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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Just the motherboard.
Depends none GPU for the power needed.
What GPU do you have and what do you plan to buy?
zeroeffect
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Any of you fine gents want to point me in the right direction to calibrate the Asus VG248QE. It's painfully bright and the colors are washed out completely.
ChoklitReign
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I want to buy a graphics card within a week. I have $300 in cash I can deposit but want to spend $250 max. I'll be using a 10% off coupon on Newegg. What's the best manufacturer for the 760? Are the >2GB models easily available? Here's a bulletpoint list of my predicament and explanations for my limits.
1. Current PC has an AMD 6850, i3 2100, 4GB RAM, and a 500GB hard drive. It sucks now and I don't even play games on it because a. hopeless disinterest and b. the internet blows hard in that part of the house. But I still want to upgrade to play some new games I'm dying for and get into a gaming spirit again. And those games are:
2. Alien Isolation, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow of Mordor, and GTA V. That last one will probably be the most intensive so I want the new parts to survive that one.
3. I only have $300 so I only want a graphics card for now. I'll buy a CPU (Ivy Bridge i5 or i7 from eBay) and maybe memory next year hopefully.
4. How video memory hungry are these games anyway? If Evil Within uses <2GB RAM it's overblown right? SoM look okay on medium in my book so that doesn't need to be maxed. I can max AI and play the rest on medium-high.
5. So, best Nvidia (I've had it with AMD drivers and the lack of Nvidia's features) graphics card for $300? I just can't get a 970 because of supply problems and it's about $30 more than I want.
P.S. the discount is $20 off on $200 or above purchases and I'm just going to move my PC to a better spot to strengthen internet. Still takes 24 hours to download anything above 20GB.
1. Current PC has an AMD 6850, i3 2100, 4GB RAM, and a 500GB hard drive. It sucks now and I don't even play games on it because a. hopeless disinterest and b. the internet blows hard in that part of the house. But I still want to upgrade to play some new games I'm dying for and get into a gaming spirit again. And those games are:
2. Alien Isolation, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow of Mordor, and GTA V. That last one will probably be the most intensive so I want the new parts to survive that one.
3. I only have $300 so I only want a graphics card for now. I'll buy a CPU (Ivy Bridge i5 or i7 from eBay) and maybe memory next year hopefully.
4. How video memory hungry are these games anyway? If Evil Within uses <2GB RAM it's overblown right? SoM look okay on medium in my book so that doesn't need to be maxed. I can max AI and play the rest on medium-high.
5. So, best Nvidia (I've had it with AMD drivers and the lack of Nvidia's features) graphics card for $300? I just can't get a 970 because of supply problems and it's about $30 more than I want.
P.S. the discount is $20 off on $200 or above purchases and I'm just going to move my PC to a better spot to strengthen internet. Still takes 24 hours to download anything above 20GB.
zeroeffect
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Wow, thanks man. This looks waaaaaaay better.
d00d3n
Member
Hmmm, thanks, so it is probably a quite safe buy in that sense.
I don't really need the X99 right now, but I feel like if I just wait for the GM200 card and put it in my existing system, I will reach bottlenecks too soon. I feel burned by experiencing all these SLI compatibility issues and want a system that "just works" for the next couple of years. It doesn't really matter if the processor/memory/motherboard have become slightly cheaper when gm200 has come out, I just wanted to know if buying early is a stupid decision from the perspective that it may be less future proof than waiting.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I will ask once more, anyone with an X 99 based PC care to provide their parts and the cost? I want to try to narrow this down and settle on some parts here because the main components are my biggest complaint in terms of price but obviously the memory given that it's new ddr4 is going to be a premium. I just kind of want to know what people have built because I'm leaning on an Asus Pro motherboard which is around 329 vs the deluxe which is about 400.
Everything else it's kind of spoken for but I will take some advice on memory as well. I kind of have settled on a 2600 or 2800mhz set of g.skill RAM. Again, any advice as well as maybe a cost of certain bills would be great.
