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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!

Bloodember

Member
Anyone have any advise on a low profile QUIET heatsink for my i7 6700?

I have a mITX case, Silverstone SG13 and have been running the stock heat sink with my i7 6700 since it's the non-k version so it's stock and not overclockable.

But, it's loud! Every time the fans spin up it's like a mini jet engine in there. Anything recommended as an alternatives that will fit in this small (and I mean small) case?

The Be Quiet Shadow Rock LP
 

Radec

Member
get 1060. 1050ti is not even close. Considering that the price difference is not too steep, 1050ti is not a good buy. 1060 performs just fine in your setup.

Either will work fine honestly, without too much constraint by the CPU (as GPU will remain the main limit). That said the games you're playing are not exactly massively demanding, so you can probably get by with the 1050 Ti - hell you'd get by with a regular 1050 if you wanna get the cost down. That said if you're wanting to pair with that R5 for good performance in much more hungry titles, the GTX 1060 would serve you better.

Thanks. But since today is vega day, I'll wait for it first.
 

egruntz

shelaughz
Here's something I put together for you. The case is just a stand in as that is of personal preference. You can get Windows from here for $20.
You still have $767.90 for 2 monitors and a keyboard and mouse, as I feel those are of personal preference as well.

Hey Bloodember,

Don't be upset with me. :3

But due to my ignorance/unfamiliarity with most of the terms in the OP, I spent today watching videos and trying to learn as much as I can.

G-Sync is amazing. I would like it. Lol.

It's my understanding that G-Sync is done 100% through the monitor? I don't need a special GPU for it? Or perhaps I do, but the GPU you already suggest will be able to handle it?

Thanks!

EDIT: God, sorry. Still learning. So it seems FreeSync is the same thing as GSync but doesn't require a monitor with a chip in it? And is cheaper? What's the downside?

EDIT 2: May as well ask in the same post. Leaning about supersampling now. I understand it's a way to get rid of jaggies. But I looked up a visual comparison, and it seems performance is much worse with the supersampling enabled?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqG95_edDQ

Or am I misunderstanding? Thanks guys.
 

23qwerty

Member
Anyone got a Fractal Design Define C?

Thinking about ordering one off NCIX for $80. http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=137307&usaffiliateid=1000031504

Never ordered from NCIX (US) before... any reason not to?

I've ordered from Canadian NCIX tons of times before, quite happy with them, but I mean it's mainly because they're only a few hours from where I live so shipping is only a day or two every time.

Can't imagine there being any reason not too assuming they ship from inside the US for you.
 

Bloodember

Member
Hey Bloodember,

Don't be upset with me. :3

But due to my ignorance/unfamiliarity with most of the terms in the OP, I spent today watching videos and trying to learn as much as I can.

G-Sync is amazing. I would like it. Lol.

It's my understanding that G-Sync is done 100% through the monitor? I don't need a special GPU for it? Or perhaps I do, but the GPU you already suggest will be able to handle it?

Thanks!

EDIT: God, sorry. Still learning. So it seems FreeSync is the same thing as GSync but doesn't require a monitor with a chip in it? And is cheaper? What's the downside?

EDIT 2: May as well ask in the same post. Leaning about supersampling now. I understand it's a way to get rid of jaggies. But I looked up a visual comparison, and it seems performance is much worse with the supersampling enabled?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqG95_edDQ

Or am I misunderstanding? Thanks guys.

Gsync is for Nvidia cards and freesync is for AMD cards. Gsync also raises the price of a monitor ten fold. Freesync does not as AMD doesn't charge to use it.

Super sampling is an anti-aliasing technigue. Some consider it a brute force alternate of msaa.
 
EDIT: Just realized that mouse is not blue tooth.

The G403?

Hmmm. Does it have to be? It comes with it's own USB dongle. Plug it into a USB slot and you have a wireless mouse.

EDIT 2: May as well ask in the same post. Leaning about supersampling now. I understand it's a way to get rid of jaggies. But I looked up a visual comparison, and it seems performance is much worse with the supersampling enabled?

Supersampling\downsampling is running a game at a higher resolution and having it scaled to your display resolution in real-time. Yeah, that will clear up jaggies. And yes, it comes at a heavy performance cost. But if you have power to spare, it's the best way to make your games look better.

