gregor7777
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funkmastergeneral said:
WinFonda said:
Is the start of the game truly this bad or are these just typical GAF responses? I can't imagine judging an RPG in 40 minutes.
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Is the start of the game truly this bad or are these just typical GAF responses? I can't imagine judging an RPG in 40 minutes.
^ Eugh, I'm so tired of waiting for the guide to come in stock!
I need to read up on these achievements!!
I went back to a previous save point instead of going to cassandra castle.
I decided to delay going there, I found a really good spot to get money.
If you go out of Port Zala, and to the mines, you will come across a Mimic monster in the first room. If you keep killing that and the enemies, takes about... a minute to get there and back out? You have at least 8000 fol. So I keep doing that 'til I have a few thousand, then go back to Fayel and upgrade my equipment. Although I had a wander over to Burgess (have to use the Ninja aristo and the bear... *cannot remember anyones names!!* to avoid that fucking rain), and they have even BETTER weapons.
I need to read up on these achievements!!
I went back to a previous save point instead of going to cassandra castle.
I decided to delay going there, I found a really good spot to get money.
If you go out of Port Zala, and to the mines, you will come across a Mimic monster in the first room. If you keep killing that and the enemies, takes about... a minute to get there and back out? You have at least 8000 fol. So I keep doing that 'til I have a few thousand, then go back to Fayel and upgrade my equipment. Although I had a wander over to Burgess (have to use the Ninja aristo and the bear... *cannot remember anyones names!!* to avoid that fucking rain), and they have even BETTER weapons.
gregor7777 said:
I've put about 6 hours into the game now, so let me qualify my initial impressions: Yeah this game gives a terrible first impression, and yeah it does get better, but not a whole lot. First of all, a lot of the major issues I had during my initial time with the game still exist. When you fight your very first battle in this game do you want to know what the first thing you'll notice is? The incredibly choppy framerate. Look, I normally don't care a whole lot about framerate (30, 60 -- whatever) but it's really, really jarring in this game. This problem never goes away, you simply start to get used to it over time, but that doesn't make it any less of an issue.
Now one thing that has gotten better are the empty and voiceless cutscenes. Nearly all of them as of late have been fully voiced. However, the lip sync is still just as bad as ever, and I think that makes some cutscenes especially awkward. I can easily forgive this, but it tells me this game lacked polish. Lots of it.
But back to the meat of the game. The world here barely feels inhabited. There really isn't much to do. And the game does a poor job at directing you towards the next big thing. The games combat consists of two buttons, they give you a block or guard button but it's impossible (and kinda pointless) to use. They also try to freshen things up by giving you quasi-control of another single party member. This is mostly important for the game's somewhat limited environmental interaction. Now another compliment I'll give the game is its party system. It's pretty awesome having up to 12 friendlies on screen -- even if it does marginalize the players role somewhat.
What appeals to me about IU is that it's an action RPG, it's open environment, and it doesn't have random battles. I love that. I loved Final Fantasy XII for that. But all that said, IU is a game that lacks the labor of love that turned FFXII's decent game mechanics and okay narrative into a really fun (and unique) game experience. You can tell. Play the game yourself if you're really curious.
robot
Member
Neil said:
Even quicker way to get money (thanks to someone on my friends list that I think posts here)
Make horseshoes in Port Zala and resell them. They cost I think 550 to make and sell for 2500. I was making 100,000 profit in 5 minute intervals. I'm pretty sure you can't do it once you board the boat though, the girl that sells them might leave. Or if it's too late for that you can make Smiley Charms in an earlier town...cost 300 to make and sell for 1500 apiece iirc. Nets out to like 50,000 every few mintes. Forgot the name of the town, I'll check when I get home.
gregor7777
Banned
WinFonda said:
I will, but I need to finish ToV first and that's going to take me a while.
