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Invincible Official Trailer - Amazon Prime animation based on Robert Kirkman's comic

Tams

Member
The only bad things about this series are Amber and at times the animation.

Well, sometimes the drawing quality is great for the style they are going for (I'm not the greatest fan), but even in the last episode it was piss poor in some scenes. Low budget I guess and they at least put the effort into the major fights.

Very much looking forward to the next two seasons.
 
Watched the first two episodes last night, I torrented the comic like ten years ago after reading The Walking Dead in 2009 and thought it was some stupid Capeshit. Should have had more faith in Kirkman, I'm in love with Omni-Man. Big regret not reading it but this is the treatment I wanted TWD to get instead of that trash AMC show.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I dont really get why Cecil doesn't know how bad vultrimites are when they seem to have an intergalactic bad rep. Random bad guys can hire galactic fighters like battle Cat, you'd think one of them would say "double for you, you are being colonized!"

And didn't the 1 eye space guy come to earth a few years prior and get driven off by omni-man? Wouldn't he have recognized a vultromite?
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
I haven't read the comics. How many seasons can be squeezed out of this? I'm hoping for a good 4 to 5 and not 10+ like Walking Dead.
Well, it ran for 144 issues. They've [played with the timeline a bit in the show as far as I recall. Some things that have happened in the show don't happen till later in the comics. I think the big fight we saw at the finale was around issue twelve or so in the comics. So there's quite a lot of meat on the bone. We already know that we are getting two more seasons at the minuimuin. I could see a couple more after that.
 

Revolutionary

Gold Member
I ended up watching the last two episodes out of boredom last night. Skipped through the teenage crap as much as possible and got to the good stuff (Omni-Man).
Not a bad ending for a first season, but overall there was SO MUCH wasted time in this season. Teenage garbage that no one should care about, montages set to shitty licensed music, etc. etc.
Hope they take the complaints to heart and improve the second season tremendously. Cut the teenage melodrama, cut the embarrassing level of wokeness, and invest more money to improve the quality of animation.
 
I ended up watching the last two episodes out of boredom last night. Skipped through the teenage crap as much as possible and got to the good stuff (Omni-Man).
Not a bad ending for a first season, but overall there was SO MUCH wasted time in this season. Teenage garbage that no one should care about, montages set to shitty licensed music, etc. etc.
Hope they take the complaints to heart and improve the second season tremendously. Cut the teenage melodrama, cut the embarrassing level of wokeness, and invest more money to improve the quality of animation.
If it's already in the comic why would they remove it?
 

Revolutionary

Gold Member
If it's already in the comic why would they remove it?
Care to be a little more specific? I listed several things that I want them to cut.
Teenage melodrama - no one who watches a "mature" comic book show should be interested in this. It's straight out of Batman Beyond, and the teenage melodrama held back that show tremendously as well.
Wokeness - I highly doubt it was as blatant and embarrassing as it is in the show
Mediocre animation - was the comic book badly drawn as well?


Also, I hate to say it, but I thought the gore was completely gratuitous at times as well. Specifically, the train station scene. It reminded me of those mediocre Dead Space animated movies in that regard
 
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Care to be a little more specific? I listed several things that I want them to cut.
Teenage melodrama - no one who watches a "mature" comic book show should be interested in this. It's straight out of Batman Beyond, and the teenage melodrama held back that show tremendously as well.
Wokeness - I highly doubt it was as blatant and embarrassing as it is in the show
Mediocre animation - was the comic book badly drawn as well?


Also, I hate to say it, but I thought the gore was completely gratuitous at times as well. Specifically, the train station scene. It reminded me of those mediocre Dead Space animated movies in that regard
I'm gonna assume the teenage melodrama and "wokeness" is gonna be in there. Dunno what you mean by that though, strong female characters and a diverse cast? This dude made The Walking Dead in 2003 and had gay, black, etc all over the place before it was cool to do it.

Also yes the animation isn't great and the montages could either be removed or have better storyboarded action sequences to go with them but Amazon has A LOT of money they could throw at this so we'll see.
 