Makes your games look like a bullshot in motion :p

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ISee

Member
So, if there's only a $100 difference between a 1070 and 1080, just get the 1080 yeah?

The GTX 1070 is a 7.3 tflops card at 1900 MHz
The GTX 1080 is a 9.7 tflops (+33%) card at 1900 MHz.
Even just +20% would be worth it for $100, imo. Of course only if you already have a CPU that can keep up (modern i5/r5 1600)
 

TGMIII

Member
Looking for some final advice and some questions, been a while since I put together a new system. The current plan is a system that pushes 120Hz main for competitive MP games but also where ever else possible on SP games:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (SATA or M2)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

I suppose the question right now is, do I hold out at all for Volta or Coffee-lake or will my waiting ultimately not be worth it? I'm aware waiting for one part will lead you to wait forever but I'm also ok with holding off for a bit longer if people feel it's right decision. I'm also not 100% sold on my case choice just yet so other suggestions would be welcome, as well as any suggestions for replacing other parts.
 

Bloodember

Member
Looking for some final advice and some questions, been a while since I put together a new system. The current plan is a system that pushes 120Hz main for competitive MP games but also where ever else possible on SP games:



I suppose the question right now is, do I hold out at all for Volta or Coffee-lake or will my waiting ultimately not be worth it? I'm aware waiting for one part will lead you to wait forever but I'm also ok with holding off for a bit longer if people feel it's right decision. I'm also not 100% sold on my case choice just yet so other suggestions would be welcome, as well as any suggestions for replacing other parts.
Looks good. As for waiting, no. We don't know when Volta will come out and coffee-lake isn't a good enough upgrade to wait on.
 

vector824

Member
Putting together a rig for my little brother. Wants to play 1080p on high-ultra, AMD GPU is a must for freesync. We're sure on the case, monitor and GPU brand, open to other suggestions. This is the top of his budget, so no going higher!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1097.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 09:40 EDT-0400
 

Bloodember

Member
Putting together a rig for my little brother. Wants to play 1080p on high-ultra, AMD GPU is a must for freesync. We're sure on the case, monitor and GPU brand, open to other suggestions. This is the top of his budget, so no going higher!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1097.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 09:40 EDT-0400
IMO you need to get 16gb of ram, I know some will say otherwise but Ive used at least 16gb for years now.
I'm also pretty sure the X model CPUs don't come with a cooler.
 

vector824

Member
IMO you need to get 16gb of ram, I know some will say otherwise but Ive used at least 16gb for years now.
I'm also pretty sure the X model CPUs don't come with a cooler.

Agreed, down the road for sure. I'm running on 8gb now and have been for a year, so I think he'll be good for a while.

As for the 1500x I checked and it does. 1500x on Amazon

Thanks for the input!
 
First world problems and all, but I felt the EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 was too hotloud in my system. So I decided to try the Strix. So far, much quieter and cooler... but also clocks about 50-60mhz less with a LITTLE coil whine.

Probably not worth it to try and return the Strix for another to see if it fares better, huh? Overall though, I'm happy with it. EVGA.... ya let me down!
 
First world problems and all, but I felt the EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 was too hotloud in my system. So I decided to try the Strix. So far, much quieter and cooler... but also clocks about 50-60mhz less with a LITTLE coil whine.

Probably not worth it to try and return the Strix for another to see if it fares better, huh? Overall though, I'm happy with it. EVGA.... ya let me down!

So the kingpin is probably going to be crazy loud then. Now I know why there are so many 2.5 and 3 slots models.
 

vector824

Member
Going to want DDR4-3200 ram too. Because those CPUs are thirsty for fast ram.

I heard that, but it will definitely bump him out of budget. 3000mhz might be cheap enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1112.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 11:05 EDT-0400
 
So the kingpin is probably going to be crazy loud then. Now I know why there are so many 2.5 and 3 slots models.

Maaaaybe. It does have a better heatsink, but I think these 1080Tis just run too hot for dual-slot coolers. A lot of people do say that their FTW3 cards run cooler than mine did. But I went through 2 of them before trying the Strix, and the Strix is just way cooler somehow.

That said, you don't buy the Kingpin to run it on air. It will perform the same as the other 1080TIs on air. It will shine when the limits are removed for LN2 with maybe some slight improvements on water.

Going to want DDR4-3200 ram too. Because those CPUs are thirsty for fast ram.

