Yes everything there will run well. Skyrim can get messy when you start playing around with certain mods. They are very unoptimised so can eat through VRAM like it is nothing.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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I'll check that out.
I dont understand what you mean by sets, what is the difference between "2 sticks" and "2 single sticks"?
Thanks!
Ok will do
Manufacturers guarantee that the sticks in a pack/kit of RAM work together without problems.
From your list it read like you would be buying 2 boxes that each contain a single stick. You can buy boxes that contain 2 sticks, to make sure that they will work well together (they should work anyway, so I'm not sure how much of an issue this really is).
So your list had: 2 x (1x4), and some people claim it's better to get (2x4).
Hum, I see. I didn't realize there was a difference.
I thought it was just 2 of the same pack together. Checking the model numbers I see it's different. Thank you
This is probably a stupid question, but are the newer graphic cards still compatible with older motherboards?
I have:
i7920 @ 3.4 ghz (OCed from the stock 2.67, could possibly go a bit higher still)
6gb ram
AMD HD 5770 1GB graphics card
620W power supply.
The graphics card was a pretty cheap model back when i bought the PC a few years back. After OCing the CPU, I think I can make it last a while longer, but are the newer graphics cards still compatible with my old Asus p6t board?
A card around 200-250 dollars worth should be a decent upgrade, right?
Thanks!
I have:
i7920 @ 3.4 ghz (OCed from the stock 2.67, could possibly go a bit higher still)
6gb ram
AMD HD 5770 1GB graphics card
620W power supply.
The graphics card was a pretty cheap model back when i bought the PC a few years back. After OCing the CPU, I think I can make it last a while longer, but are the newer graphics cards still compatible with my old Asus p6t board?
A card around 200-250 dollars worth should be a decent upgrade, right?
Thanks!
phxxBullet
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Sure.
But what's your PSU? Might check if the new GPU needs more than your PSU would be able to handle.
Just took a peek. It says 620W on the sticker.
A friend is selling his pc and i´m tempted to buy it. We both work together as game developers, so i know that he treats all his electronic devices with great care.
This build has 11 months, but he only used it like 30% of this time (he has 2 jobs and 3 "girlfriends").
The basic configuration is this:
CPU - Intel Core i7-2600K (running at 4.0 Ghz)
MB - Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Cooler - Noctua NH-D14
RAM - Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2000
Storage - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
P. Supply - XFX P1-750B-BEFX
Case - CM 690 III
The only thing that i think i need to add is an SSD. His is offering me for the price of R$2.500,00 (roughly U$1.040). But the thing is that here in Brazil if i choose to buy an new R9 280X it would cost me R$1.000 (U$ 420) just for the GPU.
My doubt is if it's wise to buy this build today and if the price is fair.
Thanks GAF
This build has 11 months, but he only used it like 30% of this time (he has 2 jobs and 3 "girlfriends").
The basic configuration is this:
CPU - Intel Core i7-2600K (running at 4.0 Ghz)
MB - Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Cooler - Noctua NH-D14
RAM - Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2000
Storage - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
P. Supply - XFX P1-750B-BEFX
Case - CM 690 III
The only thing that i think i need to add is an SSD. His is offering me for the price of R$2.500,00 (roughly U$1.040). But the thing is that here in Brazil if i choose to buy an new R9 280X it would cost me R$1.000 (U$ 420) just for the GPU.
My doubt is if it's wise to buy this build today and if the price is fair.
Thanks GAF
Honey Bunny
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The Silverstone Fortress FT05 looks like it might be my next case. Unfortunately they don't have the windowed one listed yet so I'll wait a bit.
Them 180mm air penetrators though.
Them 180mm air penetrators though.
Pollux
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Would that build be able to run any games like alien isolation or sleeping dogs?
Basically what's the upper limit of that "Good" build?
MSI Afterburner.
The builds in the OP will run any game. You will just need to put the settings down in graphically demanding games to get reasonable frame rates in the lower to mid end of the builds.
phxxBullet
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Whats the brand name? maybe model name too?
zeroeffect
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I'm not sure what EVGA offers in your country but over here they have a step-up program so you don't have to worry about buying a GPU and then 1 month later a new one comes. Not 100% sure if it covers GPUs that are just higher VRAM increases but I'd imagine it would. I'm personally just going to get a 4GB one now and if something comes out a few months from now step up to it assuming it's even worth it.
Not sure what MSI offers.
Let's say the size is like, 20-25 inches. As for as how much to spend, I'm not sure. Whatever gives me the best results for FPS. Resolution as well but FPS is the bigger priority for me.
matrixman92
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still waiting for a replacement card from Zotac that was shipped last thursday on 2 day priority mail. Their location is less than 6 hours from my house....idunno
When I get it, is the only thing I should do run DDU first to get rid of all my old stuff?
