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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Having the case open will not have any impact.
Are all games crashing?
Specifically how do they crash? Crash to desktop? Any errors?
And did it ever work properly?
Most boards don't have VRM sensors.
A 13hr test is going to need VRM cooling, is this Prime95? Exactly how are you testing?
ElfArmy177
Member
I just did a cpu test and after 5 min it hit 86-87 degrees Celsius. Obviously I stopped it before it got much higher... Is 87 bad?
ElfArmy177
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No error message. Just suddenly restarts
Yes ive tried 2 games crash everytime, no errors just powers completely off,
No I built it last night and crashes e verytime
Ah, I didn't know that. Yeah, Prime95 v26.6 build 3 with smal FFTs.
Yeah that's going to cause issues.
Use the newest prime95. Select blend, click custom, enter 12000mb of ram to test and set the minimum fft to 160k. That should keep it from tortuting the vrm too much.
27.9 or latest are the only versions to use.
What's the load line calibration set to? And which Mobo?
V1LÆM
Gold Member
yep. 80-85 is the highest you should go. personally if it's above 80 then it's too hot.
A CPU test with what??
I'm using this version because I've read newer versions cause high temperatures (I think I even read that in this thread). I'm willing to give it a shot, though. I'm on a Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI. LLC set to High (options are auto, standard, high).
RamaTheVoice
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Might be a PSU issue.
I believe the newer versions aren't great with older cpu like haswell. I use 26.6 with my i5 4670k and get average temps around 68 with my over clock, but when I use 28.something its in the high 80s/90s
ElfArmy177
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Uh... I forgot what I just used haha something to stress the cpu
Try back off the LLC and use a higher offset. That will prevent that peak Vcore being so much higher than average. And will make the system more stable in transient loads.
As I said, prime95 v27.9 or Latest is fine. 27.9 if your cooling isn't up to the task. Latest if the cooling can take it, but increase the minimum FFT length from 8k to 160k to prevent really high temps.
For Haswell, 27.9 is the version to use. Skylake is not effected by that old problem.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thats exactly what happened hehe. She said that she didnt see any HDMI outputs and i asked her to send me photos of the back of the PC, and i see that nothin was connected to the GTX 1070. Thanks for the help!
EDIT: I also didnt know that motherboards today came with HDMI out. It even has a DVI out on her motherboard. Shows that i havnt followed PC developement for quite some time.
Power supply failure or temperatures are in the dangerous area causing a shutdown.
Check temps with HWmonitor or MSI Afterburner as it has an on screen display for when you are in game.
Thanks vector ill reinstall them,were nearly there!
Thanks ill post my results
Hey, PCGaf. I'm saving up for a graphics card in the next two or three months and want something mid budget that I can get maybe a couple of years of mileage out of before the next upgrade. Currently using a GTX 960, any recommendations for where to upgrade from there? I also have an i5-4460, so I don't know if my cpu will become a bottleneck or not.
GTX 1070. Cpu shouldn't be a bottleneck, or at the very least you will still see an amazing improvement, and the price per frame you'll get is ridiculous. Might be at the top end of "mid budget", but it'll last you longer especially if you have a 1080p monitor.
HarryDemeanor
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It's beautiful.
It's finally finished.
Kudo
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Just noticed that my Z170-A raises CPU voltage pretty high when set on Auto, 1.380 and I'm running it at stock speeds.
Should I go to bios and set the voltage to Adaptive and turn offset to 1.250 or something? I was also thinking of rising the Core Ratio to 42 to get that 4.2GHz for all cores, think 1.250 is enough for that?
Should I go to bios and set the voltage to Adaptive and turn offset to 1.250 or something? I was also thinking of rising the Core Ratio to 42 to get that 4.2GHz for all cores, think 1.250 is enough for that?
V1LÆM
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yeah set it manually. the bios will use a load of voltage. 1.25v should be fine ... maybe a little lower. my i7-6700K can go to 4.4Ghz with 1.30V and i wasn't so lucky in the "silicon lottery". need 1.35V for 4.5Ghz.