Does it make that much difference from 3000mhz RAM? That's what I have....
 

dr_mario

Member
Hey guys, even though I don't have everthing for my PC yet (graphics card, hdd and PSU), I began to screw and plug stuff in yesterday.

I have the ASRock AB350 Pro4 and my case is the Sharkoon T3-W. There are just so many cables coming out of the case front that I just don't know where to plug in what. There was no manual, neitheris there one on the website. Especially, the Power LEDs and the front fans' cables are confusing me.

I will just go by my uploader's chronology:

fanswhatever.jpg


So, there are two of those double-black things. I suppose that they are my front fans. However, I have no idea where to plug them in. The big "sticks", sure, I'll have to find the correct plugs on the SPU. But where are the corresponding Pins on the mainboard? In the manual of another Sharkoon case there is a similar cable and it says I have to either plug it in the SPU OR the mainboard. Does this hold? But I cannot find the Pins. There are 2 Pin things topcorner, right, which do have something to do with LED, but one of them is the CPU Fan LED (which my cooler does not have). Do I plug them in there? And if so, one of my biggest problems of the case: Which direction, ffs? There are no markings whatsoever on the cable. This problem will be mentioned again.
The other SPU-cable thing comes out from I don't where, the white green one, I mean, and I have NO idea what it is and why it only has 2 pins. I hate theses cables.

Now to the USB3.0 cable:
usb30.jpg

I guess this little thing with USB on it is just in case my mobo doesnt have USB3.0, right? If not, there is nothing where I could plug it in near the 3.0 port.

Okay, the last problem is, as mentioned, the direction of pins and groundation, in regard to the power/reset/HDLED cables.

mobomanual.jpg

powerswitchback.jpg

powerswitchfront.jpg


So, on the back of for example the powerswitch (it's blood, not dirt under my nail, btw^^), there is this little arrow. BUT in the manual, the PowerBt is only one pin, not two. I suppose that Power and ResetBt both have their own Groundation? If so, which one is it? The one where the little arrow is or the other one? The same problem I have with HDLed. Which is +, which - ? It also only have a litle arrow. If I didnt miss somtehing, my case doesnt have a cable for the PLED + -, which would be okay for me - but does the mainboard care? do I have to occupy every pin? And if yes, what do I do now? Also, one of the GND pins would remain free(i also would not know which one, because of the directions). Is that bad? I just don't know :(

Oh and I remember. I only use either the small ATX power block or the large one with my SPU, right?

I hope my english wasn't too bad.
 

Bloodember

Member
I heard that, but it will definitely bump him out of budget. 3000mhz might be cheap enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1112.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 11:05 EDT-0400

Here's a build with 16gb of ram with a better motherboard and power supply, imo.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1164.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 11:14 EDT-0400

If you want to save more money you can get a key for Windows 10 pro from play- Asia for $20.
 
I heard that, but it will definitely bump him out of budget. 3000mhz might be cheap enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1112.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 11:05 EDT-0400

Someone linked $20 Windows licenses from PlayAsia a page or two back. Could grab that and it'd easily give you room for faster RAM within your budget.
 

vector824

Member
Here's a build with 16gb of ram with a better motherboard and power supply, imo.

If you want to save more money you can get a key for Windows 10 pro from play- Asia for $20.

Someone linked $20 Windows licenses from PlayAsia a page or two back. Could grab that and it'd easily give you room for faster RAM within your budget.

Sweet thanks! This is very helpful. I like the Gigabyte boards, I have the same series so I'll go with that. But the bump to 3000mhz RAM is doable. Good call on the PSU

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8GB NITRO+ Video Card ($221.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.98 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Case Fan: NZXT - RF-FN122-RB 45.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.99 @ NZXT)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Logitech - SBF-96 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Windows 10 ($20.00)
Total: $1069.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 11:30 EDT-0400
 
A bunch of bills ruined my upgrade plans and pushed it off until end-of-summer (or maybe forever, I guess we'll see), but it finally gave me an excuse to overclock my 2500K to 4.5Ghz.

I'm surprised how much of a difference I'm getting in games like Battlegrounds. Not much stuttering anymore and I'm getting way steadier and higher framerates. Should have done this Day 1.
 
