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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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NinjaCatfish
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I believe you have to change a setting to change between Offset and a static voltage. Offset allows you to keep the whole low/high power modes that came with the Sandy Bridge and newer CPUs. If you set a non-changing voltage then it'll be like that permanently, and you lose out on the power saving stuff.
I can't remember what the setting is called though, sorry.
Awww Okay, thank you. But I wanted a full tower so it would all fit, I've seen how tight of a fit graphics cards fit inside of a mid. I get so lost on the parts so thank you for helping.
You'll have no issue fitting any single GPU into something like the R4. $80 atm for one. With the R4 you can remove the drive cage in the middle and give yourself loads of room like so
Absolutely no need for a full tower unless you're doing a proper water cooled set up
But not my much, the only way to really save from a 3570K would be to go for an 8320, it's around $60-70 cheaper than the i5 http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffi...pn=FD8320FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1052
I don't think the option is there, I couldn't find it with my Pro 3.
I will never use a 60hz monitor again.
For your concerns, it is right up your alley. Do it. Except, get the ASUS 144hz or the upcoming BenQ 144Hz.
GAF, if I get a GTX 660 2GB, what kind of performance can I expect with my current hardware?
CPU: Core i5 3450 (3.1GHz)
MB: Intel DH61BE
RAM: 8GB DDR3
PSU: Thermaltake TR2 430W
I'm guessing all I'd need to upgrade is my PSU after I get the card. My max resolution is 1600x900, but I'd also be playing on my 720p projector from time to time.
Would I be able to run most games pretty decently?
CPU: Core i5 3450 (3.1GHz)
MB: Intel DH61BE
RAM: 8GB DDR3
PSU: Thermaltake TR2 430W
I'm guessing all I'd need to upgrade is my PSU after I get the card. My max resolution is 1600x900, but I'd also be playing on my 720p projector from time to time.
Would I be able to run most games pretty decently?
Good performance, that CPU won't hold you back in most games at that resolution. 660 will do nicely. PSU will be fine too.
Still struggling whether I need an upgrade now to GTX 660 from a 9800 GT or wait until the next graphics cards are out.
I don't want to spend money when I know that Direct X 11.2 is coming out soon.
Tiled resources is going to be huge.
edit: Oh, so Direct X11 cards can run 11.2 at least according to the BUILD presentation. Hm. Upgrade now I suppose.
I don't want to spend money when I know that Direct X 11.2 is coming out soon.
Tiled resources is going to be huge.
edit: Oh, so Direct X11 cards can run 11.2 at least according to the BUILD presentation. Hm. Upgrade now I suppose.
Future PhaZe
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Define next gen cards
Because they are basically already here. Get a 780 and whenever you need to upgrade getting a second should pretty much do the trick.
SLI gives a lot of options now, no reason to wait.
Using shared memory pool from system RAM with GPU RAM. Some crazy tech right there although I was wondering before if it required a new graphics card line to do that.
I just watched the BUILD presentation, and the presenter said 11.2 works on Direct X 11 cards.
I have a 430 Watt setup, so I'm going to go with a GTX 660 as power consumption is important to me, and electricity will be more expensive in the future.
Also, SLI is not worth the headache nor the price + added points of failure. Expensive motherboard. More electricity. A higher wattage power supply. Two graphics cards. When one GPU fails, the whole thing BSODs.
Not really, but you don't want it much higher than that.
Not really, especially if you use the stock cooler.
Roland1979
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The BenQ XL2411T is 144Hz (and already on the market), even though they don't advertise it as such. Probably because it can't run 144Hz in 3D mode, "only" 120Hz. The BenQ should be slightly cheaper then the Asus and is not glossy, the Asus is. So aesthetics might influence his choice. I personally don't like glossy peripherals since they might distract.
It's skirting around the 75s right now, rarely jumps past 78 into 80.
I'm on a 212 evo at stock speed (3.4ghz) with those temps. Guess I should double check the 212 is installed properly.
SixStringPsycho
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Depends. If you're looking forward to gaming now but not the most high end stuff with medium settings go with the GPU first. If you want to wait to play better games later buy a good cpu. But remember if you want to use the same MB check the socket before buying a new cpu. If not uoill have to buy both a mobo and a cpu for it. Then buy a good GPU.
Personally I'd go with the GPU, you got a good CPU there to run most games. Check your mobo model specs. And see if it can accept PCIe and what version is it.
Also you can PM me
That monitor seems really nice. It doesn't seem to be IPS but it looks beautiful. It's $280.00 in american dollars at amazon.
nekroseven
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Just picked up the xl2420t. Was trying to decide between that and the vg248. Did I make the right decision!?
I get temps in that range on my 4770k with the same cooler and stock voltage during Prime95. Haswell is a hot chip.It's skirting around the 75s right now, rarely jumps past 78 into 80.
I'm on a 212 evo at stock speed (3.4ghz) with those temps. Guess I should double check the 212 is installed properly.