Everything else it's kind of spoken for but I will take some advice on memory as well. I kind of have settled on a 2600 or 2800mhz set of g.skill RAM. Again, any advice as well as maybe a cost of certain bills would be great.
See You Next Wednesday
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I have a Radeon HD 7970 3GB, which I was told i was already weak & outdated.
I want something cheap that I might find on Back Friday & add it to my system.
What do I need to look for another Radeon, can I mix & match with a Nvidia/AMD card?
How will the PC recognize the main GPU, how does the process of installing two GPU's work?
Locke Lamora
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Finally finished my build and set everything up. It's a sexy mATX build in a Fractal Mini R2 Case, incl. a MSI z97m Gaming Mainboard, MSI 970 GTX and a Thermalright 120M True Spirit fan. That stupid fan needs a lot of space but somehow everything worked out fine.
Except one thing. Maybe two:
1) My cable management is quite the mess, especially for a good case like the Fractal R2. ^-^
2) Somehow even in Silent Mode my PC seemed to be.... noisy??? I deactivated the system fans, then re-attached the CPU fan, tried several UEFI settings but nothing. Then I found the culprit: the new 1000GB WD Blue HDD. Maybe its noise is normal for the WD Blue but for me it was just too loud. Even the HDDs in my Notebooks aren't that loud, so maybe the noises aren't normal, dunno.
Except one thing. Maybe two:
1) My cable management is quite the mess, especially for a good case like the Fractal R2. ^-^
2) Somehow even in Silent Mode my PC seemed to be.... noisy??? I deactivated the system fans, then re-attached the CPU fan, tried several UEFI settings but nothing. Then I found the culprit: the new 1000GB WD Blue HDD. Maybe its noise is normal for the WD Blue but for me it was just too loud. Even the HDDs in my Notebooks aren't that loud, so maybe the noises aren't normal, dunno.
Dance Inferno
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Is it worth overclocking my Sapphire Dual-X Radeon R9 280, which is already factory overclocked? Or should I just stick it out with its default overclock?
Okay...
This year for Christmas my wife aksed for a gaming PC. We were thinking of just getting an Alienware Alpha, but now we're inclined to build something.
This will mostly be used for comfy couch gaming. HDMI to a plasma TV. A lot of indie titles, but she'd like to be able to play next gen stuff too. The other thing is that we don't want it to be overly loud or ugly if it's going to be in the living room. We really like this case.
I basically hijacked this build from a PC Part picker build but I did some swapping of components.
Any thoughts? I'm sure I fucked this up somehow. This will be my first build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.78 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.00)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($190.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($52.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $854.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 20:35 EST-0500
EDIT: Also, should I wait for like... Cyber Monday or something to buy it?
This year for Christmas my wife aksed for a gaming PC. We were thinking of just getting an Alienware Alpha, but now we're inclined to build something.
This will mostly be used for comfy couch gaming. HDMI to a plasma TV. A lot of indie titles, but she'd like to be able to play next gen stuff too. The other thing is that we don't want it to be overly loud or ugly if it's going to be in the living room. We really like this case.
I basically hijacked this build from a PC Part picker build but I did some swapping of components.
Any thoughts? I'm sure I fucked this up somehow. This will be my first build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.78 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.00)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($190.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($52.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $854.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 20:35 EST-0500
EDIT: Also, should I wait for like... Cyber Monday or something to buy it?
Yeah. Me too. I dont really have the budget for one now but I don't think I could resist if I found a good 512 for $150. That'd be pretty ideal.
appaws
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I think that is a good build.
If there is one thing I can say is that if you can squeeze in a few extra bucks, you could look at a bit bigger of an SSD, maybe if there is a deal on a 256 gig or something. Just to have more room for games and to not have to move as much stuff around.
Also, I recommend using low profile RAM just to avoid having any problems mounting that CM Evo....often RAM with tall heatsinks (which are worthless) can bump up against the bottom of a CPU cooler.