So, on the back of for example the powerswitch (it's blood, not dirt under my nail, btw^^), there is this little arrow. BUT in the manual, the PowerBt is only one pin, not two. I suppose that Power and ResetBt both have their own Groundation? If so, which one is it? The one where the little arrow is or the other one? The same problem I have with HDLed. Which is +, which - ? It also only have a litle arrow. If I didnt miss somtehing, my case doesnt have a cable for the PLED + -, which would be okay for me - but does the mainboard care? do I have to occupy every pin? And if yes, what do I do now? Also, one of the GND pins would remain free(i also would not know which one, because of the directions). Is that bad? I just don't know :(

Oh and I remember. I only use either the small ATX power block or the large one with my SPU, right?

I hope my english wasn't too bad.

The fans can either plug into headers on the motherboard, or they can plug into the power supply directly. That first picture looks like a "tap" for plugging the fans into the power supply. Put them on the motherboard if you can.

For USB, that connector is to hook up the USB ports in the case to the motherboard. Should be a header for it somewhere- check the manual. If not, not a big deal, just the USB ports on the case won't work.

Power/Reset buttons both get ground connections. Header is wired so that you can put the power/reset on either horizontal or vertical and it should still work. Polarity (which pin of the connector is ground) on those switches shouldn't matter.

Polarity on the LEDs does matter. Assume that the arrow goes to + and try that. If it's backwards you won't hurt anything, the LED just won't turn on (so then you turn it around).

Don't worry about extra pin headers, you don't have to occupy every pin.
 

dr_mario

Member
Thanks for the answer.
The fans can either plug into headers on the motherboard, or they can plug into the power supply directly. That first picture looks like a "tap" for plugging the fans into the power supply. Put them on the motherboard if you can.
So here is manual, on p. 7 & 8 are the mobo information: http://asrock.nl/downloadsite/Manual/AB350 Pro4.pdf . 17 & 18 are "Chassis Fan Connectors". Are these what I need? They have four pins, while the plug only has three. Also: Will the green LED on the fans just run by themselves when they are connected there?
I don't understand what you mean with tap, regarding thefirst picture's weird 2pin-connector.

For USB, that connector is to hook up the USB ports in the case to the motherboard. Should be a header for it somewhere- check the manual. If not, not a big deal, just the USB ports on the case won't work.
Sorry for the bad picture. On the USB pic, the long USB3.0 connector is already connected (the fat cable), and this USB-connector just dangles around.
Power/Reset buttons both get ground connections. Header is wired so that you can put the power/reset on either horizontal or vertical and it should still work. Polarity (which pin of the connector is ground) on those switches shouldn't matter.

Polarity on the LEDs does matter. Assume that the arrow goes to + and try that. If it's backwards you won't hurt anything, the LED just won't turn on (so then you turn it around).
Don't worry about extra pin headers, you don't have to occupy every pin.
Okay, that's great. If I can't destory anything, that's good enough for me. Thanks again!
 

blakdeth

Member
Although I had planned to upgrade this spring/summer, the announcement of the new Intel i7-7740X makes me think I should wait.

I don't like the idea of purchasing a CPU and mobo that are so new to market. My preference is to give such things a little time to mature before pulling the trigger.

Unfortunately, that makes the wait that much longer.

I currently have an i5-4670k and a GTX 980Ti that have been extremely stable, so I'm not dying by any stretch of the imagination.

What do you think?
 
Can anyone give me an idea of what I might be able to get out of my barebones rig?

It would have everything but a videocard:

i7 4790k
Asus Z97-A Motherboard
16GB RAM
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Windows 10 Professional
NZXT Kraken X61 Liquid Cooling
NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case
EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 Gold Power Supply
Noctua Case Fans

Super clean, organized build.

Thanks!
 
Really not sure what to think but this has been going on for sometime now it's gotten worse.

On windows 10. My mouse would randomly disconnect you hear the constant ping of it connecting and disconnecting. The light would stay on but it wouldn't move. I had to like shake it around or reconnect it to make it work again. It happened with two different mouses on any of the usb ports front and back. Bought a new power source and still have the issue.

I've just learned to deal with it but it's made playing game with my mouse a pain. This has been ongoing for months. Reformated recently and still does it but now it's started doing it to my kb as well. Only twice but when it happens I can't get the mouse or kb to work at all. No matter how many times I reconnect it.

This happens on the front usb as well. Seems like it's not giving them enough power but my Power source is new and I completely reformatted so if i had any bad settings those would be gone right? I've googled it and people say to change the power settings on usb hubs to not automatically turn off when your pc needs power and that hasn't worked either. Is my Mobo just dying?
 