Philthy
Member
Frillen said:
Can I swap characters at my last save point? I thought once you set up the three groups that was all you got. I'm not going to redo the entire tower again because I thought it was rather boring to be honest. The main problem I am having is that both Eugene and Michelle die instantly. You would think with two healers they would find a way to keep everyone alive, but the fact is, they go down really fast. I was hoping Sigmund would help out, but he's too busy elsewhere so, it's really just Capell and two healers vs a bunch of mobs that constantly stun you. Which also means I can't be healed easily, nor can I toss miraculous potions around. It kind of sucks, so thats why I'm a bit stuck at this part.
Now that I'm done with Tales of the Abyss (and ab it too franchise fatigued to start up Vesperia right away), I think the time is right for IU.
Anything I should keep an eye out for, such as missables, secrets, or whatever? Or is it not really that kind of game?
Anything I should keep an eye out for, such as missables, secrets, or whatever? Or is it not really that kind of game?
MirageDwarf
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Somebody please tell me. I'm at castle valette boss fight. How far am I in the game? How much more left in the story?
Mejilan said:Wow, 2 hours in, and... (I really can't believe I'm saying this about a Tri Ace game, but...) I'm REALLY not feeling this game.
I'm going to give it another try after beating ToV, but... I think this one goes under the "failure" catagory, sadly.
The main thing that killed me was that it was so damned empty. Too much open space.
DDs (short for Deflect Drive) are not really pointless. A successful chain of DDs is the only way to be able to launch a boss (or big enemies) into the air.
Useless when it comes to dealing with a mob of enemies, sure. But on one-on-one fights, it's a really valuable tool. It requires timing/reflex and memorization of enemies patterns. I was able to launch the boss in Sapran by pulling off a couple of DDs, and he wasn't able to hit me at all.
DD is a typical tri-Ace mechanic that takes time to learn to use and exploit. The battle engine has problems but the DD mechanic is not one of them. the fact that bosses are affected by it, makes it a valuable tool in fights. My problem with the battle engine lies in the useless battle skills, and lack of good ground combo oriented move for Capell. In SO3 almost every skill was useful in one way or the other, same for VP2. Each battle skill in those game had their own characteristics that made useful, in IU that's not the case. The actual skill balance is terrible in IU. The battle skill balance remind me of a Tales game, you just get skills that do more hits and/or are more powerful. The only skill totally different from the rest is Symphonic Blade and even then, the fact that you HAVE to connect to a teammate makes it a fucking hassle to use in combat.
Another thing I totally dislike is the lack of tweaking or customization for your characters, I don't count Enchanting as customization since it's just a temporary measure and you also need materials, which are a fucking pain to get. SO3/VP2 had a shitload of customization, and it was fun tweaking characters in very different ways. IU had none of that.
Useless when it comes to dealing with a mob of enemies, sure. But on one-on-one fights, it's a really valuable tool. It requires timing/reflex and memorization of enemies patterns. I was able to launch the boss in Sapran by pulling off a couple of DDs, and he wasn't able to hit me at all.
DD is a typical tri-Ace mechanic that takes time to learn to use and exploit. The battle engine has problems but the DD mechanic is not one of them. the fact that bosses are affected by it, makes it a valuable tool in fights. My problem with the battle engine lies in the useless battle skills, and lack of good ground combo oriented move for Capell. In SO3 almost every skill was useful in one way or the other, same for VP2. Each battle skill in those game had their own characteristics that made useful, in IU that's not the case. The actual skill balance is terrible in IU. The battle skill balance remind me of a Tales game, you just get skills that do more hits and/or are more powerful. The only skill totally different from the rest is Symphonic Blade and even then, the fact that you HAVE to connect to a teammate makes it a fucking hassle to use in combat.
Another thing I totally dislike is the lack of tweaking or customization for your characters, I don't count Enchanting as customization since it's just a temporary measure and you also need materials, which are a fucking pain to get. SO3/VP2 had a shitload of customization, and it was fun tweaking characters in very different ways. IU had none of that.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
Having a wee bit of trouble early on. after beating the first dungeon and now I need to bring the girl (aya i think?) and the two kids to some castle with Sigmund in it, problem is I don't know how. I just went through the forest and got to the end with nowhere to go.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
Error said:
wow how did I miss this?? o.o thanks dude
Ugh, this game can eat a bag of dicks. I never realized this, but other parties can't or won't interact with your party at all.
