The cooler comes with a second set of mounting brackets and rubber pads. If you didn't mount a second fan, you could use those if you still have them.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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The cooler comes with a second set of mounting brackets and rubber pads. If you didn't mount a second fan, you could use those if you still have them.
I've always heard good things about MSI laptops when it comes to gaming.
I'm bummed at how quickly my 660 Ti has aged, but I kind of expected it due to the time I bought it (right before the announcement of next gen consoles).
I want the next graphics card I buy to have longer legs, even if it means waiting another year. Do you guys think the 900 series successor will let me play PS4 ports with at least PS4 performance? I will be gaming at 1080p and frame rate only bothers me when there is noticeable slowdown/skipped frames (ie: I'm not of those 60+ fps or bust fanatics). I am tempted to get a mid range 900 card, but I don't want to be in this situation again in 2 years.
Edit: I know these cards blow away PS4 specs, and I guess I realistically want > PS4 performance, not equal to. I want to be able to play games coming out in 2016 and beyond, maybe not at ultra everything, but at least the high res textures... I wanted to cry when Watch Dogs hi res textures made my PC choke.
I want the next graphics card I buy to have longer legs, even if it means waiting another year. Do you guys think the 900 series successor will let me play PS4 ports with at least PS4 performance? I will be gaming at 1080p and frame rate only bothers me when there is noticeable slowdown/skipped frames (ie: I'm not of those 60+ fps or bust fanatics). I am tempted to get a mid range 900 card, but I don't want to be in this situation again in 2 years.
Edit: I know these cards blow away PS4 specs, and I guess I realistically want > PS4 performance, not equal to. I want to be able to play games coming out in 2016 and beyond, maybe not at ultra everything, but at least the high res textures... I wanted to cry when Watch Dogs hi res textures made my PC choke.
trickyhero
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I don't know if you guys know this, but Microcenter has a sweet bundle on the overclockable pentium. I'm thinking of picking it up and if I need more cores I can just upgrade later, anyone have expirence with these parts and gaming? Seems like the Pentium Aniversery Edition is pretty good for games.
appaws
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Nobody can promise you anything as far as computer hardware 2 years down the road. Remember the 660ti was not high-end hardware even when it came out....
For what you are describing I would go buy a 970 and enjoy it. It's not like it is hard to duplicate (and far exceed) PS4 performance.
But over the next few years we are going to continue to see improvements in GPU performance, especially as 2560x1440, 4K displays, etc. penetrate the market and we all need the horsepower to drive them.
Goldenmoney
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Yep, I'm pretty sure they've had that bundle ever since the processor was released. Great deal.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Awesome, thanks! I'll probably jump on the card right now then, considering this seems like a really good deal.
Out of curiosity, will the R9 280 last me more than two years? Or will it be a card that I will look to replace in a year or two?
opticalmace
Member
Really digging the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. It's a lot of case for $99!
appaws
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"A year or two." I would not put that past any PC component. It's going to be a good card for 1080p gaming right now, and for a while depending on your own standards for what is good as far as settings, etc.
This is, after all, a part that is essentially a 7950...a great GPU but several years old. But you were building a machine with a budget of $800 for gaming at 1080p, so I think that this is a good deal for that build. But, I would not think of it as a long-term investment...no.
Currently running an i7 870 and a GTX 660. Limited to running at 1080p on my HDTV in my living room. Machine is used solely for gaming.
Tempted to upgrade to a GTX 970 or R9 290 to modernize things a bit.
However, I'm not sure if it's better to make the jump to Haswell (e.g. 4690k) and upgrade my GPU down the line. I feel like at that point I might as well build a whole new rig...
Thoughts Gaf?
Tempted to upgrade to a GTX 970 or R9 290 to modernize things a bit.
However, I'm not sure if it's better to make the jump to Haswell (e.g. 4690k) and upgrade my GPU down the line. I feel like at that point I might as well build a whole new rig...
Thoughts Gaf?
Matrix XII
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Really digging the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. It's a lot of case for $99!
I have the same case an absolutely love it. I think it is one of the best value cases there is right now.
Black Republican
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I know this is a parts build thread. But what's a mid range gaming pc to play games at say 60fps1080p+?
With my girlfriend finally moved in and settling down, I can turn my attention to my rig here. I'm still undecided on my future monitor choice, but I know if I want to go 1440p/144hz or 4k/60hz, I'm going to need some upgrades...but my girlfriend needs a PC now as well (she games as well).
I'm tempted to just give her my current rig and built a new one from scratch designed for high end awesomesauce stuff (while carrying over some components such as my 970).
Smart move? Dumb move? Nerdy move?
