Headsteyker
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I have a z170-A motherboard never update any kind of software, since I'm swapping in a new case I'd like to over clock the CPU, should I upgrade bios and all the other things found on the Asus page? And how?
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So, you're going from HDMI on your graphics card to DP on the monitor? What ports does your graphics card have (and which card is it?). It seems very strange that your graphics board would not include a DisplayPort output.
If you really do need to go from HDMI to DP, you'll need an active converter.
Phanatic8390
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So I just built this with the expectation of getting a Vive but I think I've decided to hold off on it for now as I'm pretty concerned about long term effects of VR especially since I've had problems with my vision in the past.
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($192.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($161.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Having said that, if I take the money I budgeted for Vive, does anyone have any suggestions for a good G-Sync monitor? I'm guessing I should be good for 1440p @ 60fps with that? rig
I was looking at the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q. Would that be a good choice?
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($192.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($161.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Having said that, if I take the money I budgeted for Vive, does anyone have any suggestions for a good G-Sync monitor? I'm guessing I should be good for 1440p @ 60fps with that? rig
I was looking at the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q. Would that be a good choice?
Since that board launched with Skylake, it might have an older BIOS version. If you want to overclock, it is best to have the latest revision. Make sure you check your BIOS version first, as it might be all ready.
I'm sure Asus has a detailed guide on their site. But the process is basically this: download the new BIOS from Asus, copy it to an empty flash drive, then find the quick reflash option in the BIOS. It's simple to do, but you should back up first.
This is something you should only have to do once.
That would be a good choice, yes.
With a 1080, you can really choose any refresh rate/resolution combination you like. It can do 1440p/144 in competitive games, 1440p/60 at maximum settings, 4K/60 on near-max settings-if you can buy it under $800, the 1080 can drive it.
Really, even the 1070 is limited by 1440p/60Hz monitors.
Megalosaro
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I only have one hdmi port on my gtx 970, which I plan to use for my oculus. I'm going to hook up my monitor to the display port
So you're going from DisplayPort to HDMI? Pretty much any $10 DP to HDMI adapter should work.
Maybe others can chime in their opinions but I would have a nice PSU for those parts.
My drives are on hot-swap-like brackets so I held them down. No change. I then unplugged them. No change either.
Aaaand, I just did something I should've done from the beginning: I turned my computer around and put my ear to the PSU vent. It's something definitely coming from in there. I'm thinking that the bearing of the PSU fan came loose since the fan is *technically* upside down in my case.
That's what I was thinking too, but I just wanted to see someone else say it. Thanks!
opticalmace
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I believe the PB278Q is the old TN panel. You want the new 279, or the Acer XB270HU or XB271HU.
scotcheggz
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Hey guys, today I had an unexpected gpu failure so I'm looking to buy a new gpu asap. On one hand it's kind of good, as I've been running this 560ti for years now and upgrades are fun and with the release of the 1060 it's sort of nice timing.. However it is unexpected and so I can't really afford to drop large cash this month. I was looking at the palit dual gtx 1060 as its one of the cheapest 1060 about, but I've never had experience with palit before. Anyone know of this brand is any good? I've usually gone with Asus or msi gpus in the past. I really don't want to stretch myself to another £50 for the msi, if I'd have prepared for this I would but right now I just need to get my pc running so I'm looking at the cheapest option really. Any thoughts on Palit?
GravyCheeks
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I bought a LGA 1150 mobo a few months back that I haven't put in yet. Am I going to kick myself for not going with an 1151? I've been stressing out about it, and figured I'd ask here. Here are the motherboard I got, and the processor I was planning on picking up:
ASUS Z97-PRO GAMER LGA 1150
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz
Help appreciated!
ASUS Z97-PRO GAMER LGA 1150
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz
Help appreciated!
Hey guys. I was putting together a build but I just thought of something. I plan on getting a 4K TV. Not sure exactly when, but within the year for sure. Does displaying lower resolutions on 4K displays make it look weird or worse?
