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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Would've rather you went for a single 780 Ti or 290X to be honest. Unless you got a bargain deal there's no reason to go Z87 now. As mentioned above, 1000W is overkill for almost any build bar tri or quad-SLI setups, but I can't blame you for choosing the G2, it might be a PSU for life.
As for SSD, the thread title is your friend! Grab an 256GB or 512GB MX100.
boneso
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Thanks for the reply. The 2 770's beat the 780ti in performance and both together cost me about £200 less than the single ti.
I went for the G45 Gaming as i got a very good sale price deal, same goes for the G2, the 1000w was cheaper than the 850w at the time, so i thought... why the hell not
I think i will go for the 256gb MX100, thanks.
ramoisdead
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Followed the build sheet on the OP, and decided on this. Especially since I really don't live in a huge room so I don't need a big desktop. Any feedback is welcomed. Didn't list a GPU yet but I am settling on a 290/290x.
CPU: i7-4790k
Mobo: GIGABYTE Z97x-gaming7
RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB)
SSD: Samsung EVO 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB
SSHD: Seagate 2TB
Case: BitFenix Prodigy/Phenom
PSU: SeaSonic SSR-650RM 650W
Heatsink: Corsair H60
Nevermind this.
I did something weird:
So last week I ordered 2x240GB SSD to replace my 1x60GB SSD that was dying. While ordering those, one of my 2x3TB HD that I was using as an overrun and installing larger software died. So I did something without too much research...
I got 2x2TB SSHD that I plan to run mirrored just like my 2x240GB SSD. People have seen interesting success with SSHD performance but can I expect the same sort of performance savings when it comes to mirroring them? My main concern is read performance.
Thanks for the confirmation. I just ordered it. I got the cheapest one on the market... the Gigabyte AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB. I'm not sure why it's significantly cheaper than everything else in the market but I'm sure its something regrettable
Let me know how a single 290 does on that LG. Considering a similar setup myself. Gigabyte basically used their 780 heatsink on the 290, and it's not an optimal setup. Nothing deal breaking though. It runs a few degrees hotter than the market leading coolers for the card.
Two more questions and then I'll probably order guys!
How does the Samsung 840 EVO Basic 250GB SSD compare to the Crucial MX100? It's only 20 euro more at the store I'm ordering from which makes it more cost-effective than the 128GB MX100. It's also in stock!
I also still need an alternative to the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. I might still OC, but it wouldn't be much probably. So anything that's at least quieter than the stock cooler would be great really. As long as it's also easy to install and not too pricey! I guess it would also be nice if it's not too big, but perhaps they all are. Honestly I never expected them to be this big. I'd prefer to pick from these I suppose http://azerty.nl/8-976/processor-.html as I'm ordering everything here and they seem to be cheapest. I could order from another place if I had to though.
Anyway, thanks again guys!
How does the Samsung 840 EVO Basic 250GB SSD compare to the Crucial MX100? It's only 20 euro more at the store I'm ordering from which makes it more cost-effective than the 128GB MX100. It's also in stock!
I also still need an alternative to the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. I might still OC, but it wouldn't be much probably. So anything that's at least quieter than the stock cooler would be great really. As long as it's also easy to install and not too pricey! I guess it would also be nice if it's not too big, but perhaps they all are. Honestly I never expected them to be this big. I'd prefer to pick from these I suppose http://azerty.nl/8-976/processor-.html as I'm ordering everything here and they seem to be cheapest. I could order from another place if I had to though.
Anyway, thanks again guys!
You seem to have a full ATX-size motherboard in an ITX-mATX case (depending on which you go for). You're gonna need to swap it for something like this Gigabyte Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX, or a Mini-ITX equivalent.
To expand on this, last night when I put my computer to sleep I heard a spring-like "boing" or "ping" noise when it turned off. Thought it was weird. Then today I'm hearing the coil whine, and I turned off my PC again and again the same noise. Does anyone have a clue?
1) The Samsung might be faster in a lot of cases, but not any difference that you'd notice. I think the MX100 is such an awesome value that you can't go wrong. EDIT - Defintely get at least 250gb since the smaller models are slower.
2) Why do you need an alternative? If you enable the PVM functionality, it will run really quiet until you try OC-ing and crank the voltage. Did I miss some past comment you made?
Yea, sucks. My Corsair does that since i bought it. I got used to it : /
Try increasing the voltage on your GPU ever so slightly higher. Also put in a frame rate limiter to like 150.