Felix Lighter
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There are always good SSDs during the holiday sales. Other parts are hit or miss but SSDs always seem to have some winners out there.
appaws
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That is nonsense. A 7970 is roughly the same as a current R9 280X....still a very capable card.
Nvidia for less than $250....I guess you pretty much have to go for the 760 then. The top-tier card manufacturers are, IMO: EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI. The 2GB models are around $200 and the 4GB models are in the $250 range.
Thanks for the reply! I suppose I should just jack the RAM in the OP to be safe.
EDIT: Actually there isn't a specifc ram reccomended in the OP. Is there a good way to tell if something is low profile?
Since you want something for the living room, have you considered a smaller form factor, microATX or even mITX?
I had, but I honestly assumed it would be more difficult/expensive. I'm probably stupid and wrong.
IAmRandom31
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Solid build. 3GB of VRAM is bare minimum if you want to play the newer titles coming out effectively it seems.
Use the SSD for your OS layer and most used smaller programs only. Then you will have really fast bootups and then use the HDD for everything else.
All looks good to me anyway. You might want to think about going 16GB of Ram for better future proofing but that can be added simply later on if needed
Some have low profile in the name, generally just check that there are no huge heatsinks sticking out above the PCB.
I don't think it's more expensive, but cable management might be trickier in a tighter space. If you check the third post, mkenyon has some examples of smaller builts to get you started.
I'll play with that!
I'm assuming I should wait to buy anything until the big hliday sales happen right?
What's your budget? A few pages back LilJoka posted this example for an mITX built:
That's more than what you had, but when I swap in the CPU and GPU you picked, it's close:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.93 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.67 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($190.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $894.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 22:46 EST-0500
I have never done a mITX built myself though, so I'm just stealing what LilJoka did.
clockworkinyou
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So I have a GTX760 2GB I bought back in July.
If you were me, would you get a 970 and sell the 760?
I don't know why but I want a 970.
If you were me, would you get a 970 and sell the 760?
I don't know why but I want a 970.
Innnnnnnteresting. I'll have to run this by the old lady.
Our budget is basically $800, which, I'm pushing a bit as it is.
Bauer Action Hour
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Well, the 970 gives you almost double the framerate over a 760 and offers a good amount of future proofing. Those are some good reasons to want one.
To answer your question, it depends. If you're looking to game at 1080p @ 60fps and can handle lowering some settings below "ultra" then the 760 should be enough for a decent amount of time. If you want > 60fps @ 1080p, you can justify the upgrade. If you want > 1080p, you can justify the upgrade.
Vulcano's assistant
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Honestly, with my 1440p display, I would feel bad about playing the witcher 3 without at least a 970, so I would say that you should think of what games you are looking forward to, when they release, and whether they may need that power. If all points to yes, then yes.
opticalmace
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I would only consider it if the 760 is too slow for you, or you got a great deal on it. I tend to get 3-4 years out of my video cards, upgrading twice in one year seems wasteful to me.
What bottleneck? Your CPU won't bottleneck anything, especially when overclocked like that.
appaws
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The red and black combo is waaaaay too overdone right now in PC parts.
How much of an issue are AMD drivers? I'm going to be building a PC for the first time this coming Black Friday and thought this would be good to know.
Also, you couldn't overclock before?
They're perfectly fine in terms of stability but nvidia has some extra features.
Ooh okay. Is that why nvidia cards are more expensive than their counterpart amd cards? Are the extra features worth it?
Pretty much. It depends. Some are pretty cool, but it just depends on how much you value them.
jfoul
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A nice read for people having issues with GTX 900 series coil whine. Personally, I've gone through an ASUS Strix(ASIC 85%) and now a Gigabyte G1/Rev 1.1(ASIC 66%). Both had obnoxious coil whine and the Gigabyte was a dud for overclocking. Right now, I'm waiting on another G1 from Amazon.
