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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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GHG
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Is it a bad idea to invest in the 2011 socket now? A 3930k is damn well tempting at the moment.
If I get one and an x99 motherboard will I be able to carry over the 16gb RAM in my existing machine (3570k build) or will I need to buy new RAM as well?
Or should I just wait until the next round (I have a 4.6 ghz 3570k at the moment)?
I would be pairing this with sli 970's or 980's or a Titan Z by the way (still undecided here).
If I get one and an x99 motherboard will I be able to carry over the 16gb RAM in my existing machine (3570k build) or will I need to buy new RAM as well?
Or should I just wait until the next round (I have a 4.6 ghz 3570k at the moment)?
I would be pairing this with sli 970's or 980's or a Titan Z by the way (still undecided here).
Damerman
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I've seen plenty of reviews for it and if i could, i would have got it over the NZXT s340. The only thing that bothers me about that case is the fact that its 20 inches tall rather than 17 inches like the s340.
The case is very nice looking, sound dampeners, a lot of cooling options and very easy cable management. I'd go for that case no matter what.
DarkoMaledictus
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GHG
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X99 uses ddr4, so you need new expensive ram.
Yeh I just looked at the prices of DDR4... Holy batman. Is this stuff worth the extra cost?
Yea the reviews I read all seemed pretty good as well, only one random one got me worried for some reason.
I'm a bit put off by the sound dampening ripping when putting the right side on though.
GHG
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If it's not yielding better performance I'm not really seeing the point in spending all that cash then.
Is a x79 motherboard a bad investment at the moment?
Does the 3930k work on those boards?
So, which K processor would you recommend, i5-4690K?
DarkoMaledictus
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Nostremitus
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I've recently moved to a country where the cost of electricity increases exponentially as you use it. So, I need to build an HTPC that is as low powered and cheap as possible to be on 24/7 as my phone will be connected to it. It will be used exclusively to watch movies and talk VOIP. This is what I've been playing around with, PC Partpicker has it at 74W, total. Before anyone asks, the G3258 pulls over twice the watts.
GHG
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Thanks guys.
Might just stick with my 3570k for a while longer and see how I go then.
Will just do the GPU upgrade for now. I'm just sceptical about how long 4gb VRAM will last for, especially when I plan on upgrading to 4k in the near future. Might go for the titan z just for the 6gb.
Might just stick with my 3570k for a while longer and see how I go then.
Will just do the GPU upgrade for now. I'm just sceptical about how long 4gb VRAM will last for, especially when I plan on upgrading to 4k in the near future. Might go for the titan z just for the 6gb.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Sound like a plan. Getting a 1250w but have never done 3 way SLI.Only 2 way.
Boss Man
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You should get a SSD for storage. Going to add to the cost, but the performance boost and energy savings are hard to pass on.
Nostremitus
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That's a balancing act between cost/TDP/storage space. Going with a reasonably priced SSD would require that I buy a HDD for storage anyway. That would increase the wattage and price. I can't justify dropping a $400 SSD into a $200 build.
Never asked this before actually but: What's the best/cheapest way to get a remote to control your PC? Particularly for multimedia tasks?
My PC is hooked up to a TV but I never got around to investigating actual remotes. My wireless keyboard (that works with a USB dongle) has play/pause buttons that work with most media programs I guess. I imagine there are remotes that work with the same kind of signal? And I'm pretty sure XBMC is designed to work with that kind of stuff right?
Lastly, if I were to upgrade to Windows 8 one day (it does seem to make more sense on an HTPC), there are ways to get regular remotes to control the Metro UI right? Or at least an Xbox controller.
My PC is hooked up to a TV but I never got around to investigating actual remotes. My wireless keyboard (that works with a USB dongle) has play/pause buttons that work with most media programs I guess. I imagine there are remotes that work with the same kind of signal? And I'm pretty sure XBMC is designed to work with that kind of stuff right?
Lastly, if I were to upgrade to Windows 8 one day (it does seem to make more sense on an HTPC), there are ways to get regular remotes to control the Metro UI right? Or at least an Xbox controller.
Frankfurter
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No reason to get a 1250W PSU. Even a good bit overclocked a single 970 only draws about 200W.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
A 6 core Intel draws over 500w by itself overclocked though. I'm not playing it safe with another 850w PSU and 3 potential GPU's.
I have a very good idea in terms of what the power requirements would be on even a 5930 ok. That's why I don't want to settle on a meager 850w PSU. I'm coming right now with a Sandy Bridge E x99 based system. I understand the thoughts and prices regarding a high end build.this is why the only thing that looks out of line with me, as someone you should consider an enthusiast builder, I really only consider the memory cost as something more of a premium. I'm carrying over optical and hard drives and my case. This will probably at least see me in the neighborhood of around four to six hundred dollars on this particular build. I'm really only investing in five core components. CPU, 2 or 3 GP use, motherboard, memory,and a good CPU cooler.