Roland1979
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You probably can't go wrong with either. So yours does come with a NVIDIA 3D kit? I have to buy that separately, but Steam sales left me broke and my wallet broken anyways.
Roland1979
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There will be a big difference in colors supposedly, compared to IPS monitors. Such is the price of performance I guess.
nekroseven
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Does not come with a kit but I didn't buy it for the 3d capabilities. I think I will try the 2d lightboost hack though.
Roland1979
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Yes the hack is better then manually activating 3D then switching to 2D every time you boot up a game. I didn't buy it for 3D either but maybe this will change your mind to at least try it? For multiplayer i will never use it but sp in 3D? I am tempted.
It's skirting around the 75s right now, rarely jumps past 78 into 80.
I'm on a 212 evo at stock speed (3.4ghz) with those temps. Guess I should double check the 212 is installed properly.
For stock speeds that does seem pretty high, although it's not worrisome yet. You could try remounting it: First clean everthing with alchohol/nailpolish remover and then apply a reasonably sized ball (~4mm, see the OP) of thermal paste to the middle of the cpu's headspreader and let the mounting pressure spread it out.
Refreshment.01
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Talkning about price/performance ratio and using Amazon as price reference:
An FX 6300:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YORK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Gigabyte 78lmt:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009FC3YJ8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Do anyone know of a better combination or has any comments regarding those components? Many thanks.
An FX 6300:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YORK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Gigabyte 78lmt:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009FC3YJ8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Do anyone know of a better combination or has any comments regarding those components? Many thanks.
AMD > Intel at their respective price ranges. For the 8350/8320 at least.
Nucl3arSnake
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PSU is 44 .
THERMALTAKE Commander MS-I VN40001W2Z 39.46.
COOLER MASTER RC-334U-KKN1 40.60 .
I also found BitFenix Merc Alpha 43. Can you recommend some good PSU?
What country are you in? What websites do you shop with for these components?
Get a better board. How far can you stretch?
Nucl3arSnake
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Sadly im in Serbia -.-'
This is the site
Code:
http://www.emmi.rs/naslovna_stranica.1.htmlRefreshment.01
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Hey Kharma thanks for dedicating me some time.
I don't know man, im already stretching, what kind of problem you see withh the board? Or which one would you suggest? Also im looking for advice on when would be a good time to upgrade, anything moving on the AMD front the next few months that might give opportunity for better deals?
How does this look price wise? http://www.emmi.rs/napajanja-i-doda...20w-seasonic-ss-520gb.11.html?productId=16814
Not the most modern unit but it is good quality.
It's just a very basic board, you'd be better off looking at the 970 and 990 boards. 970's around around the $80 mark and 990s $100. They'll give better overclocking results, and if you're going AMD you'll want to OC to alleviate the poor single threaded performance. You'll need to budget $20 or so for a Hyper 212 as well to do that.
AMD will have new CPUs out in the autumn time, probably October, and will still be using AM3+.
Refreshment.01
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I have the 212 plus. Coming from an MSI motherboard from 2009, im not sure how happy i am with what i got. Let's say i could stretch it to 80 for the board. Do you have a particular one in mind or at least a solid brand? I know MSi is good but maybe there are better alternatives.
maneil99
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can someone look at my overclocking thread here and try and help me out?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1409517/odd-overclocking-giving-me-ocd/10#post_20406749
http://www.overclock.net/t/1409517/odd-overclocking-giving-me-ocd/10#post_20406749
If you want to avoid MSI then I'd look to Gigabyte but that would take you over budget at $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
MSI G46 is $78 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0073JYZ48/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Biostar has one too but I've read about problems with regards to vdrop on it. Surprisingly little selection otherwise.
Haven't seen any EVGA boards around for Z87. For the mainstream the MSI G45 Gaming is the one to get.
So what's the news on AMD 9000?
I'm reading on anandtech's forums that it's out early in October, but is 28 nm because Apple is buying out all of the 20 nm production. Is that true? If so I guess we're looking at a performance bump but with a lot more power usage.
I'm reading on anandtech's forums that it's out early in October, but is 28 nm because Apple is buying out all of the 20 nm production. Is that true? If so I guess we're looking at a performance bump but with a lot more power usage.
First I've heard of that. Link?
Looks like a rumor still, not a lot of people invalidating it as fake. But performance expectations are unclear. Some think it's 25% bump, others something more substantial. This was supposed to be a major design bump, but I think they're releasing it early because there's no point in waiting for 20nm which won't be ready for mass production until Q3/Q4 2014 if you're not Apple or Qualcomm. We'll have to wait and see.
Symantec System Recovery or it's predecessor Norton Ghost. I've only used ghost and it's very difficult to understand at first.
Clonezilla for Linux.
Any Free options? Im only looking to do this once so Id rather not have to buy a program.
I would still go for an i5 at that price range.
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