Store he is buying from is out of stock on that cooler.
Use the stock cooler until one comes in.
Alright. I sent a mail to the store if they happen to get the Crucial earlier than 10 days. If not, I'll go for the Samsung.
Well I'm currently looking for alternatives because I'm unsure about the 212 evo. The install looks like quite the hassle and I'm completely inexperienced when it comes to building PCs, let alone installing CPU coolers. Also it's currently out of stock at the store I wanted to order it from.
Someone recommended me the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo as a cheaper, easier to install alternative to the 212 Evo if I don't want to OC. Website comments have people complaining about it being hard to install though. So not sure what to believe.
I've also been looking at the DeepCool GammaXX 300, which seems to be an even cheaper alternative. It also looks kinda neat I suppose.
Then again, if I'm spending 1000+ anyway, I'm not gonna worry too much about spending 10 or 20 more or less. I've also been looking at the Scythe Shuriken Rev.B, Noctua NH-L9i, DeepCool Neptwin and finally the Cooler Master Hyper 412s as alternatives. Though that last one is also out of stock. No idea how they compare otherwise though. My priorities are that it's silent and installs easily.
I suppose that is an option, but not one I'm comfortable with. That 212 Evo would have me disassemble my whole case, mobo and everything in order to install it.
I suppose that is an option, but not one I'm comfortable with. That 212 Evo would have me disassemble my whole case, mobo and everything in order to install it.
It just gives you another reason to open up your computer and be like "wow, look at all this sweet shit I bought". Don't be afraid of opening it up again. I've heard the 212 Evo can be a bitch to assemble with only one pair of hands, but it's still pretty straightforward AFAIK.
This exact same thing happened to me with Newegg few years ago (I'm in PA). Its the worst feeling.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Been clicking on an S3 build thread on OC.NET for a while now, and just last night realized his photos aren't in the gallery, but rather the end of the thread. This is absolutely gorgeous... possibly my favorite build ever.
I did something weird:
Thanks for the confirmation. I just ordered it. I got the cheapest one on the market... the Gigabyte AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB. I'm not sure why it's significantly cheaper than everything else in the market but I'm sure its something regrettable
I'm assuming you got it for about $340? Yeah I was looking at that too. The pre-overclocked version is $400 which I am considering. Not sure how much performance is lost without the overclock and not sure if it can easily be made up by self-overclocking. I wish I would have been looking for my GPU last week when the Sapphire http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HJOXUKC/?tag=neogaf0e-20 dropped to $370. I'm tempted to wait a couple weeks to see if it happens again but I should have all my other parts by Wednesday :/
It sucks because I bought this PSU precisely because it was allegedly noiseless on idle, after suffering a noisy XFX. This is nothing like that, but it just sucks that I apparently can't get anything right with this build.
I dunno how comfortable I feel with doing something like that...
Azzurri
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Which case s this?
Azzurri
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Should fit anything. And if it doesn't you can mod it to your hearts content.
Yep, with a few inches to spare.
Azzurri
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Nice!
adamantypants
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Put your mobo, psu, cpu, cooler, and ram together and try to boot it. By the time you get your case at least you'll know that it all works. And if you're on an air cooler, that's one less thing you have to do before you put it in the case.
Not really a fan of the white case, but the organization is neat and tidy as fuck. I approve, and only wish my own build was half as tidy as that.
Azzurri
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If you ever decide you want to dive into proper watercooling, you can later add a pedestal for it which will allow you to fit plenty of rads for a nice quiet build too.
My favorite S3 build, Snef's Purple Chimera:
I was just gonna say, you can buy the pedestal if you want the extra space for water cooling.
I like the dimensions w/o since it's only 14'' tall
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
If you ever decide you want to dive into proper watercooling, you can later add a pedestal for it which will allow you to fit plenty of rads for a nice quiet build too.
My favorite S3 build, Snef's Purple Chimera:
You probably have a better view of everything that's out there... what's your favorite build, period?
Derrick's Classy Cruncher perhaps.