Here's the build so far. SLI version of that card, though. Was going to do that down the line after performance was suffering. But I'm wondering if I should build something stronger for a 4K TV, or if a 1070 based machine would be fine.
Also I have a lot of the missing stuff already.
Here's the build so far. SLI version of that card, though. Was going to do that down the line after performance was suffering. But I'm wondering if I should build something stronger for a 4K TV, or if a 1070 based machine would be fine.
Also I have a lot of the missing stuff already.
Thanks I will look into doing so.
If I do I'd like to get a psu with two 8pin connectors so I don't have to use the adapters.
Bearing wouldn't come loose, but the ear won't lie. Probably bearing is just failing.
I5 2500k unlocked
8 gigs of ram
1 terabyte hdd
Gtx 730
450 watt power supply
Windows 7
Wowfunhappy
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1080p should look fine, because it's exactly half of 4K, so you maintain a 1:1 pixel display.
Jezbollah
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The main detail we should probably know is if this is going to be a HTPC or if you are expecting to do anything more on it?
I have been looking into specing a 4K capable HTPC - and what you have posted should handle that fine.
With 4k (and indeed 1080p on standard TVs) you can, in Windows 10, magnify the icons and UI in general to make it easier to navigate from a distance.
Avenger54321
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Hey guys, I'm going to be building a PC for mainly gaming and School (software engineering). Here's the build I was planning to do:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rMXvV
Now I will be upgrading it in the future, so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Also what resolution and framerate will this be running games at? I'm planning on playing Sonic Generations, Portal 2, Battlefield 3 and 4, etc on it.
My current budget is $850.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rMXvV
Now I will be upgrading it in the future, so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Also what resolution and framerate will this be running games at? I'm planning on playing Sonic Generations, Portal 2, Battlefield 3 and 4, etc on it.
My current budget is $850.
Cool. What about 1440p? Did a quick search and some places are saying it might be better to play at 1080p settings on a 4K TV as opposed to 1440p.
I'm just going to game on it. Maybe get a good sound system for the living room but that's all.
KenPokesBarbie
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Anyone got suggestions for a 1440p or 4k monitor under $900(Canadian)? I just got a 1070 and would like to upgrade from the 1080ptv I've been using.
Asus P5ND and a Seasonic 80 Gold
CaptainSmirnov
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1440p has more pixels but can look more blurry on 4k if it makes sense. Overall down to personal preference. What are some of the games you'll be playing and do you want high/ near max settings? I had to get a second 1080 to handle 4k@60fps.
Jezbollah
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Ok cool. As long as you are content with the 1070 4K benchmarks and if that factors into your gaming. Enjoy
I would go with something like this. New socket. Z170 motherboard that gives you the option to upgrade the CPU to a 6600k/6700k in the future. Can add another stick of ram to get 16gb if you want. Add an SSD later or now (I would suggest getting one now). Good power supply that will last. Get a RX480 or GTX 1060 for the video card.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($124.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $646.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 16:44 EDT-0400
1440p looks better than 1080p on a 3840x2160 display the same way 720p looks better than 480p on a 1920x1080 display.
ThanksVision
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Since you are in school, you might want to check with your university/college to see if you can get an enterprise edition of win10 in order to save some money. Definitely spring for an SSD as your boot drive. It is very much worth it. I would also say not to sleep on quality RAM, since you're in software eng that extra RAM will come in handy when you're emulating virtualmachines and/or mobile devices for development. I like being able to dedicate a ton of ram to android studio emus and other IDEs.
Well I took the plunge and upgraded my display to QHD.
I had to buy something to justify upgrading my very old rig.
Now, I'll either wait for the 1070 to become cheaper or go Vega whenever AMD decides to shake the GPU market. The wait promises to be painful as my 7950 boost will have to do it's best meanwhile. But for the time being it is primarily to play WoW. Should be fine.
Oh yeah forgot to say, I went 60hz without any of that crazy proprietary free sync gsync. I'm voting with my dollars here. I hate when companies tried to force us into buying their brand. Monitors should stay open.
I had to buy something to justify upgrading my very old rig.
