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[SliChillax]

You can't do multiple graphics cards on miniITX, you need to at least go microATX for that. It also depends a lot on how much you want to spend on a case...what's your budget?

Yes I know, my budget should not surpass 100 pounds. Someone suggested the BitFenix Prodigy M and it looks and sounds perfect. I also need a decent motherboard for overclocking.
Edit: Mobo with LGA1155 socket.

 

[phxxBullet]

Is there a way for me to not have to reinstall windows when I build a new PC? I am planning to use my current SSD with the new build, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to just put the SSD in the new one and have it boot correctly.

Just do a clean install, trust me, it's not worth to try running the SSd on a different rig.
You get nothing but problems. And a not working PC.

 

[prodystopian]

Just do a clean install, trust me, it's not worth to try running the SSd on a different rig.
You get nothing but problems. And a not working PC.

Pretty much what I thought. Thanks.

 

[OmegaSkittle]

Try an RMA first, you'd still be under warranty I'd imagine. Then when you get it back if you still don't want it you can sell a fully working card.

For ~$150 you're not going to get anything as powerful as your 7870 Myst. To get a card from Nvidia that'd be around it's level you're looking $180 for a 760.

So if it were me I'd RMA and then sell your card for say $100-130 and put that towards your budget if you want rid.

It isn't under RMA anymore. I have had it since May 2013 and I think it was only a year warranty since I bought it from Amazon.

I could spend a little extra on a card and would be willing to spend $180. Would you recommend a 760?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Grabbed an EVGA 970 SC ACX 2.0 card last night from Fry's. The performance from this thing is pretty incredible. I'm actually surprised at how much more powerful it is than my old 7970.

That aside, I'm definitely getting a bit of that coil whine thing. Is that something that can be improved or is my only option to RMA the card and hope for a better one? I may just end up keeping it, since it's not that loud and really isn't noticeable if I'm using headphones.

 

[kharma45]

It isn't under RMA anymore. I have had it since May 2013 and I think it was only a year warranty since I bought it from Amazon.

I could spend a little extra on a card and would be willing to spend $180. Would you recommend a 760?

The manufacturer will have it's own warranty, and I'd be surprised if it was anything less than 2 years. Try taking the RMA through Amazon first though.

It's a Powercolor card isn't it?

 

[OmegaSkittle]

The manufacturer will have it's own warranty, and I'd be surprised if it was anything less than 2 years. Try taking the RMA through Amazon first though.

It's a Powercolor card isn't it?

Yes it is. RMA at Amazon says it ended June of this year

 

[kharma45]

Yes it is. RMA at Amazon says it ended June of this year

Try going direct to Powercolor then http://www.powercolor.com/us/support_warranty.asp

http://www.powercolor.com/us/members_login_2.asp?url=members_rma.asp

PowerColor offers a 2-year limited warranty for all brand new graphic cards purchased within US and Canada *ONLY* (unless stated otherwise). This warranty is valid for 2 years starting from the original purchase date (verified through invoice) and only valid to the ORIGINAL owner of this products and may not be transferred if the product is to be resold or transferred ownership. In order to qualify for this limited 2-year warranty all the conditions under “Terms & Conditions” must be met.

 

[jett]

Does anyone know what causes the "brown screen of death"? Been getting that with Ryse, it also comes with vertical stripes. I think I had it once before with another game too.

 

[kharma45]

I've had it when I've OC'd my GPU memory too far.

 

[espher]

I'm looking to build a new desktop and I also want to build another PC (possibly just a SFF) to have hooked up in my living room. Basically need something that will be solid for emulation up through Dolphin (so I can hopefully put some consoles away), play some indies, and maybe do some video/Steam in-home streaming.

I don't need a full build, but are there any recommendations as to what I look at (as a minimum) for CPU/GPU/memory?

 

[Kevyt]

I'm looking to build a new desktop and I also want to build another PC (possibly just a SFF) to have hooked up in my living room. Basically need something that will be solid for emulation up through Dolphin (so I can hopefully put some consoles away), play some indies, and maybe do some video/Steam in-home streaming.

I don't need a full build, but are there any recommendations as to what I look at (as a minimum) for CPU/GPU/memory?

You need a strong CPU for Dolphin emulation. I would recommend something like an i5 4690k and for GPU you would need something like a 260x or a 750 Ti or better. Dolphin emulator is CPU bound.

