SuperSonic1305
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At what point should I stop upgrading GPU and start worrying about CPU? I have an i7 930. Would it even be worth getting a modern card?
The LX isn't a great motherboard, but should be fine. Seems like an okay deal. I'm not too hot on that PSU though..
Bottlenecks aren't an either/or thing and exist on all parts for various reasons. Some games will have absolutely zero gain if you were to upgrade to a modern $1000 CPU from what you are currently using. Some games would benefit drastically.At what point should I stop upgrading GPU and start worrying about CPU? I have an i7 930. Would it even be worth getting a modern card?
It's a dead socket, so there isn't much to do on the CPU/motherboard end. I'd need a UK GAFer to confirm this, but buying a new PSU seems like it would drastically reduce the value of the PC, as it'd be ~680 instead of 600.Which upgrades would you recommend?
And it's currently on sale on Newegg for $70. I should stop reading this thread, my PC is turning into a black hole that sucks up all my money...
One more question though: DId you have to take the motherboard out of the case to switch fans, or was it possible to reach everything with it still mounted?
I'm having to send mine back to Ebuyer this weekWouldn't boot in mine or my friends PC
Have you got enough power? Most recent drivers?
The HDMI port on the video card is not making use of your motherboard's Realtek hardware for sound processing, that's all happening on the video card. So that doesn't actually let you know that the motherboard is okay.
I took it out but it's certainly possible to do while in (I probably should have just done it that way tbh) but you'd have to plug in the CPU fans before installing the heatsink... it's huge! no room to get your hands in to plug them in after it's installed.
I assume you're talking about the 970. I just downloaded the drivers from Nvidia today, and I have a 550w power supply, which I think should be more than enough.
Yeah, I was actually taking that as more evidence that it's a motherboard problem, but it gives me some hope that I could use some sort of external audio or maybe a soundcard as a workaround.
Yeah that one more issue, use an Intel NIC and it just works. No need to do any config, I've yet to see how these other NICs really do anything useful. A lot of builders tend to want to install and forget, so here I wouldn't recommend them if there is an alternative.
Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device and press a key
Great, so more issues. I tried to update the BIOS using the BIOS updater on the manufacturer website, and when my computer restarted, all I'm getting is
Code:Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device and press a key
I can go into the BIOS and see my SSD where Windows is installed and I still end up at the same screen...
I guess next step is to reinstall Windows? Will that format all my stuff?
I assume you're talking about the 970. I just downloaded the drivers from Nvidia today, and I have a 550w power supply, which I think should be more than enough.
Yeah, I was actually taking that as more evidence that it's a motherboard problem, but it gives me some hope that I could use some sort of external audio or maybe a soundcard as a workaround.
Try basics first.
Unplug all SATA devices. Use 1 stick of RAM. Remove GPU and use onboard. Remove anything that isn't required to POST. Reset CMOS either by jumper or removing CMOS battery (see manual). Seeing as fans may also be acting odd, unplug those expect the CPU fan.
I had almost the exact same problem and it ended up being bad ram. I would take out all the sticks except one and try booting up and then do the same for the other sticks.
This morning my ~2 month old computer suddenly stopped booting.
When I press the ON button on the case the LED surrounding it lights up for a couple seconds, turns off for a second, turns back on for a few seconds, etc.
Inside, the computer seems to be turning on but unable to boot. The rear fan doesn't turn on but the other 2 case fans and the CPU fans do turn on. They rev as if the computer is trying to boot but can't. Nothing appears on the monitor. This keeps going until I turn it off by pressing the power button on the case.
Case: Define R4
Board: Gigabyte z97x ud3h
fake edit: the past couple weeks the computer would go to sleep but later be unable to awake from sleep mode so I could have to do a hard reset. this is what happened today before it was unable to boot at all.
First post with my new PC! So far so good. Posted on the first try. The H220X wasn't too bad to install. Windows installed. drivers installed.
Thanks for the suggestions. I have 2x8 RAM so I swapped each in and out and tried to boot -- no luck.
This problem is incredibly frustrating because it seems like the problem could be ANY of my components (though intuitively I feel like the PSU or mobo may be the culprit). I'm at a point where I just want to take it to someone who can diagnose it for me -- any recommendations for tech support in the NYC area? MicroCenter?
(my original post if anyone else wants to chime in![]()
You guys think I could Sli 780's on a EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750B?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438007
I understand that I'll need to remove the hard drive cage in the R4 to make room for the 980, is that correct? So that means I have two spots for SSD drives on the case and two spots for other hard drives/optical drive in the top drive bay?
First post with my new PC! So far so good. Posted on the first try. The H220X wasn't too bad to install. Windows installed. drivers installed.
Why not? I want to see if it will blow up. Under full load it should only use around 620W.I wouldn't
I'm using a Fractal Define R4 case with a Phanteks CPU cooler and a few Corsair quiet fans. I can still hear the fans but only if there's absolutely nothing else on around it. It's maybe not completely silent but the moment the TV is on at ANY volume I can't hear it anymore. In fact, most other ambient noise drowns it out.Gaming.