Intend to stay high end as I've had enthusiast level rigs for around 2 to 3 years now. Even before that I had a very good Sandy Bridge 2500 K based system. It also helps that I'm offsetting costs of this particular haswell-e build with me selling my current X 79 build.
DarkoMaledictus
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hmm i used a Killawatt on my 3960x running 4.6Ghz 1.40v, prime95 small fft, hit around 250-300W at the wall. At 80% efficiency thats 240W from the PSU 12v rail. 500W would be insane! No conventional cooling could even dissipate that. I was using a Thermalright Silver Arrow SB Extreme air cooler. PSU was a Corsair TX650.
systematic
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That's not true. I assume you arrived at that 500W figure by measuring by a power meter via. the wall, which means that figure also includes the power consumed by the motherboard, storage, GPU etc.
Almost done with my first ever build. Before I install the GPU, I just have the storage devices next. The SATA cable that goes into the PSU has 3 connectors to go into the hard drives. can I use the one cable to power both my HDD and SSD, or do they each need their own cable?
The 4690K would be great. It's recommended in the OP.
You can connect them to the same sata power cable.
Even that is unrealistic, unless you ran some GPU bench simultaneously with a CPU stress test.
You can power both on one cable so config it to whatever fits best in your case.
To be clear the SATA cable connects your HDD and SSD to your motherboard so make sure you have that connected also.
Edit: maybe the power cable is also called SATA? Either way make sure everything is connected
Cheers. Forgot to ask, should I be plugging the drives into the SATA 3 or Express ports?
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
This can't be right! I'm running an overclocked Sandy-E 3930K with a 290 (also OC'ed), 2 SSHD, 2 SSD all on a 500W PSU with no issues.
SSDs in sata 3 ports to max speed. HDDs in sata 2 or 3 ports.
hey all , havent built a pc in forever and was looking for advice. So im looking to spend around 1300$ and want a gaming rig. was shopping around and fell on this which seems interesting and wanted opinions or better options.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc_new/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=9554B1C9-626D-4C13-87DC90D921007B06-6127903
thanks for the help
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc_new/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=9554B1C9-626D-4C13-87DC90D921007B06-6127903
thanks for the help
PaperFlame
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I did some more research and was wondering if this would a good deal to get now, or if I should wait until black friday to see if I can get a better deal.
Budget: 1,500
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
(Price: 279.99 @ Microcenter)
Ram: AMD 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
(Price: 160 @ Amazon)
MotherBoard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
(Price 124.20 @ Newegg)
GPU: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card
(Price 286.53 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
(Price:34.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
(Price: 65 @ Microcenter)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Price 65.49 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DGX 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card
(Price: 27.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
(Price: 16.99 @ OutletPC)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
(Price: 279.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: 1061.18
I want to get this pc mainly for gaming and working on my artwork. I'm going to use it for slight video editing and making music. I also don't want to overclock it, so I'm not sure if my power supply is too powerful. .
I'm still not sure what monitor/headset/keyboard/and mouse to get.
My deadline would be black friday/cyber monday.
Budget: 1,500
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
(Price: 279.99 @ Microcenter)
Ram: AMD 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
(Price: 160 @ Amazon)
MotherBoard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
(Price 124.20 @ Newegg)
GPU: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card
(Price 286.53 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
(Price:34.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
(Price: 65 @ Microcenter)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Price 65.49 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DGX 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card
(Price: 27.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
(Price: 16.99 @ OutletPC)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
(Price: 279.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: 1061.18
I want to get this pc mainly for gaming and working on my artwork. I'm going to use it for slight video editing and making music. I also don't want to overclock it, so I'm not sure if my power supply is too powerful. .
I'm still not sure what monitor/headset/keyboard/and mouse to get.
My deadline would be black friday/cyber monday.
If you can't stretch to 970 then this 290 is 250 after rebate. 280X should be even cheaper if you search around.
Which cables should I use to power my Gigabyte GTX 970? It's got an 8-pin and 6-pin connector. The cables labelled VGA with my PSU only have 6+2 pin connectors and the card itself came with 8-pin and 6-pin molex(?) connectors.
Do I just need to use two of those VGA cables (using one with 6+2 pin connected and the other with just the 6) or should I be using those ones that came with the GPU?
Do I just need to use two of those VGA cables (using one with 6+2 pin connected and the other with just the 6) or should I be using those ones that came with the GPU?
Don't use the cable adaptors that came with the card. Those are only to be used in case you have an older power supply that doesn't come with the right cable connectors.
