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IGN's Top 100 RPGs of All Time

Neekaw

Member
I bet none of the people who made that list played Everquest seriously when it was in its prime.

Waaaay too low for such a genre-defining game.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
(assuming they don't consider Souls games JRPGs):

1. Baldur's Gate 2
2. Morrowind
3. FF7
4. Persona 4
5. New Vegas
6. Planescape Torment
7. Chrono Trigger
8. Witcher 3
9. FF3/6 (the one with Kefka)
10. Fallout 2

If this isn't their top 10 list it's wrong. If they include Souls games, it's Dark Souls on #1 and Bloodborne on #4.


New Vegas and no Fallout 3/4? Ludicrous.
 

marmoka

Banned
Persona 5 worse than P3? I don't believe it.

Nocturne and SMT IV haven't appeared yet, I hope they are close to the Top 10.
 

lawtowler

Member
So dumb, Final Fantasy VII not in the top 50 RPG's of all time? Do me a favour!

Persona 5 as low as that, pah! I can't wait to see what tripe they put in the top 40.

Glad Grandia II & Skies of Arcadia made the list, although - again, too low.
 
85 - Chrono Cross
48 - Dragon Age: Origins

Yeah I'm gonna stop reading this list now. I will be back for top 10 though because I fully expect it to be a shitshow with how this portion of the list looks.
 
SMTIV is my favourite game in the series. Best OST for sure. But no other game evoked the same level of feeling in terms of exploring Tokyo.

Nocturne would be superior though if it wasn't held back by some of the less than polished aspect that have been improved on in future games. SMTIV is extremely polished.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I liked SMT4 but holy crap the characters are seriously terrible. You might as well control a party of cardboard cutouts.

The only thing i remembered about them was that the girl liked manga.
 
I liked SMT4 but holy crap the characters are seriously terrible. You might as well control a party of cardboard cutouts.

The only thing i remembered about them was that the girl liked manga.

I mean it's a mainline SMT game. Characters are basically symbols of ideology. Devil Survivor is the only time they've actually tried making them seem human. I like the abstractness of the characters because I think it fits in a world of demons and mythology but I can see how they are not to the taste of everyone though.
 

Terrorblot

Member
Okay, I'll play. The games shuffle around in rank a lot depending on my mood that day, but these are all locked down top 20 and are what I'd currently consider my top 10:

10 - World of Warcraft
9 - Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
8 - Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn / Heavensward
7 - Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
6 - Persona 3
5 - Final Fantasy VII
4 - Mother 3
3 - Mario RPG: The Legend of the Seven Stars
2 - Chrono Trigger
1 - Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
 
I liked SMT4 but holy crap the characters are seriously terrible. You might as well control a party of cardboard cutouts.

The only thing i remembered about them was that the girl liked manga.

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How could forgot our hoy boy?
 

gngf123

Member
I mean it's a mainline SMT game. Characters are basically symbols of ideology. Devil Survivor is the only time they've actually tried making them seem human. I like the abstractness of the characters because I think it fits in a world of demons and mythology but I can see how they are not to the taste of everyone though.

Despite that, I still found the characters in SMT4 to be written worse than say, those in Strange Journey. Jimenez in particular.

Then SMT4:A jumps off a cliff.
 
Despite that, I still found the characters in SMT4 to be written worse than say, those in Strange Journey.

Then SMT4:A jumps off a cliff.
Love Jimenez! And even Zelenin. The main cast in SJ is pretty strong. But SJ has like 3 or so characters. SMTIV has a much more diverse overall cast that makes up for the somewhat lacking main cast, so I think that made up for it a bit. Nozomi >>

Apocalypse is pretty terrible with that and I def hope is not an indication of how characters will be handled in the future. SMT does not need to be like Persona ffs.

http://i.imgur.com/Zj7CIkU.png

How could forgot our hoy boy?

Based Walter.

Jonathan sucks. Isabeau is aight.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I mean it's a mainline SMT game. Characters are basically symbols of ideology. Devil Survivor is the only time they've actually tried making them seem human. I like the abstractness of the characters because I think it fits in a world of demons and mythology but I can see how they are not to the taste of everyone though.

I understand that. I'm saying that their writing is even more flat compared to others in the series.
 
Final Fantasy VII at 52, really? IGN becoming "gaming-hipsters" too I see: If it's too popular or mainstream, then it's bad.

The impact FF7 had on the industry -not just RPGs- was immense. And yes, the game still holds up and is the best FF ever made (I love you 6 and 9, but 7 will always be that special one).
 
Final Fantasy VII at 52, really? IGN becoming "gaming-hipsters" too I see: If it's too popular or mainstream, then it's bad.

The impact FF7 had on the industry -not just RPGs- was immense. And yes, the game still holds up and is the best FF ever made (I love you 6 and 9, but 7 will always be that special one).

I don't think it's that simple. Watch Skyrim, the very definition of mainstream RPG, be in the top ten.
 
FFVII at #52?

That's like putting Super Mario 64 at #52 in a top 100 best platformers

Yep, for such an influential game it's far too low. As much as I love FF6, it didn't have the industry-wide impact 7 did. And if industry impact isn't a factor in this list... then why haven't WoW and Skyrim popped up yet?

I'm fine with WoW and Skyrim being in the top 10 of anyone's list, but it's weird if FF7 isn't somewhere close by too.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Personally happy that FF7 isnt that high on the list. Good game but quite overrated.
 

Galang

Banned
Lmfao. Not only did they include Persona 3, but they ranked it above 5. I like this list IGN.. and take I back what I said. In the perfect world it would be above 4 as well, but I'll take it. Also not putting FFVII in the top 50, I approve. Hopefully either V, VI or IX make the top 10
 
Persona 3 higher than Persona 5..... They really love their Tartarus, huh.

I'm fine with FF VII being out of the top half in theory. But beat by a Tales game? Yeeesh.

You saw FF VII at #52 and you thought the rest on the list must be amazing and then you saw Tales of Symphonia....
 

FinalAres

Member
Personally happy that FF7 isnt that high on the list. Good game but quite overrated.

See this is the attitude that the guys writing the list clearly had.

I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, for a long time the game was considered one of the, if not the best game ever. It was hotly contested between that and Ocarina. In popular polls its often still up there. The idea that it has aged that badly is crazy as the core gameplay is still solid, its just the graphics that look poor.

Again I'm not saying that's right, but for it to shift so far down is clearly the view of someone who thinks the game is overrated and wants everyone to know it.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I mean it's their list. If it's meant to be a popularity contest they should have just made public polls.
 
I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, for a long time the game was considered one of the, if not the best game ever. It was hotly contested between that and Ocarina. In popular polls its often still up there. The idea that it has aged that badly is crazy as the core gameplay is still solid, its just the graphics that look poor.

Again I'm not saying that's right, but for it to shift so far down is clearly the view of someone who thinks the game is overrated and wants everyone to know it.
Nostalgia is a powerful thing and 7 is old enough for a newer generation to see it without being blinded by it. It's just not that great of a game, i.e. the materia system makes all the character really samey, the game loves shoving really bad minigames at you way too much, etc.
 

Lothar

Banned
The first Nier? This isn't Neogaf's top 100 misunderstood darlings

Chrono Cross and Xenoblade are on the list, so Nier has to be. It would just be a joke to say a RPG with a mess of a story like Chrono Cross would be better than any RPG with a good story. Let alone one that had a amazing story.

Nier had more going for it than music and looking pretty.
 
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