Syphon Filter
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I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 sound card lying around and i was wondering if i can use that for my modern PC? I believe it was a card form around 2002.
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Don't bother. The onboard will be better. I've tested this.
Syphon Filter
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Wouldn't it help with audio issues for older games on modern pc's? For example direct3dsound.
TERRORIFFIC
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Case--------Cosair Air 540
Mobo--------MSI Z97 Gaming 7
CPU---------Core i5 4570
FAN---------Antec Kuhler H2O 950
PSU---------EVGA Supernova 1330
RAM---------G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB
SSD---------Samsung 840 Evo 240
HDD---------2Barracuda 2TB
Video--------R9 290 x2 CF
Sound------????
Here is my dilemma, I am sure if I want to get a separate sound card with a build in headphone amp http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-xonar-essence-stx-pci-e1-84-35724.htm or upgrade the motherboard to http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-z97-gaming-9-ac-46-97040-1360.htm.
I really care about the audio quality as I am using Bower and Wilkins P7 headphone with my rig.
Mobo--------MSI Z97 Gaming 7
CPU---------Core i5 4570
FAN---------Antec Kuhler H2O 950
PSU---------EVGA Supernova 1330
RAM---------G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB
SSD---------Samsung 840 Evo 240
HDD---------2Barracuda 2TB
Video--------R9 290 x2 CF
Sound------????
Here is my dilemma, I am sure if I want to get a separate sound card with a build in headphone amp http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-xonar-essence-stx-pci-e1-84-35724.htm or upgrade the motherboard to http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-z97-gaming-9-ac-46-97040-1360.htm.
I really care about the audio quality as I am using Bower and Wilkins P7 headphone with my rig.
The modern OS drivers are super stripped down so I doubt it.
Read your manual. If the slot is 8x or 16x it won't matter.
sell the 760s and get a 780
Building my first PC in 4.5 years. This will be mostly for gaming but kinda planning to use MAYA and possibly Unity in the near future.
About to pull the trigger on almost everything except the GPU. Goal is playing w/ ultra settings, 60 fps in all the newest games. Will be gaming mostly on my 1080p plasma and only using my 2048x1152 monitor for DOTA2 and other K&M games. Leaning towards 290/290X for the value.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $948.91
+GPU
As you can see I'm pretty much going with all the stuff in Haz's enthusiast build but not sure about the CPU cooler. I prefer the looks of the Corsair but maybe I should just stick with the 212 EVO?
I'm also unsure about the RAM. Should I just go for 2x8 now if I can afford it? Maybe go for 2x4 @ 1866MHz instead?
Casewise, I might go for the Enthoo Pro if it was out but don't think I want to wait. The H440 seems pretty awesome and looks nice as well. Anyone have thoughts on it?
Oh and I need thermal coumpound for the CPU Cooler right? Thanks!
About to pull the trigger on almost everything except the GPU. Goal is playing w/ ultra settings, 60 fps in all the newest games. Will be gaming mostly on my 1080p plasma and only using my 2048x1152 monitor for DOTA2 and other K&M games. Leaning towards 290/290X for the value.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $948.91
+GPU
As you can see I'm pretty much going with all the stuff in Haz's enthusiast build but not sure about the CPU cooler. I prefer the looks of the Corsair but maybe I should just stick with the 212 EVO?
I'm also unsure about the RAM. Should I just go for 2x8 now if I can afford it? Maybe go for 2x4 @ 1866MHz instead?
Casewise, I might go for the Enthoo Pro if it was out but don't think I want to wait. The H440 seems pretty awesome and looks nice as well. Anyone have thoughts on it?
Oh and I need thermal coumpound for the CPU Cooler right? Thanks!
They change this around, but I'd get the G7 there.So I'm going to pay for my i7 4790k but before I do, is there a motherboard out of these deals I can bundle with and save? Total noob towards this stuff and I'm not planning to build yet maybe in 2 months tops.
