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[DeathyBoy]

generally people hate the prequels, but what would have been ideal for you as fans when making them, how would you make them and what sort of plot would you have? Personally I would have started episode 1 with Anakin being a teenager not a boy and the transition to the dark side span gradually over the 3 movies instead of ramping up in 3 "just because". Generally I didn't see much of a problem with Hayden, I thought the dialogue was shit and everything needed to be re-worked, I mean even Jackson sounded goofy as fuck saying those lines.

It's the easiest fix ever - start with Obi-Wan in the Qui-Gon role and Anakin in the Obi-Wan role. Show Obi-Wan going from a rebel Jedi to the last Jedi, show Anakin going from a rookie to bah gawd

 

[Ristifer]

I can't stop laughing

Holy Christ

Don't read the comments, unless you want to keep laughing.

 

[Sesuadra]

In a universe where the holiday specials are a thing it can't be the worst star wars movie to exist. but no. it is not one of the good ones. it is mediocre

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there is just too much wrong with this movie. but yes, it is the only one serviceable from the PT for me. Still I don't need to never watch it again after my re-watch this year..

 

[Already Torn]

Don't read the comments, unless you want to keep laughing.

Oh Padme, if only you knew what that love would do to the universe.

 

[neorej]

Is it time to accept Revenge of the Sith as "one of the good" SW films?

 

[Auto-Reply]

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It would be interesting to see if lifelong fans and more recent fans have different opinions on ROTS vs. the rest of the movies. What do you think? ROTS is a good movie, AND a good Star Wars film, right?

I give the movie a thumbs up.

I liked Episode 1 more than that movie... and a big reason why I didn't outright despised Episode 1 was because I was confused by what I had seen coming directly out of the movie theatre and thought it could only go up from there. But then they got worse as they progressed. I made the mistake watching the second movie in theatres again, I should have known better. I learned my lesson for the third movie, years later I catched it on tv and my god, it got even dumber than the second, don't know how but it did.

In Episode 1, of course Anakin was terrible and Jar Jar and the Gungans unbearable. But at least there was the podracing and swordfight at the end, didn't save the movie but at least it was somewhat entertaining, hey I got to play Episode 1 Racer, got something good out of that. By the time the other movies were out, frustration had set in and I wasn't able see any redeemable qualities any longer, the bad parts stood out too much!

 

[autumnleaf]

Yes it is an excellent film.

 

[Beren the Empty-Handed]

Sure, if you have really low standards.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

It is terrible. Even Star Trek V is better - at least that had an allusion of a point.

 

[MattKeil]

It's the easiest fix ever - start with Obi-Wan in the Qui-Gon role and Anakin in the Obi-Wan role. Show Obi-Wan going from a rebel Jedi to the last Jedi, show Anakin going from a rookie to bah gawd

This, of course, was quite literally the plan in the original first draft of Episode 1. Why did he change it? I don't even have a theory.

If you remove it from the 16 years of anticipation and the fact that it has no meaningful connection to the overall Anakin story that couldn't have been handled with a few lines of expository dialogue, Ep1 has aged pretty well into a fun but flawed little space adventure.

 

[smudge]

As much as I love Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine, no all the prequel films are awful.

 

[A Serious Man]

I remember going to a midnight showing with a friend who was out-of-his-mind excited for the huge space battle above Coruscant. The battle starts and there are maybe five seconds of awesomeness and then it spends the rest of time dealing with some stupid ass spiderbots that Anakin could have force-pushed off his ship at any point (he does exactly this in the TCW series btw) and that disappointment set the stage for he rest of he film. RotS was garbage when it came out, it's garbage now and it will always be garbage.

 

[Count Dookkake]

It's really time to accept AotC as the best SW movie.

 

[nacimento]

The Phantom Menace is better than Revenge of the Sith.

 

[DerZuhälter]

Revenge of the Sith and The Phantom Menace are both poor movies, yet still more impressive than The Force Awakens.

 

[neorej]

Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides was better than the entire PT combined.

 

[jett]

No, bro.

I'll admit when I walked out of the theater after first seeing I thought it was good. I have no idea why, now. Maybe swept up in the hype of seeing the Vader turn at last. The more I thought about it the quicker my opinion on it lowered. Then the "do not want" memes started appearing which just further ruined the movie lol. The prequels may not all be equally bad, but they're all bad.

As far as I'm concerned there's only one great/good SW movie in ESB, although I enjoy RoTJ.

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

Don't read the comments, unless you want to keep laughing.

A Youtube comment section for a Star Wars video where 90% of commentors seem to be women.
Well there is something I thought I would never see.

 

[dh4niel]

Unless the new films take a massive dive in qaulity, no.

 

[Sojgat]

No.

It's still the worst prequel. All it has going for it is McDiarmid's scene chewing performance.

 

[TheSecondSpitter]

"I have seen... a security hologram... of him... killing younglings." -Obi-Wan

If ever start an indy band it will be called "Killing Younglings".

