Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Which ones specifically, as not a single one of those lines is competent in context and couldn't absolutely be done written much better, or acted better.
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Is it time to accept Revenge of the Sith as "one of the good" SW films? SPOILERS
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Monocle
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Seriously. God damn.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Oh god, rereading that list of bad quotes...
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
Fucking seriously, Lucas?
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
Fucking seriously, Lucas?
Ristifer
Member
Ahhh makes sense to me now! To hell with Obi-Wan!
It's too bad the audience of the prequels couldn't watch Anakin's career with great interest. We never even see a true evolution of his character.
JimJamJones
Member
It's the best of the 3 worst.
And it's still not that good when you really look at it by itself, let alone compare it to the OT.
And it's still not that good when you really look at it by itself, let alone compare it to the OT.
Fancyarcher
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ROTS isn't a particularly great movie, but it's the most entertaining of the prequel trilogy, and the only I'd watch on a random occasion. It's got many of the same problems as the other two, but there's a lot of better elements about it compared to TPM or AOTC. McDiarmind's performance really makes the film a lot too, and JW is as great as ever, even if it was badly edited into the film itself.
That being said, Hayden's performance is well not good, and I blame that largely on Lucas's shoulders, since he's not a particularly great actor director.
That being said, Hayden's performance is well not good, and I blame that largely on Lucas's shoulders, since he's not a particularly great actor director.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Man, the opening of RotS is so bad. Sooo bad. Not from a visual perspective but....
Oh hey, uhmm....I guess the enemy managed to capture, you know, THE MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN THE UNIVERSE, between movies. They probably keep him locked up in a prison, guarded by the fiercest warriors the Sith have. OR he sits all alone in a giant empty throne room, loosely guarded by droids that have proven again and again to be utterly useless. One of the two.
Like, imagine if Han and Luke came to rescue Leia and she sat on a giant fucking throne, all alone, no guards around. Man, what a believable scene that would have been.
Oh hey, uhmm....I guess the enemy managed to capture, you know, THE MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN THE UNIVERSE, between movies. They probably keep him locked up in a prison, guarded by the fiercest warriors the Sith have. OR he sits all alone in a giant empty throne room, loosely guarded by droids that have proven again and again to be utterly useless. One of the two.
Like, imagine if Han and Luke came to rescue Leia and she sat on a giant fucking throne, all alone, no guards around. Man, what a believable scene that would have been.
When you put it like this is hilarious as fuck.
"Go and end the war my apprentice murder everyne on Mustafar it doesnt matter if they beg for their lives"
"ill do whatever you ask, I dont care for others at all, children? yeah I murder them too, Jedi? yeah them too I dont care at all"
Mike Works
Member
There, cleaned it up a bit.
pizzaparty
Member
Agreed.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Now let's not get crazy here. TPM is better than AOTC, but so is being repeatedly stabbed in the testicles.
The lack of Jar Jar is reason enough for ROTS to be placed above TPM though.
I'm not a huge fan of revenge, but i thought it was fine.
The Sith don't have warriors. The idea is Count Dooku is enough to protect him. If you're a crazed dark jedi, you probably don't need much else. And it's all a ruse acting on behalf of the droid army, anyway.
30yearsofhurt
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Only a Sith deals in absolutes
Only a Sith deals in absolutes
ONLY
adverb
1.
without others or anything further; alone; solely; exclusively:
This information is for your eyes only.
Worst line of dialogue in the Star Wars movies and I'm struggling to recall a worse one from any other movie.
I think that's all in thehe music; it conveys the proper emotions when the story and actors completely fail to.
Killer Queen
Banned
I mean sure, if TPM only consisted of the 3-5 minutes of Obi Wan and Qui Gon fighting Darth Maul and you omit everything else which seems to be the mental pathway of everyone that feels this way.
GentlemanCrow
Member
Objectively awful in almost every regard. It's impressive how not good it is. It's definitely as bad as Clones. Tacky, tasteless, tonally broken.
I do not accept it or its predecessors as part of the series. I can't. I won't. And luckily, so far the current film makers seem to agree - keeping most references as vague and unobtrusive as they were in the OT.