I'm tempted to just give her my current rig and built a new one from scratch designed for high end awesomesauce stuff (while carrying over some components such as my 970).
Smart move? Dumb move? Nerdy move?
appaws
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Not sure what you are asking....? Are you looking for something pre-built? Read through the OP and look at the builds there. When you say mid-range, what do you mean? That can mean a lot of different things to different people.
I guess it depends on how much money you want to spend. And how good of a rig you have to give her in order to keep her happy so you keep gettin' the sweet, sweet lovin....
My current rig would be the best PC she's had in her life. As for the money? Looking at something around the Enthusist build level in the OP. Except I already have the CPU and RAM. Would need the case, mobo, power supply, ssd/hdd and another 970 for SLI.
(She has no problem this with arrangement. lol)
maneil99
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Get a new GPU now and then get a new CPU when Broadwell releases or when you have the $. CPU is still decent. You will see a much bigger gain with upgrading the GPU.
Couple of sort of stupid questions. For reference, here's my planned build...
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Is it worthwhile at all to transfer over my old power supply?
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI-B 700W
I know this is *stupid* and a major bottleneck, but given the tight supply of some of the lower priced GTX 970 cards... if I sucked it up and only used it for internet use for the time being, could I also transfer over my old 9800 GTX+ (lol)?
It was this one, seems to fit in my case and associated connectors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
Sorry for the silly questions. thanks!
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Is it worthwhile at all to transfer over my old power supply?
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI-B 700W
I know this is *stupid* and a major bottleneck, but given the tight supply of some of the lower priced GTX 970 cards... if I sucked it up and only used it for internet use for the time being, could I also transfer over my old 9800 GTX+ (lol)?
It was this one, seems to fit in my case and associated connectors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
Sorry for the silly questions. thanks!
GPU first. I have an i7 860 and I noticed maybe a little bottleneck when I upgraded to my 970 last month. Also, even if it's a pain in the ass with the first gen, you can always overclock the CPU (if you haven't already).
I'm looking to upgrade my 2008 pc, but I want a pc that will play current gen games for the next few years without upgrading again
I will need to upgrade my mother board, cpu, gpu, ram and possibly hdd
I can get an i7 4970k + z97x gaming g1 for 389$
For gpu it seems like the gtx 970 would the best option, and ram/hdd are cheap so whatever
The only question is if my psu
CORSAIR 650W TX CMPSU-650TX and case ANTEC 900 will fit these parts, because buying a new psu and case would make it too exepnsive for me
I will need to upgrade my mother board, cpu, gpu, ram and possibly hdd
I can get an i7 4970k + z97x gaming g1 for 389$
For gpu it seems like the gtx 970 would the best option, and ram/hdd are cheap so whatever
The only question is if my psu
CORSAIR 650W TX CMPSU-650TX and case ANTEC 900 will fit these parts, because buying a new psu and case would make it too exepnsive for me
Jacksinthe
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Hey guys, thinking about the "Great" option on the first page. Here's my situation:
Many things fried on my production machine. Lightning struck and melted my cable outside, subwoofer upstairs, router, one of my USB hubs and holy shit, my microwave. Blasted straight through my Monster surge like a hot knife through butter.
Power supply is toast on my machine. Thankfully, that's all and thankfully, my gaming rig is safe. I was going to fix it but decided to build anew, fix my old machine and donate it. Current specs on production machine:
i5 2500k
GTX 570 (laugh it off, peeps, handled my things fine)
16gb RAM (used to do a SHITLOAD of audio)
Sabertooth p67
The ?s
For the "Great" option I plan on using a GTX 760 so thats an upgrade. For the CPU im going with the i5 but I am not overclocking so would I need a larger heatsink or will the stock box handle it OK? Should I up to Windows 8.1 or stick with 7? I believe 8.x performs better. Never had an SSD and always raided. I'm assuming the SSD is for windows and other is for programs n things? Or do I roll programs like Unity on the SSD and use the other for project files, etc?
Primary use:
Unity3D game development. We make games for consoles, too. They are all 2D at the moment. Performance wise we have no issues hitting 60 constant even on an Android device from 2012 with a million particle FX and things on screen. Never had an issue with my 570.
I program, but hardware specifics aren't my thing. I can build and troubleshoot but when it comes to the fresh smell of new electronics, I defer to GAF.
I don't use my gaming rig for production. I like to keep them separate since I'm always fiddling with something on my gaming machine and the hassle of deactivating and reactivating licenses for any small change is a pain (not to mention the "you seem to be reactivating a lot of licenses" emails) plus security of a closed environment.
Time is now, now. Order today or tomorrow or if I can fish from a local shop, pick up and build over the weekend.
Thanks ahead of time for the help!
