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IGN Posts Up More Project Cafe Hardware Power Rumors
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comedy bomb
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TekkenMaster said:
Pikmin 3
Cosmic Walker
F Zero or Wave Race
Dr.Palutena
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Gravijah said:
no man this is nintendo, they will show it off in all sorts of sexy and awesome colors, but then when launch comes we'll get black and [odd choice] . ;;
old franchises i wish they'll show for Café/things likely to be shown imo:
Starfox
Warioware
Pikmin
new ip (wii sports like/shows off features of Cafe)
new ip ( "core game" charcter-based)
TekkenMaster said:
I think we won't see Zelda due to Skyward Sword.
So Mario or Mario related title, I'm still expected it to be New Super Mario Bros Cafe
I would imagine either Wave Race or 1080 since sports titles seem the best to show off the graphical leap especially with snow and water.
Pikmin 3 HD
And some form of teaser for Smash Bros.
They will tease a new franchise or two like Project HAMMER
TekkenMaster
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SmithnCo said:
Hasn't Miyamoto been teasing Pikmin 3 for like 12 years now?
AceBandage
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With Super Mario, Mario Kart and Paper Mario, I doubt VERY much we'll see a Mario Cafe title.
Most likely choices:
Smash Bros
Pikmin
F-Zero
Metroid
New IP
In that order.
Most likely choices:
Smash Bros
Pikmin
F-Zero
Metroid
New IP
In that order.
Grampa Simpson said:
I'd agree with you, and I doubt any developers are using much assembly these days (even if it's easier on consoles' RISC CPUs than x86, it's still a lot of effort for little gain). I would say, though, that what I'm thinking of here is for developers to be able to say "If it runs on the XBox 360 it will run at least as well on the Café". Code that requires a lot of 64-bit precision calculations will run on a 32-bit processor, but considerably slower, all other things being equal.
Grampa Simpson said:
Threads aren't quite the same as cores, and there are plenty of situations where code that runs smoothly on 4 cores would run like crap on a 4-thread single core processor. Worse still, it can be fairly difficult (unless you have a very good understanding of the processor's architecture) to tell which code multi-threads well and which doesn't, so a (say) single core, 6-thread processor could require some fairly frustrating code rewrites, violating the "If it runs on XBox 360 it'll run on Café" paradigm. A single-thread 6 core processor could work, I'll admit.
Grampa Simpson said:
Yes, you're quite right, but we'd be looking at the same ballpark when it comes to clock speed, especially as rumours thus far have indicated as much.
Grampa Simpson said:
Yeah, cost and heat are certainly an issue. If they did use a CPU based on it, it would have to be stripped down to 3.2-3.4Ghz, 3 cores, smaller cache, etc., to get anywhere near feasibility.
Grampa Simpson said:
The A2 could be an option, but it seems to be designed for in-order execution (see here, page 7).
Grampa Simpson said:
That's actually a possibility, I hadn't looked at non-IBM processors. Although I'm not sure they'd necessarily be able to ensure binary compatibility with Wii, depending on whatever customisations IBM may have made for Nintendo.
Grampa Simpson said:
If they actually have been working on it since 2009, then there's also the possibility that it's not based on any existing chip, but rather an entirely custom design for Nintendo. It's not usually done, but with a production run of 30m-100m units, it's perfectly feasible if no existing processor suits.
beelzebozo
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i'd like it if they had just a carbon copy of new releases in the series which launched gamecube, because i am a sucker for nostalgia and traditions. at the very least, to have an update to LUIGI'S MANSION and WAVE RACE would be really excellent.
AceBandage
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ReyVGM said:
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Your avatar is boobs...
Dr.Palutena
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AceBandage said:
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herzogzwei1989
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TekkenMaster said:
I'm hoping for that myself ^__^
I think we'll have playable Mario, F-zero, Pikmin 3, and either a new IP from Retro, or Retro reviving another old franchise. I would REALLY be glad if I found out they were actually making Metroid.
I have a strong feeling we're going to see F-zero. It's time for a new F-zero, and it would be a great franchise to show off hardware power with.
I don't think we'll see starfox. That franchise has been wounded so badly that I don't think they would want to launch new hardware around it. F-zero is a little dusty, and the last game didn't sell that well, but it was a huge hit with critics and many gamers.
I have a strong feeling we're going to see F-zero. It's time for a new F-zero, and it would be a great franchise to show off hardware power with.
I don't think we'll see starfox. That franchise has been wounded so badly that I don't think they would want to launch new hardware around it. F-zero is a little dusty, and the last game didn't sell that well, but it was a huge hit with critics and many gamers.
Error Macro
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TekkenMaster said:
-Super New Super Mario Bros. Super (Holiday 2012) -- no 3D Mario yet
-Pikmin 3 (launch?)
-Wave Race (launch title - perfectly in time for summer)
-Star Fox [Retro developed] (somewhere in Holiday season)
-Skyward Sword Wii version, which is forwards-compatible w/ Cafe; 1080p rendering and HD assets already on the disc
Mario Kart won't happen until 2013
Smash Bros. maybe at launch
some game that utilizes Cafe/3DS connectivity (?)
