i've got some old, slow hard drives that i should have replaced 4-5 years ago, but are still being used. much to slow to still be used for important things. i'm wondering if i should go SSD and just use them for storage, hybrid drive, or just go with a large hard drive. SSDs are really appealing even though the prices aren't the greatest
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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Okay guys, last issue and I'm golden (for now). MY PC isn't recognizing any headphone plugged into it, nor is it recognizing the speakers of the TV I currently have it plugged into. It must be a wiring mix-up but I'm not sure where.
Are you going into the Playback Devices and choosing the correct output when you right click on the speaker icon on the taskbar?
Good to hear, glad you like it. Though people complain that it's a tad large for ITX, it's still much smaller than standard mid-towers. But, it's not difficult to build in and can accommodate just about any part out there (outside of 2.5 slot cooler cards). Don't know what color you chose, but the white/orange/green version has that SofTouch material on the front that feels soooooooo good.
Are your audio drivers installed?
Front panel or motherboard audio? My recently finished build case (HAF 912) front audio just don't work. I need to try AC97 because the HD audio plug just doesn't work.
So a electrical surge killed my last PSU....I bought a new one and suddenly everything was heating to crazy high temps and new PSU starts making high pitched screeching noises....so I assume at the very least my PSU and motherboard are dead, likely the GPU as well....so should RAM and Harddrive still be salvageable?
Also should I just blindly follow the first page guide if I want a new comp for around $400? I have a windows DVD install.
EDIT: If I were to follow the guide in the OP, which component should I bump up if I were to bump up only one in the $450 column?
Also should I just blindly follow the first page guide if I want a new comp for around $400? I have a windows DVD install.
EDIT: If I were to follow the guide in the OP, which component should I bump up if I were to bump up only one in the $450 column?
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Yep.
Both, as far as I can tell.
Edit: All right...the sound inexplicably kicked in after installing a GPU driver. I'm glad it fixed itself, but why?
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Does vsync actually keep the gpu cooler?
I read somewhere, forgot where, that the gpu works harder whenever there are more framerates. Turning on vsync would cap it at 60fps making the gpu work less harder.
Is there any truth to this?
I read somewhere, forgot where, that the gpu works harder whenever there are more framerates. Turning on vsync would cap it at 60fps making the gpu work less harder.
Is there any truth to this?
That's right. If you have an nVidia gpu you can limit fps in evga tuner for similar effect without the cons of vsync (some notice input lag) but may still get some screen tearing.
The effect is more pronounced the higher your fps are when uncapped compared to your refresh rate. You'll see that the GPU is working at less than 100% to reach your vsync fps which will result in lower temps.
nice build. but if you can, buy an h87 mb, so you can use turbo boost. I dont know if haswell are different in this.regard, but with ivy you could not use boost on b75 motherboards.
Ps: im from italy, too
che negozio stai usando per comprare componenti? perché io su trova Prezzi la 2 70 x l'ho vista anche a 160/70.
Well if you want to make a future proof pc, go for intel like other people said. Dolphin emulation is not that good on x4.
Ps sorry for double posts, but its a pain and i am on mobile
So on Tuesday my new graphics card and case came in. I went from a Radeon HD 5570 to a MSI GTX 770 (holy shit this card is big).
Lord above, the difference between the cards is amazing. All my life I've had to move those sliders down to "low". Now I can just mash everything to high and it works wonderfully. I can finally play BF4 properly. I saw a friend's footage of what BF4 was like for him and mine looked like it was broken at that god awful 20fps. Now though, everything is good. So smooth! Blurring when I turn to look; amazing! Lol
Also the the new case (Fractal Design R4) is a great case. It dwarfs my previous one, and it actually makes me feel ashamed for having that previous case. I really like how the interior is laid out as well.
Now I just need an SSD and a good monitor. In due time though I suppose.
Lord above, the difference between the cards is amazing. All my life I've had to move those sliders down to "low". Now I can just mash everything to high and it works wonderfully. I can finally play BF4 properly. I saw a friend's footage of what BF4 was like for him and mine looked like it was broken at that god awful 20fps. Now though, everything is good. So smooth! Blurring when I turn to look; amazing! Lol
Also the the new case (Fractal Design R4) is a great case. It dwarfs my previous one, and it actually makes me feel ashamed for having that previous case. I really like how the interior is laid out as well.
Now I just need an SSD and a good monitor. In due time though I suppose.
LeeRoyBrown
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Thanks for the feedback, however I think you miss read my space issues. I prefer the look of the Prodigy, what I mean is I have MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM in my house. The fractal is nice, but it kind of bores me
It's just a plain black box.I really appreciate the PSU help though as I understand fuck all about them, I just figured I may need it in case I upgrade, clearly not I guess.
The Seasonic 620W was something I was looking at so that helps me I guess.