Soundblaster Z or the ASUS DGX imo. Audio quality differences are extremely minor above those for most people, you can buy the Xonar STX and compare if you want. Like to hear your impressions if you do compare.
2x8GB
H80i is for looks and freeing up space to work in the case. Effective performance will be similar.
Good case.
212 comes with a tube, H80 comes with pre applied, but if you ever need to make adjustments to the mount then you'll want to get some extra. PK3, Noctua, MX-4, Phobya, etc. AS5 is old.
You can swap in the EVGA Supernova 750W too if you like instead
No need for thermal grease.
Swap the PSU to this and save some cash, as well as getting a better unit http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usa...vpn=P1-750B-BEFX&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1264
H80i is fine. H60 is also worth a look. You'll not go wrong with any of those or the 212. Going for the Corsair does make building easier and if you ever need to work inside your case it's less constricting than the air cooler.
The RAM is fine. You can get 1866 stuff for the same price if you don't mind red DIMMs http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E9014/?tag=neogaf0e-20
GPU wise check the BST thread. R9 290 ASUS DCU II for $300. Warranty is transferable too.
H440 is a good case.
Someone comfort me 
I tried building my first PC and it's not turning on. I'm not sure what's going on because after I installed the CPU + heatsink I tried turning it on and it worked fine. At some point between that and putting it in the case, something went wrong and now I feel like I pooped $1400 down the drain.
I tried building my first PC and it's not turning on. I'm not sure what's going on because after I installed the CPU + heatsink I tried turning it on and it worked fine. At some point between that and putting it in the case, something went wrong and now I feel like I pooped $1400 down the drain.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
This is it:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.43 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.04 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.18 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.74)
Total: $568.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
For some reason the site didn't have the power supply I got:
Power Supply: EVGA 500B 500W 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V 500W Power Supply ($48.91)
The reason I'm picking amazon is because I can use my discover cash back on there and I have prime shipping. I will get another stick of ram next week. I just want to build it for now, I will also get a graphics card later
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.43 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.04 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.18 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.74)
Total: $568.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
For some reason the site didn't have the power supply I got:
Power Supply: EVGA 500B 500W 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V 500W Power Supply ($48.91)
The reason I'm picking amazon is because I can use my discover cash back on there and I have prime shipping. I will get another stick of ram next week. I just want to build it for now, I will also get a graphics card later
Lonewolf_92
Member
So, still working on my first build, I have a budget of $1327.07 (US) to work with and have been using pcpartpicker.com to try to get the most bang for my buck. This is what I have so far:
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
RAM: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
HDD: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB AMP! Edition
Case: RAIDMAX Agusta
PCU: Corsair Builder 500W
Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
And a Brand Anti Static ESD Wrist Strap
Total: $1319.59 (taking promo and combo discounts and shipping into account)
Can anybody spot where I might improve on this while staying in budget? Or anything I should look out for? I'm hoping to have things ordered by next Sunday/Monday (July 5/6)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
RAM: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
HDD: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB AMP! Edition
Case: RAIDMAX Agusta
PCU: Corsair Builder 500W
Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
And a Brand Anti Static ESD Wrist Strap
Total: $1319.59 (taking promo and combo discounts and shipping into account)
Can anybody spot where I might improve on this while staying in budget? Or anything I should look out for? I'm hoping to have things ordered by next Sunday/Monday (July 5/6)
Someone comfort me
I tried building my first PC and it's not turning on. I'm not sure what's going on because after I installed the CPU + heatsink I tried turning it on and it worked fine. At some point between that and putting it in the case, something went wrong and now I feel like I pooped $1400 down the drain.
Any other details you can give us? If we can isolate the broken part, should be easy to figure out whats going on.
Just finished my new build! Ran into some problems with my SSD, though. The power supply I have has power cables that end in "L" shapes but I need straight ones. Guess I'll have to buy an extender or something, because it fits and is connected, but I feel uncomfortable with it like that.
