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[dracula_x]

It's mad to me that all this spawned a competitor in the console market that in 22 years has sold like 485 million consoles between the home and portable.

Wonder if Sony will announce the 500m mark when they get there? Or do people with speadsheets already think they've done it?

Yes, that's a huge success. Just for comparison, Sony Walkman – 385 millions units sold. → http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/capsule/20/

 

[HandsomeCharles]

First, thank you!

Secondly, oh Jesus. Sony and Nintendo were both shady as hell. So it's not like they didn't notice the contract, but just never realized how much it would fuck them up. And they did battle it out in court after all.

What could have been if Yamauchi was just a little more... gentle in resolving matters. (But I guess he felt his honor got betrayed too)

Yea, nobody really came out of that looking great. That said, I believe that them parting ways (from the offset) was actually very good for the industry. It allowed it to grow, target multiple different audiences etc. Even if Nintendo is feeling a bit sore right at this particular moment in time, it was probably still a good thing overall.

 

[Giever]

WTF is up with these gifs of pop stars at the end of random posts?

It's PopGAF, and it's just awfu-- MESS. SLAY QUEEN! YAAAAAAAASS

oh, sorry, don't know what came over me

 

[-shadow-]

There's something so off in this gif, and I can't quite put my finger on what...

 

[LurkFish17]

Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.

You, can you pass that shit around bro?

 

[Holmes]

Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

 

[JonathanPower]

Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.

They surely aren't.

 

[DBT85]

Since December 1994 Nintendo's sold over 540m consoles between home and portable as well.

My point wasn't to trash Nintendo lol. That's why I didn't even mention them.

Since you did, Nintendo were well established in the gaming marketplace. Sony were not. To come from having 0% market share and sell as much as they have is mad. They had no studios, no relationships with 3rd parties, nothing.

 

[ika]

Interesting interview. They definitely need to make "Pirates of Silicon Valley 2: Japan Connection" with this drama lol!

 

[disap.ed]

- the president of NoA at the time, Mr. Arakawa, warned that letting Kutaragi do whatever he wants could cause problems

He was right.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

Kutaragi made the whole thing out to bigger than it really was, trying to use the situation to further his own ambitions

You know, bigger than it really was...Just a massive collaborative project between two of Japan's (and the world's) biggest entertainment and technology companies. No big deal.

The translation or the source sounds off or something...

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Oh man, dude, you're hilarious.
Check the whole PS4 library. It crushes the WiiU library.

True. But the exclusive one doesn't.

Having said that, I'm aware exclusives aren't as important as they once were.

 

[JonathanPower]

True. But the exclusive one doesn't.

Having said that, I'm aware exclusives aren't as important as they once were.

It does if you don't like Nintendo games. This is entirely subjective.

 

[AquaWateria]

It does if you don't like Nintendo games. This is entirely subjective.

The same thing can be said if you don't like mature PlayStation games...

 

[wenaldy]

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Ironically enough, Sony's first foray into video games, Sony Imagesoft, was apparently originally set up to publish games exclusively for Nintendo consoles.

 

[Primethius]

Re: exclusives

It's a dick waving context about an entirely subjective matter. Amazing.

 

[Auctopus]

- the president of NoA at the time, Mr. Arakawa, warned that letting Kutaragi do whatever he wants could cause problems

Love that line.

 

[Bishop89]

Best thing to ever happen to this industry.

Bless Sony and crazy ken

 

[test_account]

So it wasn't Nintendo's fault at all. It was Sony's. Maruyama and Kutaragi in particular.

What wasnt Nintendo's fault? Surely they are the only one who could do the decision to go with Philips instead?

 

[valouris]

What if the protoypes were built by Kutaragi and his team without official approval by Nintendo? It would explain both their existence, and why the contract was breached, with no side pressing charges.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Best thing to ever happen to this industry.

Bless Sony and crazy ken

YES INDEED!

1)Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

2)Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.

