Acquiescence
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Ken doesn't know karate, but he does know krazy, and he will use it.
Interview with former Sony executives: Why the Nintendo PlayStation never happened.
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Sony made the Sega CD attachment as well. Sony was basically using other companies hardware as field testing.
Jarod McChicken
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It does not seems to have "new" elements since the book Revolutionaries at Sony, written in 2000 by Reiji Asakura. It's a obligatory read for those who wants to get the most detailed story about the PlayStation birth. For the french reader, the book is called La Revolution PlayStation.
Yeah cuz the PS1 did that...right?
That's a pretty amazing story. Kutaragi really is quite the character, but we already knew that
Lmao, how big of a fanboy do you have to be to have this be your impression? It's an interview. The interview didn't come from a Nintendo based website at all. Your "Nintendo based website" merely translated the aforementioned article.
I'd like to think you're trolling, but it wouldn't even be a good troll
Lmao, how big of a fanboy do you have to be to have this be your impression? It's an interview. The interview didn't come from a Nintendo based website at all. Your "Nintendo based website" merely translated the aforementioned article.
I'd like to think you're trolling, but it wouldn't even be a good troll
karaoke seems like a natural product for the playstation, consider that it is very popular in Japan and quite a few home consoles had addons for it. Then again, it could had been some of the catalyst to propel himself from sub-component engineer to complete console hardware designer
Calm Mind
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I hope you are referring to the countless shitty PC ports and $10 Toys R' Us games because frankly that is where the bulk of those games came from.
WhiskerFrisker
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Godlike first post
Absolute horseshit.
Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
What was the year that Sony hit their absolute heighest point? I'd be interesting to see if there are parallels in the design and decision making of both Sony, and perhaps Apple/Google/Microsoft.
Sony is one of the most valueable companies in the 20th century. The Playstation has been really important, but they have other creations I rank higher in importance of technology. The transistor radio is probably their most significant creation.
So not to excuse crazy Ken, but as a innovative tech giant it made sense that Sony wanted to insert its own expertise into its console. I remember it was quite a big deal that Playstation could play music CDs. We saw this line of thinking continuing with DVDs. And this was the biggest deal of all of them. DVD players were expensive, and everyone was ready to move to DVDs. PS3 with Blu-Rays, but perhaps less significant than PS2s DVD adaptation.
It's funny then that PS4 scaled back wanting to just be a games machine and Xbox One was punished for focusing too much on non-gaming tasks.
Sony is one of the most valueable companies in the 20th century. The Playstation has been really important, but they have other creations I rank higher in importance of technology. The transistor radio is probably their most significant creation.
So not to excuse crazy Ken, but as a innovative tech giant it made sense that Sony wanted to insert its own expertise into its console. I remember it was quite a big deal that Playstation could play music CDs. We saw this line of thinking continuing with DVDs. And this was the biggest deal of all of them. DVD players were expensive, and everyone was ready to move to DVDs. PS3 with Blu-Rays, but perhaps less significant than PS2s DVD adaptation.
It's funny then that PS4 scaled back wanting to just be a games machine and Xbox One was punished for focusing too much on non-gaming tasks.
fvng
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geordiemp
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Have you seen the Wii U library?
No, but if your one of the ten people that bought do tell us. LOL.
I am sure Switch will do well in Japan and to existing fans. Cant see it shaking market up at all in the west.
Back on topic, sounds like handbags at dawn, he said she said, the truth is probably a bit of everything.
HarryKS
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Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
Too far brah, too far..
Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
What world is this you live in?
Exactly.
Too bad that great exclusive library didnt translate into sales for the Wii U.
And betting on a device that hasn't even launched yet and dismissing one that just came out?
Okaaay.
That post was dead on, Nintendo doesnt need help with anyone dragging them down. They did that themselves.
Calm Mind
Member
pfft
UnemployedVillain
Member
This dude's been crazier for even longer than I thought. Absolute madman
LiquidSolid
Member
GoNintendo pushing an agenda?! Never!
What's up with the title? "Executives"? It's one executive.
Newtype-001
Member
All according to Keikaku
HandsomeCharles
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I had thought it was now fairly well known / reasonably assumed that the reason it fell apart was because Nintendo bailed on the contract after finding out that Sony had written into it that they would maintain 100% of the publishing rights to any software that was distributed on CDs, and Nintendo had not initially noticed when signing.
Nah Ken "Krazy Ken" Kutagari was pretty buckwild
Him being Krazy did help out the industry but it also led to PS3
Not really good vs. evil more just he did something that was for the benefit of the industry and then afterwards did something that wasn't really good for sony
jmon
Hale-XF11
Member
Seriously, this is Japan's own Pirates of Silicon Valley. Someone make it happen.
michaelius
Banned
Amazing how such things lead to creation of Playstation Jurgenaut
biggersmaller
Banned
Some of these 1999 troll comments...