It's a bit too in-your-face for me, but James' Parvum Titanfall is one of the most masterfully executed builds I've seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUmlFljBvs
It's a bit too in-your-face for me, but James' Parvum Titanfall is one of the most masterfully executed builds I've seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUmlFljBvs
Leatherface
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PC GAF, I need some advice. I want to start upgrading my computer as it's starting to get on the old(ish) side, I'm on a limited budget so I have to do this a little at a time. How do you think I should approach this? Graphics first or motherboard/processor? Before you answer let me give you a lay of the land:
Current Build:
OS: WIN7 Ultimate (64bit)
Processor: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield Quad-Core 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W
Motherboard: ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
Graphics: EVGA Nvidia 560ti x2 in SLI
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (CC650DW-1) Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Mid
OS HD: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series SSD 256GB
Storage HD's: (x4) Western Digital Scorpio Black 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
Power Supply: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V
So I feel like I'm starting to get bottlenecked by my CPU/Motherboard at this point. But I also want to upgrade my video card situation. I think running 2 560ti's in SLI is a big ol' waste of power for the performance I'm getting (which is good but nothing a single card couldn't handle easily at this point). It may be worthwhile to sell my two cards and invest in a more modern single card solution.
So my question to all of you is this. What should I take care of first motherboard/processor or graphics? What do you think would have the most short term inpact? Also, what is the new hotness for the current price/performance threshold (motherboard/CPU/graphics)
Current Build:
OS: WIN7 Ultimate (64bit)
Processor: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield Quad-Core 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W
Motherboard: ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
Graphics: EVGA Nvidia 560ti x2 in SLI
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (CC650DW-1) Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Mid
OS HD: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series SSD 256GB
Storage HD's: (x4) Western Digital Scorpio Black 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
Power Supply: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V
So I feel like I'm starting to get bottlenecked by my CPU/Motherboard at this point. But I also want to upgrade my video card situation. I think running 2 560ti's in SLI is a big ol' waste of power for the performance I'm getting (which is good but nothing a single card couldn't handle easily at this point). It may be worthwhile to sell my two cards and invest in a more modern single card solution.
So my question to all of you is this. What should I take care of first motherboard/processor or graphics? What do you think would have the most short term inpact? Also, what is the new hotness for the current price/performance threshold (motherboard/CPU/graphics)
Leatherface
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Videocard. The 760 is a great value, and the 780 is a great value. The 290 is the absolute best in terms of price
I'd recommend going with a 3GB+ card though, so the 780 or 290 is where I'd go with a more high-end build like yours.
Exactly my line of thought. Thanks.
Leatherface
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Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't researched since I bought my last MOBO/CPU (Which was 2010 haha) so I've been out of the loop. It's always nice to have a little direction from a fellow enthusiast. Now I have something to start looking into. Much appreciated.
Anyone looking for a PSU? The Seasonic G650 is dropping to $60 soon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8&cm_re=seasonic_650RM-_-17-151-118-_-Product
Should happen in just under two hours.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8&cm_re=seasonic_650RM-_-17-151-118-_-Product
Should happen in just under two hours.
ChronotriggerJM
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Just bought that for 85....
TwistedFate
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Going through the same thing right now. My CPU is shipping from canada for what ever reason, when all my other stuff arrived on friday. Its supposed to arrive tomorrow though so I won't have to wait much longer..
Nostremitus
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I just ordered the EVGA 500B on Saturday.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Same here. Oh well
So I bought this computer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314535
I think the 840m graphics card isn't working and it's using integrated thus even on Borderlands 1 I can't get past 15fps at max graphics. Additionally, when I try to upgrade my Nvidia Drivers in case that turns it on, I get this message:
The graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware.
Is my computer weaker than I thought it was, or am I a dingdong?
Any help would be appreciated.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314535
I think the 840m graphics card isn't working and it's using integrated thus even on Borderlands 1 I can't get past 15fps at max graphics. Additionally, when I try to upgrade my Nvidia Drivers in case that turns it on, I get this message:
The graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware.
Is my computer weaker than I thought it was, or am I a dingdong?
Any help would be appreciated.
Is 60°C for a 4670k at 99% load on prime95 normal?
Cooler is a hyper 212 EVOm room temperature is about 20°C, case is a beautiful Corsair 350d (mATX) with stock fans.
Also another question: when I play Skyrim I open realtemp side by side and it shows drops in the CPU frequency, sometimes it downclocks to 2000-2500, not all the time but it's something I've noticed.
Thanks
Cooler is a hyper 212 EVOm room temperature is about 20°C, case is a beautiful Corsair 350d (mATX) with stock fans.
Also another question: when I play Skyrim I open realtemp side by side and it shows drops in the CPU frequency, sometimes it downclocks to 2000-2500, not all the time but it's something I've noticed.
Thanks
Nostremitus
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