When I get it, is the only thing I should do run DDU first to get rid of all my old stuff?
appaws
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If you can afford to, go Intel. Of course it is tempting to stick with AMD because you can just drop it in there, but Intel is significantly better on gaming performance.
I disagree with this. I think people (gamers) who are new to building PCs will always say "No Overclocking" at first, because they are thinking it is a big deal like in the old days. They have no idea how easy it is now. We should always advise people to leave that door open by buying OC friendly parts.
There are still people who come in here with first-gen i7 parts who can gain some longevity with an OC.
No, there is no consensus on a particular model. People have different preferences. My advice would be to stick to the known first-tier brands and you will be fine. These are generally thought of as the top-tier GPU brands, in no particular order: Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, MSI, Sapphire, XFX.
zeroeffect
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NVM appears EVGA's step up program does not work on same GPUs even if they're higher VRAM increases.
Well, that sucks.
Well, that sucks.
zeroeffect
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Just to drop my 2 cents in on CPUs...if you have been paying attention to recent game releases they're really starting to hate AMD CPUs. I was looking at Evil Within specs and they don't even recommend an AMD CPU at all...just Intel. That game is probably horribly optimized on PC but another game that just released specs is Dragon Age Inquisition. That game recommends higher core AMDs that are at least 6 cores and something like 3.5-3.6 while Intel's requirements are obviously significantly lower.
AMD's CPUs are extremely weak and they have a reason they're not really going against Intel right now. I'm pretty sure I saw some insane number where Intel had at least 95% of their CPUs in gaming builds today. You can kinda see why AMD has been sitting on their hands lol.
AMD's CPUs are extremely weak and they have a reason they're not really going against Intel right now. I'm pretty sure I saw some insane number where Intel had at least 95% of their CPUs in gaming builds today. You can kinda see why AMD has been sitting on their hands lol.
zeroeffect
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($208.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1693.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 16:42 EDT-0400
My final build. I'll probably order within next 2 weeks if I can get a 980 in stock or a better deal rolls up on some items between now and then.
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($208.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1693.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 16:42 EDT-0400
My final build. I'll probably order within next 2 weeks if I can get a 980 in stock or a better deal rolls up on some items between now and then.
From what I'm reading, MSI offers... nothing. Great cards though.
I wanted to go for the EVGA, but the problem is availability, and I was also a bit turned off after reading some "bad" reviews where they say the cooler isn't as good as the MSI, and it can be noisy. I suppose that can be fixed with making my own fan profile though.
It seems EVGA offers step up in my country, but I suppose I'll have to ship the cards abroad, and that will cost a pretty penny. Anyway, thank you for the suggestion. I'll certainly consider it if it ever gets back in stock here.
I'm currently testing out a MSI GTX 980 that I've borrowed from a friend that wants to sell it, and it's certainly an amazing card. Boosts consistently to 1550Mhz without making any noise, and memory clocked to 8Ghz. Even considering going for that, but it can barely max stuff like Ryse at 1080p 60FPS, so I will want another one. And then the price gets really stupid. I'll decide when I get it tested with the 5820K, should be here tomorrow.
Edit:
Yup. Damn it.
zeroeffect
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Yeah, EVGA doesn't have the best cooling compared to some others. I believe their Superclocked ACX 2.0 has the highest factory OC. I don't think the step up program supports people who just want higher VRAM in your card as I posted above. It seems you can't upgrade if it's the same GPU even if it's better performance.
Do they have confirmations on higher VRAM coming or is just rumors? If it's rumors I'm not waiting around for that lol.
Nealand Liquor
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I want to buy (maybe build?) a gaming PC and realized I'm never going to hook it up to a monitor.
So if I was only going to hook my PC up to my livingroom TV (55" LED 1080p 120hz), I don't really need to worry about more than a mid-ranged video card?
Given that it's only to be hooked up to a 1080p TV, is there a reason to get a better card?
I want to be able to play all AAA games in 1080p @ 60fps for at least five years without upgrading. Is this possible at a mid-ranged card or will I need to go high-end?
So if I was only going to hook my PC up to my livingroom TV (55" LED 1080p 120hz), I don't really need to worry about more than a mid-ranged video card?
Given that it's only to be hooked up to a 1080p TV, is there a reason to get a better card?
I want to be able to play all AAA games in 1080p @ 60fps for at least five years without upgrading. Is this possible at a mid-ranged card or will I need to go high-end?
