system? (you can include any upcoming black Friday deals and also the selling of old parts towards new ones)...
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor: Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
Video card: GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor: Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
Video card: GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80
Thursday War
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $798.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 22:17 EST-0500)
:/
demosthenes
Member
Ah, waiting for a G-Sync then.
That's why I asked if you have a Microcenter by you. That bundle at NewEgg is $75 cheaper.
Thursday War
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Motherboard, ram and power supply are all still good. I would do this:
Processor:
Ivy Bridge i5 3570k $189
For videocard either a 7950 or 7970 on the Radeon side $230-$300 or a Geforce 760 or 770 $200- $330. Selling your old CPU and GPU should get you the extra $100 needed for the better videocard pretty easily.
A Sentient Keyboard
Member
I was planning to use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO in my first PC build, since it seems to be an effective, inexpensive and popular HSF. However, when I checked the official site, I noticed this under 'specs':
Apparently, the version of the 212 EVO I can buy here in the Netherlands is limited to 1600 rpm max instead of 2000 rpm, which means less airflow and pressure. Now, I've got a few questions about this:
1. Does this significantly hamper it's performance?
2. Is there a way to (safely, easily) override this limit?
3. Is this still a recommended HSF? If not, what are some good alternatives in the same price range? For reference, I'm planning to buy the Intel i5 4670K, and probably will overclock it a little in the future. My case (Corsair 500R) is supposed to have good airflow.
Apparently, the version of the 212 EVO I can buy here in the Netherlands is limited to 1600 rpm max instead of 2000 rpm, which means less airflow and pressure. Now, I've got a few questions about this:
1. Does this significantly hamper it's performance?
2. Is there a way to (safely, easily) override this limit?
3. Is this still a recommended HSF? If not, what are some good alternatives in the same price range? For reference, I'm planning to buy the Intel i5 4670K, and probably will overclock it a little in the future. My case (Corsair 500R) is supposed to have good airflow.
Ah, no I don't have a Microcenter anywhere near me..
Well what about this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1476959
That puts you at $230 for motherboard and processor after the rebate, which is only $13 more than the AMD. You don't get a "K' processor to overclock, but I think it might be a worthwhile compromise. You'd also have a motherboard with a better upgrade path for the future.
Thursday War
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($167.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($113.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $755.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-10 22:53 EST-0500)
For some reason , PCPP doesn't recognize the deal.
Probably have to go through NewEgg. It's a combo deal when you buy the CPU and Motherboard together listed under CPU+Motherboard Combos section. It knowcks $65 off plus has a $35 rebate.
Does the link not work for you?
Thursday War
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The link does work for me. I think it's just an issue with PCPP.
Are the FX Series CPU's frowned upon around here? I'm building a new PC and I'm looking at purchasing the FX-8350. I understand the current Intel CPU's are unanimously better, but is it a huge difference? I'm looking to save some cash where I can to put it towards a much better GPU. Any comments?
That fine and sensible. The GPU is the core component that you want to invest in for games, if you can save money with the 8350 so that you can move up a tier in gfx cards you will be happy you did it if gaming is your main draw.
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