Revolutionary

Gold Member
I'm gonna assume the teenage melodrama and "wokeness" is gonna be in there. Dunno what you mean by that though, strong female characters and a diverse cast? This dude made The Walking Dead in 2003 and had gay, black, etc all over the place before it was cool to do it.

Also yes the animation isn't great and the montages could either be removed or have better storyboarded action sequences to go with them but Amazon has A LOT of money they could throw at this so we'll see.
No, the embarrassing level of wokeness I'm referring to is stuff like the fact that every single couple in the show is interracial or gay. My wife pointed it out to me around halfway through the season that even couples in the background are interracial. It was as if there was a mandate at the animation studio lol

And to be clear, my wife and I are interracial ourselves. It's the fact that the show bends over backwards to show how woke it is that is, again, embarrassing to us.

Edit: For instance, this scene where Mark's friend is admiring his boyfriend's ass
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Notice the background characters?

Again, it's like there was a mandate at the animation studio that EVERY couple must be interracial and/or gay. It's not representative of real life (and I live in NYC, aka "the melting pot of the world"), and that's why we find it embarrassing. Hope I've explained myself clearly.
 
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Revolutionary

Gold Member
Oh sweet gaf has an Invincible thread.

"I saw 4 interracial couples, very unrealistic"

:/
That's not even close to what I said, but nice try. Next time read my post in full and apply some thought before replying with something stupid. Go back to Era if you want to reply with your misrepresentative bullshit
 
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JeremyEtcetera

Unconfirmed Member
Care to be a little more specific? I listed several things that I want them to cut.
Teenage melodrama - no one who watches a "mature" comic book show should be interested in this. It's straight out of Batman Beyond, and the teenage melodrama held back that show tremendously as well.
Wokeness - I highly doubt it was as blatant and embarrassing as it is in the show
Mediocre animation - was the comic book badly drawn as well?
Regarding Batman Beyond, the teenage drama was necessary in the long run to show how Terry had matured over the seasons not only as Batman, but as a person. Same with Static Shock and most of the greater Spiderman cartoons(original, spectacular, etc). You remove that aspect and you might as well make a show as boring as Spiderman Unlimited. You have to see the differences in a show that uses teenage melodrama and high school as a way to enhance the plot(like the shows listed above) and a show that simply uses it as a backdrop for cool points(X-Men Evolution). Mark has to mature over time. His reluctance to let go of Amber and his response at the very end of the show signals this. Regardless, I don't see the high school side of things lasting past Season 2 based on what has been teased amongst fans. So I guess grit your teeth for one more season.

Also regarding your latest post, forced wokeness isn't when interracial couples exist in a show. Forced wokeness is actually when you stop an entire bloody war action scene to have two female characters look at the camera and say "Don't worry, she's got help" while you make other female characters pose in a line near that character while everyone's busy killing each other on that battlefield.



If they were truly super woke, they wouldn't have made Amber, the black chick, the most annoying woman in the world to the entire audience. When all sides are agreeing Amber has got to go, they've succeeded in making her the overly emotional high school villain, while making Eve look like a complete goddess amongst women in exchange.

They also wouldn't have instantly fridged/killed Mark's best friend's boyfriend, and would instead force you to watch them make out all of the time while together(because what else would two bored teenagers do in a dorm room).

If anything, I'd say this show doesn't give a fuck about anyone but Mark(since it's his title card). And it shows that a ton. Anyone in this show, at anytime can be killed
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and the show runners will give you about one minute to process it and fully expect you to move on completely afterwards.
 