Yes, just plug in your power supply's 6+2 pin cable into the 8 pin port, and just the 6 pin without the extra 2 pins into the 6 pin port.
hey all , havent built a pc in forever and was looking for advice. So im looking to spend around 1300$ and want a gaming rig. was shopping around and fell on this which seems interesting and wanted opinions or better options.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc_new/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=9554B1C9-626D-4C13-87DC90D921007B06-6127903
thanks for the help
That system cheaps out on the motherboard, they went with a older B85 chipset instead of the usual Z97 performance motherboard. Here's the value of all the parts if you choose to buy them yourself. That doesn't include extras like the 2 free games, free hat and T-shirt, of course. You stand to save $140+ if you build it yourself, as well as being able to change some parts out for better ones.
Write-back.
Use the PSUs VGA cables.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I read up on this over a year ago on my 3930k. The thing is, maybe mine required more juice ad that's the kind of choose I got. 2 OC'd 789ti's and the 4.6ghz CPU at 1.360 vcore caused my 850w to kick off. And that thing pulls almost 1000w from the wall.
I suppose that running the two high end graphics cards as well as probably 12 chassis fans and all the other components put my PSU through its paces. I really don't know but I went through all this trouble shooting and all this last year when I had my overclock on the six core CPU and two very high end graphics cards. I went ahead and read several reviews from websites that pulled these numbers from my CPU. I suspect the 5930k is more power efficient but I can only remember what I read and once I turn down my overclocks and basically went back to stock levels on both the CPU and two GPUs, everything was more stable and I had less or no more system shutdown s.
Have fun with what you have, don't work yourself up about these things, you never know what will happen in the future. Also remember consoles have a shared memory architecture, so 8gb gddr5/3 includes system memory and graphics memory. I think 4gb should be good for a few years.
I'll most likely end up keeping it since I got it for $350 and the ones that are in stock are selling for $400. I'll be playing at 1080p as well, so I won't have to worry about requirements for 4k. I was just concerned with games in the upcoming future being vram hogs, akin to Evil Within and Mordor.
No chance of an 8GB any time soon, and I don't see the need for them either.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
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My monitor has a mini-hdmi connector and I want to hook it with my PS3/4.
When doing that, however (hdmi from PS3 -> minihdmi to monitor) it doesn't give me a signal... no sound, no picture. What do I do
Also, if my monitor doesn't have built-in speakers, what do I have to do in order to get sound from my PS3?
What's your monitor's model?
As for audio, you can choose to route your PS3 audio through optical, or even a Component/AV cable. Not sure if that's doable on a PS4
PC works!
Nothing happened when I first pressed the power button but it suddenly came on after a few seconds, almost kicked off big time. I'm a little surprised and disappointed how I'm not more excited, having been planning this for a year, but I suppose that's down to it taking me bloody ages to put it together and it's 2AM now. I'll install the OS tomorrow.
I did want to ask though, it can't be normal for the CPU to be at like 55°C just in the BIOS, right? My CPU is a i7 4790K and the boost clock had it going at 4.4Ghz so I get it might be a little hotter than some other CPUs, but I wouldn't have thought that hot. I'm using a Hyper 212 cooler with it which had two fans attached. I'm not sure if it might be down to me cocking up slightly when installing the cooler. The cross-arm screw thingymajig needed a bit of force for me to get all of the screws in (not too forceful or anything, but I did almost shit myself doing it) and perhaps the thermal paste didn't get a completely clean spread as the heat sink moved slightly a few times.
I did want to ask though, it can't be normal for the CPU to be at like 55°C just in the BIOS, right? My CPU is a i7 4790K and the boost clock had it going at 4.4Ghz so I get it might be a little hotter than some other CPUs, but I wouldn't have thought that hot. I'm using a Hyper 212 cooler with it which had two fans attached. I'm not sure if it might be down to me cocking up slightly when installing the cooler. The cross-arm screw thingymajig needed a bit of force for me to get all of the screws in (not too forceful or anything, but I did almost shit myself doing it) and perhaps the thermal paste didn't get a completely clean spread as the heat sink moved slightly a few times.
55C sounds too much. I have a 4790k and with the same cooler I had low 30s idling. What are the voltage settings in the BIOS?
And yes, mounting that cross-arm thing was a bit finicky.
ab.aeterno
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Cross-posting from the 970/980 thread, since there's not much activity there. Would love some thoughts.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?s..._-cables-_-na-_-na&itemnumber=N82E16817182285
Is this Power supply worth jumping on?
Is this Power supply worth jumping on?
Newbie here. I've been looking around on pcpartpicker and ended with the below for the important stuff. Will a build based on that run? I'd want to play AC Unity and pcsx2 in 1080p
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
I'm especially lost when it comes to picking a motherboard.
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
I'm especially lost when it comes to picking a motherboard.
I'll check it out again in the morning/afternoon and report back. I had it on for about 20 minutes and it was only that hot for a couple of minutes, it seemed to be around 42°C otherwise. Hopefully it's just a easy voltage change away from fixing.
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