Silent Duck
Member
This thread is great!
Every post I read, I hear the two old guys from the youtube comment reconstructions in my head.
Every post I read, I hear the two old guys from the youtube comment reconstructions in my head.
If Sony had made that purchase, many of y’all would not being saying that it’s anti-consumer for Microsoft to make Bethesda games exclusive.
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Jtibh
Banned
Wouldnt the vacuum deflate that head?
devilNprada
Member
If Sony made the purchase would really suck... Hard to imagine an ES game not on PC..
Bolivar687
Banned
We don't have to speculate if the shoe was on the other foot because Sony would never do something like this.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Nah, it would be like "They actually wasted money buying this shit company, instead of a better studio?"
888
Member
Mmhmmm Sure.
Knitted Knight
Banned
For a PC only gamer this is bad either way. Trading one franchise for the eventual loss of another.... the question is when and who......cause..
Never worry about a thing by owning a PC and a Sony console platform. Peace of mind in these times of war.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Although some times you get a better game with all the DLC and patches
xBlueStonex
Member
Just like the Sony fanboys here were applauding FFXVI exclusivity last week, they would have done the exact same thing if Sony had made this purchase. Sony fans only consider it anti-consumer when it's Xbox.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This thread is anti-getting booty.
sainraja
Member
I guess I need to remind you that the question you were asking is why people are thinking it wouldn't be exclusive. The answer to that, you already should have known. It is because it was Microsoft who made statements such as they would look at it on a case by case basis, etc.
I understood that what they were saying then was because it sounded good. Not because they actually meant it. With the Bethesda & other studios purchase, the situation is very different from when the original statements were made. I personally don't think they will be putting anything on the PS5; I would be surprised if they did go ahead with what they were saying originally around this whole subject.
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If you werent trying to moneyhat every developer possible to push people into your console by killing the Xbox version and trying to be a near monopoly as the PS2, especially with MS long time partners who announced the games with no platform and left interpretation that they were multi because the company releases since Oblivion were multiplats, it wouldn't have happened.
Journey
Banned
When Sony acquired Insomniac, robbing Xbox gamers from ever getting a sequel to Sunset Overdrive, it was called a Megaton and a win for Sony. Zero fucks given by Sony fans, absolutely no concern whatsoever, in fact they defended the idea. No mind reading required to figure out if Sony bought ZeniMax, we would see a celebration 
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devilNprada
Member
As a TES fan though, I also fear the budget gets nerfed by being an exclusive day one gamepass. I expect a fucking huge ambitious game.
Journey
Banned
It will be available on disc and on PC, unless you believe that every gamer alive that plays Elder scrolls also has GamePass, then that's actually a good thing, that's a lot of freaking subscribers, it's like saying Game of Thrones won't be a high budget series because no one is buying the DVDs anymore and instead depend on HBO subscribers.
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
Can you guys stop making threads about this no one really cares. Anti-consumer is a dumb term no one cares about. Vote with your wallet and stop crying.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It will have a bigger budget under MS than it would have had.
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Games released in last 4 years:
God of War,
Death Stranding,
Spider-Man,
Ghost of Tsushima,
Days Gone,
The Last of Us 2,
Dreams,
= Sony coasting.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
SupremeHoodie
Member
Well duh, it's sony gaf. Sony fanboys have free reign here.
SupremeHoodie
Member
Isn't it whoever does it?
Brofist
Member
Sure if you say so
Sir Vilhelm
Member
If Sony made that purchase this site would be in jubilee, I saw it in my crystal ball.
Zannegan
Member
...or it was never cool with a lot of us, and the same people who called MS out for their Tomb Raider and CoD timed exclusivity BS are going to call Sony out for the same thing. *shrug*
Plus, you know there's a difference between actually investing in a studio to make them first party and just paying them to delay launch on another system.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony buys a studio. Game is walled into a PS ecosystem.
MS buys a studio. Game is walled into Xbox and PC ecosystem. And even wider than that with Android streaming. Minecraft was bought in 2014 and left alone on all platforms.
You pick which is worse.
MS buys a studio. Game is walled into Xbox and PC ecosystem. And even wider than that with Android streaming. Minecraft was bought in 2014 and left alone on all platforms.
You pick which is worse.
Bryank75
Banned
Well, I would love Sony to stop being tight-asses and get out and buy some publishers or make them subsidiaries. If they leave it too long, they will increase another few billion in price....
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It was really cool when Sony bought Pysgnosis in the 90s and stopped making Sega and computer multiplats soon after. And they did a big Eidos exclusivity deal so all console Tomb Raider sequels till 2000 were PS only.
No wonder the sequels never came to Saturn and N64.
Tomb Raider - Wikipedia
The first entry in the series Tomb Raider was released in 1996 for personal computers (PC), PlayStation and Sega Saturn consoles.[7][8] The Saturn and PlayStation versions were released in Japan in 1997.[9][10] Its sequel, Tomb Raider II, launched in 1997, again for Microsoft Windows and PlayStation. A month before release, Eidos finalised a deal with Sony Computer Entertainment to keep the console version of Tomb Raider II and future games exclusive to PlayStation until the year 2000.[7][8] The PlayStation version was released in Japan in 1998.[11] Tomb Raider III launched in 1998.[8] As with Tomb Raider II, the PlayStation version released in Japan the following year.[12] The fourth consecutive title in the series, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, released in 1999. In 2000, with the end of the PlayStation exclusivity deal, the game also released on the Dreamcast.[7][13] In Japan, both console versions released the following year.[14][15] Tomb Raider Chronicles released in 2000 on the same platforms as The Last Revelation, with the PlayStation version's Japanese release as before coming the following year.