It's fun to speculate! Nothing is wrong!
bgassassin
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AceBandage said:
Thanks a lot Ace. *can't unsee*
I'm with beelzebozo. I'd like to see those games updated and showing on the new hardware. Nintendo has done very well with the water physics on Wave Race in the past and would like to see what they could do now.
herzogzwei1989
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If Cafe indeed uses the RV770 as the basis of its GPU, then I hope for God's sake that all 16 ROPs remain in tact.
It really hurt both Xenos and RSX to have only 8 ROPs providing only 4 Gpixels/sec fillrate. That's not good enough for HD.
It really hurt both Xenos and RSX to have only 8 ROPs providing only 4 Gpixels/sec fillrate. That's not good enough for HD.
I would really like to see CDprojekt bring the Witcher 2 over with their desire to console it. Cafe would be a great system for it and be the type of title Nintendo could use 3rd party wise.
We know CDProjekt was at the 3DS conference yesterday so they are looking at Nintendo platforms at least.
We know CDProjekt was at the 3DS conference yesterday so they are looking at Nintendo platforms at least.
AceBandage
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antonz said:
I hadn't heard that. Interesting...
I'm learning stuff that I didn't know before today.
Like more random kidnappings of people to work on a Nintendo project.
One of the marketing Managers at Aksys Games commented on twitter they were sitting next to the Witcher 2s Producer. Her next tweet confirmed she was at the Developer Conference Nintendo was doing.AceBandage said:
Doesnt really confirm anything but the fact CD Projekt was at the Nintendo conference is a big deal in its own right.
AceBandage
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scitek said:
Nope.
Maybe upscaled a bit through BC, but that's about it.
From The Dust
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since this would/will/might use Power PC to ensure backwards compatiblity, wouldn't the GCN be compatible as well?
AceBandage
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antonz said:
If it's WiiBC, then by default, it should be GCBC.
I mean, it's the same architecture, just different clock speeds and RAM.
Oh, you mean controller ports.
Haha, yeah what Krowley said.
Error Macro
Member
antonz said:
Didn't one of IGN's sources emphasize that it would be both Wii and GC BC?
bgassassin
Member
antonz said:
Now that would be interesting to see. Maybe they could resurrect "They" for it as well.
From The Dust
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comedy bomb said:
fuck you man ;_;
Yeah you are right with all the hardware talk been awhile since considering the controller talk.Krowley said:
In that situation you are right through virtue of the more traditional controller it should replace the gamecube controller well enough. Would be a crazy system in a way being BC with 2 prior systems heh
AceBandage
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antonz said:
Well, the PS3 was... originally...
scitek said:
It'd be cool if they allowed you to upscale it into HD, but I just don't see 3D happening. I don't think they're gonna start developing for 3D until it becomes a bit more widespread. I don't even know anyone with a 3D TV yet. I'm not even sure if my local Wal-Mart carries them yet.
Playable:TekkenMaster said:
Pikmin 3, Id be genuinely surprised if it didnt show up.
F-Zero
Some sort of casual title, something to show Cafe features maybe?
New IP, Miyamoto related game or something.
And then in trailer form:
Retro's game, new IP hopefully
Some sort of Mario game
Sports title(maybe Waverace or 1080?)
Star Fox
herzogzwei1989
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scitek said:
Nonsense.
From The Dust
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at the very least, Nintendo should enable anti-aliasing for BC Wii/GCN games at any resolution
herzogzwei1989
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scitek said:
Well, yeah, that too.
Wolves Evolve
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Instro said:
This is the only likely one out of the list.
herzogzwei1989
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I cannot wait to see what Retro can pull off on Cafe.
I'm also saddened that Factor 5 has been reduced to making Facebook games....
I'm also saddened that Factor 5 has been reduced to making Facebook games....
bgassassin
Member
herzogzwei1989 said:
Thornado Cafe
Believe!
ReyVGM
Member
I think Pikmin 3 will definitely be there. There's no way they can hold out on it any longer. It's gonna be a Cafe launch game.
Praying for F-Zero. If it is, it'll be playable and it'll be a launch game. If not, Nintendo has buried the fucking franchise.
Something new that really shows uses the controller. Think Wii Sports.
Maybe a new Mario. Playable, but not a launch game.
I stand by my prediction of a Smash Bros teaser. If it's playable I might just die.
Praying for F-Zero. If it is, it'll be playable and it'll be a launch game. If not, Nintendo has buried the fucking franchise.
Something new that really shows uses the controller. Think Wii Sports.
Maybe a new Mario. Playable, but not a launch game.
I stand by my prediction of a Smash Bros teaser. If it's playable I might just die.
From The Dust
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Sega has went on record saying Nintendo hasn't asked them to do another F-Zero. now either they are lying, the game moved to a new developer (Monster?), or they don't have one planned
http://www.totalvideogames.com/Mario--Sonic-at-the-London-2012-Olympic-Games/feature-16475.html