I had a boss that kept paralyzing and paralyzing and paralyzing my party... naturally, enchants that block ailments seem to be totally useless (is this a bug?) so I was just stuck standing there. The other party (the two brats and the bear) were fine, but they wouldn't heal or revive anybody. It was "Game Over" because everybody in my party passed out, even though the other party was fine.
That is just dumb as hell. I love getting "Game Over" for no good reason while the save point was like a half hour of gameplay in the past. To get really nitpicky here, the Game Over screen takes forever to fade out (to add insult to injury?) and you can't use the analog stick to browse the menu (definitely a bug, it works at save points).
I had a boss that kept paralyzing and paralyzing and paralyzing my party... naturally, enchants that block ailments seem to be totally useless (is this a bug?) so I was just stuck standing there. The other party (the two brats and the bear) were fine, but they wouldn't heal or revive anybody. It was "Game Over" because everybody in my party passed out, even though the other party was fine.
That is just dumb as hell. I love getting "Game Over" for no good reason while the save point was like a half hour of gameplay in the past. To get really nitpicky here, the Game Over screen takes forever to fade out (to add insult to injury?) and you can't use the analog stick to browse the menu (definitely a bug, it works at save points).
rollingstart
Banned
Y2Kev said:
And Capell is a pedo.
Case said:
May as well rent it. It may be a love it or hate it thing, because it's my favorite next-gen game as of right now, and the most fun I've had with an RPG in a couple of years. Sure, it has faults, but I didn't even think of them or notice most of them until after I beat the game (and frankly, the saves didn't bother me as I only got game overs twice, both on a boss right after a save point).
And the enchants thing... sounds like you're using them wrong or it's a bug on your side, takotchi, as mine were able to prevent paralyzation.
Meh, they just never work for me. I tried enchants to stop the confusion from the 'shrooms in Dais, and that didn't work. Tried the one for paralyzation for
and that didn't work either. I know they time out, but that's definitely not the problem.
I guess I'll try accessories. I think either the Faina doll or Leif doll has anti-paralyze...
Saranda
I guess I'll try accessories. I think either the Faina doll or Leif doll has anti-paralyze...
Keikoku said:
No need to be a smart-ass. Just my opinion of the game a couple hours in. If it gets better, then thank the gaming gods. However so far (and I'm apparently not alone on this), it feels utterly generic. The two-button combat system is also pretty boring as well, which is a shame since I love the real-time encounters and setup.
The other games I mentioned started a bit better than this one, but were overall still a letdown. I've been playing rpgs (both eastern and western developed) for 20 years now; so fancy gfx doesn't equate to an automatic pass.
I think it's pretty embarrasing that the other rpg I'm in the middle of playing (DQIV) is over ten years old and has more personality than this game so far. More so that this is supposed to be a Tri-Ace title :/
If all you did was run through without fighting and skipped the cutscenes, sure 5 minutes tops.
Whew, finally beat it. I know I spent a dozen hours hitting X while watching TV pounding away at horseshoes and crappy children novels and pseudo science self-help books.
The game was quite entertaining, and feels like a MMO crossed with an action game. I am not sure I want Tri-Ace to go on with this engine though cause it needs major work. The production values goes from decent to shitsville relatively fast, light sources leak all over the place, characters spinning around trying to path through a door, enemies on ledges I can't reach casting on me, horribly textured hallways... and the list goes on.
But it is still fun. DDs, aeriel combos, trying to crowd control made it one of my favorites. Outside of having to use mana pots in a real time menu I wouldn't change much. Connect skills were interesting, but I didn't use it much. I so wish Tir na Nog would come out without me connected 24x7 cause Rucha won't cast shit otherwise.
Crafting was interesting until the end, it was a huge time drain trying to make high end stuff and the constant failure just pissed me off.