ElfArmy177
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Ok put on a 212+ for a heatsink and fan instead of a stock one that came with my 4770k. Now my temps are 55 under stress test using prime95 instead of 87... Maybe this will help stop the PC restarts?
Okay I managed to complete 3d benchmark timespy without shutting down for the firsttime
Heres the results ,on cpu test I averaged 25 fps,on graphics test I only managed 8 fps average and my overall score was just over 2000(I have an i5 6600k and amd rx480 8gb) , I guess that shows my gpu is not performing as should?
Im going to run msi afterburner now to see if its a temperature problem
Heres the results ,on cpu test I averaged 25 fps,on graphics test I only managed 8 fps average and my overall score was just over 2000(I have an i5 6600k and amd rx480 8gb) , I guess that shows my gpu is not performing as should?
Im going to run msi afterburner now to see if its a temperature problem
Kudo
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Should I use adaptive or the manual mode? I heard manual mode feeds the voltage constantly so it doesn't go down even if the computer is idling.
Not really, if restarting is most likely due to an insufficient power supply. Can you get another P/S to swap test? What else are in your PC? Remove anything that's nonessential. Also try downclocking/downvolting 4470k even it's on standard clock rate.
ElfArmy177
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What would you recommend for a 4770k and a 1080? Ive also got one HDD and 2 ssd. Currently it's a corsair 750
Technically, 750W is enough, but the real world performance is hard to predict. Are you in a country with favorable return policy? If so, just go buy a big one and try it out?
It's finally finished.
Wow that looks nice. Great job!
Quality of PSU matters just as much as Quantity of watts. Look on the front page for a list of good quality ones, 750 will power that no problem if its quality.
lostsupper
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The mechanical HDD is a weird choice. What CPU?
That should be more than enought. If its not the cheapest chinese random PSU you can find.
ElfArmy177
Member
So if the 750 is enough and it's not a bad power supply (corsair) is it possible it's going bad?
Haha, don't feel bad: everybody has at least one story of stupidity involving technology. Once I unknowingly put a second disc in a DVD player and after removing the casing to retrieve the discs, I couldn't get it to turn back on. I eventually just assumed I broke something, but months later, when I was rearranging my room, I discovered that I'd forgotten to switch the player's rear power button back to the "On" position. D'oh.
OMG. I was thinking "man I helped that guy put it together too!" Glad it all worked out. Sometimes it's the simplest things...
One time I didn't connect the CPU power connector... mild panic set in, read the manual, felt like an idiot. haha!
Makes no difference.
Cert.in.Death
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Not as familiar with Euro outlets, but Stateside we've seen TN 1440p units as low as $450 (Dell S2716DG) while the lowest I've seen IPS 1440p drop is $550 (Acer XB271HU). I imagine your best bet is to hunt down a 24" 1080 panel if you want to hit your target.
Anyone else experience their PC not fully shutting down when they shut down from Windows? Sometimes my screen will go blank/dark as if the OS has shut down, but the fans and lights on my case will remain running. Have to manually turn it off via the power button at that point. it doesn't always happen, and Windows never reports any errors or anything, so I've no clue what's going on. Mobo is an MSI Z170A PC Mate with an i5 6600K (running at stock speed for the time being). BIOS has been updated to the latest version.
Pharaoh 117
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So, I'm thinking about selling my i7 2600K build to my brother. This PC is approaching the 5 years mark and still works wonderfully. One of my best purchases ever.
But is this a good time to build a new one? Is there anything new on the horizon worth waiting for?
But is this a good time to build a new one? Is there anything new on the horizon worth waiting for?
It's a 6700K. Not really, Since I have no interest in spending 900 dollars on 2TB SSD drive. It's a hybrid drive for game storage. My m.2 drive is to small for game storage & mods.
Cross posting this from the BST thread... Hopefully that's okay. Will delete if not.