It's not cost effective to buy RAM in that way.
Do you own a PSU already?
Consider buying Windows from Reddit? It'll be $15-20 but likely an MSDN copy.
Are you set on Nvidia? An R9 290 will give you significantly better bang for buck compared to it.
Check to see what common errors you might be getting:Someone comfort me
I tried building my first PC and it's not turning on. I'm not sure what's going on because after I installed the CPU + heatsink I tried turning it on and it worked fine. At some point between that and putting it in the case, something went wrong and now I feel like I pooped $1400 down the drain.
Fans turn for 1 second?
Beeps or no beeps? Look up beep codes. Mobo have a ## display? Check error codes.
No fans turn?
Walk through the HELP MY PC WONT TURN ON section in the OP as post your results. 90% of the time it is something silly.
You put in your standoffs?
Fill out the OP.
Don't need a wriststrap
CX500 and GTX780 is a no
Team memory is ok, but I doubt its saving you more than like $1, go for a bigger brand
RAIDMAX case is ugh
PC MATE mobo?
Need a 4790K instead.
Basically defend your choices compared to the preselected parts if you are making a swap, know why you are swapping the part.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I'm not super technical so I don't really know what details I can give. I don't think I did anything obviously stupid with the parts. Could putting the case down on carpet while the mobo was still in it cause a problem?
Edit: No LED/beeping from mother board.
Edit2: I'm going through some trouble shooting stuff. A friend of mine who regularly builds PC's is coming over in a bit to help out, hopefully he can catch it.
So when you turn it on, nothing happens? No fans or anything turn on?
Nostremitus
Member
If my wife's car repairs aren't too costly I'll probably order these this evening, unless someone can point me at something better for the price.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0D81OG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DGHKK7M/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Edit: I had listed the wrong EVGA PSU, I meant to post the 500B
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0D81OG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DGHKK7M/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Edit: I had listed the wrong EVGA PSU, I meant to post the 500B
Alright, I think I'm done with all my selections. Anyone have any comments before I make my purchase?
Amazon
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Chassis with Window Cases PH-ES614P ($99.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003 ($49.99)
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) ($30.99)
On NewEgg
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($134.99)
Processor: Intel Core i5-4690K Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K ($239.99)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ($84.99)
SSD: Crucial MX100 CT128MX100SSD1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($77.99)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready ($89.99)
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM ($19.99)
Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100363L Radeon R9 280X 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (259.99)
Case Fan: COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing (Fluid) 300,000 Hours 12CM Silent Cooling Fan ($16.99)
Amazon
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Chassis with Window Cases PH-ES614P ($99.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003 ($49.99)
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) ($30.99)
On NewEgg
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($134.99)
Processor: Intel Core i5-4690K Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K ($239.99)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ($84.99)
SSD: Crucial MX100 CT128MX100SSD1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($77.99)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready ($89.99)
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM ($19.99)
Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100363L Radeon R9 280X 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (259.99)
Case Fan: COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing (Fluid) 300,000 Hours 12CM Silent Cooling Fan ($16.99)
Nothing at all. Originally when i took the tip of a screwdriver to the pins that turned it on it worked, after I was at the point where I had connected the case nothing happened so I unplugged it and tried the screwdriver thing but now ever that thing isn't working.
Have a read of this http://www.reddit.com/r/softwareswa...ndows_7_8_81_office_2013_2010_2011_mac_visio/
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi H81S2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Total: $459.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Swap the RAM to the stuff I have in the build above.
Swap the PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Lonewolf_92
Member
Pretty set, I never liked Radeon cards that much.
Your Current Specs: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor / Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory / MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 / Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB AMP! Edition / Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply / RAIDMAX Agusta / Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
Budget: $1327.07 (US)
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming (5), Gaming (5), Emulation (PS2/Wii) (4), Video Editing, Streaming games in HD, 3D/Model work (All 1), General Usage (5).