 

[opticalmace]

Yes it is. RMA at Amazon says it ended June of this year

Amazon isn't the manufacturer. You should always check what the manufacturer's warranty is. It's normally longer than whatever the retailer offers.

edit: and the retailer might not always have accurate info on the manufacturer's warranty.

 

[OmegaSkittle]

Try going direct to Powercolor then http://www.powercolor.com/us/support_warranty.asp

http://www.powercolor.com/us/members_login_2.asp?url=members_rma.asp

Thanks Kharma! I am getting that done right now. +1 NeoGaf points for you

 

[kharma45]

Thanks Kharma! I am getting that done right now. +1 NeoGaf points for you

No worries. Let me know how you get on! Worth a try at least before spending cash on a new one.

 

[Treechopper]

Keep in mind a 500W PSU doesn't run at 500W all the time (or probably ever TBH). What matters more is efficiency. Check out some PSU reviews (OP has some good links) to get an idea of how efficient some PSUs are at different operating wattages. It's entirely possible that the money you'd save by having a slightly more efficient PSU would be very much overshadowed by the cost of buying a new PSU. I don't know the answer but you should look into it.

I don't think you'd actually save much, because modern GPUs use very little energy while idle (around 15W afaik).

This is late compared to the speed this thread moves, but thank you guys! I'll look more into PSU efficiency.

 

[knitoe]

Is there a way for me to not have to reinstall windows when I build a new PC? I am planning to use my current SSD with the new build, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to just put the SSD in the new one and have it boot correctly.

I jump from 2600K to 5930K and didn't need to reinstall Windows 8. Pretty sure, Windows 7 handles it well to. And, in the old days with HDD, you want to fresh install Windows often to keep the speed. With SSD, it's another reason you no longer need to.

 

[ekgrey]

yeah, but swapping out a processor is different from building a whole PC. seems to me there's way more examples of it not working/working poorly than going well.

 

[jett]

I've had it when I've OC'd my GPU memory too far.

Hmm I guess the GPU might be running out of memory, although I haven't OC'd at all. Oh well, thank you.

 

[kharma45]

Hmm I guess the GPU might be running out of memory, although I haven't OC'd at all. Oh well, thank you.

Lack of memory won't cause that.

 

[knitoe]

yeah, but swapping out a processor is different from building a whole PC. seems to me there's way more examples of it not working/working poorly than going well.

It was a major change, CPU, MB and ram. Before, if you changed MB, I would always recommended to fresh install Windows. After Windows 7/8 + SSD, no so much. At worst, doesn't run and you still need to install Windows. On the other hand, you could be up and running again less than 10 minutes.

 

[Mohasus]

yeah, but swapping out a processor is different from building a whole PC. seems to me there's way more examples of it not working/working poorly than going well.

I gave my old 60GB SSD to my brother and it worked fine.

I have a 3570k and he has a Phenom X4.

 

[Zeth]

My 970 fan just drops to 0 (and then heats up) if I put it on Auto in Afterburner. I've messed around with the User Defined curve but I really just wanted it to be automated/standardized, am I missing something?

 

[bluehat9]

Hey guys, maybe you can help me out. My aunt and cousins want a new computer to replace one that has to be 10+ years old. And since I haven't messed with mine in 5 years I don't really know what I'm looking for anymore.

They said it must run The Sims games, but I know they want something with some power to play other stuff too (think they want this over a new console right now), so I've been going through the thread and came up with this to start (i know a lot is from those guide sheets, but they seem to always pop up in people's recommendations so I went with them).

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bluehat9/saved/JRKnTW

CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $229.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $34.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 $118.99
Memory Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $72.99
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SSD $112.99
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation $184.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower $39.99
Power Supply Antec 550W ATX12V $68.98
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
Total: $880.90

Good, bad? (suggest a video card, please!)

 

[phxxBullet]

It was a major change, CPU, MB and ram. Before, if you changed MB, I would always recommended to fresh install Windows. After Windows 7/8 + SSD, no so much. At worst, doesn't run and you still need to install Windows. On the other hand, you could be up and running again less than 10 minutes.

You really shouldn't. This is like playing the lottery, chances are higher to fk up something than to actually get it working.