Hardware Canucks
Graphics Card Coil Whine; An Investigation
PCPER - Older Article
GeForce GTX 970 Coil Whine Concerns
Hardware Canucks
Graphics Card Coil Whine; An Investigation
PCPER - Older Article
GeForce GTX 970 Coil Whine Concerns
Nikodemos
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I have a technical question regarding some BIOS settings.
I've recently unearthed my ancient Toshiba Satellite 2410 featuring a Pentium 4-M. While rummaging through its somewhat rudimentary BIOS, I've noticed that you can choose/switch the CPU's cache write policy between write-through and write-back. Which one would be better for an old gaming laptop? I'm trying to squeeze as much power out of it for classic turn-based stuff like Heroes 3, Disciples 2 etc.
I've recently unearthed my ancient Toshiba Satellite 2410 featuring a Pentium 4-M. While rummaging through its somewhat rudimentary BIOS, I've noticed that you can choose/switch the CPU's cache write policy between write-through and write-back. Which one would be better for an old gaming laptop? I'm trying to squeeze as much power out of it for classic turn-based stuff like Heroes 3, Disciples 2 etc.
Naked Snake
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ASIC don't mean jack bro, particularly for Nvidia cards.
jfoul
Member
Thanks for the heads up Naked Bro.
LiquidMetal14
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Surprised no one here has an x99 PC. Guess I will go and search other forums for insight.
d00d3n
Member
Well, that would be awesome. I am just thinking ahead. Obviously, the cpu doesn't bottleneck games right now (with the possible exception of Assassin's Creed Unity), but it seems like future games will be increasingly optimized for multi-threaded cpu work. I have bad memories from being stuck with a dual core cpu when console ports started to require quad core cpus, but I guess that I may be in a better position with my current cpu compared with consoles.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
halp!
My monitor has a mini-hdmi connector and I want to hook it with my PS3/4.
When doing that, however (hdmi from PS3 -> minihdmi to monitor) it doesn't give me a signal... no sound, no picture. What do I do
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Also, if my monitor doesn't have built-in speakers, what do I have to do in order to get sound from my PS3?
My monitor has a mini-hdmi connector and I want to hook it with my PS3/4.
When doing that, however (hdmi from PS3 -> minihdmi to monitor) it doesn't give me a signal... no sound, no picture. What do I do
?Also, if my monitor doesn't have built-in speakers, what do I have to do in order to get sound from my PS3?
I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I have some .bat questions. Currently, I have (and use) the following, to create symbolic links easily, without having to type it out every time:
It's a quick and dirty batch file that lets me copy and paste folder locations. However, I want to streamline it a bit. How can I change this so I can add it to the context menu, so I'd drag a file or folder with right click, and on the context menu it shows up as "Create link here" (similar to Create Shortcut here)
Edit: Never mind, I just downloaded a program to do it.
Code:
@echo off
REM Intro
echo Hello! If you haven't done so, please run this program in Admin mode, otherwise it won't work!
pause
echo This will make Windows think one folder is somewhere else - like a more advanced shortcut!
pause
echo Please remember to include the full address below (eg. C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe).
pause
REM Chosing the folders
set /p CopyTo= Which folder would you like to create?
pause
:CopyFrom
set /p CopyFrom= Which folder would you like to copy?
pause
:mklink
mklink /d "%CopyTo%" "%CopyFrom%"
pauseIt's a quick and dirty batch file that lets me copy and paste folder locations. However, I want to streamline it a bit. How can I change this so I can add it to the context menu, so I'd drag a file or folder with right click, and on the context menu it shows up as "Create link here" (similar to Create Shortcut here)
Edit: Never mind, I just downloaded a program to do it.
I know Intel is recommended over AMD as far as CPU's go for gaming but budget is a concern here. NewEgg currently has a discount combo deal for the AMD processor and motherboard I was looking at.
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
Right now I'm running a GeForce GTX 560. This will be upgraded early next year.
How much of a problem could I potentially have if I use that card with the FX-8320 vs the i5 4460 or i5 4430? The MB would be different with the i5s.