Revolutionary

Gold Member
Oh no, don't feel embarrassed.
Sorry not sorry. The pandering is indeed embarrassing for some of their target demographic like myself, a 'person of color' (god I hate that term) in an interracial marriage. But it obviously didn't stop us from watching the rest of the season. It's just something we roll our eyes at, possibly laugh, and move on. :)
Regarding Batman Beyond, the teenage drama was necessary in the long run to show how Terry had matured over the seasons not only as Batman, but as a person. Same with Static Shock and most of the greater Spiderman cartoons(original, spectacular, etc). You remove that aspect and you might as well make a show as boring as Spiderman Unlimited. You have to see the differences in a show that uses teenage melodrama and high school as a way to enhance the plot(like the shows listed above) and a show that simply uses it as a backdrop for cool points(X-Men Evolution). Mark has to mature over time. His reluctance to let go of Amber and his response at the very end of the show signals this. Regardless, I don't see the high school side of things lasting past Season 2 based on what has been teased amongst fans. So I guess grit your teeth for one more season.

Also regarding your latest post, forced wokeness isn't when interracial couples exist in a show. Forced wokeness is actually when you stop an entire bloody war action scene to have two female characters look at the camera and say "Don't worry, she's got help" while you make other female characters pose in a line near that character while everyone's busy killing each other on that battlefield.



If they were truly super woke, they wouldn't have made Amber, the black chick, the most annoying woman in the world to the entire audience. When all sides are agreeing Amber has got to go, they've succeeded in making her the overly emotional high school villain, while making Eve look like a complete goddess amongst women in exchange.

They also wouldn't have instantly fridged/killed Mark's best friend's boyfriend, and would instead force you to watch them make out all of the time while together(because what else would two bored teenagers do in a dorm room).

If anything, I'd say this show doesn't give a fuck about anyone but Mark(since it's his title card). And it shows that a ton. Anyone in this show, at anytime can be killed
tenor.gif

and the show runners will give you about one minute to process it and fully expect you to move on completely afterwards.

I think it's clear that I'm just an old man yelling at clouds when it comes to teenage drama lol. I was more receptive to it when I was younger, but as 30-something it's just old hat that I'd rather skip through. 👴

As for the interracial couple thing, again, I'm not saying their mere existence is woke, it's that it appeared that EVERY single couple was (in that dorm episode, at least) that we found funny/bizarre. It's not representative of real life, but then again nothing in this show really is so it's whatever. No one's triggered, it's just worthy of an eye roll.
 

Fbh

Member
The finales was great IMO.
Overall I enjoyed the show, I agree that the teenage drama was the worst part, and they could have cut back on it, but aside from that it was great.

I hope the next season manages to be as good. The whole central conflict with Omni Man was definitely the main hook of the season and I hope they have something equally engaging to use as a main overarching story for the next one.

I also hope the events of the finale doesn't mean Omni Man gets less screen time next season as he is by far the best thing in the shoot and the central hook of the story.
 

Alebrije

Member
I like the idea of super heroes or villians can die...except omni man at the moment.

Never knew about the comic...but hope 2dn season is as good as one.

Yep the teenage cringe is part of these days on every show..but at least this one is fine...
 
Checked in on the comic, teenage shit is there but dunno how long it lasts, diversity is amped up slightly but not that much. I was right though the MC looked white in the comic and was white but they changed that in the show.

Nothing really that damaging. Finished S1 earlier and my favourite characters are Omni-Man, Monster Girl and Robot. A bit sad that Zachary Quinto will no longer be voicing Robot though... I think. 🤔
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Checked in on the comic, teenage shit is there but dunno how long it lasts, diversity is amped up slightly but not that much. I was right though the MC looked white in the comic and was white but they changed that in the show.

Nothing really that damaging. Finished S1 earlier and my favourite characters are Omni-Man, Monster Girl and Robot. A bit sad that Zachary Quinto will no longer be voicing Robot though... I think. 🤔
I'm waiting for the woke crowd to realize robot was a white dude who stole the dna of a POC to assume his duskiness (?) only because it was fetishized by a white girl he fancied.

This show goes DEEP if you wanna view it that way :p

We don't even have to touch Omni-man having a servile "pet" ASIAN wife :)
 
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INC

Member
Liked it, cant wait for season 2.

It had a decent balance to me, not really much woke shit, or enough that it doesn't both me.

Love the art style and character design, love the 50s look to the costumes.
 