1).Bloodborne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ENTIRE wii u library

2) Nintendo Switch - Dreamcast 2.0 CONFIRMED!

 

[test_account]

http://i.imgur.com/bARng2J.gif

Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.

So you think that Nintendo will never do mid-generation upgrades anymore like they did with the DS and the 3DS? Thats basically what the PS4 Pro is.

 

[novabolt]

Instead of saving the industry, the guy should've saved his eyebrows instead.

 

[NeOak]

YES INDEED!



1).Bloodborne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ENTIRE wii u library

2) Nintendo Switch - Dreamcast 2.0 CONFIRMED!

You fell into it. Tsk tsk.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Seriously, this is Japan's own Pirates of Silicon Valley. Someone make it happen.

I was going to say the same thing! If they can make even a TV movie of POSV's quality about the genesis of the Playstation then it'd be a really fun watch. I'd certainly watch it and I've always been more a Nintendo fan than a Sony one.

 

[Business]

Finally this post gets the proper reply with its own gif, thanks.

 

[Blablurn]

I love crazy ken. So ambitious.

 

[nephilimdj]

Both companys are better due to it. Didnt wii launch with karaoke app in Japan? Remember was like 1 dollar for a midi file with lyrics

 

[rrs]

Both companys are better due to it. Didnt wii launch with karaoke app in Japan? Remember was like 1 dollar for a midi file with lyrics

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread, I don't see how adding karaoke to it was a big deal. Like seriously, it was hot at the time in Japan. A few consoles got addons to act as a mic setup (all but stayed in Japan) or the cd addon supported cd+G (karaoke disks would had at the time used this to show lyrics)

 

[wapplew]

Now that crazy Ken is gone, can they try again?

 

[Mexen]

Alright, GAF. Let's talk about the industry if the PlayStation never happened.

 

[humansarehorses]

True. But the exclusive one doesn't.

Depends on what you count as exclusive since both the Wii U and the PS4 have new games that are only playable on Nintendo and Sony systems but not necessarily on those systems. If you count Breath of the Wild on the side of the Wii U, I see no reason to not count games like Persona 5, Grand Kingdom, the Project Diva games, Cyber Sleuth, Odin Sphere, Steins;Gate 0, etc.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I dream of someday getting more details on that contract and the decision not to sue.

Beautiful.

So it wasn't Nintendo's fault at all. It was Sony's. Maruyama and Kutaragi in particular.

When people label you a fanboy, this is why. This is the dumbest reading of the article possible.

I'm glad they never worked together. Keep those grimdark first parties as far away from Nintendo as possible.

The Switch is about to redefine what a game console is, then Sony will realize why Nintendo didn't want discs.

Have you seen the Wii U library? It's exclusives trounce the PS4 library.

Have you seen the Switch? The PS4 Pro is shaping up to be an overpriced disappointment meanwhile Nintendo is bringing that innovation back to this creatively bankrupt industry. Nintendo ain't playing around any longer.

Yes let's champion the company that brought about the death of the middle market. smh

I hope you are referring to the countless shitty PC ports and $10 Toys R' Us games because frankly that is where the bulk of those games came from.

Did I trip and wander into early 2007 GameFAQs somehow?

 

[Kthulhu]

Most succesful people are.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Alright, GAF. Let's talk about the industry if the PlayStation never happened.

nintendo'h would still be in the predicament they're in now

 

[Cheerilee]

Alright, GAF. Let's talk about the industry if the PlayStation never happened.

Saturn would've killed N64 (doesn't matter if we're talking Sony's nonexistence or Sony working with Nintendo to provide a karaoke-based SNES CD add-on, Nintendo still would've stuck with carts and pulled an N64).

Dreamcast would've been the industry standard for the PS2 generation. Nintendo might have had an improved showing with the GameCube, as it would have had a graphical advantage against the Dreamcast (as opposed to showing up late against the PS2 with nothing to offer), but if Xbox still comes into the industry, that takes the wind out of GameCube's sails. Maybe the GameCube does better in Japan.

