MonkeyLicker
Art does not make 60FPS @ 1080i with real world physics on the PSf*ckin2.
shpankey said:
It's actually considered a good thing by casual gamers.
More discs= more game to them.
Insomniac Chief Creative Officer Brian Hastings speaks out on the PS3
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It's actually considered a good thing by casual gamers.
More discs= more game to them.
When people say that "this bluray movie thing means nothing to me", I can't help but want to ask them "Are you saying you never watch/rent/buy movies?".
If you ever plan on owning an HDTV, and you enjoy buying/renting movies, I would think having a bluray DVD player included in your game system purchase would be a pretty cool extra feature.
I know for me it certainly played a part in my purchase of a PS3. I would not own one right now if it weren't for the fact that it could play high def movies right now. I no longer have to even think about going out and buying a high def movie player, I just got one included when I bought my PS3. Thats is pretty cool IMO.
If you ever plan on owning an HDTV, and you enjoy buying/renting movies, I would think having a bluray DVD player included in your game system purchase would be a pretty cool extra feature.
I know for me it certainly played a part in my purchase of a PS3. I would not own one right now if it weren't for the fact that it could play high def movies right now. I no longer have to even think about going out and buying a high def movie player, I just got one included when I bought my PS3. Thats is pretty cool IMO.
Corwood Rep
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Insomniac is a great developer, but really, the guy didn't have much new to say. Does name recognition really elevate the status of his opinion? These are pretty much all the standard talking points.
Haunted
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:lol post of the thread.beermonkey@tehbias said:
It's a free country, and everyone is allowed to speak their mind publicly. Having said that, I disagree on most points with the guy and it's pretty clear that while he stresses Insomniac's 100% 'independent', they won't stop making Sony exclusives, regardless how the market will look like in the future. (Sony's marketshare dropping from over 70% to ... a number significantly below that.
)Exactly my thoughts.Aristotlekh said:
seattle6418 said:
That's like saying President Bush is always right because he runs the United States of America and nobody should question him because he is at the top of the totem pole in politics.
Yeahh sure.
EDIT: About movies it gets annoying when videogame developers are bringing this up when it has ZERO to do with their industry.
plagiarize
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me either. but certain games can't be set up that way. anything open ended. anything like a racing game or an online game with levels/tracks that aren't played in any sort of order.shpankey said:
Bluemercury
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Just checked their games............Yep, its a Sony company....
JoshuaJSlone
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The price situation between DS and PSP hasn't changed much in 2+ years, and touch-screen heavy games like Brain Age and Nintendogs are still huge.Ranger X said:
momolicious
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standard HDD and blue ray is the biggest thing on that list
Shawnwhann
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A very nice read.
I have to agree with him on most of his points. The 50 x 5 bit is a little sensationalized as there are ways to get 12 month cards for 30-35, but I agree that paying for online gameplay now is crap. I play in the GAF sports leagues frequently on the 360, and it sucks that I have lag when I have an above average broadband cable connection. After playing Resistance, Fight Night, and Calling All Cars(focus tested) online so smoothly I refuse to pay for another Live subscription that doesnt have dedicated servers or something extra that would justify the costs.
I somewhat agree on the Wii fad. My parents played Wii when they visited me, and they loved it!! They went and bought one for themselves, and they are already asking what game should they get next that is as easy as Wii Sports. The closest thing to it is Wii Play or Wario Ware and both are halfhearted reccomendations at best for my 56 year old parents. Bottom line is that if Nintendo is going to market this thing to older folks, they better have a whole slew of easy to play and pick up pieces of software to justify the cost of entry for the Wii.
As a Wii owner, I have not loaded up the thing in weeks. After I beat Zelda and played the Wii Sports ad nasuem, there is no reason to load it up right now. I can play old roms on my PC if I felt inclined, so I am not supporting a rom dumping operation. Call me a graphic whore if you want, but the graphics leave much to be desired after playing things like VF5 and Gears of War. Add in the lack of online gameplay(which is what I play almost exclusively) I'm seriously considering selling the system or giving it to my grilfriend because a the lack of compelling software. New exciting non-gimmicky ways of playing games would nullify the reality of last gen graphics and little media function capability, but so far it's been a dissapointment. I sold my DS once though, and I really regret it as things like EBA and Hotel Dusk came around.
We'll see though as what is currently happening in the market is something nobody could have reasonably projected.
