IGN: PS5 is outselling Xbox Series X/S 5:1

No shit. MS have given up on Xbox hardware, and you are telling us that Sony is selling more PS ?


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People are saying we already knew this, but I didn't - or at least, I didn't realize the ratio was 5 to 1. That's assuming IGN is playing fair with the numbers (I didn't watch the video).

Edit: I skimmed to the part where he talked about sales, around 9:20. It seems fishy to me. He refers to a Sony financial report in which Sony announced 65 m PS5 consoles sold, and he then compares that to Xbox's 29.7 m.. Then, in the very next sentence, he says, "To break that down, for every one Xbox Series S/X console bought, 5 Playstation 5 consoles are also purchased."

Um, that doesn't follow at all. The data he just gave paints a 2 to 1 ratio. Yet he makes it sound ("to break that down"...) as if the 5 to 1 is just further elaboration on what he has just said - when actually it's contradictory. I wonder where he's getting that 5 to 1 ratio from. Maybe he mentioned it in another part of the video I didn't watch.

Edit 2: Oops, I had skimmed past (missed) the part where he explained that the 5 to 1 ratio comes from the Statista data from 2024, where they estimates Xbox sales at 2.5 million for the year. Now it makes sense.
 
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Humdinger said:
Any 5 to 1 ratio would refer to current sales ratio, not overall sales ratio. You can't conflate the two. Confusing.
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He is indeed referring to the current sales ratio.

Series S, at least, had a decent start to the generation. Sales have fallen off a cliff this last few months though.

Each time Microsoft announces a new PlayStation game it seems to damage the Xbox brand and, thus sales, further.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
He is indeed referring to the current sales ratio.

Series S, at least, had a decent start to the generation. Sales have fallen off a cliff this last few months though.

Each time Microsoft announces a new PlayStation game it seems to damage the Xbox brand and, thus sales, further.
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Forza Horizon - the Hammer

Halo - The Nail

Gear of War - The hand that hammers the Nail into the Xbox coffin.

:messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
And this year there will be even more difference in favor of PS5, I don't know how Xbox plans to hold out until Nov 2026? almost two years with the console almost dead.
 
Majima Everywhere System said:
The series generation was a silly one. They never had a chance with decisions they set in stone during the one era (day 1 game pass, pc releases, acquisitions over output)
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The Series X is a solid console and a far cry from the One S disaster.

Still, the issue with Xbox this last two generations has been down to games. Their first party was severely lacking in the One generation and, just as things seemed to be turning a corner, they went completely third party at the half way point of the Series generation.
 
Humdinger said:
People are saying we already knew this, but I didn't - or at least, I didn't realize the ratio was 5 to 1. That's assuming IGN is playing fair with the numbers (I didn't watch the video).

edit: I skimmed to the part where they talked about sales, which is around 9:20. It seems fishy to me. He refers to a Sony financial report in which Sony announced 65 m PS5 consoles sold, and he then compares that to Xbox's 29.7 m.. Then, in the very next sentence, he says, "To break that down, for every one Xbox Series S/X console bought, 5 Playstation 5 consoles are also purchased."

Um, that doesn't follow at all. The data he just gave paints a 2 to 1 ratio. Yet he makes it sound ("to break that down"...) as if the 5 to 1 is just further elaboration on what he has just said - when actually it's contradictory.

I wonder where he's getting that 5 to 1 ratio from. He does not say (maybe he mentioned it in another part of the video I didn't watch). The context he sandwiches it in between contradicts it. Any 5 to 1 ratio would refer to current sales ratio, not overall sales ratio. You can't conflate the two. Confusing.
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2024 sales.
PS5 is at 75M, they are using numbers from September.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
Phil has had a lot of plans over the years

They've all pretty much universally failed.

Result? Phil got promoted to CEO of Microsoft Gaming. The only thing this guy has been good at is convincing his boss to hand out the piggybank checkbook.
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That checkbook is now zipped up, and Microsoft executives want a return on investment.

Sony may have problems, but, unlike Microsoft, failure is at least not tolerated. A person like Phil Spencer would have been shown out the door years ago if he were at Sony, and the idea of AAA games Day 1 on a Netflix-like streaming service would ensure that PlayStation games that are high quality will be essentially dead.
 
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Humdinger said:
People are saying we already knew this, but I didn't - or at least, I didn't realize the ratio was 5 to 1. That's assuming IGN is playing fair with the numbers (I didn't watch the video).

edit: I skimmed to the part where they talked about sales, which is around 9:20. It seems fishy to me. He refers to a Sony financial report in which Sony announced 65 m PS5 consoles sold, and he then compares that to Xbox's 29.7 m.. Then, in the very next sentence, he says, "To break that down, for every one Xbox Series S/X console bought, 5 Playstation 5 consoles are also purchased."

Um, that doesn't follow at all. The data he just gave paints a 2 to 1 ratio. Yet he makes it sound ("to break that down"...) as if the 5 to 1 is just further elaboration on what he has just said - when actually it's contradictory.

I wonder where he's getting that 5 to 1 ratio from. He does not say (maybe he mentioned it in another part of the video I didn't watch). The context he sandwiches it in between contradicts it. Any 5 to 1 ratio would refer to current sales ratio, not overall sales ratio. You can't conflate the two. Confusing.
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He's talking about HW console sales for 2024 only.
 
mckmas8808 said:
He's talking about HW console sales for 2024 only.
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Ok. I was confused because the portion I listened to talked about total cumulative sale numbers (65m vs 30m) - not 2024, but the entire generation - then referred to a 5:1 ratio in the next sentence, as if one followed the other when the 5 to 1 seemed like a non-sequitor.

I hadn't watched the whole video, though, just that clip (I'm averse to watching IGN videos). I went back and watched the rest. I see he got the 5:1 from the Statista report, which put Xbox sales at 2.5m for 2024. Ok, gotcha.
 
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Funny that IGN has been the one of the few outlets that has clinged to the console war narrative this gen when most others don't even bother talking about it.
 
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Syphon Filter said:
both xbox and ps5 are trash, woke companies and no games after 4 years in.
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They turned fallout and Skyrim likeness into wide range of colors environment, they don't understand tastes, there is clearly something wrong in the job industry, not just in gaming.
 
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damidu said:
career moment for phil, sure. but not enough.
onto the next train wreck with that moron in control
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Yes Phil is an absolute idiot who has driven the brand into the ground. Worse than Mattrick in every way. The fact he hasn't been sacked shows Nutella doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground as well.
 
TexMex said:
Agreed. I feel like we get this thread every week. We know already holy shit.
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It's just the constant sony fan circle jerking. It's unfortunate, because losing a competitor in the industry is going to be absolutely terrible for the consumer. Example: look at Nvidia now with AMD.
 
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