 

[jett]

What's the worst line from REVENGE OF THE SITH?

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." -Obi-Wan

Worst line in RotS or...

...best line in the entire franchise?

It's so completely intrinsically stupid.

 

[neorej]

- "I'm not going to die in childbirth, Anakin. I promise you."

- "No, I promise you."


Genius writing right there.

 

[ClivePwned]

I don't have the pathological hate for the prequels (honestly, if the alterations to the OT in 1997 didn't alert you to where Lucas's head was at, then I don't know what to say. Even Jedi was a pretty clear indicator of what these would be like.

Dialogue is pretty awful and without someone to punch it up (like, Lawrence Kasdan, for example), it's just an awful first draft. It's made worse by awful delivery. Are the actors in the movie always this bad? no, you've seen them acting way better in oter stuff, but some actors really need a Director to work with them, and Lucas is not an "actor's" director.

It's also rather languid because it tries to tie up every single loose end so that there's a clear path to episode IV some 20 or so years later (so much so that's there's little room for any adventures for most characters in between III and IV. You want an Obi Wan standalone? Two hours of Ewan talking to himself in a cave on Tatooine.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Anakin Steals a Kiss

the kisses in the original were way better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQDvsf5lAp0


Really a lot more passionate.

 

[DocSeuss]

I watched the movie and not only did I forget most of what happens in it, but I almost fell asleep, woke up, and had to rewind it.

I never sleep while watching movies.

I never forget what movies are about.

I remember a random bad Australian movie from the 1980s about horses more than Revenge of the Sith.

The movie just didn't have any energy. It's not a good movie. It's a bad movie. Just, like... just a bad movie made by people who know how to make movies look good.

 

[PdotMichael]

The tragedy of a man who really doesn't like sand.

 

[ronaldthump]

Nah. Still awful.

Just awful and cartoony with ridiculous video game fights.

 

[Hutchie]

I went to see this in cinema and i swear in the scene where obi wan is watching anakin kill the younglings he says "I cant watch anymore" and i shouted out in the cinema "neither can i mate" got laughs too.

Revenge of the Sith and the whole prequel trilogy is my biggest, yes biggest cinema disappointment ever

 

[Futureman]

It's an OK movie if you are a big Star Wars fan. Otherwise it's pretty abysmal.

 

[Greatest Ever]

Even if we forgive a lot of plot lunacy and bad effects and pandering:

1) JAR JAR FUCKING BINKS IS THE REASON THE GALAXY GOT FUCKED?

2) Padme died because she didn't feel like living. The fuck, Lucas?

I don't mind people liking it, and to a degree I understand, but my god. The movie is written to be hated on.

 

[Ushojax]

This, of course, was quite literally the plan in the original first draft of Episode 1. Why did he change it? I don't even have a theory.

I don't think it was that bad an idea, introducing Anakin as a slave on a backwater planet could have laid some very interesting groundwork for his turn to the dark side, rather than introducing him as a Jedi apprentice.

The Vader of the OT was all about order, justice etc, Anakin being enslaved by some gross junk dealer and his mother being tortured and killed by wild savages on a lawless, gangster planet that the Republic doesn't care about...it makes perfect sense that someone like him would eventually reject the uncaring and dogmatic Jedi Order in favour of a just Empire that brings the rule of law to every corner of the galaxy. Unfortunately George made some really dumb decisions like:

1. Making Anakin 8 years old, instantly limiting the range of emotions he could show.
2. Anakin's life of slavery seems fine, he gets to play with his friends, live with his mum, race cool cars, etc.
3. Casting a teenage Natalie Portman opposite him

Anakin should have been of a similar age to Luke in ANH and been much more rough around the edges. A kind-hearted person but one who has a burning resentment inside and who despises being trapped under Watto's ownership. Then it's only logical that meeting Padme, Qui-Gon etc would push him to finally break free, join the Jedi and become somebody. What we get in TPM is a totally oblivious, saccharine Anakin who has no real input to the story and is just ushered from place to place by Qui-Gon. His relationship with Padme is non-existent and it damages the whole trilogy as Anakin never really feels fully-fleshed out due to George wasting a film on him as a kid.

 

[Burai]

It's the easiest fix ever - start with Obi-Wan in the Qui-Gon role and Anakin in the Obi-Wan role. Show Obi-Wan going from a rebel Jedi to the last Jedi, show Anakin going from a rookie to bah gawd

Didn't even need to do that. Have Obi-Wan and Anakin both as his students. Obi-Wan as a young man, Anakin as a teenager. Once Qui-Gon dies (possibly due to something Anakin does or as a self-sacrifice to protect Anakin (whoah, poetry!)), Obi-Wan gets promoted to master, takes on Anakin to continue his training but the jealousy is there as they were always equals in terms of ability but not maturity. Oh look, Anakin has a starting point for his mistrust of the Jedi and the start of a frayed relationship with Obi-Wan.