CPCunha

Member
OK, the time has come. I'm buying parts later tonight following GAFs guide.
But i need specifics... for instance, i'm going for a regular GTX1080... but do we have a consensus on what brand/model is the best? Same goes for memory... i'm going 16 gigs but have no idea if corsair is still the one to go after.

Hit me with specific recommendations, and be gentle on my wallet, i'm on a budget.
 
So here is manual, on p. 7 & 8 are the mobo information: http://asrock.nl/downloadsite/Manual/AB350 Pro4.pdf . 17 & 18 are "Chassis Fan Connectors". Are these what I need? They have four pins, while the plug only has three. Also: Will the green LED on the fans just run by themselves when they are connected there?
I don't understand what you mean with tap, regarding thefirst picture's weird 2pin-connector.


Sorry for the bad picture. On the USB pic, the long USB3.0 connector is already connected (the fat cable), and this USB-connector just dangles around.

Glad that helps a bit. For the fans, you can plug that 3-pin connector into the 4-pin headers on the board, and they will still work. The plug should still fit, and it is shaped to get you on the correct 3 pins. Fans with a 4-pin connector use an extra signal to control the fan speed, which is a bit nicer. You might need to play around with the BIOS to get any sort of speed control working.

The additional 2 pin/ 4pin connector looks like an option that allows the fans to connect directly to the power supply.

You are correct on the USB- that's an extra plug in case your MB doesn't have 3.0, so for you it just dangles unconnected.
 

Bloodember

Member
OK, the time has come. I'm buying parts later tonight following GAFs guide.
But i need specifics... for instance, i'm going for a regular GTX1080... but do we have a consensus on what brand/model is the best? Same goes for memory... i'm going 16 gigs but have no idea if corsair is still the one to go after.

Hit me with specific recommendations, and be gentle on my wallet, i'm on a budget.

Brands of video cards don't really matter, just get the one you like. As for Ram, most brands will work, just make sure they offer a lifetime warranty. I use G.Skill exclusively though.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
OK, the time has come. I'm buying parts later tonight following GAFs guide.
But i need specifics... for instance, i'm going for a regular GTX1080... but do we have a consensus on what brand/model is the best?

Hit me with specific recommendations, and be gentle on my wallet, i'm on a budget.

Like Bloodember said, there isn't really the graphic card, but there are some slight differences. EVGA's for example is slightly smaller than the others and can fit easier into more cases. The one offered by Asus has two HDMI ports while the others only have one. On the other hand Zotac's offering is faster than the others but is rather expensive and is the largest of them all.
Right now if you want the most absolutely light on the wallet card go for Gigabyte.
 

RS4-

Member
Guys, do any of you have any experience with; http://www.v1tech.com/store/ ?


I'm interested backplate for a GPU. Wondering if these guys are legit or if there are better options elsewhere. Looking for a white GPU backplate. not sure which brand.

http://www.coldzero.eu/5-gpu-backplates

Could check these guys out too. I had both sites in mind when I was thinking about buying a backplate for the msi 970 lol.

Got my g1 1070, gonna install it when I get home. Hopefully I don't have enough any issues with it.
 

Izuna

Banned
recruiting

I'm starting work on a Calibration |OT| and if anyone would like to contribute lemme know and I'll send the google doc link. I'm in the market for an X-Rite i1Display Pro so I've done a lot of reading and realise not even AV Forums has something comprehensive and ELI5
 

Ever

Banned
Hi there, first time to PC Building. Trying to get out of console gaming as my main form of gaming, and I want to stop using my old laptop, as it's meant for workstation processes, not for gaming.

For baby's first PC, my budget is around ~$1200 (USA), though I can go up or down a few hundred if necessary. It'll mostly be used to play 6 month old games around high-ultra settings, though the most important thing is a consistent 1080p, 60 fps. I'm also hoping to be able to stream low impact games like League of Legends at a consistent 60 if possible. Some Autodesk usage will be added at some point as well. No plans to overclock right now, maybe if I get more knowledge about it in the future.

Feel free to add any thoughts and suggestions, perhaps either to get the price down or to add efficiency. Thanks :^)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($239.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Jet)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($393.89 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.69 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1339.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 20:06 EDT-0400
 
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