Monitor Resolution: Looking for a decent res, I'll be using my current ASUS Monitor.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Current and upcoming games would be ideal. I don't mind 30 FPS but would prefer 60. Highest settings prefered but not required.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Monitor, keyboard, and Mouse.
When will you build?: Looking to buy my parts around July 5 or 6
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe
I'll feel safer with the anti-static wriststrap.
pcpartpicker gives this build an estimated wattage of 442W, so why wouldn't the CX500 work?
The Team memory is $4 dollars less than the comparable Kingston (and I'm cutting pretty close to my budget with this build).
The Raidmax case is the cheapest full tower available.
MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150. Anothe Gaffer recommended I switch to a Z97 mobo and it's the cheapest.
What's the benefit of a 4790K over what I have? (Keep in mind the last time I built a PC Pentium II was cutting edge).
CX models are mediocre.
More chance of DOA with that RAM.
Why a full tower? A mid is plenty big.
4790K has a better base clock and should OC a bit better.
You don't need 16GB of RAM either for gaming.
No SSD in a build that price is criminal.
Lonewolf_92
Member
Can you recommend a better one in my price range? Finding a good rated model to fit my price range with my other parts has been a challenge for me.
I'm cutting it pretty close to my budget with this build, and the less I have to add/replace in the future, the better.
I prefer a full tower (especially to work in) and there's something to say for the gimmicky look of the thing.
Were at? Keep in mind that I'm just $7.48 under budget with the build as it currently is (that includes a $20 combo discount for the CPU/mobo).
I grew up in the days of the Commodore 64, wait time isn't a big deal to me.
you poor thing...
If you're that close to your budget you should ditch the i7 idea and get the 4690K instead, in order to focus on stuff that will actually make a difference, like an SSD.
RedBullEnergy
Member
Guys, dunno if this is the right thread for PC problems but...
Since my new build I've had no problems, except every once and a while the computer wouldn't come back to life after going into sleep mode (or so I thought). The monitors would power down and hitting any key or moving the mouse would NOT bring it back. This has probably happened 4 or 5 times in 6 months.
I set the PC not to go into sleep mode, thinking it was a glitch causing it. Well whats just happened tonight was the entire PC locked up (I was AFK) for seemingly no reason. Except this time the monitors etc were on because I had changed those settings so presumably it's the SAME problem, whatever it may be.
CPU and Mobo temps are fairly normal for summer, doesn't seem to be an heating issue. Fans were still running, CD Tray ejected fine etc. Just screens were locked.
Any suggestions/help/magic?
Since my new build I've had no problems, except every once and a while the computer wouldn't come back to life after going into sleep mode (or so I thought). The monitors would power down and hitting any key or moving the mouse would NOT bring it back. This has probably happened 4 or 5 times in 6 months.
I set the PC not to go into sleep mode, thinking it was a glitch causing it. Well whats just happened tonight was the entire PC locked up (I was AFK) for seemingly no reason. Except this time the monitors etc were on because I had changed those settings so presumably it's the SAME problem, whatever it may be.
CPU and Mobo temps are fairly normal for summer, doesn't seem to be an heating issue. Fans were still running, CD Tray ejected fine etc. Just screens were locked.
Any suggestions/help/magic?
Lonewolf_92
Member
Honestly, I'm fine with a standard HDD and load times. Adding an SSD later and sticking with an i7 seems like a better choice to me.
Okay looks Iike I will go with the 750G2 unless anyone objects. <$100 with a rebate.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Just gotta decide on the GPU and pull the trigger on the rest! At least it will feel like I'm spending less than I am because of my Amazon Gift Card balance.
If you wanna go through the hassle of installing Windows again, sure. But going SSD first is so much easier.
It's your choice but I think you have a very unbalanced build, honestly. You're getting two high-end components and then surrounding it with stuff that's a little junky, and you're not even sticking a small SSD in there which should be standard for any half-decent build.
