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IGN Posts Up More Project Cafe Hardware Power Rumors
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I want to know more about the controller too. Pachter talked about the idea that since the controller will have it's own screen could you potentially take it with you and play it as a portable. I thought that was a really interesting idea, and personally I think I'd really like something like that.
Vanillalite
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Must say a 1 gig 4850 is wayyyyy better than the original idea I had for an R700. I was figuring maybe a 4730 or something, but a 4850 is a pretty beastly DX10 card with 1 gig of RAM. It's not gonna be in leagues with the DX11 stuff, but 4850 1 gig basically eats up all the DX10 games out there as well as all of the console stuff that's also on PC.
DeathbyVolcano
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This is very cool. Glad to see Nintendo taking power seriously.
Smiles and Cries
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what should we do about IGN if all of this is a LIE?
Mr_Brit said:
Which games are those? I guess I could maybe exceed 1GB of GPU RAM in GTA IV, but at those cranked up settings, the game would suck so bad lack of RAM would be the least of my issues.
As for system RAM, very few games even need more than 2GB RAM in Windows 7. I had some dud sticks I was procrastinating on RMAing (finally did last week) and was rocking 2GB system RAM for a couple months while I had them pulled. Also always monitor my resources. Pretty much all console ports running at 1080P never broke the 2GB system barrier (Many came real close, but it's clear the were optimized to not crash through 2GB system RAM). The only games that exceeded that and ran awful were eastern European PC games. You're vastly overstating requirements for system and GPU on PC.
Hero of Legend
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Smiles and Cries
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Hero of Legend said:
this has my vote Evilore
Pancakes R Us
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Heh, not sure what will happen there, but there will be a lot of disappointed people. Try to keep expectations in check...it may not turn out to be the 'beast' power-wise that some are expecting it to be.Smiles and Cries said:
There you have your difference. Obviously games made for 512MB won't require more than 2GB. That doesn't mean that a game built around modern PC specs (or even semi-modern stuff like the rumoured Cafe specs) wouldn't require more memory.1-D_FTW said:
(By the way, Portal 2's mini-levels with loading pauses are very annoying when you're sitting there with 10 GB of free memory)
Littlegator
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This is an awful comparison, tbqh. Console games are coded direct-to-metal. A PC with comparable hardware will not perform nearly as well as its console counterpart.
-bakalhau-
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I've seen a lot of comparisons, I haven't read through all the pages but here's mine.
With specs like that, and the usual console optimization that comes from developing on closed architecture, we could run Crysis 1 at at least 1680x1050 maxed out, with at least EdgeAA, at 30fps.
Edit: It would also run Crysis 2 at Very High (equal to Crysis 1 VH) at 60fps. Bear in mind Very High isn't much worse than Extreme settings, which is the highest setting, at all.
With specs like that, and the usual console optimization that comes from developing on closed architecture, we could run Crysis 1 at at least 1680x1050 maxed out, with at least EdgeAA, at 30fps.
Edit: It would also run Crysis 2 at Very High (equal to Crysis 1 VH) at 60fps. Bear in mind Very High isn't much worse than Extreme settings, which is the highest setting, at all.
SapientWolf
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That, and they don't use COTS video cards for consoles. The GPU would be custom made. They wouldn't just toss a 4850 in there.Littlegator said:
Hero of Legend
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You know I'd be fine if it was approximately this powerful, after all IGN did say some slight variants are to be expected.
If it's better than that, great! But if it definitely falls short, then tsk tsk IGN.
I do believe their 360 "like" power comment with the 3DS. Revelations shows it, that's all I need. Blame other devs for not pushing it as such.
If it's better than that, great! But if it definitely falls short, then tsk tsk IGN.
I do believe their 360 "like" power comment with the 3DS. Revelations shows it, that's all I need. Blame other devs for not pushing it as such.
DR3AM
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rumors are called rumors for a reason, if they are wrong with their predictions, who cares? why would you block a website based on a rumor? its not like they are saying everything is correct. also, they posted it on their own website for their own audience and someone copied it here. absolutely no reason to block ign.
im not defending ign and i think they have been going downhill for years now but some of you hate ign with a passion and one more thing, other websites have been wrong before too.
im not defending ign and i think they have been going downhill for years now but some of you hate ign with a passion and one more thing, other websites have been wrong before too.