Many things fried on my production machine. Lightning struck and melted my cable outside, subwoofer upstairs, router, one of my USB hubs and holy shit, my microwave. Blasted straight through my Monster surge like a hot knife through butter.
Power supply is toast on my machine. Thankfully, that's all and thankfully, my gaming rig is safe. I was going to fix it but decided to build anew, fix my old machine and donate it. Current specs on production machine:
i5 2500k
GTX 570 (laugh it off, peeps, handled my things fine)
16gb RAM (used to do a SHITLOAD of audio)
Sabertooth p67
The ?s
For the "Great" option I plan on using a GTX 760 so thats an upgrade. For the CPU im going with the i5 but I am not overclocking so would I need a larger heatsink or will the stock box handle it OK? Should I up to Windows 8.1 or stick with 7? I believe 8.x performs better. Never had an SSD and always raided. I'm assuming the SSD is for windows and other is for programs n things? Or do I roll programs like Unity on the SSD and use the other for project files, etc?
Primary use:
Unity3D game development. We make games for consoles, too. They are all 2D at the moment. Performance wise we have no issues hitting 60 constant even on an Android device from 2012 with a million particle FX and things on screen. Never had an issue with my 570.
I program, but hardware specifics aren't my thing. I can build and troubleshoot but when it comes to the fresh smell of new electronics, I defer to GAF.
I don't use my gaming rig for production. I like to keep them separate since I'm always fiddling with something on my gaming machine and the hassle of deactivating and reactivating licenses for any small change is a pain (not to mention the "you seem to be reactivating a lot of licenses" emails) plus security of a closed environment.
Time is now, now. Order today or tomorrow or if I can fish from a local shop, pick up and build over the weekend.
Thanks ahead of time for the help!
Prophet Steve
Member
Stock cooler will be fine if you don't want to overclock, unless you want it to be quieter.
I'd recommend Windows 8.1, performs better, more features, likely will cost less to upgrade to the new Windows.
You put Windows on the SSD and then programs you use a lot, Unity could work well on that.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Sweet. Good to hear. I found a combo on newegg for 825ish but the RAM speed is 1600, not the recommended in the profile. I'm on my phone now. When I get home from work I'll get at my other machine and do legit comparisons/pricing. Hard to do on phone. All in all this is the round about setup I am going with. Should work fine for 2D projects.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HvW2FT/by_merchant/
I built that around 2 years ago now and I think it's time for a GPU upgrade. I'm between the 780Ti and the 970.
Pretty sure the 970 is the way to go. With that said, if I buy the Gigabyte version of the card (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NH5T1MS/?tag=neogaf0e-20), can you guys tell me if that card will fit my case, and will I need to pay particular attention when installing it or will I literally swap it out with my old card, connecting the same cables and slots?
Any reason I should buy a different version of the 970 than the Gigabyte?
Thanks!
I built that around 2 years ago now and I think it's time for a GPU upgrade. I'm between the 780Ti and the 970.
Pretty sure the 970 is the way to go. With that said, if I buy the Gigabyte version of the card (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NH5T1MS/?tag=neogaf0e-20), can you guys tell me if that card will fit my case, and will I need to pay particular attention when installing it or will I literally swap it out with my old card, connecting the same cables and slots?
Any reason I should buy a different version of the 970 than the Gigabyte?
Thanks!
In case anyone was curious, NZXT's Grid+ and CAM software are absolute garbage. Do not even bother. All none NZXT products have a min of 40% fan speed, fan speed can only be adjusted across all fans not individually, the ports on the grid are very flimsy and cause the fan plugs to get stuck (requiring you to sometimes take apart the Grid+ module) and the software freezes, crashes, and basically is inoperable.
So yeah... bad experience. Corsair Link is FAR superior (I just wish it had less CPU overhead).
So yeah... bad experience. Corsair Link is FAR superior (I just wish it had less CPU overhead).
opticalmace
Member
The 970 will fit if you remove the hard drive cage(s?) from your case. It'll be mostly a direct swap. That 970 needs one 6-pin VGA power cable and one 8-pin. They are in a 6+2 arrangement from your PSU so you won't have any issues.
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply.
Now I try and hold off for a few weeks until they hopefully sell that card with FC4 or AC:Unity...
Additionally, it sounds like I may want more case fans for OCing with that. Which fans can go into my current build?
prodystopian
Member
My build is doing great except for the headphone jack on my define r4. It works but the sound is definitely garbled. I thought maybe it was the driver but I installed the HD audio driver for my as rock z97 pro 3 and that didnt change anything. Anyone have any ideas on how to debug?
Really digging the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. It's a lot of case for $99!
Interesting that you didn't use the cutout in the "cable cover" to run your video card wires...