I'm looking to possibly sell my recently built gaming PC. With work getting busier and busier every day, I don't ever have time to use it. I'd rather have the cash for redoing my house.
Specs are:
i7 6700k ($320)
Asus Z170-AR ATX Motherboard ($160)
32gb (4 x 8gb) Corsair Vengence 2666 Mhz ($165)
Samsung 850, 500gb SSD ($150)
Seagate 1TB Hybrid SHDD ($70)
Nvidia GTX 980Ti (reference with Hybrid Cooler installed... $400)
H-212 CPU Cooler ($35)
NZXT Grid Fan Controller ($25)
EVGA Supernova G2 750 Watt Power supply ($100)
Phanteks Evolv ATX Case - Silver ($180)
Windows 10 - OEM Key ($120)
Using PC Part Picker, new it would cost you about $1800 with taxes.
I'd be willing to let it go for $1500. Only local pickup for now in the North Jersey Area (07407 to be exact) PM me for photos/details.
I also have an Auria 27" 2560x1440 monitor I would include for $150 with the PC.
Would be interested in a trade for a surface pro 4 or ipad pro 12.9" plus cash on your end.
I'm looking to possibly sell my recently built gaming PC. With work getting busier and busier every day, I don't ever have time to use it. I'd rather have the cash for redoing my house.
Specs are:
i7 6700k ($320)
Asus Z170-AR ATX Motherboard ($160)
32gb (4 x 8gb) Corsair Vengence 2666 Mhz ($165)
Samsung 850, 500gb SSD ($150)
Seagate 1TB Hybrid SHDD ($70)
Nvidia GTX 980Ti (reference with Hybrid Cooler installed... $400)
H-212 CPU Cooler ($35)
NZXT Grid Fan Controller ($25)
EVGA Supernova G2 750 Watt Power supply ($100)
Phanteks Evolv ATX Case - Silver ($180)
Windows 10 - OEM Key ($120)
Using PC Part Picker, new it would cost you about $1800 with taxes.
I'd be willing to let it go for $1500. Only local pickup for now in the North Jersey Area (07407 to be exact) PM me for photos/details.
I also have an Auria 27" 2560x1440 monitor I would include for $150 with the PC.
Would be interested in a trade for a surface pro 4 or ipad pro 12.9" plus cash on your end.
Hello
I'm looking to upgrade from my Intel i7-930, as it is starting to slow down. It is really noticeably in games like City Skylines, Europa Universalis IV, Civilization V, XCOM 2, Dragon Age and Witcher 3. Witcher 3 ran between 20-40 fps on High settings with occasional juttering. Even in older games like XCOM: Enemy Within fire and flame effects causes lag. Strategy, Sims and RPGs are the genres I play most on PC. I sometimes play "twitch" based games like FPS, MOBA and RTS but they are not the focus. I built this PC for Civ V and now that Civ VI is coming out now is a good time for me to build another. Current system:
i7 930 @ 2.8 GHz
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 760 (at first I had a 460, upgraded for Witcher 3)
16 GB Ram
Case is an Antec... something but it's midsize Tower
Have two TN 1080p Monitors (24" and 21"), looking to upgrade
Windows 7 Home Premium
My budget for this build is $2000 - $2500 + ~$1000 for a new monitor (max, like $1100 might be ok but $1500 is too much). I live in Western Canada. I would love to play ultra high for everything but I'm fine with just high if I'll get 60fps. I am planning on giving my family the current PC so I'll be bringing nothing over (besides some hard drives, maybe). Here is something I threw together as a base on pcpickers.com: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XsZqpb
Some questions:
I have a i7-6700k for my CPU, but the front page suggests i5 would be fine. This true even for CPU heavy games? The example I'm thinking of is a game of Civ V with 40 civs on a huge map? If so that could save me ~$200.