AceBandage
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The screen on the controller will be sub HD if not sub 480p.Coen said:
Hero of Legend
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DR3AM said:
Thing is, they are said to have "trustworthy" sources. If they're wrong (at least it being less powerful), then that would show that their sources are not so reliable.
And they blew their cash on putting together hardware to make a point, sure $400+ is probably pocket change for IGN, but I don't know, they seem more sure than usual, and it's a pretty damn big subject.
AceBandage
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Yup. Bigger leap than PS2 to PS3.AzureJericho said:
Seraphinianus
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Hero of Legend said:
how about no because it was annoying as shit trying to click through when people would post something from joystiq or kotaku (i mix up them up), when it was censored.
let grown ups make their own decisions about who to give hits to, instead of this petty crap.
herzogzwei1989
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Mr_Brit said:
True, you need at least one order of magnitude of an increase (10x) to be concidered a generational leap, IMHO. Still, 4x 360's GPU would allow for some spectacular graphics.
EAD Tokyo has shown what they can do with year-1999 architecture (GCN) that's only 1.5x faster (Wii) with Mario Galaxy which looked awesome for such old hardware.
http://replay.web.archive.org/20060106015630/http://game-science.com/news/000671.htmllinko9 said:
Nintendo were losing money because even at 99$ ( GC price when article came out ) the GC were selling far to low.
They resolved the problem reusing most of GC part and production lines to build the Wii.
Hero of Legend
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Smision said:
It's basically a symbol to show whether the sites in question are good sources or if they're reliable.
Seraphinianus
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Hero of Legend said:
but it makes no sense because they post good stories and they post utter shit too. If every game site was held to that standard, we wouldn't be able to post any links.
one bad story or attention-grab or review you disagree with doesn't poison the well, they still copy/paste press releases that aren't sent to us commoners, like good little game journalist monkeys.
Vanillalite
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AzureJericho said:
I am off a similar mindset that it's gonna be hard to tell what constitutes a generational leap now a days.
Plus if we are going by raw numbers the higher the numbers the more a 3 or 4 times increase is a fuck ton verses at low raw numbers and a slightly higher multiplier.
Vanillalite
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Durante said:
The logic math wise has to change though because we aren't just upping say we can push 10 times as many polys now and last gen it was 20k. Now it might only be 4 times as many polys or something, but the base number now is like 100 mill.
Celine said:
Is this really true?
They obviously saved on developing a new architecture, but the chips on the wii are built at a smaller process (90nm, just like the 360 originally), while the gamecube used a 180nm process, so I don't see how they could reuse the gamecube parts, outside the controller ports.
Grampa Simpson
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The funny wears off really fast though. Kind of like Stephen Colbert.Jocchan said:
SolarPowered
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It'll pretty much be the same for most developers. Very few of them took advantage of the gamecube and never even approached the Wii seriously.AceBandage said:
It'll be a complete generation jump for the consumer and the people working on the console if the rumors are even somewhat on the mark.
Thunder Monkey
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On top of that I doubt any manufacturer other than Nintendo will be able to say with a straight face (this console is 10x more powerful!) than their last.Brettison said:
Only way Sony and MS will be able to do it is by releasing $599+ consoles
IchigoSharingan
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DieH@rd said:
wow...that is disgusting. I'm speechless.
shadyspace
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For some reason, I never knew Nintendo first-party developed Star Tropics or that it wasn't a JRPG.
AceBandage
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shadyspace said:
Uh, it was made by Nintendo R&D3...
shadyspace
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AceBandage said:
Yeah. Check my edit.
Seraphinianus
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shadyspace said:
sounds like you mixed it up with Star Ocean, maybe? I think the first one was on SNES.
shadyspace
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Smision said:
Yeah, pretty sure that's what I did. Anyway, so were they basically just Zelda clones or was there something stand out about them?
AceBandage
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shadyspace said:
Zelda with better dungeons, more exploration, a better story and some light platforming.
Grampa Simpson
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Darksiders?AceBandage said: