IGN is Anti-Nintendo DS!! Nintendo Fans fight back!!
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We've always had the PC vs. console debates... the DC vs. PS2 debates were volital... then came the PS2 vs. Xbox vs. GC debates, which seem to exclude GC these days, but are still quite fierce... now add into the mix the DS vs. PSP debates and we're well on our way to TOTAL SYSTEM FAILURE or FORUM IMPLOSION.
For the love of humanity, please stop...the....MADNESS!!!
For the love of humanity, please stop...the....MADNESS!!!
MrparisSM said:
Yes, the insults and snide remarks were warranted. You claimed they had nothing but bad things to say about the DS - one counterexample shows you were wrong. Though thanks for the expert opinion on what trolls do.
MrparisSM said:
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
JackFrost2012
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Hardknock said:
You don't have to be a stupid, narrow-minded, infantile Nintendo fan to visit & read IGN.DS.
Not that all Nintendo fans are, but the ones who would be upset by details of a rival handheld being posted, most definitely fall into this catagory.
Doom_Bringer
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Please don't unban MrparisSM! 
krypt0nian
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Amir0x said:
Yes and not one bad word about them. Only hopes that he missed a way to jump back into the races on RR. Pretty much proves out the whole thread premise.
Notice I said "bad" MarkRyan?
krypt0nian said:
Is it possible... and this may be a bit hard to believe but stick with me now... that IGN editors don't feel the need to put a bad spin on it the same as they barely mention load times in regular games? Could it be that - *gasp* - they have some perspective and realize loading comes along with the territory and will only get better? Loading in of itself is a representative of the technology; nobody likes loading times, but as long as it doesn't interfere once you're in the heart of the game it's negligible on the quality of the gameplay.
The thing about Nintendo fans in general is that they think somehow that people should be insulting the PSP because it has load times - as if there was some magnificent alternative way to avoid such things. As technology progresses, there will always be the "bump" in the road. But just as load times did not ruin the great PSX games, load times will not ruin the great PSP games - and it's as simple as that. Things don't magically change because now the loading times enter the realm of handhelds. I have DS and I reccomend it, and I believe you have one too... so if you're the type of person who honestly thinks that load times are "unacceptable" on the handheld circuit you could pretty much ignore the PSP, eh?
AgentCooper
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I'm just surprised this hasn't been locked already.
krypt0nian
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Amir0x said:
As they mention it and mark down for it in EVERY head to head, I'd say I have a point. But now that its a PSP flaw, its not even a bump in the road for them.
They have zero problem putting a bad spin on anything they see wrong with the DS now don't they?
They are pick up and play handheld titles, made for quick fun on the go. Waiting 24secs kinda defeats this point. They could have put a faster drive in it, but it still is the holy and perfect PSP at IGN.
krypt0nian said:
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You're completely miss the point. Loading doesn't defeat the point. At all. I am a handheld gamer and I'm telling you it doesn't. Nobody LIKES load times but they are 100% expected in this medium. It is a negative, no doubt. But you're acting like IGN should write inflammatory editorials about load times. They don't do it for any console; why would it change for handhelds? Your bullshit doctrine on how handhelds should play is irrelevant.
They do absolutely nothing to detract from the gameplay, unless, for instance, you're playing an RPG and every battle takes 10 seconds to load. As it is, though, PSP games load much like PSX games load... and guess what... there are so many fantastic PSX games that it defies logic. So it's pointless. Standards don't change because it's on handheld; load times don't suddenly become the knife in the heart simply because the game is on the go.
So reality check. IGN has said negative things about PSP a shitload of times. I could sit here demonstrating every single time they have, or you could go back into your conspiratorial shell of Nintendo love and accept that they are giving what they feel is honest criticism of both systems.
krypt0nian
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Amir0x said:
*sigh* Your bullshit post means nothing as well.
See I can play this game too.
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Loading is detrimental to handheld play. I'm not asking for no load rtimes I'm asking for realistic load times that could have been accomplished by not skimping on the drive speed.