I have to agree with him on most of his points. The 50 x 5 bit is a little sensationalized as there are ways to get 12 month cards for 30-35, but I agree that paying for online gameplay now is crap. I play in the GAF sports leagues frequently on the 360, and it sucks that I have lag when I have an above average broadband cable connection. After playing Resistance, Fight Night, and Calling All Cars(focus tested) online so smoothly I refuse to pay for another Live subscription that doesnt have dedicated servers or something extra that would justify the costs.
I somewhat agree on the Wii fad. My parents played Wii when they visited me, and they loved it!! They went and bought one for themselves, and they are already asking what game should they get next that is as easy as Wii Sports. The closest thing to it is Wii Play or Wario Ware and both are halfhearted reccomendations at best for my 56 year old parents. Bottom line is that if Nintendo is going to market this thing to older folks, they better have a whole slew of easy to play and pick up pieces of software to justify the cost of entry for the Wii.
As a Wii owner, I have not loaded up the thing in weeks. After I beat Zelda and played the Wii Sports ad nasuem, there is no reason to load it up right now. I can play old roms on my PC if I felt inclined, so I am not supporting a rom dumping operation. Call me a graphic whore if you want, but the graphics leave much to be desired after playing things like VF5 and Gears of War. Add in the lack of online gameplay(which is what I play almost exclusively) I'm seriously considering selling the system or giving it to my grilfriend because a the lack of compelling software. New exciting non-gimmicky ways of playing games would nullify the reality of last gen graphics and little media function capability, but so far it's been a dissapointment. I sold my DS once though, and I really regret it as things like EBA and Hotel Dusk came around.
We'll see though as what is currently happening in the market is something nobody could have reasonably projected.
Eteric Rice
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Haunted_One said::lol post of the thread.
It's a free country, and everyone is allowed to speak their mind publicly. Having said that, I disagree on most points with the guy and it's pretty clear that while he stresses Insomniac's 100% 'independent', they won't stop making Sony exclusives, regardless how the market will look like in the future. (Sony's marketshare dropping from over 70% to ... a number significantly below that.
Exactly my thoughts.
It's like asking Retro Studios what they think of the Wii.
seattle6418
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Smokey Bones said:
maybe, but not what i meant. we do know that a lot of internet wizards are just full of s*** and trying to defend their beloved company. i was refering to them.
MonkeyLicker
Art does not make 60FPS @ 1080i with real world physics on the PSf*ckin2.
Only problem is Gears is the perfect example of a game that could easily be spread out over multiple discs.
Ragnarok10
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Eteric Rice said:
Might be a problem if you didn't have the strongest 1st party development infrastructure ever assembled. Not to mention maintaining the most elite 3rd party software (MGS, FF).
JoshuaJSlone said:
What are you getting at? Seriously i don't get ya.
Even if the touchscreen is now banalised games that use it will continue to sell. Those games are selling because there's alot of people with DSs and the game is good. Same logic will probably apply with the Wii.
The prices situation between PSP/DS didn't change much just like the price situation with Wii / 360 / PS3 won't change much. And when it will change, the Wii can drop and keep its price advantage.
Eteric Rice
Member
Ragnarok10 said:
And Nintendo has some of the best selling first party franchises ever. Your point?
I don't honestly care what he thinks, even if I agree with a lot of his points. Then again, I'm a guy with a HDTV, and I want games to look ****awesome and play better than they look. So, obviously my opinions sway over to the PS360 side of things.
As long as Insomniac continues to put out quality games like Resistance and Ratchet and Clank, he can say w/e the **** he wants and I'll nod and smile while I play the game.
As long as Insomniac continues to put out quality games like Resistance and Ratchet and Clank, he can say w/e the **** he wants and I'll nod and smile while I play the game.
squatingyeti
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Ranger X said:
You share the "to the developer, an optional HDD is the same as no HDD." because you are clueless and some people SPIN. That's complete and utter boosheet. ALL games can take advantage of the presence of the HDD in the 360. It takes a SIMPLE effort of an *IF, THEN* coding. Games are being developed WITH the HDD being used, and adjusted to function WITHOUT it. If you don't understand that, don't bother to even post.
plagiarize
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if something is standard, a developer is much more likely to support it. end of story.squatingyeti said:
besada said:
Yeah I mean, what was he thinking...?
http://photos.digitalrave.net/images/9685software.png
I own every system and I completely agree with the idea that the rabid interest in the Wii will fade and fairly quickly.