Yeah, this.
In the West we generally consider CD-ROM addons as being horrible ideas that all failed miserably, but in Japan the PC Engine's CD-ROM expansion actually ended up being more successful than the system's HuCard ecosystem. There has been almost 10 times more CD games than HuCard games in Japan.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
This kind of infers that Ken with working on an add-on that was just minor project for Sony, that would have normally would have just gone by the wayside, especially with other potentially focuses than just games and Nintendo being wary, screwed it worse by break their contract to go Philips without really telling Sony at the last minute. So instead of actually just renegotiating a contract or just properly ending as you would think for these massive companies....but with what ever happened behind the scenes Sony didn't sue Nintendo for breaking contract.
Sony at the time was focused on all other media expect for video games, so the cancelled add-on was just a tiny blimp, but Ken didn't let it slide. He made it a bigger deal than anyone else thought it was, takes it to Sony heads, tells them they were dishonored to the point the full PlayStation project was given the go ahead, a machine focused on games creating the massive video game juggernaut Sony is now.
And this is from the guy who designed the sound chip in the SNES?
This is some crazy ass 9th dimensional chess.
Sony at the time was focused on all other media expect for video games, so the cancelled add-on was just a tiny blimp, but Ken didn't let it slide. He made it a bigger deal than anyone else thought it was, takes it to Sony heads, tells them they were dishonored to the point the full PlayStation project was given the go ahead, a machine focused on games creating the massive video game juggernaut Sony is now.
And this is from the guy who designed the sound chip in the SNES?
This is some crazy ass 9th dimensional chess.
Yup.
I get this feeling too.
Crazy timeline that happened aint it?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I though it was Wii U
Every Nintendo home console after the SNES is an overpriced disappointment if you were to ask me.
That said, I'm glad the deal fell apart or else there would have been no PS family consoles.
Yes, relying on the same IPs they've been doing for 30+ years is certainly bringing back innovation.
Tallshortman
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Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
lmao this post and avatar quote.
Spieler Eins
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Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
I've seen Skyrim late-ported to a glorified handheld, yes. Have you seen the Q1 lineup, which basically shows more variety and fresh ideas than WiiU has in 4 years? WiiU was creatively bankrupt outside of one or two titles each year and the praise it got from certain people was utterly overblown (if they keep making innovation-less 2D mascot platformers, god help us all).
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
Is this the equivalent of 'But have you seen Titanfall?!'
Nintendo diehards are funny. And this is coming from someone who owns a Wii U.
Wii U exclusives better than PS4 Library...
PS4 Pro is overpriced...
Nintendo alone is bringing back innovation... ('But have you seen PS VR?!' etc etc)
Good laughs.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Full translation by NintendoEverything:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/26844...-discusses-the-demise-of-the-snes-playstation
Read for yourself in the link
http://gonintendo.com/stories/26844...-discusses-the-demise-of-the-snes-playstation
Posting the article in full isn't usually OK, don't want to take clicks away from external sources.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Ah your right, will edit.
My god. Nintendo ....you fucked up....
That SNESPS thing might have been the start of Nintendo dominating the living room for media.
From missing out on that opportunity to seemingly being a gen behind with home consoles after the SNES..
I'm surprised Nintendo is still in the home console market. I honestly believe the Wii absolutely saved them for home consoles.
That SNESPS thing might have been the start of Nintendo dominating the living room for media.
From missing out on that opportunity to seemingly being a gen behind with home consoles after the SNES..
I'm surprised Nintendo is still in the home console market. I honestly believe the Wii absolutely saved them for home consoles.
CertifiedFP
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PS1 was before the iPod. PS2 was before Netflix became a streaming site. PS3 was before the death of BlockBuster.
By the time the PS4 was out, the rest of the tech industry had successfully out-competed Sony in the multimedia market. Anyone buying a console from 2012 onward was buying it for games, enough said. Microsoft wasn't quite as keen on this and was still stubbornly trying to get their foot in the door of the multimedia sector.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Yes and no and yes.
It seems like Ken has been trying to make the PS3 since way back then. The PS3 effectively wiped out all the money Sony made from the first two PlayStations didn't it? He was then basically booted out of Sony as a result? Unless someone can correct me, I thought that's how it went down.
So yes, Sony gained because PlayStation was born. But then no because the device Ken ultimately wanted o make is th one that wiped out the success of the first two, but then yes again because Ken is gone and Sony is doing better now.
Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.
Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.
If rolling your successful market and your not-successful market into one questionably successful market is innovation, then yeah they doin it
PeregrinSe7en
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right now nintendo is the laughing stock of the industry
think about that, nice and quietly
meanwhile sony is raking in the dough
-Mutsukki-
Member
Is there a source on this?
glad nobody asked you then!