If I go with the FX-8320/MB combo I'm getting the two for $215 instead of near the $300 I was willing to spend when it's not discounted or if I went with the i5s. Seems like a great deal cost wise. Just worried about performance but I'd be upgrading from an AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8GHz Quad-Core so either I assume would be a increase. Or should I simply eat the cost? I'm not looking for top of the line but just a significant improvement.
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
Right now I'm running a GeForce GTX 560. This will be upgraded early next year.
How much of a problem could I potentially have if I use that card with the FX-8320 vs the i5 4460 or i5 4430? The MB would be different with the i5s.
If I go with the FX-8320/MB combo I'm getting the two for $215 instead of near the $300 I was willing to spend when it's not discounted or if I went with the i5s. Seems like a great deal cost wise. Just worried about performance but I'd be upgrading from an AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8GHz Quad-Core so either I assume would be a increase. Or should I simply eat the cost? I'm not looking for top of the line but just a significant improvement.
Hello all!
I'm in need of advice, as I'm currently looking into replacing my graphics card.
Here are my current specs (not sure what is/isn't important so I'm listing every bit of info I can find):
Intel Core i5 3570K @3.40GHz, 3.40Ghz
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45
MSI Nvidia Geforce GTX560 1GO PCIE
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64bit
Power Supply: Corsair TX650W V2 CMPSU-650TXV2
Fan/Case: Cooler master hyper 612S (H-B6) - RR-H612-13FK-R1
I'd like to replace the current graphics card by something that would allow streaming to an nvidia device, such as the shield, along with some gaming. I use 1920x1200 resolutions and don't overclock/go beyond that.
I was looking into the Geforce GTX 970 or 980, but I'm not actually sure the rest of my configuration would allow for that. Which is why I turn to you!
My questions then:
-would the GTX 970 or 980 work with my current setup if nothing else changes?
-which of the two would be best?
-if none of these two, which would be best for the intended purpose (game streaming, gaming)? (addendum: do I need to replace anything else for streaming?)
-is replacing this card something I can do by myself, considering I'm very inexperienced in the matter?
Thanks in advance for any help in the matter!
I'm in need of advice, as I'm currently looking into replacing my graphics card.
Here are my current specs (not sure what is/isn't important so I'm listing every bit of info I can find):
Intel Core i5 3570K @3.40GHz, 3.40Ghz
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45
MSI Nvidia Geforce GTX560 1GO PCIE
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64bit
Power Supply: Corsair TX650W V2 CMPSU-650TXV2
Fan/Case: Cooler master hyper 612S (H-B6) - RR-H612-13FK-R1
I'd like to replace the current graphics card by something that would allow streaming to an nvidia device, such as the shield, along with some gaming. I use 1920x1200 resolutions and don't overclock/go beyond that.
I was looking into the Geforce GTX 970 or 980, but I'm not actually sure the rest of my configuration would allow for that. Which is why I turn to you!
My questions then:
-would the GTX 970 or 980 work with my current setup if nothing else changes?
-which of the two would be best?
-if none of these two, which would be best for the intended purpose (game streaming, gaming)? (addendum: do I need to replace anything else for streaming?)
-is replacing this card something I can do by myself, considering I'm very inexperienced in the matter?
Thanks in advance for any help in the matter!
-Yes, I think a 970 would be a good fit, 980 would work too if it fits the budget. Maybe go up to 16GB RAM, I wouldn't change anything else.
-You can and should definitely do it yourself, it's easy and be done within a few minutes.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Don't get the 8320. It will be a bottleneck for games.
A friend of mine settled for that instead of jumping to an 8350 or even a decent i5 CPU for around 30 more.
Jay, installed the new RAM, and now everything works perfectly! No more blue screens during advanced warfare! However, when checking if everything works fine, something else made me worried: MSI afterburner gave CPU temperatures in the 90-100 degrees range. Idle it is a stable 55 degrees, but when playing a game or downloading something, it skyrockets to around 95 degrees. That isn't very healthy, right?
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