Just rumors as far as I'm aware. You make a great point, and I really want some shiny new GPU-magic in my new rig. I just can't handle being memory constrained again. And before you ask: yes, I'm that idiot that has to run Shadow of Mordor on Ultra with 6GB recommended textures just because it's there (no offense meant to people with the same mindset!).
Goldenmoney
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Not sure if posted yet, but here are some newegg promos:
http://pcpartpicker.com/blog/53/newegg-pcpartpicker-ppp1013ex-promo
http://pcpartpicker.com/blog/53/newegg-pcpartpicker-ppp1013ex-promo
zeroeffect
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Probably not. I think games are still in a transitional generation period before you see the system specs really even out. When the consoles came out that's the lowest point right there. Specs started to see increases and remember the consoles are on 8 core CPUs...while they're extremely weak CPUs it's still 8 cores. Games are starting to show now they're pushing more cores on PC. I think the specs will even out in a year and then you'll see very minor system spec increases until the PS4/X1 are done. Most games aren't going to be built on PC first but rather console ports so they will not be well optimized. Devs are learning how to utilize cores more because consoles take priority and it's what they have to work with.
I doubt even getting a high end 980 would help you there for 5 years. If meant the absolute highest end...maybe but I still doubt it. Devs don't seem to get the most out of any single GPU because they come out every year. Maybe we'll get lucky with something like DX12 will actually help PC optimization be similar to console-like hardware optimization. I had high hopes Mantle would do that but it's not quite what I expected.
tl;dr I seriously doubt it man. Just my opinion. If you bough higher end you would definitely be fine running games for 4-5 years though...just don't expect 1080p 60fps after a few years.
At this point...it's really hard to say without seeing the future but logic says no.
There's basically no reason to buy an AMD CPU right now.
I just got me the EVGA Gtx 970 through Newegg.
Wasn't the exact one I wanted, but it was in stock!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-487-076
Wasn't the exact one I wanted, but it was in stock!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-487-076
mdsfx
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Just got the gigabyte g1 myself!
Sanpei
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Why ? Price, quality ?
Really? On Newegg? That's the one I wanted. Lol
mdsfx
Member
Yes
Poor performance relative to Intel. They're years behind.
CPUs can last five years.
Gpus generally last two.
Unless you don't need 1080p60ultra.
Five years ago was the 280.. Which will still run stuff, but not at max settings. For comparison five years ago was the i7 920, which still runs decently strong in games.
Learn history to save yourself from unreasonable expectations and disappointment
Gpus generally last two.
Unless you don't need 1080p60ultra.
Five years ago was the 280.. Which will still run stuff, but not at max settings. For comparison five years ago was the i7 920, which still runs decently strong in games.
Learn history to save yourself from unreasonable expectations and disappointment
Maybe I was a second or so too late. Damn. I guess it's ok, the EVGA GPU is the same brand as my PSU
Chance Hale
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Refreshed the Newegg Open Box Rog Swift page, said in stock, clicked add to cart and nothing happened. Refreshed again and out of stock. FUCK
Pollux
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Good to know. Thanks. I'm selling my PS4 tomorrow and looking into this.
Love Microcenter. Just got i7 4790K and the Z97 UD3H for $369 total. Add in that whenever they have 970s in stock they can be had for $329 and it's making this build proccess a lot easier.
Also, is the G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866 good? Looking to save on 16GB ram and Newegg has them on sale for $144 till Wednesday
Link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31866c9d16gxm
Also, is the G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866 good? Looking to save on 16GB ram and Newegg has them on sale for $144 till Wednesday
Link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31866c9d16gxm
The EVGA 970 is still in stock at Newegg.
prodystopian
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Thanks for the link! Just picked one up. Anandtech noted the fan is a little loud at idle, but EVGA has already released their update for this model which you can find here:
http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GTX-970-ACX-20-Firmware-Update-v11-m2228516.aspx
Can't wait!
thought I'd let you guys into little project I'm literally just starting to think about doing it. I want to build my PC into my desk. I've layered out an old board quickly to demonstrate my plans. if anyone has any links for measurements or advice on doing these kind of mods let me know.
Already looked at getting these for mounting the Board to the unit.
For everything else I simply need to do more research.
Already looked at getting these for mounting the Board to the unit.
For everything else I simply need to do more research.
Me either! This will be my first GPU. Hopefully I install it correctly and everything runs smoothly. So with this card...If I want I can upgrade to the 980 within 90 days?
Shadowhaxor
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I've gone through 2 of these cards due to issue. Buyer beware!
Yes, assuming they have the 980's in stock. There's a pretty long line for the step-up program and I've yet to get a notification and I've had my GTX 970 since day one (Not counting the two RMA's).
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