Sega is very much alive, and leading the industry, at least until the Xbox 360 days, although not doing nearly as well as Sony did in our reality, and the industry is noticeably smaller (with more room for N64, GameCube, X360).

 

[Rob2K19]

Alright, GAF. Let's talk about the industry if the PlayStation never happened.

Darkness?

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Darkness?

a world without innovation. a concept as alien to nintendo as an ALIEN bursting out of a man's chest

 

[jroc74]

Saturn would've killed N64 (doesn't matter if we're talking Sony's nonexistence or Sony working with Nintendo to provide a karaoke-based SNES CD add-on, Nintendo still would've stuck with carts and pulled an N64).

Dreamcast would've been the industry standard for the PS2 generation. Nintendo might have had an improved showing with the GameCube, as it would have had a graphical advantage against the Dreamcast (as opposed to showing up late against the PS2 with nothing to offer), but if Xbox still comes into the industry, that takes the wind out of GameCube's sails. Maybe the GameCube does better in Japan.

Sega is very much alive, and leading the industry, at least until the Xbox 360 days, although not doing nearly as well as Sony did in our reality, and the industry is noticeably smaller (with more room for N64, GameCube, X360).

Gotta agree with this.

Sega would still be in the console business. Saturn and Dreamcast were amazing.

 

[v1oz]

I'm glad the PlayStation deal fell through. Just imagine if the N64 used CDs? N64 games have aged better than most PlayStation games. Much of it because there are no loading times. I remember going to my friends house to play his PS1 - the loading times were atrocious, you even got to play Galaga during load screens for Ridge Racer. Even the fighting games had losing screens which were really annoying. Now just imagine Mario 64 with a load screen between each level? It just would not work, part of what makes Mario 64 amazing is that the whole experience is seamless.

 

[Starfish Hero]

Just when you thought the console wars were dead

 

[Dyson Industries]

- the president of NoA at the time, Mr. Arakawa, warned that letting Kutaragi do whatever he wants could cause problems

prescient old bastard

 

[test_account]

I'm glad they never worked together. Keep those grimdark first parties as far away from Nintendo as possible.

The Switch is about to redefine what a game console is, then Sony will realize why Nintendo didn't want discs.

So after using disc based media for 15 years (Gamecube 2002 to WiiU 2017), this will make Sony realize now why Nintendo didnt want to use discs in 1995? The reason why Nintendo use carts in Switch is because of the portability nature, not really much more to it than that.

 

[MacTag]

My point wasn't to trash Nintendo lol. That's why I didn't even mention them.

Since you did, Nintendo were well established in the gaming marketplace. Sony were not. To come from having 0% market share and sell as much as they have is mad. They had no studios, no relationships with 3rd parties, nothing.

That's not actually true, Sony was involved in gaming since the early 1980s. Both software and hardware in fact.

 

[Zok310]

LMAO,
The best kind of people are the ones that know how to play bonehead executives like a fiddle and get what they want.

Nice work Ken.

 

[jroc74]

So after using disc based media for 15 years (Gamecube 2002 to WiiU 2017), this will make Sony realize now why Nintendo didnt want to use discs in 1995? The reason why Nintendo use carts in Switch is because of the portability nature, not really much more to it than that.

Funny how loading times is this big pro ...even more funny that the PS4 and XBO both install games to the harddrive now vs reading everything off the disc drive..

Yea it was great for Mario 64. Too bad games like Metal Gear and FF had to skip the N64 because of loading times.....

And just about every other iconic game from that period not on the N64..

And yea...the more I think about it the Switch is a handheld first n foremost at its core.

 

[Narroo]

Most succesful people are.

To be fair statements like that downplay the fact that there are billions of unsuccessful jerks out there. It's a confirmation bias.

...and the fact that most people are jerks, regardless.