Just one recent example haha:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134229800&postcount=14630
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134239772&postcount=14639

 

[knitoe]

You really shouldn't. This is like playing the lottery, chances are higher to fk up something than to actually get it working.

Just one recent example haha:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134229800&postcount=14630
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134239772&postcount=14639

I am a IT guy and have built countless computers over 2 decades. I would know right away if there was something wrong with the computer. And, it's been running great since I made the change 2 months ago when the Haswell E launched.

 

[LordAlu]

Hey guys, maybe you can help me out. My aunt and cousins want a new computer to replace one that has to be 10+ years old. And since I haven't messed with mine in 5 years I don't really know what I'm looking for anymore.

They said it must run The Sims games, but I know they want something with some power to play other stuff too (think they want this over a new console right now), so I've been going through the thread and came up with this to start (i know a lot is from those guide sheets, but they seem to always pop up in people's recommendations so I went with them).

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bluehat9/saved/JRKnTW

CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $229.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $34.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 $118.99
Memory Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $72.99
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SSD $112.99
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation $184.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower $39.99
Power Supply Antec 550W ATX12V $68.98
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
Total: $880.90

Good, bad? (suggest a video card, please!)

I'd probably go for mATX, a brand of memory I've heard of and a smaller case. Also, as it's a family computer are they wanting anything like WiFi, and have you taken Windows into account? What's your budget for this?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Bizarrely, thats literally the cheapest one I've found. Can I get your 2 cents on this one as well?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IJS6QC6/

Sorry for the late reply. Both are good monitors, this will work for what you needed, but if you were ready to buy the other, then I would personally choose that one, since for me the input lag isn't really that much of a difference and the colors really are.

Going for cheaper, there's also these two:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EZD3KYQ/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EQ0PB5Y/

 

[espher]

You need a strong CPU for Dolphin emulation. I would recommend something like an i5 4690k and for GPU you would need something like a 260x or a 750 Ti or better. Dolphin emulator is CPU bound.

Hmm...

If that's the case, perhaps I'd be better to put my primary box in the living room, get a good keyboard/mouse rest, and then just set up a cheap PC in my office to do work and/or remote into the living room PC.

 

[appaws]

Hey guys, maybe you can help me out. My aunt and cousins want a new computer to replace one that has to be 10+ years old. And since I haven't messed with mine in 5 years I don't really know what I'm looking for anymore.

They said it must run The Sims games, but I know they want something with some power to play other stuff too (think they want this over a new console right now), so I've been going through the thread and came up with this to start (i know a lot is from those guide sheets, but they seem to always pop up in people's recommendations so I went with them).

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bluehat9/saved/JRKnTW

CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $229.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $34.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 $118.99
Memory Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $72.99
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SSD $112.99
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation $184.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower $39.99
Power Supply Antec 550W ATX12V $68.98
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
Total: $880.90

Good, bad? (suggest a video card, please!)

I think that looks OK. I've never heard of that memory though...maybe look for something else.

I would also agree with LordAlu above...maybe Micro ATX and a smaller case would be a good idea. Your GPU choice depends on your overall budget.

 

[VexationStation]

You really shouldn't. This is like playing the lottery, chances are higher to fk up something than to actually get it working.

Just one recent example haha:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134229800&postcount=14630
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134239772&postcount=14639

It's really not that bad, I've done it multiple times before anecdotally. There's also no indication above that it's from the Windows install, and not the person's new PC hardware having issues.

If you want to simplify the process, on the old computer make sure to uninstall any OEM software first, as well as any of the hardware specific drivers.

 

[TwistedFate]

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NtMdJx) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NtMdJx/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460) | $189.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4) | $99.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1600c9) | $86.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1) | $72.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9270xdc2t2gd5) | $155.75 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $39.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr) | $32.99 @ NCIX US
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $678.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 15:28 EDT-0400 |

How is this for for mainly league, and streaming league at 100+ fps? good?

 

[drizzle]

Newegg has a nice deal on an Asrock + i5 k processor going right about now: 299.99 for the combo with 83 dollars discount plus 20 mail in rebate.

It's the AsRock Z97 Extreme 4 motherboard, one step above the Asrock motherboard recommended on the table in the first page, along with a i5-4690K 3.5GHz.