In conclusion, everyone needs to play this so Tri-Ace can have money to hire real voice actors next time. <deep voice>DIMINUENDO DRIVE</deep voice>
The game was quite entertaining, and feels like a MMO crossed with an action game. I am not sure I want Tri-Ace to go on with this engine though cause it needs major work. The production values goes from decent to shitsville relatively fast, light sources leak all over the place, characters spinning around trying to path through a door, enemies on ledges I can't reach casting on me, horribly textured hallways... and the list goes on.
But it is still fun. DDs, aeriel combos, trying to crowd control made it one of my favorites. Outside of having to use mana pots in a real time menu I wouldn't change much. Connect skills were interesting, but I didn't use it much. I so wish Tir na Nog would come out without me connected 24x7 cause Rucha won't cast shit otherwise.
Crafting was interesting until the end, it was a huge time drain trying to make high end stuff and the constant failure just pissed me off.
In conclusion, everyone needs to play this so Tri-Ace can have money to hire real voice actors next time. <deep voice>DIMINUENDO DRIVE</deep voice>
Android18a
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Yasser said:any tips for thefight? most times my party just dies to one of his aoe attacks at the startvermified held
This is where i died most, thanks to the wide-wide AoE attack. Set your party to Spread, and keep your distance. Aya is useful, since she can stay out of the AoE range and still hit. If you see the white spheres appear, RUN. Forget hitting him, just run.
Ugh,still can't beat that Spider in Dais...and since i can't change party members in there(why? you have 15 members or so but i have to trek all the way back to Kolton to change party)...time to grind a few levels till everyone is 35 or so i guess...i'm also stuck on a Boss in Tales of Vesperia for now hehe...
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
I've beaten SG a couple of times now and I'm currently at level 206 with most of the best gear and weapons in the game.
Tip for those struggling:
Forget about using enchanters. Stick with a party of hard hitter, buy as many potions as you can afford, turn off all the items except those you want used and you should be golden. Healing spells take too long to cast. Also, create a whole bunch of accessories that have health/magic regeneration.
You'll soon be unstoppable.
Tip for those struggling:
Forget about using enchanters. Stick with a party of hard hitter, buy as many potions as you can afford, turn off all the items except those you want used and you should be golden. Healing spells take too long to cast. Also, create a whole bunch of accessories that have health/magic regeneration.
You'll soon be unstoppable.
Blackjack said:
:lol
Oh man, I'm definitely playing a different game.
Anyway, the game is getting a little better and has now gone from "crap" to "mediocre". It's the characters and story, nothing charming or engaging; which is a shame. The framework for the gameplay is something I'd like to see used more often (as well as allowing for more hands-on with party members during battle). So far, FFXII's gambit system and ability to choose who to control at any given time is the best example of similar system.
Btw anyone that wants quick money, get the 'gold x3/No exp' enchantment and near Nolaan in Luce Plains there's a mimic or crab chest whatever, should net you 12k a kill.
I'm not sure how stacking works when it comes to enchantments, though.
edit: got confused!
edit 2: Seems putting more than one gold +30% enchantment doesn't stack. Only one party member needs to have it. Seems to be a group effect enchant.
edit 3: group effect my ass, the way the gold enchantment works... means the character with the enchantment NEEDS to kill the enemy, otherwise it wouldn't matter if you have the enchantment on.
I'm not sure how stacking works when it comes to enchantments, though.
edit: got confused!
edit 2: Seems putting more than one gold +30% enchantment doesn't stack. Only one party member needs to have it. Seems to be a group effect enchant.
edit 3: group effect my ass, the way the gold enchantment works... means the character with the enchantment NEEDS to kill the enemy, otherwise it wouldn't matter if you have the enchantment on.
Bahhh I'm at the
AND I CAN'T MAKE MY WAY OUT THE PORTALS ARE SO CONFUSING EASHGRFWOEUYGR@#(*&Y&R*($@#R
Please help, fellow IU gaffers!
I beat the boss there, I just need to
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Cobansa Timberlands
Please help, fellow IU gaffers!
I beat the boss there, I just need to
find that dude so I can save that hardass Edward, even though he sucks, and I hate him.
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