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Bryank75
Banned
I was a Nintendo fanboy back then....It was really cool when Sony bought Pysgnosis in the 90s and stopped making Sega and computer multiplats soon after. And they did a big Eidos exclusivity deal so all console Tomb Raider sequels till 2000 were PS only.
No wonder the sequels never came to Saturn and N64.
Tomb Raider - Wikipedia
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The first entry in the series Tomb Raider was released in 1996 for personal computers (PC), PlayStation and Sega Saturn consoles.[7][8] The Saturn and PlayStation versions were released in Japan in 1997.[9][10] Its sequel, Tomb Raider II, launched in 1997, again for Microsoft Windows and PlayStation. A month before release, Eidos finalised a deal with Sony Computer Entertainment to keep the console version of Tomb Raider II and future games exclusive to PlayStation until the year 2000.[7][8] The PlayStation version was released in Japan in 1998.[11] Tomb Raider III launched in 1998.[8] As with Tomb Raider II, the PlayStation version released in Japan the following year.[12] The fourth consecutive title in the series, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, released in 1999. In 2000, with the end of the PlayStation exclusivity deal, the game also released on the Dreamcast.[7][13] In Japan, both console versions released the following year.[14][15] Tomb Raider Chronicles released in 2000 on the same platforms as The Last Revelation, with the PlayStation version's Japanese release as before coming the following year.
BootsLoader
Banned
You misunderstood the whole thing.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
SNES was my last Nintendo system. It was PS1 for me. N64 coming out a year or later wasn't the issue. It was the launch gamers which were awful. I could either get a PS1 or N64 in 1996, went with PS1.
I think my starting batch of PS1 games were Formula 1, RE, Tomb Raider, Tekken 2. Then got Ace Combat 2 and Legacy of Kain later.
Also, N64 games were $100 cdn. When PS games were $60 new or $40-50 used.
Ended up being an easy choice.
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Agent X
Member
Psygnosis was acquired by Sony in 1993, but Sony granted them a level of autonomy. They continued making computer games until 2000. While they phased out most of their Sega/Nintendo developments after PlayStation was released, they did port over a few PlayStation games to both Saturn and Nintendo 64, including Wipeout and Destruction Derby.
During the late 90s, Sony Computer Entertainment also ported several non-Psygnosis PlayStation games to PC, including Twisted Metal 2 and NFL GameDay 99.
petran79
Banned
They even got exclusivity deals with Japanese publishers or in most cases got the better version of games too.
Though their online netcode was vastly better than psn.
Esca
Member
I personally am not a fan of either side buying up a big publisher like this. But if i had to pick between Sony and ms owning zenimax I would choose ms for two reasons. 1. They else their games on the pc and 2. Ms needs to be competitive. Ultimately it doesn't effect me since I've always looked at zenimax titles to be far better on the pc in general due to mods
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I agree.
No doubt MS is more open to multipat gaming than Sony. So it is the better choice.
I don't even game on PC anymore, but it's good to see Bethesda games will continue on PC, especially since that is the legacy platform for Bethesda games to begin with and that's where the tons of modders are. If Sony bought them somehow, don't be surprised if it became brickwalled behind a PS console.
Also, since the games will be on Game Pass, you'll get a lot of new gamers trying out Bethesda games instead of avoiding them due to a $60 price tag.
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Wizz-Art
Member
And again if you can get some of those games in the future - if not all - on PC or through Xcloud and some will be on Nintendo Switch and even mobile - wich to everyone who has some understanding is what case to case refers to - this technically isn't exclusivity, it only means they will never be on PS. There are many many pro's to that and almost none cons.
JerryinSoCal
Member
The company wasn't even valued at $7.5 billion when it was making games for more platforms, now it'll be worth even less because they won't be making games for PlayStation which will still be the better selling of the two consoles by far. Knocking out over half of your potential customer base isn't really a great idea when you are spending that kind of money.
Wizz-Art
Member
The burden to prove it is on you, I can also claim Sony isn't worth 100 billion for instance but I need prove to stake such a claim.
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The Hamburglar
Banned
It is anti consumer whoever does it. Xbox were getting these games regardless. So not sure why they're celebrating? Phil paid 7 billion to stop Sony having these games Xbox were already getting.
That 7 billion could have been spent on new ips. So congrats for paying 7 billion for something you were already getting.
Before anyone says Gamepass. It will take a ridiculous amount of years probably the entire of next gen for Bethesda to even get close to that 7 billion in sales.
That 7 billion could have been spent on new ips. So congrats for paying 7 billion for something you were already getting.
Before anyone says Gamepass. It will take a ridiculous amount of years probably the entire of next gen for Bethesda to even get close to that 7 billion in sales.
Redlancet
Banned
i love ohow
is so funny how ms fanboys need to speculate this shit just to justified things they were labeled anti consumer by them two weeks ago
Laptop1991
Member
Sony definitely would have made the games exclusive, Sony does that more than anyone else, so i prefer MS to own the Bethesda games out of the 2, i still think MS will make some of them timed exclusives at least.
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