How anyone can say it's better than the force awakens is completely lost on me. And then to even say it's better than Jedi. Get out of the planet.
I do not accept it or its predecessors as part of the series. I can't. I won't. And luckily, so far the current film makers seem to agree - keeping most references as vague and unobtrusive as they were in the OT.
How anyone can say it's better than the force awakens is completely lost on me. And then to even say it's better than Jedi. Get out of the planet.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Yeah, but maybe try and make the ruse seem believable?
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
I don't see how The Force Awakens is a better Star Wars movie than Revenge of the Sith. I get that as stand alone films its better but inside the universe of Star Wars, it was the microwaved leftovers of a great meal. Mind you , I liked 7 well enough and I watched it multiple times since last year but it's got many a flaw.
cj_iwakura
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GAF loved TFA, lol. It was hard to have a dissenting opinion in that OT.
That is easily the best scene out of the entire prequel trilogy.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
It's the best Star Wars movie of them all, and always has been
If we're going with that metaphor I'll take microwaved leftovers over a sparkly turd any day.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Because it actually had a point to exist and didn't actively harm the franchise. ROTS is flawed by every objective measure of what makes a film good and is only remembered because of how bad it is. It feels like we're arguing which is the better film between The Green Berets and Go Tell the Spartans.
Glass Rebel
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Saying that TFA is the worst isn't a "dissenting opinion", it's a straight up lie.
Skellig Gra
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Not true at all, both start off with a lost droid on a sand planet who when recovered by an unknown force sensitive person leads them to the good guy army, that person comes under the wing of an old veteran who is later killed by a evil force user, there is also a cantina scene. Look I'm a fan of the movie but there are numerous parallels.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
Ill say this. Padme's line "And this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause" was dope as fuck
Which is why the prequels made less and less money with each entry and TFA broke box office records.
Out of all the complaints of RotS, I guess this one just doesn't rank high enough for me.
It's also played out with no subtlety. Palatine sits in the chair and cackles and tells Anakin to kill him, and Dooku gives a wtf look.
it's all pretty hokey, I'll give you that. But whatever. It really ranks low on my complaints list.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Yeah, it was good. There are so many goofily dramatic lines in the movie that one of them was bound to stick.
The OT was also on a downward track. Don't expect VIII to be outdoing VII.
Killer Queen
Banned
Parallels and exact story beats are not the same thing and a lot of that is just general tropes that weren't invented by ANH.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
And it's not a GAF only sentiment, this isn't a situation like the Vita which is only talked about here, the general public, as well as critics, adored TFA. Meanwhile it's literally the exact opposite with ROTS. It was panned as a mediocre and disappointing film yet people are trying to prop it up as some kind of underrated gem. Remember, we're talking about a romance movie that centered around a romance that no one actually buys.
Say no to revisionist history.
cj_iwakura
Member
Guess I'm a liar then. It's a terrible script. At least Lucas could worldbuild properly, not throw big events at the screen trying to ape ANH.
TFA is good direction, bad writing. Prequels are the opposite. Lucas needed an editor to keep him in check, but he had free reign.
TemplaerDude
Member
We just had this thread. No. It's a bad movie. The acting is stiff, the writing is terrible, the cinematography is anything but, the only redeeming quality it has is the CG. It's a bad movie, stop trying to rewrite history.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I hope Disney remakes 1-3.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I mean, I also wouldn't say it's among the worst things the movie did.....but opening with that really made me dread the next 120 minutes.
It's pretty undeniable the similarities. pacing, beats, locations, characters. I like the film too.
Yes, Yes!!
No need to hide the fact that EP3 is the best Starwars movie of them all.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
Killer Queen
Banned
This is why you're not getting anything for Christmas.
Eric the Red
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NO. GOD NO.
Yeah, I guess it could have that effect. Had a cool space battle in the opening.
30yearsofhurt
Member
In you, disapointed, I am
Microwaved food is still food.
I mean if we judge things on their merits as a Star Wars film TFA at least understands the Force as established in the OT better than any of the Prequels.
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