Again they are a part of every head to head. So they matter.
krypt0nian said:
I said your bullshit doctrine on how handheld games should play means nothing, and it's true.
krypt0nian said:
Loading isn't detrimental to handheld play, much like it isn't detrimental to most console games. The standards do not and absolutely never will change simply because it is gaming on the go. Period. The faster you accept that the faster your viewpoints can jive with reality.
You keep saying "they are part of every head to head", and this may be true. But it's only part of every head to head in that it's always better to NOT have loading times then it is TO have loading times. It's worth noting only in passing; it does shit on how great games end up being, and that's the point. Standards don't suddenly change for handheld games, boss.
krypt0nian
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Amir0x said:
Of course they do. You can keep calling it bullshit but it does nothing to change it. You can bold and italics that as well - no matter, boss. :lol
Back to my Nintendo shell... pfft
krypt0nian
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Amir0x said:I'll make sure to make note of this when I'm playing all my classic PSX games with the horrible load times. I'll try to figure out a way not to enjoy them! Things change in the handheld! Ohohoho!
Here's your shell, madame. You get the classic homing shell!
Resorting to cool net pics further validates me. Tanx.
The standards do change when it comes to portables when you look at the original GB versus the Turbo Express. The leap was greater than the DS vs PSP, yet battery life was the biggest concern as was the games. In the handheld wars it has been the games that rules what people buy not the graphics sound etc which are the staples of consoles games. The load times are something none of us can say anything about. I am not getting the psp because of that and the battery issues. Neither am I getting the DS unless I see a game that interests me on it.
Monk said:
The difference is consoles don't need batteries; handhelds do. Similarly, this situation is not without precedent. When we were moving to the PSX/N64/Saturn era there were shitloads of gamers on various forums crying about load times. And guess what? It didn't matter. The games came out, the games still kicked ass, and the world moved on.
History will show that the same will hold true of the PSP.
Yes, but those games in that era with large loading times were for adults, not kids with ADD. Adults will have no problems with it, but those kids are another issue. Unless you think that the psp will sell more to adults than kids of course. But that is also another matter.
The handheld demographic as of now is a lot younger than the console demographic.
The handheld demographic as of now is a lot younger than the console demographic.
MrparisSM said:
3. At the very beginning of "Revolution 9", repeating over and over, and heard again many times later in the cut, is the phrase "Number nine" in a very formal british voice. When played backwards, this phrase sounds like "Turn me on, dead man", repeated over and over. This clue is doubly eerie when you remember John singing "I'd love to turn you on..." at the end of A Day In The Life.
4. There is some mumbling that sounds like John and Yoko right after the very abrupt ending of I'm So Tired and before the beginning of the next song, Blackbird. This passage has no english interpretation when played forwards. However, when played backwards, you can hear John say, "Paul is a dead man. Miss him. Miss him. MISS HIM!" This is again doubly eerie, in that this backwards message again mentions the phrase "dead man", and that the very next line on the record, sung by Paul, "Blackbird singing in the dead of night", also mentions death.
FnordChan
I can certainly see load times getting annoying in certain portable gaming situations. Maybe not a deal breaker, but something that may lower the device's usefulness in certain situations.
When you have a lot of time on your hands, or if you're just at home playing, it probably won't matter much.
But when you're in those situations where you're just killing a few minutes of time while you wait for someone, it'd be pretty annoying to have a chunk of that time just be spent staring at a load screen for the game and then the load screen for the level, etc.
I mean, the boot sequence of the DS is already just long enough to be annoying in some of those situations. The amount of time it takes to go from power on to actually being in Mario 64 DS playing is kind of grating.
When you have a lot of time on your hands, or if you're just at home playing, it probably won't matter much.
But when you're in those situations where you're just killing a few minutes of time while you wait for someone, it'd be pretty annoying to have a chunk of that time just be spent staring at a load screen for the game and then the load screen for the level, etc.
I mean, the boot sequence of the DS is already just long enough to be annoying in some of those situations. The amount of time it takes to go from power on to actually being in Mario 64 DS playing is kind of grating.