I stood in the pre-sale line to get my Wii at TRS and then stood in line again at Walmart the Saturday night before launch because I couldn't wait the extra 12 hours to get my guaranteed pre-order (Walmart sold out before I got one...) My point is that I was pretty crazy for it. I bought extra controllers so I could play four-player. I played the hell out of Wii Sports, Zelda and Elebits through December. Bought a couple VC games. Picked up Trauma Center and Wario Ware, which got less play in January. Now the system just sits there collecting dust, less than 6 months after purchase, waiting for the next 1st party title to come along. 3rd party games, unless they are specifically made for the Wii like Elebits or Trauma Center, are just much better on the other systems.
I don't regret the purchase at all and like I said, I'm very excited about the 1st party stuff coming for it. But I wonder how many of you saying the interest won't go away are just trying to defend it rather than being completely honest with yourself and everyone else. Seriously, what harm is there in saying, "Yeah I dig it but it is kind of a fad."
And I personally don't believe you can compare it to the DS because I believe people expect a completely different experience from a handheld than they do from a console and the DS offers that. Quick pick-up-and-play gameplay for car rides, hotel stays, lying in bed before going to sleep and trips to the john (admit it, you take it with you to the toilet.)
I stood in the pre-sale line to get my Wii at TRS and then stood in line again at Walmart the Saturday night before launch because I couldn't wait the extra 12 hours to get my guaranteed pre-order (Walmart sold out before I got one...) My point is that I was pretty crazy for it. I bought extra controllers so I could play four-player. I played the hell out of Wii Sports, Zelda and Elebits through December. Bought a couple VC games. Picked up Trauma Center and Wario Ware, which got less play in January. Now the system just sits there collecting dust, less than 6 months after purchase, waiting for the next 1st party title to come along. 3rd party games, unless they are specifically made for the Wii like Elebits or Trauma Center, are just much better on the other systems.
I don't regret the purchase at all and like I said, I'm very excited about the 1st party stuff coming for it. But I wonder how many of you saying the interest won't go away are just trying to defend it rather than being completely honest with yourself and everyone else. Seriously, what harm is there in saying, "Yeah I dig it but it is kind of a fad."
And I personally don't believe you can compare it to the DS because I believe people expect a completely different experience from a handheld than they do from a console and the DS offers that. Quick pick-up-and-play gameplay for car rides, hotel stays, lying in bed before going to sleep and trips to the john (admit it, you take it with you to the toilet.)
You can smell the Wii fear!:lol
Not aimed at you Swan Song btw...
But with regard to what you've said...if you expected the Wii to keep you entertained for more then 6 months with launch/launch window software then your utterly silly...when all console's struggle during this period because of lack of good software releases. Your very naive. As you said you owned all the console but yet you haven't realized that the initial software is always most of the time just filler...for the good stuff to come.
Not aimed at you Swan Song btw...
But with regard to what you've said...if you expected the Wii to keep you entertained for more then 6 months with launch/launch window software then your utterly silly...when all console's struggle during this period because of lack of good software releases. Your very naive. As you said you owned all the console but yet you haven't realized that the initial software is always most of the time just filler...for the good stuff to come.
Eteric Rice
Member
It amazes me that the Wii has only been out for like four months, yet they expect a library like the 360's out of it.
What the hell, people?
What the hell, people?
plagiarize
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when that happened to other consoles we just called it a post launch drought. no evidence what's happening to the wii is anything other than that.Swan Song said:
jstevenson said:
FYI - community pages are always more welcoming if you don't have to register an account before you can even take a look.
With the number of forums and blogs that people on the net these days get linked off to hourly, it just becomes too much of a hassle to juggle out a seperate tab for their web-based email to confirm the link that showed up fifteen minutes late and tripped off their spam-filter after retyping in stupid little numbers written in crazy, mismatched font and crossed out-text followed by a series of pointless questions regarding both their time zone and shoe size, simply to find out that they weren't even interested in what the link lead to in the first place. Of course, that won't stop them from winding up getting email updates from twenty two random pages they visited for just such a register-required link three years ago to notify them that a forum they don't even read will be down for maintenance on the fourteenth and they have a new PM from "katie86" entitled "discount meds from across the border! L@@K!"
I do understand it when it comes from more private communities that aren't too keen on "outsiders" peering into their world to begin with, or non-commercial sites that attempt to conserve bandwidth through pushing traffic away, but for a company like Insomniac, who's pages can largely be seen as promotional in nature anyways, this "sealed off" community idea just doesn't seem very productive.
Just my two cents.
Kaitei grunkan
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MiamiWesker
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A good read, some of the stuff had to be said, especially about the negative spin on home and such. Some of his points were good, others a bit out there. It was a slated view but he did make some valid points.