I loved the series. Thought it was very well done. I really enjoyed Omni-Man's character and Mark's arc altogether. I agree with Revolutionary Revolutionary that some elements were annoying especially regarding the interracial couples and gay characters, as it, to me felt a bit forced and unnatural, but overall, it's still such a well done show/drama that it was an annoyance at best.

Really impressed with everything to be honest, animation looked great, voice acting felt natural and art direction, while a tad bland, was still cohesive and pretty good. I look forward to where the story is gonna go, I kind of made the mistake of watching some YT mini-docs about the characters that went over the ENTIRE story arcs for the characters, but I enjoyed it and look forward to seeing how it'll all be adapted in the future.
 
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Dacon

Banned
Someone spoil me on the rest of the comics please. The more serious super hero stuff is catching on big.

Shit gets pretty fucked up and dark. Not sure how much the show will adapt.

Now, I read this like 15 years ago so some of this is a bit rough and out of order.

Mark and Even hook up. Mark meets his dad again, finds out he's had a change of heart. Hooked up with some alien bug people, Mark has a younger brother now who ages faster than humans.

Galaxy rallies to fight Viltrumites. Big badass mite named Conquest fucks everyone up, damn near murders everyone in really brutal fashion.

Shit happens, Mark gets trapped in another dimension for 4 years, comes back, finds out Eve is fat and had an abortion. Nolan hooks back up with Debbie.

Galactic war, Viltrumites are defeated. Emperor is exiled, Nolan becomes new Emperor, mandates that the mites live amongst humans and learn from and protect them.

While all this was happening Robot and Monster Girl got trapped in the alien bug dimension and become the rulers. Monster Girl's been cured, is hot now. They come back and turns out a lotta drama happened, Monster girl impregnated one of the bugs in her monster form, her son comes to earth, fucks shit up, robot kills him.

Mark becomes a terrorist alongside genius Dinosaur man to try and do better and save the earth and the environment.

Eve is attacked by one of Mark's old enemies, is about to die but saves herself with her powers by rebuilding her body on the brink of death.

Another timeskip after Mark is trapped again fighting away from home, this time Mark comes back and his baby is like 4 years old and Mark missed it all, while Mark was gone Eve hooked up with some alien dude.

Mark is raped by a Mite named Anissa and left crying in a crater as she flies away promising him it will happen again.

Robot goes psycho and takes over the world. Everyone thinks the world is better after Robot's hostile takeover. Mark refuses to acknowledge it, his dad doesn't want to get involved and strain the tenuous relationship between the Mites and earth. Mark leaves earth to live in space with even and his family.

Old Emperor comes back with new army, lotta drama, people die including Mark's rapist, who had a change of heart and wanted Mark to meet his rape baby before the war happened. Nolan dies fighting in the war, Mites are defeated. Mark becomes new emperor. Mark takes in his rape baby. Glorious Grayson empire.

Basically in the end what the Mites wanted all along happens anyway, just peacefully without war.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
wtf at the rape part :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
No kidding.

Was this old school rape rape or more like modern "you said you were 29 but you are really 40 so even though I was totally into it at the time now I feel violated!" rape by deception?

Sounds like this show could go some weird directions. With Rogan involved I'm sure space weed will come into play as well ;)
 

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
No kidding.

Was this old school rape rape or more like modern "you said you were 29 but you are really 40 so even though I was totally into it at the time now I feel violated!" rape by deception?

Sounds like this show could go some weird directions. With Rogan involved I'm sure space weed will come into play as well ;)

Marks not into at all. The Velimite forces it on him and he's powerless to resist because she's so much stronger
 

e&e

Banned
Well, then perhaps Resetera is more up your street?
Or you know, discuss the damn show without me knowing about your politics...it’s just fucking annoying and GAF made the right choice to nuke Politics board...take your shit elsewhere, don’t care if you don’t like “woke”.

Anyways, Holy Shit at that first episode!
 

INC

Member
Is this thing any good?!

Yes, its a decent 7/10, one of the better animations, stick with the first episode, because at first you'll think its a standard teen comic book series.