Is a 750 still overkill with an Asus mITX impact mobo and an i7?
Also, is 16GB a total waste of time?
Also, what is the cheapest miniITX mobo I can get that gives me wireless, overclock ability while being cheap?
nice build. but if you can, buy an h87 mb, so you can use turbo boost. I dont know if haswell are different in this.regard, but with ivy you could not use boost on b75 motherboards.
Ps: im from italy, too
che negozio stai usando per comprare componenti? perché io su trova Prezzi la 2 70 x l'ho vista anche a 160/70.
Ehilà! ^^
I'm using eKey.it for parts and Amazon.it for the case (as eKey shipping costs are related to weight, while on Amazon I'll get free shippings).
For the GPU, mainly I want to stick with Nvidia for several reasons, so whatever.
For the motherboard, as suggested before, on my latest build I replaced the B85 with a Z87, that supports both Boost and K series CPU.
Namely AsRock Z87 Pro3, which has decent reviews on Newegg and costs just 10 more than the cheaper H87 ATX I can find on eKey.
LeeRoyBrown
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ASUS 290X Review Direct CU II
AMD 290 + 290X are cheaper than their Nvida counterparts, cooler, use less power and can mine coins faster.
I can taste those fucking salty Nvidia tears, it's delicious!
Loving these price wars, yes nvidia keep dropping those prices....just before I buy my rig...yes
YES!
AMD 290 + 290X are cheaper than their Nvida counterparts, cooler, use less power and can mine coins faster.
I can taste those fucking salty Nvidia tears, it's delicious!
Loving these price wars, yes nvidia keep dropping those prices....just before I buy my rig...yes
YES!
Thanks for the feedback, however I think you miss read my space issues. I prefer the look of the Prodigy, what I mean is I have MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM in my house. The fractal is nice, but it kind of bores me
I really appreciate the PSU help though as I understand fuck all about them, I just figured I may need it in case I upgrade, clearly not I guess.
The Seasonic 620W was something I was looking at so that helps me I guess.
Is a 750 still overkill with an Asus mITX impact mobo and an i7?
Also, is 16GB a total waste of time?
Also, what is the cheapest miniITX mobo I can get that gives me wireless, overclock ability while being cheap?
The Gigabyte ITX motherboard is great value and can sometimes be found for close to $100.
16 gigs is a total waste unless you are producing media content for a living/hobby.
750 is a total waste on any ITX system Because no single gpu system could pull even close to that much power. Even a Titan or 290 with a buttload of hard drives and a healthy overclock wouldn't max out that 620 (or even a 550). You only need a 750 or higher if you are doing multigpu setups. Which are basically impossible on ITX.
You could have just posted the review and left out all the cringe-worthy fanboy stuff, man.
EDIT: Oh wow, are the reference designs really *that* bad?
LeGourmand
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So still no update on my order for my GTX 770, seems it got lost or something either by UPS or NCIX.
I'm starting to want a refund and get something else.
I'm wondering what i should get for 400 Canadian $ or less
This is what i was getting http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3774-KR i dont know much about GPU, so it was probably not such a good deal, but whatever can i get something similar or better?
I'm starting to want a refund and get something else.
I'm wondering what i should get for 400 Canadian $ or less
This is what i was getting http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3774-KR i dont know much about GPU, so it was probably not such a good deal, but whatever can i get something similar or better?
I'm in the market for a mobo as well. So I second this.
Are you wanting to stick to Nvidia? Newegg.ca has the Sapphire 280X Toxic at the top end of your budget http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...57534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA
LeGourmand
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I'm not mad at Nvidia, but yeah i'll keep that one in mind, performance seems to be similar. Anyways i can't afford right now to buy a new one before getting a refund first so I guess i'm stuck with onboard video for a while. I think my friend got an old card, can't remember what it is. At what point would the on board be better the the old GPU?
WhirlwindMonk
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Just put in my order for new parts! Thanks to Hazaro for all the useful recommendations in the OP and to the people who answered the couple questions I had earlier in the thread.
Picked up this gear: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/29DOb
Plus I ordered a monitor and SSD for my wife (the monitor as an exchange for me getting this stuff and the SSD is a Christmas gift). Hoping to have everything Saturday so I can started on my first upgrade in three years! Does this thread like pictures of finished builds?
Picked up this gear: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/29DOb
Plus I ordered a monitor and SSD for my wife (the monitor as an exchange for me getting this stuff and the SSD is a Christmas gift). Hoping to have everything Saturday so I can started on my first upgrade in three years! Does this thread like pictures of finished builds?
Smutpeddler
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Just a quick question, am I ok using the g3220 as a place holder for my budget build? I am using the z87 chipset and a R9 270x. Holidays are killing my wallet and everything I have read says that it is a strong budget CPU.