/2c
I'm sorry that you feel that way. An SSD makes the entire windows experience faster. It's more than just load times and boot times. You're way better off getting the SSD first and a hard drive later. You just have a lot of weird choices in your build for no good reason other than 'budget'. But a good build is more than just getting an i7 and a 780. It's about having a balanced computer. You would have a much better experience overall with a quality built i5 with a 290.
But hey. It's your money.
Lonewolf_92
Member
I can always get something like this one after getting the mail-in rebates back. I don't mind reinstalling Windows. Installing a hard drive and reinstalling Windows is still faster/cheaper than maybe needing to buy/install a new CPU down the road.
As an aside, that SSD is also junk.
Hmm? Is there any advantage to the Rosewill HIVE Power Supply comparedto the SeaSOnic M12II aside from being a bit cheaper?
Lonewolf:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
If you wanna change the case for something bigger then okay, if you wanna switch the 4670K to the newer 4690K then okay.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
If you wanna change the case for something bigger then okay, if you wanna switch the 4670K to the newer 4690K then okay.
Nostremitus
Member
I'm about bout to re-install Windows 8.1 on my SSD.
Lonewolf_92
Member
How is it "unbalanced" and what stuff is "a little junky"? What would you replace them with while staying within my budget while focusing on making the best gaming system possible? I'm in this thread looking for advice to improve what I have selected so far, noting is set in stone (although I'm sticking with those two aforementioned high-end components, because price-wise those two parts would be the most costly to replace later on and I'm pretty low income, and I'm not really sold on the apparent need of a SSD).
It's significantly cheaper. That Seasonic is terrible value. You can get a Seasonic made XFX 750W fully modular Gold PSU for that price.
For the PSU http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive650
Mid-tower cases aren't small to work in. A full tower is a waste unless you're doing full loop water cooling. Unless you're doing that there is ZERO need for one.
I can't not recommend that case enough. Too big and it's hideous.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN951N 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($28.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $1299.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
An example of a better, much more balanced build.
As the others have said you've made some odd choices, and we can't stop you buying what you want at the end of the day.
Lonewolf_92
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OEM license can be used for personal use. It'll work.
This looks good! Thanks for doing this.
hey hey i helped too man
Nah seriously, kharma's build rocks.
This looks good! Thanks for doing this.
No worries. It's a route to investigate. You could cut costs by going for the 4770K, or even a 4670K as well as change the mobo to a Z97 Pro 3 if budget is tight.
You could even go mATX if you're only getting a single GPU but since you were after a full tower originally I didn't want to suggest mATX straight off the bat
The case from Monosukoi's build is lovely thoughStill good space in it for a small case
mATX is the perfect size imo for a single GPU build.
Boss Mog
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I still use my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS in my current rig. As long as your motherboard has at least one old PCI slot then you can use it. While old PCI slots are getting scarce on new motherboards these days, you can still find them on some of the current boards.
The Audigy 2 ZS is such a good sound card compared to most of the sub $100 cards of today and you can get em for like $10-15 used on eBay.
Lonewolf_92
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You too.
Kharma's build is $20 over my budget (when you take out the mail-in rebates, since my budget doesn't take them into account), and doesn't include a copy of Windows (or an optical drive of any description) but it gives me something to work from at least.
I feel like this is a super common question but I can't really find a clear answer for it. Whats the max safe temp for an i7 4790k? Currently have mine at 4.5Ghz at 1.150V, and after half an hour of Prime95 its generally in the high 60's with the max temps 73-74. Gonna try cutting the voltage more, but my temps are fine, right?
Yes perfectly fine. 80-85c is as hot as you'd want to go.
You too.
Kharma's build is $20 over my budget (when you take out the mail-in rebates, since my budget doesn't take them into account), and doesn't include a copy of Windows (or an optical drive of any description) but it gives me something to work from at least.
Optical drives? This isn't the 2000s
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