Now, I'll either wait for the 1070 to become cheaper or go Vega whenever AMD decides to shake the GPU market. The wait promises to be painful as my 7950 boost will have to do it's best meanwhile. But for the time being it is primarily to play WoW. Should be fine.
Oh yeah forgot to say, I went 60hz without any of that crazy proprietary free sync gsync. I'm voting with my dollars here. I hate when companies tried to force us into buying their brand. Monitors should stay open.
iamruthless
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I have a bit of a weird issue. I just picked up an Asus 1070 turbo and went to hook it up but it will not fit all the way into my pci-e slot. My motherboard is a micro atx and there is a capacitor that is blocking the bottom of the card by the i/o port. The 1070 has a huge plastic lip on that end that I think is the culprit. Am I out of luck?
Wowfunhappy
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I'm not sure I'd agree with that to be honest. It will look a bit more blurry because the pixels can't scale evenly. (480p just looks so bad in general that the reduced blurriness isn't a huge factor)
What is certain is that 1440p will look worse on a 4K display than it would on an actual 1440p display.
RPGs mainly. But also platformers, fighters, action games. But all the Witchers, Mass Effects, Fallouts and such. I'm in there. Want to check out that Star Citizen game too.
Lockjaw333
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Just picked up a Logitech G502 proteus spectrum (ridiculous name). I have been using a G400 for years.
This mouse is really neat and has nice features and good tactile feel, but...I'm just not liking it that much. Its sort of narrow and doesnt feel nearly as comfy as the G400. I also find most of the side buttons, like page back and forward, the DPI buttons, and the sniper button to be really awkward.
It just isnt feel like a natural extension like the G400 did. Maybe I need time to get used to it?
I was debating between the G502 and the Corsair M65 Pro, maybe I should return it and try the M65?
This mouse is really neat and has nice features and good tactile feel, but...I'm just not liking it that much. Its sort of narrow and doesnt feel nearly as comfy as the G400. I also find most of the side buttons, like page back and forward, the DPI buttons, and the sniper button to be really awkward.
It just isnt feel like a natural extension like the G400 did. Maybe I need time to get used to it?
I was debating between the G502 and the Corsair M65 Pro, maybe I should return it and try the M65?
Avenger54321
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I decided to splurge a little more on my new PC and get myself another SSD. I'm going to go with a Samsung EVO 850 500 gb. I already have a Evo 840 256 gb.
Here is my possibly stupid question. Is one or the other better for my windows install? Does it matter? The second drive will be used for storage and maybe scratch disks for video editing.
My primary use for the computer will be editing, and some gaming.
Thanks.
Here is my possibly stupid question. Is one or the other better for my windows install? Does it matter? The second drive will be used for storage and maybe scratch disks for video editing.
My primary use for the computer will be editing, and some gaming.
Thanks.
BRocknRolla
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That's the really crappy thing I'm finding about the current set of graphics cards. We've got a good selected of quality 4k TVs out there, but there's really very little that can take advantage of it. I was looking at getting a 1080 so I could play at 4k on my TV, but the thought that I'd drop that kind of money and still not be able to play well at 4k is terribly disappointing.
My graphics card is going bad, but I'm trying to sit on my hands until we get some cards that are properly capable of 4k.
Wowfunhappy
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The 1080 is perfectly capable of 4K if you turn down the graphics settings though.
To be honest, I kind of hope we never get to a point where games can be max'd out AND run at 4K@60fps, because that would mean the highest graphic options aren't as good as they could be for people who prefer 1080p, or 4K@30fps.
opticalmace
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If I were you I'd get a new video card and an SSD. Maybe a 1060?
BRocknRolla
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Why would you hope that? And why would someone prefer to play at 1080p, 4k30fps if they had the option to game at a higher setting? This doesn't make any sense. There's always going to be some higher setting that new graphics cards can achieve. Why would we put a hard stop at 1080p60fps/4k30fps?
I'm considering it, thanks
Wowfunhappy
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Because, again, that means the current GPU's aren't being fully utilized at 1080p.