Really silent? Fan noise bothers me... Would be looking at a twin frozr 979 most likely.
(thanks for the lucky point at the weekend!)
I think your intuition is right. Check your mobo for capacitor swell and try the paperclip test on your PSU.Thanks for the suggestions. I have 2x8 RAM so I swapped each in and out and tried to boot -- no luck.
This problem is incredibly frustrating because it seems like the problem could be ANY of my components (though intuitively I feel like the PSU or mobo may be the culprit). I'm at a point where I just want to take it to someone who can diagnose it for me -- any recommendations for tech support in the NYC area? MicroCenter?
(my original post if anyone else wants to chime in![]()
If you're not overclocked on your CPU or have a ton of things connected, you'd barely be scraping by. It's probably possible but I really wouldn't recommend it.You guys think I could Sli 780's on a EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750B?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438007
After a bios update, everything is usually set to default. Thus, if you change your sata option from AHCI to raid to eide and/or etc, you need to change it back. Also, make sure the SSD is the 1st boot option.
You shouldn't need to reinstall windows.
It's been about 6 years since I built my last PC and it's time I got a new one. I've been picking parts based on the suggestions in this thread but I thought I'd post this here to see if anyone spots any dumb mistake I made. I understand that I'll need to remove the hard drive cage in the R4 to make room for the 980, is that correct? So that means I have two spots for SSD drives on the case and two spots for other hard drives/optical drive in the top drive bay? I'm cool with spending more money but from what I'm reading the new x99 chips aren't worth it yet but if I stick with x79 I'll never be able to upgrade.
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PB93WZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PB93WZ/by_merchant/)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k) | $338.78 @ SuperBiiz
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $28.49 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h) | $135.99 @ NCIX US
**Memory** | [Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Black 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pvl332g186c0qk) | $349.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te1t0bw) | $417.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42983kr) | $569.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr4bl) | $88.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master V850 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-power-supply-rs850afbag1us) | $159.99 @ Newegg
**Optical Drive** | [Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-bw16d1ht) | $69.99 @ Newegg
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $2160.20
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 21:38 EDT-0400 |
Is the H220X considered one of the better water coolers? Also, is it closed loop, or do you maintain it?![]()
What case are you using? I am thinking of the H220-X or one of the Corsair AIOs but am still deciding.
32 gb is overkill for gaming, I think even 16 is overkill for gaming. If you're doing hardcore video editing, then you probably should consider x99.
I'm guessing you went 850 watts for a possible future sli 980? If not, 550 watts should be enough.
The 32gb isn't just for gaming. I use other software that would benefit from it. Yes, the 850 is for another 980.
What do you think of this X99 build? I also included a new monitor.
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dgjtkL) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dgjtkL/by_merchant/)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k) | $384.98 @ OutletPC
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15) | $93.49 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-x99ssliplus) | $228.79 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42666c15q32grr) | $599.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te1t0bw) | $417.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42983kr) | $569.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr4bl) | $88.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master V850 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-power-supply-rs850afbag1us) | $159.99 @ Newegg
**Monitor** | [Samsung U28D590D 60Hz 28.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-monitor-u28d590d) | $599.99 @ Best Buy
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $3114.20
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 23:29 EDT-0400 |
Why not? I want to see if it will blow up. Under full load it should only use around 620W.
So I have a friend who does video production work professionally, and he is thinking of building his next Gaming/Video Monster of a PC. He is kinda stuck on going for the Titan Z card, I'm telling him he's crazy and don't think it's worth it. He plans on getting the 5960X, but I still think he is nuts for looking at the Titan Z.
Any of you more informed enthusiasts have any input, is there some really good evidence that the Z is worth it's hefty price tag. He also plans on going balls deep into Star Citizen when he gets it built.
So I have a friend who does video production work professionally, and he is thinking of building his next Gaming/Video Monster of a PC. He is kinda stuck on going for the Titan Z card, I'm telling him he's crazy and don't think it's worth it. He plans on getting the 5960X, but I still think he is nuts for looking at the Titan Z.
Any of you more informed enthusiasts have any input, is there some really good evidence that the Z is worth it's hefty price tag. He also plans on going balls deep into Star Citizen when he gets it built.
I'm assuming he's thinking about the Mercury Playback Engine. A Titan isn't needed for that. Adding CUDA support for any NVIDIA card is easy and I'm 99% sure that the GTX Titans don't have 10, 12, or 30 bit color support. He's basically getting nothing from that purchase.
It's not worth it, 2x980 should be around 20 % faster than the Z for ~$1100.
So is it generally still advisable to wait until next year for 20nm GPUs before upgrading if you don't particularly need to upgrade before then? Really just looking to get the best bang for buck to carry me a few years at 1080/60.
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