290 runs hotter, louder, and draw more power than nvidia
It is yeah. What price is the stuff you're looking at?
Nice!
280X is the equivalent of the 770, fairly closely matched. I'm surprised that card is in stock at that price with the coin mining craze.
Smutpeddler
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Hey kharma, the board is coming in at about 100 US dollars. I am getting a SSD at about 90. 120gb Samsung. THe gpu is coming in at about 210 and the g3220 would be about 68.
You could save $30 or so on the GPU side by getting a 270 over the 270X. The only difference between the two is clock speed.
Smutpeddler
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Well in that case would you step up the CPU or keep the placeholder until I can swing an i5?
Yeah I spent a very long time weighing that, and in the end I just decided in favor of making the tradeoff of a larger footprint in favor of flexibility and cooling. I actually picked the black one for increased airflow (since I'll be using a windowed side panel instead of the stock mesh one). It still feels pleasantly solid for a mesh faceplate, unlike on some other cases I've owned where you're afraid you might dent it in.
The one thing that is going to grate on me after a while though, is that 5.25" bay. I kind of would have preferred if they offered a front face plate without it, because now I feel compelled to have *something* there. Yet I use a 5.25" optical drive once per build, and then it collects dust. And I typically connect my fans to the motherboard, so a fan controller wouldn't be useful either. I might put a drive toaster in there just as a placeholder, and because I can't think of anything more useful atm.
Just bought a Corsair Force GS 240 GB SSD. I believe one of my two current RAID 0 60GB SSDs is failing. System reboots on the daily now and IRST reports Drive 1 always failing. Been reading and SSDs seem to fail a lot after 1-2 years. I don't think I'm going to RAID this configuration. I'm thinking the RAID 0 is writing a lot to the current SSD and making it fail over time. The newer higher capacity one means it won't have to write over the same sectors so many times correct? Or my current SSDs could be fine and it could be the MB. Who knows? Am I crazy?
Take a gander here: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g34/Bay_Devices.html?mv_pc=1562
The Asus DCUII 290X is cooler, quieter, cheaper, and faster than the 780 and Titan?
Yes, generally speaking a higher capacity SSD has more areas to reallocate to than a small one but it depends on how much the manufacturer has provisioned for this.
Your motherboard shouldn't be killing off the drive but it's possible that with RAID 0 the drive may suffer from write amplification as RAID arrays currently do not support TRIM.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Thanks. That's good to know. I'll try that.
Krauser Kat
Member
Hey guys,
My cousin wants a gaming pc that can run ARMAIII pretty well. Unfortunately all i have is a
case
500gb HD
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
maybe 4gb of ddr3 ram ( i have 20gb in my system but havent upgraded to pro to use it all)
and 700 dollars
(i got the case and the money on the 18th)
I have to have it build by sunday too.
what i am thinking is
3570K or 3570 with a non OC mobo
8gb Ram
Then whatever else i have on the GPU. probably a R270
My cousin wants a gaming pc that can run ARMAIII pretty well. Unfortunately all i have is a
case
500gb HD
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
maybe 4gb of ddr3 ram ( i have 20gb in my system but havent upgraded to pro to use it all)
and 700 dollars
(i got the case and the money on the 18th)
I have to have it build by sunday too.
what i am thinking is
3570K or 3570 with a non OC mobo
8gb Ram
Then whatever else i have on the GPU. probably a R270
Wish I'd never bothered to build a PC for someone now. I was quite unprepared for the headaches that would lie ahead Thought I had everything sorted but just tried to switch it on and nothing:
The blue light on the power button is lit but when I press it nothing happens. Do I just need to check all the wires inside? Maybe knocked something loose while hooking up the PSU?
Thought I had everything sorted but just tried to switch it on and nothing:
The blue light on the power button is lit but when I press it nothing happens. Do I just need to check all the wires inside? Maybe knocked something loose while hooking up the PSU?
Krauser Kat
Member
Chicago, I have a microcenter right by my apartment. my current cart is
at 682
4670K
Z87 MSI
500W Inland
760 Gtx
8gb 1600 ddr3.
I can maybe give him my ram and save money. Problem is i may or may not have a Win 7 from an old laptop that could kill the whole thing. If i give my ram ill money to squeeze out a win 7 serial if i have to. But im already giving him my spare 1080p monitor and keyboard and mouse and my old hd that i just switched out this month.
at 682
4670K
Z87 MSI
500W Inland
760 Gtx
8gb 1600 ddr3.
I can maybe give him my ram and save money. Problem is i may or may not have a Win 7 from an old laptop that could kill the whole thing. If i give my ram ill money to squeeze out a win 7 serial if i have to. But im already giving him my spare 1080p monitor and keyboard and mouse and my old hd that i just switched out this month.
Do you need to buy everything at microcenter?
Also, motherboard and cpu are not compatible.
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