Thoughts on the Acer Predator XB271HK? It's a 4k 16:9 27" IPS G-sync 60Hz monitor. The 24" monitor I'm using at right now feels big enough to be honest. There is a 32" version but I can't afford the extra $400, although it would be amazing. I am very interested in Ultra wide 21:9 (like the Acer Predator X34) but versions with IPS run an extra $400. As much as I'd like 144Hz I can live without it, I guess. Also, I'm going with a NVIDIA 1080 this time, so what monitor I use will have an impact on the cards performance.
Can SSD be good for storage/"My Documents" folder? I'm worried about read amount limits. Also, would have a separate small SSD (like 100GB) for the C Drive be a good idea? I using a 500 GB for C Drive with a bunch of games installed; half of it is used. The idea is to keep a SSD half full otherwise it starts to slow down... is that a real issue?
I'd like to have it up and running by October, so that would mean latest I want to order the parts is mid September. I am thinking maybe the NVIDIA 1080 Ti and Intel 7700 will be out by then? Am I crazy? Would they even be worth it? If not I can order now/soon.
This is my first build completely on my own. But based on the case I have, it's both too small for cable management and really heavy (I move often). I have no good idea about what case or fans to get.
Finally, Windows 10: Home or Pro? Is Pro really worth it? I think at $50 probably, $100 no.
Thank you for your time.
I'm looking to upgrade from my Intel i7-930, as it is starting to slow down. It is really noticeably in games like City Skylines, Europa Universalis IV, Civilization V, XCOM 2, Dragon Age and Witcher 3. Witcher 3 ran between 20-40 fps on High settings with occasional juttering. Even in older games like XCOM: Enemy Within fire and flame effects causes lag. Strategy, Sims and RPGs are the genres I play most on PC. I sometimes play "twitch" based games like FPS, MOBA and RTS but they are not the focus. I built this PC for Civ V and now that Civ VI is coming out now is a good time for me to build another. Current system:
i7 930 @ 2.8 GHz
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 760 (at first I had a 460, upgraded for Witcher 3)
16 GB Ram
Case is an Antec... something but it's midsize Tower
Have two TN 1080p Monitors (24" and 21"), looking to upgrade
Windows 7 Home Premium
My budget for this build is $2000 - $2500 + ~$1000 for a new monitor (max, like $1100 might be ok but $1500 is too much). I live in Western Canada. I would love to play ultra high for everything but I'm fine with just high if I'll get 60fps. I am planning on giving my family the current PC so I'll be bringing nothing over (besides some hard drives, maybe). Here is something I threw together as a base on pcpickers.com: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XsZqpb
Some questions:
I have a i7-6700k for my CPU, but the front page suggests i5 would be fine. This true even for CPU heavy games? The example I'm thinking of is a game of Civ V with 40 civs on a huge map? If so that could save me ~$200.
Thoughts on the Acer Predator XB271HK? It's a 4k 16:9 27" IPS G-sync 60Hz monitor. The 24" monitor I'm using at right now feels big enough to be honest. There is a 32" version but I can't afford the extra $400, although it would be amazing. I am very interested in Ultra wide 21:9 (like the Acer Predator X34) but versions with IPS run an extra $400. As much as I'd like 144Hz I can live without it, I guess. Also, I'm going with a NVIDIA 1080 this time, so what monitor I use will have an impact on the cards performance.
Can SSD be good for storage/"My Documents" folder? I'm worried about read amount limits. Also, would have a separate small SSD (like 100GB) for the C Drive be a good idea? I using a 500 GB for C Drive with a bunch of games installed; half of it is used. The idea is to keep a SSD half full otherwise it starts to slow down... is that a real issue?
I'd like to have it up and running by October, so that would mean latest I want to order the parts is mid September. I am thinking maybe the NVIDIA 1080 Ti and Intel 7700 will be out by then? Am I crazy? Would they even be worth it? If not I can order now/soon.
This is my first build completely on my own. But based on the case I have, it's both too small for cable management and really heavy (I move often). I have no good idea about what case or fans to get.
Finally, Windows 10: Home or Pro? Is Pro really worth it? I think at $50 probably, $100 no.
Thank you for your time.
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