I mean, seriously this is so easy to write.

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

I think people really, really want to like RotS because it has everything that fans of the OT wanted to see put to film:

- Anakin being seduced by the dark side, betraying his brothers in arms and doing some really evil shit
- Jedi being wiped out
- Republic falls, Palpatine's rise to power
- Yoda and Obi-Wan fleeing to safety
- The twins being split up and taken to their new families

Now, RotS has all of this so on paper its the film that fans want!

The problem is it wasn't done very well. At all. :/

 

[Ray Wonder]

How on earth to people watch this scene and not feel embarrassed?

Anakin steals a kiss...

I think this one is worse

 

[autumnleaf]

Qui-Gon should have survived TPM and took the Dooku role in Eps 2-3.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Fuck Revenge of The Sith.

Hopefully that answers your question thoroughly.

 

[teeny]

I see a lot of praise for McDiarmid's character in RotS and I sort of get it; the dude was clearly having a blast.

But I just cannot reconcile the Palpatine we get in that film with the one in the OT. They ruined his aesthetic, his voice, everything. My favourite scenes are the opera scene and when he silently places his hand on Anakin's brow after the duel on Mustafar, in symmetry with Obi-Wan and Luke in ANH. That's as far as I would go.

Anakin should have been Luke's age in Episode 1. His fall could have been depicted with more of a curve. Vader was all about law and order and peace - Anakin's temptation needed to be that the war was so bad and that the Jedi had collapsed on the battlefield so catastrophically that he believed he had no choice but to enhance his powers through the dark side and end a destructive conflict through sheer force.

What we got instead was a selfish and self-absorbed Anakin willing to kill children because his groomer said so. He doesn't even pause to contemplate the fact he has been manipulated or that Palpatine so clearly has been pulling the strings. It makes the narrative completely unbelievable, if it wasn't already.

 

[Haloid1177]

Qui-Gon should have survived TPM and took the Dooku role in Eps 2-3.

Qui-Gon should have been killed by Anakin during the arrest scene instead of Mace. Would have been a much heavier scene. Mace getting jobbed was awful.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

No, Revenge of the Sith is shite. Characters are awful, motivations are pathetic, fight scenes are dull hollow CGI crap (the fight between Obi-Wan and Grievous is a farce, the fight between the council & Palpy is amusingly bad and the fight between Obi and Annie is a joke which lasts about three times longer than it ought to have done and has an irredeemably bad ending) and the whole thing just has no sense of pacing and is too concerned with marrying up to another set of movies which wouldn't take place until 20 years later. It's slightly better than the other two, but all three of them are godawful.

 

[takriel]

Qui-Gon should have survived TPM and took the Dooku role in Eps 2-3.

That would have been so much better.

 

[Htown]

Revenge of the Sith and The Phantom Menace are both poor movies, yet still more impressive than The Force Awakens.

No.

 

[Ushojax]

Qui-Gon should have survived TPM and took the Dooku role in Eps 2-3.

Dooku should have been in Episode 1 and been the only Jedi on the council to agree with Qui-Gon. Then his turn would have meant something.

 

[Comfort Jones]

I will never stop hating the acting, the overall plot, and how over done every action scene feels.

There's no "nostalgia" for me ruining my view, I grew up with these films, I saw this in theaters with my dad, etc. Really it has everything for it in terms of pulling on my nostalgic heart strings but as I've gotten older all I see are flaws on flaws.

If you think this film is better than TFA you must not give a fuck about acting, cinematography, the visuals on screen not looking fake as fuck, or characters talking like they've been dead inside their entire lives. A film having "more ideas" does not carry it above its garbage execution.

 

[scoobs]

All 3 of the prequels are god awful piles of shit.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

All 3 of the prequels are god awful piles of shit.

so they fit right in with the rest of the series

 

[MrBadger]

It's pretty fuckin bad tbh but I can still sit through all of it. It's got a healthy mix between cool moments, hammy dialogue and stupid shit so it's always entertaining

 

[Rockandrollclown]

I want to like it, but it makes me hate it. Its better than AotC, but thats about it. Opening is ok, but Anakin's fall is awful. Padme dying of a broken heart is fucking terrible. Obi Wan vs Anakin fight goes on way too long. Even Obi Wan vs Grievous is shit. It has some interesting story beats, unlike AotC, but the dialog just lets it down.

 

[Kumquat]

I have maintained that it is a decent SW movie. It may not be Empire or even New Hope but it stands its ground.


Phantom Menace on the other hand ranks right up there with the holiday special.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Getting a lot of fun from posters that were diehard fans of TFA when it was released and now say it's worse than the prequels.

Star wars fans.

TFA was amazing, it's not tacky or stupid and the actors delivered, the characters were interesting, and let's be honest, it introduced the world to a lot of new fans. The IP was falling to irrelevancy and it possibly saved it.