I actually like how yours looks, it looks cleaner, might have to re-wire mine!
That means you're still in the return window :]
Bananajama
Banned
Off the back of this I've actually switched to the 230T and changed my PSU to something a little cheaper....
Not quite what you recommended but seems a better choice
Be at least another week for my deposit return though - don't trust my ex-landlord so could be a wee bit longer.
Would like to go i7 like someone suggested but I can't quite push myself to stretch my budget for it yet....
Your good to go, the PCI-Express slot will take it. I don't know if Nvidia still updates that card though.
opticalmace
Member
I didn't really pay attention to be honest lol. I just figured I would try to see if I could hide it in the back. Some cables are sticking out in the picture, I will probably clean them up a little back, maybe with a cable tie or two.
Either way, this case is awesome for cabling. Took a little while the first time but I don't want to go back to a more traditional case now.
I wouldn't hold your breath. With cards selling this well, they have no need to add incentives like free games.
Borderlands the Pre Sequel was being bundled very recently and that's brand new.
TheNamelessOne
Member
Has anyone moved away from physical hard drives altogether as internal drives? I believe my HDD broke yesterday, and I'm contemplating to just skip it and go full SSD instead. I'm not really using much HDD space anyway and I have an external HDD for storing pictures and whatnot.
It was bundled with the 700-series.
It was bundled with the 700-series.
With 700 series cards though, not 970s as far as I know....
Gotcha. With that said, any reason I should get an Asus or MSI 970 rather than the Gigabyte G1 version? May head to Microcenter later this week and pick it up along with an extra fan or two.
I've got a Zotac Amp Omega 970, well two of them, and they run cool, quiet, and overclock to 1500mhz.
That one looks to be out of stock most places right now but I guess that would be yet another 970 option lol.
As far as OCing goes, I've never done it. Once I put whichever 970 I buy into my case and reboot, what's the next step to try overclocking?
My current build btw: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HvW2FT/by_merchant/
Load up your software of choice (evga precision / afterburner) and start adding to the boost clock...... run something intensive........see if it crashes, repeat.
And doing it in small increments will make it unlikely I'll destroy my card, right?
And doing it in small increments will make it unlikely I'll destroy my card, right?
You could put it up 543323423 mhz and it wont destroy your card..... it'll just crash.
Alright, I'm thinking about upgrading (well, building a new one) my computer. Help me GAF!
Budget: ~1000, from Finland
Main Use: Some gaming, mostly Football Manager I would think. Random movie here and there. Will be using my old video card.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p, will be using my old monitor.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Football Manager, so a good CPU is a must.
Looking to reuse any parts?: ATI Radeon 5870 (I know it's not exactly new, but I can deal with it and it's upgradeable), BenQ 24" monitor, a couple of 1TB HDD's for storage
When will you build?: No deadline, but I would prefer sooner or later.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably.
Should I just go with the "Excellent" build from the chart? That's around my budget. Thanks guys!
Budget: ~1000, from Finland
Main Use: Some gaming, mostly Football Manager I would think. Random movie here and there. Will be using my old video card.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p, will be using my old monitor.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Football Manager, so a good CPU is a must.
Looking to reuse any parts?: ATI Radeon 5870 (I know it's not exactly new, but I can deal with it and it's upgradeable), BenQ 24" monitor, a couple of 1TB HDD's for storage
When will you build?: No deadline, but I would prefer sooner or later.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably.
Should I just go with the "Excellent" build from the chart? That's around my budget. Thanks guys!
appaws
Banned
Yep. Love it. I don't do much with storing a lot of pictures or media or whatever, so it was an easy choice for me. Always hated the noise of the HDD. I still have all the drives I have amassed over the years sitting on a shelf. If I need anything off of them, I bought a cheap Rosewill adapter that has a USB on one end and Sata and IDE(!) on the other.
prodystopian
Member
I had been using my external mostly for media since my old internal HDD was close to dying. Eventually, I'd like to move to just an SSD internally and a NAS for media, but with my new build I decided to get an internal for now.
mauinho
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Just pulled the Trigger on this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/33YMyc
Haven't built a PC in 12 years It's going to be fun and games haha
There's a 2 week wait on the 970 from Amazon UK and the h240x will also take 2 weeks to get here , the rest will be here by weeks end.
Lots of reading and video tutorials meanwhile.
I'm quite excited I have to admit.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/33YMyc
Haven't built a PC in 12 years It's going to be fun and games haha
There's a 2 week wait on the 970 from Amazon UK and the h240x will also take 2 weeks to get here , the rest will be here by weeks end.
Lots of reading and video tutorials meanwhile.
I'm quite excited I have to admit.
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