Theres not really any woke shit, yes there's gay characters etc etc, but its not full blown SJW BS

Looking forward to the next season
 

GymWolf

Member
Yes, its a decent 7/10, one of the better animations, stick with the first episode, because at first you'll think its a standard teen comic book series.

Theres not really any woke shit, yes there's gay characters etc etc, but its not full blown SJW BS

Looking forward to the next season
I'm gonna watch the first episode for lunch in half an hour, stay tuned.
 

INC

Member
Yeah i readed that, but you also have seth rogen doing the VA so it counter-balance.

Briefly he's in it, to the point its not even an issue, not a massive part, like out of the whole season, maybe 7mins screen time, over 2 episodes
 
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Dacon

Banned
Theres not really any woke shit, yes there's gay characters etc etc, but its not full blown SJW BS

Looking forward to the next season

Mark saying that it's sexist to beat the bad guy and get the pretty girl, Mark's gay friend suggesting he read crap from SJWs like Coates, Amber being changed from a an understanding blonde haired blue eyed girl to a bitchy black third wave feminist, and then there's all of the silly pointless race and gender swaps here and there.

Thankfully it's not super overt and in your face all the time, but seeing as how Kirkman apparently idolizes Erik Larson it wouldn't surprise me if it gets worse in season 2. We'll have to see.
 

INC

Member
Mark saying that it's sexist to beat the bad guy and get the pretty girl, Mark's gay friend suggesting he read crap from SJWs like Coates, Amber being changed from a an understanding blonde haired blue eyed girl to a bitchy black third wave feminist, and then there's all of the silly pointless race and gender swaps here and there.

Thankfully it's not super overt and in your face all the time, but seeing as how Kirkman apparently idolizes Erik Larson it wouldn't surprise me if it gets worse in season 2. We'll have to see.

Never seen the comics, so no reference, Honestly didn't even notice any of that, or I just don't care.....its a violent cartoon, thats generally enough to hold my attention
 

Blade2.0

Member
Mark saying that it's sexist to beat the bad guy and get the pretty girl, Mark's gay friend suggesting he read crap from SJWs like Coates, Amber being changed from a an understanding blonde haired blue eyed girl to a bitchy black third wave feminist, and then there's all of the silly pointless race and gender swaps here and there.

Thankfully it's not super overt and in your face all the time, but seeing as how Kirkman apparently idolizes Erik Larson it wouldn't surprise me if it gets worse in season 2. We'll have to see.
He said those things in the comics and his friend was gay in the comics also. Changing Amber is a bit weird, though, but honestly she's a good character like this. Don't know really know what you are looking for, here. Kirkman isn't a conservative.
 

Dacon

Banned
He said those things in the comics and his friend was gay in the comics also. Changing Amber is a bit weird, though, but honestly she's a good character like this.

I haven't read Invincible in a long time, but I don't ever remember Mark saying anything that stupid in the comics, and yes William is gay in the comics, I didn't insinuate that he wasn't. William also doesn't suggest trash reading like that to Mark because Amber isn't that kind of girl in the comics. No, Amber is not a good character like this she is the weakest most annoying part of the show, and comes off as borderline psychotic in the final act.

Don't know really know what you are looking for, here. Kirkman isn't a conservative.

I don't know what you're looking for here, no shit he isn't who said he was? The invincible comics were far from politically correct, and I'm point out that there's definitely a woke element here. Whether that matters to people or not is their choice.
 
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Ulysses 31

Member
Entertaining series about one discovering power and learning how to use it.

Amber and the teen drama was the low point and the 1 song per episode felt too forced.
 
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Davey Cakes

Member
Never seen the comics, so no reference, Honestly didn't even notice any of that, or I just don't care.....its a violent cartoon, thats generally enough to hold my attention
The way it’s meant to be.

The people upset or put off by anything even remotely “woke” are expecting it and looking for it. Most viewers won’t even notice.

The college episode with the interracial couples is a great example since you basically have to pause it and analyze the scenes and background characters to even be aware. Seriously, WHO FUCKING CARES?!
 
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