Looks like a good deal, imo. Cheaper than buying the Asrock Z97 Pro4+CPU by themselves.

Edit: cheaper than the combo on the post above mine as well!

 

[phxxBullet]

I am a IT guy and have built countless computers over 2 decades. I would know right away if there was something wrong with the computer. And, it's been running great since I made the change 2 months ago when the Haswell E launched.

Hey, great if it always worked out for you.
But I tried this twice, once moving a HDD from a broken notebook to a new one and the other time from a PC to a notebook.

May just be a thing with notebooks, but it wouldn't be the first time I hear someone having problems after simply switchen HDDs with different PCs

 

[kennah]

You really shouldn't. This is like playing the lottery, chances are higher to fk up something than to actually get it working.

Just one recent example haha:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134229800&postcount=14630
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134239772&postcount=14639

For all my complaining it really just needs a reinstall, it's not like it hurt the hardware.

I am a IT guy and have built countless computers over 2 decades. I would know right away if there was something wrong with the computer. And, it's been running great since I made the change 2 months ago when the Haswell E launched.

Yup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't

 

[NickatNite]

Newegg has a nice deal on an Asrock + i5 k processor going right about now: 299.99 for the combo with 83 dollars discount plus 20 mail in rebate.

Damn, where was this deal month n a half ago when I bought both separately.

 

[yatesl]

My cousin's looking for a £300 machine for "media and basic games". Obviously a horrendously tight budget, but I'm not used to AMD chips (and how good they are). This is the Intel one I've put together:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£30.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£33.27 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.38 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB StormX OC Video Card (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£19.42 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£35.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£10.00)
Total: £310.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 21:30 BST+0100

Any AMD APUs to improve this? Gone for the cheapest board, and cheapest case.

 

[kharma45]

My cousin's looking for a £300 machine for "media and basic games". Obviously a horrendously tight budget, but I'm not used to AMD chips (and how good they are). This is the Intel one I've put together:



Any AMD APUs to improve this? Gone for the cheapest board, and cheapest case.

That's a more potent combo.

 

[garath]

My 970 fan just drops to 0 (and then heats up) if I put it on Auto in Afterburner. I've messed around with the User Defined curve but I really just wanted it to be automated/standardized, am I missing something?

What brand 970? MSI and Asus have a silent feature where they keep the fans off until the card breaks 60c. It'll ramp up as the card heats up and keep it under 80.

 

[yatesl]

That's a more potent combo.

Yeah, I know the Anniversary edition is The Little Chip That Could, and 750 Ti puts out 'decent' performance in newish games on low/med, but I didn't know if there was a hidden red secret anywhere.

 

[LordAlu]

My cousin's looking for a £300 machine for "media and basic games". Obviously a horrendously tight budget, but I'm not used to AMD chips (and how good they are). This is the Intel one I've put together:



Any AMD APUs to improve this? Gone for the cheapest board, and cheapest case.

That's a really good build for the price. I personally would probably change the 2x2GB to 1x4GB (so it can be upgraded to 8GB later if required) but otherwise it's nice for the price!

 

[appaws]

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NtMdJx) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NtMdJx/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460) | $189.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4) | $99.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1600c9) | $86.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1) | $72.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9270xdc2t2gd5) | $155.75 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $39.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr) | $32.99 @ NCIX US
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $678.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 15:28 EDT-0400 |

How is this for for mainly league, and streaming league at 100+ fps? good?

I would change that CPU to a 4690k....and buy a CPU cooler like a CM 212 Evo. It will give you the ability to OC.

I don't know anything about streaming and what you need to do it.

 

[yatesl]

That's a really good build for the price. I personally would probably change the 2x2GB to 1x4GB (so it can be upgraded to 8GB later if required) but otherwise it's nice for the price!

Good shout. I guess single vs dual channel doesn't really matter at this level.

 

[kharma45]

Yeah, I know the Anniversary edition is The Little Chip That Could, and 750 Ti puts out 'decent' performance in newish games on low/med, but I didn't know if there was a hidden red secret anywhere.

R7 265 is a stronger card but uses a bit more power. It and a 270 might fall within budget, I'll have a quick search.

 

[LilJoka]

Hi guys I was wondering if when sticking the H60 cooler onto the cpu chip is causing the thermal paste to move from the centre if it slides a little when trying to put the screws in? I have tried this three times with the X, pea size, and card spread and this keeps happening.