I'm not arguing for less capable graphics cards—I'm arguing for games that are capable of taking advantage of the cards we have no matter what your resolution or target framerate. You want a higher resolution? Fine, just turn down lighting and model quality. You okay with a lower resolution? Great, you'll get better lighting as a result!
In other words, I don't think anybody should be disappointed because the 1080 can't hit 4K@60fps at the highest settings in the latest games. Instead, we should be pleased with how well modern games can scale in different directions, depending on the user's priorities.
CaptainSmirnov
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If you want decent performance at 4k you're going to need a gtx 1080 at minimum. Honestly the new Titan x would be the sweetspot but it's pricey. Also waiting for possible 1080ti would be advisable but its not confirmed to be coming just yet.
Playing in 1080p or 1440p is still a good option. Since you sit further away than a monitor the blurriness of not being native isn't so bad. You'll be futureproof and could go to 3840x2160 at any point.
Make sure you get a good TV. Resolution isn't everything and I learned the hard way.
CaptainSmirnov
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I get what you're saying but when you spend so much money on the best card at the time you'd hope to get the best graphics now not 5 years after you've already played the game.
Yautja_Warrior
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Had a good chance to do some stress testing today, to make sure my i7 6700k is stable at 4.6GHz (1.363v) Seems all is good, with no crashes and it gave me a good chance to give the Corsair h115i watercooler a workout too, as I wasn't sure about the cooler.
Got 4 intake case fans and 3 exhaust fans, 2 of the exhaust fans are on the h115i, pulling air through the radiator (easier to clean the radiator if needed) and out the top of the case, so I didn't expect the best results ever.
Seems it was money well spent though, even with the cooler as an exhaust, its running idle at 21-22 degrees and under load it was 61-62 degrees, with a custom fan curve so it stays pretty quite. So overall I'm very happy with it, especially the temps as its still pretty warm indoors at the moment.
Got 4 intake case fans and 3 exhaust fans, 2 of the exhaust fans are on the h115i, pulling air through the radiator (easier to clean the radiator if needed) and out the top of the case, so I didn't expect the best results ever.
Seems it was money well spent though, even with the cooler as an exhaust, its running idle at 21-22 degrees and under load it was 61-62 degrees, with a custom fan curve so it stays pretty quite. So overall I'm very happy with it, especially the temps as its still pretty warm indoors at the moment.
Wowfunhappy
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"Best graphics" is relative to what is possible at any given time.
Many games may look better when set to high @ 4K than when set to ultra @ 1080p. That's a choice each individual customer will have to make. I don't think you can argue that PC gaming is all about options and choice while also saying that games should be designed with one "optimal" setting in mind.
Heck, who decided that 60 fps was the ideal framerate? A lot of people prefer 120. Should all games be targeting 120 fps at the highest graphics settings? That would really suck for everyone with 60hz monitors.
Celcius
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I bought a G502 last year but returned it because I couldn't stand the scroll wheel. I ended up getting the G400s and couldn't be happier.
opticalmace
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Voltage seems kinda high. I'd expect closer to 1.30 or 1.32V for 4.6ghz. Depends on your motherboard and LLC setting though.
BRocknRolla
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What does this have to do with "targeting" those settings though? The dev doesn't have to "target" 4k/60fps. They simply have to make sure their game can support those settings. The hardware then supports that ability. Same with 120fps. I'd venture to guess nearly no game has ever targeted 120fps as the optimal refresh rate, but that doesn't mean devs shouldn't be willing to support it. There are plenty of people who probably weren't thrilled to buy HDTVs, but we shouldn't let that stand in the way of better experiences. 4k60fps doesn't sounds like an outlandish request for gaming, especially when you consider screen technology is only going to continue to get better.
Yautja_Warrior
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Msi Xpower Gaming Titanium motherboard.
Yeah its not the lowest voltage but seen people running higher voltage too. I've got the voltage in adaptive mode too, so cpu and voltage down clock when not under load, so its not stressing the cpu all the time.
Might try getting it down a bit more when I get time but its stable and well within safe voltage, with good temps, so I'm not worried about it too much.
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