That was the pea trick above.

This is at 1.2 Volts for Haswell at 45. It's currently 45 idle and around 70 gaming.

You reckon I should try the smiley trick if I risk having the cooler sliding?

No, the whole point is to have as little as possible thermal paste between the CPU and heatsink. Thermal paste is used to make a surface smooth on microscopic level by filling any imperfections so there is as much metal to metal contact and least metal to air to metal contact. Therefore the cooler designers use a convex surface on the heatsink to maximise the pressure on the die area under the CPU heatspreader, that is why the paste has moved away from the centre towards the edges. It shows good contact, good thermal paste spread, and good design from corsair.

You have applied way too much paste however, the application should not cause any paste to go over the edges of the CPU heatspreader. You should really it all up and apply a fresh pea sized dot.

 

[yatesl]

R7 265 is a stronger card but uses a bit more power. It and a 270 might fall within budget, I'll have a quick search.

How much better? Going off of Amazon prices they're £10~15 more, and use more wattage. I know they'll be fine on a 430w, but if another HDD is added etc...

 

[kharma45]

How much better? Going off of Amazon prices they're £10~15 more, and use more wattage. I know they'll be fine on a 430w, but if another HDD is added etc...

Still enough headroom for a 265, and for a 270 I don't see why it wouldn't be either

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_270_review,8.html

Let's have a look at how much power draw we measure with this graphics card installed. The methodology: We have a device constantly monitoring the power draw from the PC. We simply stress the GPU, not the processor. The before and after wattage will tell us roughly how much power a graphics card is consuming under load. Our test system is based on a power hungry six-core Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E based setup on the X79 chipset platform. This setup is overclocked to 4.60 GHz on all cores. Next to that we have energy saving functions disabled for this motherboard and processor (to ensure consistent benchmark results). We'll be calculating the GPU power consumption here, not the total PC power consumption.

Power consumption Radeon R9-270

System in IDLE = 121W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 254W
Difference (GPU load) = 133W
Add average IDLE wattage ~10W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 143 Watts

Up to yourself. XFX 270 is £107 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...hz-boost-925mhz-1280-streams-dp-dvi-hdmi-plus and with it being paired with a Pentium I can't see power being an issue.

265 is ~15% better, a 270 you're talking 25%.

 

[knitoe]

Hey, great if it always worked out for you.
But I tried this twice, once moving a HDD from a broken notebook to a new one and the other time from a PC to a notebook.

May just be a thing with notebooks, but it wouldn't be the first time I hear someone having problems after simply switchen HDDs with different PCs

As I already mention before you posted, if it works, you are ready to go again in 10 min. If it doesn't, just do a fresh install. But, hah, since it didn't work for you twice, it must not work for...

 

[yatesl]

Still enough headroom for a 265, and for a 270 I don't see why it wouldn't be either

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_270_review,8.html



Up to yourself. XFX 270 is £107 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...hz-boost-925mhz-1280-streams-dp-dvi-hdmi-plus and with it being paired with a Pentium I can't see power being an issue.

Fair, and I know £20 isn't a lot but it's not my budget. I'll let him know though. I'm all too aware of the "for just an extra £xx I can improve this". How I ended up going from "I'll get a 660 to replace my 5770" to "I just spent £900 on a new PC".

Any reason why the Powerco

Spoiler

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lor 270x is the same price as normal 270s? I know they're not Gigabyte, but the chipsets are the same?

 

[kharma45]

Fair, and I know £20 isn't a lot but it's not my budget. I'll let him know though. I'm all too aware of the "for just an extra £xx I can improve this". How I ended up going from "I'll get a 660 to replace my 5770" to "I just spent £900 on a new PC".

100% agree where you're coming from. Been there myself. It's how my Pentium build turned into an i5 :lol

Don't discount used cards too. This is a good value 660 Ti, the 3GB model. Not sure if the warranty is transferable though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KFA2-Nvid...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item4adda85c26

Edit - Seems warranty isn't transferable, shame http://www.kfa2.com/warranty.shtml

Any reason why the Powerco

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lor 270x is the same price as normal 270s? I know they're not Gigabyte, but the chipsets are the same?

They're a lesser brand so can't charge a premium like others.