dragonyeuw
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No, though I would like them to start putting out smaller AA titles between the tentacle AAAs and GAAS stuff.
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Is Sony as a gaming company in trouble?
- Thread starter Lumpyoatmeal
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BlackTron
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If only Microsoft saved up for the big one instead of playing out a Supermarket Sweep fantasy, everything could have been different.
Punished Miku
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They're not going away, but I think they're definitely more vulnerable than people on here like to believe. But it's pointless to discuss on here. Maybe in a few years people will be emotionally prepared to have that conversation.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Lmao 2020 literally had Sony releasing this:
- Dreams
- The Last of Us II
- Ghost of Tsushima
- Spider- Man Remastered
- Spider-Man Miles Morales
- Demons Souls
- MLB The Show
- Predator: Hunting Grounds
- Iron Man VR
- Sackboy: A Big Adventure (published and paid by PlayStation even if the studio was not theirs)
- Astro’s Playroom
- Nioh 2 - published by PlayStation
But sure…what a terrible year
Lumpyoatmeal
Member
reinking
Gold Member
In a few years when they are leading up to the launch of the PlayStation 6? Nah. Maybe 7-10 years.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Aguero9320
Member
Now? No…
Later? Maybe if they don’t adapt.
Later? Maybe if they don’t adapt.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Totoki-san is sharpening his blade at this very moment, so PS Studios will undergo some sweet restructuring and optimization, a few young devs will be given new career opportunities elsewhere and the ship will correct its course.
finalflame
Banned
One and done.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Yes.. I am surprised they haven't filed for bankruptcy yet.
Skifi28
Member
Ronin_7
Member
Yeah I'm sure Sony is closing doors tomorrow morning, letters should be going down soon to investors.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
No, not even close. They are still doing extraordinarily well despite the epic flop of Concord.
anothertech
Member
All signs point to them going third party and dropping out of the hardware game. They should never have put their first party games day one on their streaming platform. And releasing a half powered console this gen really fucked them over.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
Little Chicken
Banned
Yes, I'm very concerned 
Aenima
Member
Its still amazing to me how Sony decided to still be in the console making business after the PS3. That MOFO only had 1 year of tiny profits and several years of heavy losses. It paid off cuz the PS4 and PS5 gens printed money like no other gen did.Sony made more money in the 3 years after the launch of the Ps5 than during the entire Ps4 generation
They are doing fine.
Also interesting to see that in every gen Sony lost money in the launch years except in the PS5 gen where the launch year seems to have been they most profitable year ever.
cash_longfellow
Member
I don’t think enough people with PlayStations want that shit, for it to be as much of a game changer as you delusional folk think it is.
cash_longfellow
Member
lughnasadh123
Member
Go hug your mom. You both need it right now.
King Dazzar
Member
So, you're the guy playing it. I wondered who he was.
yurinka
Member
Absolutely not. They are more successful than any console maker ever has been in gaming history.
To continue doing what they are doing.
This is their top grossing generation for SIE, they made more profit than in all previous generations combined and broke their fastest selling 1st party game record with games released in 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. Plus have recent all time records in basically all their segments and are in a multi year growh in all areas.
I was going to post this image to show their revenue and profit, but someone already did it before:
Not true, Destiny 2 The Final Shape, Gran Turismo 7, Gran Turismo Sport, MLB, PS Home, Little Big Planet, Everquest series, DC Universe Online are examples of very successful Sony GaaS.
The majority of gaming userbase and revenue comes from GaaS, representing a percentage of the total that keeps growing every year since many years ago.
Meaning, to get stuck making only non-GaaS AAA SP games would be a long term suicide for big publishers.
Sony is increasing their investment in non-GaaS SP games while on top of it also started to bet in several GaaS made by very successful and experienced devs. They are doing the right thing, and as a result they are being very successful.
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TrebleShot
Member
Sony could cancel all internal projects and future console releases and still be hugely profitable.
cod and fifa would keep them going for at least another decade.
cod and fifa would keep them going for at least another decade.
kazuyamishima
Member
thismeinteil
Member
Oh, pray tell ole wise one, how are they so vulnerable?
This is their most profitable generation ever, by far. And their closest competitor has basically bowed out and are slowly transitioning to a 3rd party publisher, sending games their way, which is free money for Sony. If you want a
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
What if Sony was the one to buy sega and release the PlaySaturn
i loved the ps3
diffusionx
Gold Member
I don't think they are in trouble, but what it comes down to is what is their plan and vision. Like, to use another example, when Marvel was at peak MCU, every movie was making tons of money, Avengers 3 one of the most successful movies ever, etc., they were putting together a plan that was shit like Wandavision, She-Hulk, Eternals, Kang, replace every superhero with a stunning and brave woman, etc.. And once that plan got put into action, it just blew up and now nobody cares and they're scrambling. I also remember when the 2nd of the Soy Wars trilogy came out, all the SJWs were like "lmao losers it's making tons of money" but, then the 3rd one crashed and like, look at it now. It's just a piece of shit franchise. So what is happening right at this moment isn't an indicator, exactly.
Again, I think they're going to be alright, but Destiny flopping, Concord bomba, and the lack of any major release in 2024 (sorry Astro Bot fans) is hopefully a wake up call because whatever led to this is not cutting it.
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dano1
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Brought to us by the same person that gave us this gem of a thread...
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/why-did-sony-and-microsoft-decided-to-kill-console-gaming.1673875/
He is trying his click bait skills to see if he has a career in Journalism
DavidGzz
Gold Member
You guys acting as if this first time Sony made a game that was complete flop....
Stop overreacting to every little thing.
Everyone was trying to kill Halo when all we had to do was wait for Halo to kill itself.
Yoda
Member
I think some people are being a bit dismissive to the point, while certainly they are in no immediate trouble, their strategy was to lean in hard to GAAS and it clearly is failing (Bungie layoffs, concord, last of us multiplayer cancellation). The company clearly wanted it's software products to have long tail monetization beyond pushing units and w/e projections they had back when they were on a shopping spree for studios are most likely all coming in well below expectations. I think the PS5 generation will continue as we'd expect, but the next generation will most likely need another narrative to drive growth beyond what they can do with good action/adventure exclusives and not shooting themselves in the foot like their competition has a habit of doing.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Agreed. But they would be better off without a mouth breathing Horizon fanboy at the helm.
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Vroadstar
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Unrivaledx88
Member
They were Before the PS4 launch , now the gaming industry depends on PS. Dumb thread
Hero of Spielberg
Member
They're not in immediate trouble as such. But there are a few things that have happened that make me think they're not quite as invincible as some would believe.
Jim Ryan 'retiring' (you don't usually see these types of guys on big money step down when it's smooth sailing ahead and more money to be made), leaks about concerns about their strategy moving forward, their mixed GaaS so far, comments from Sony execs concerned with profit margins, Bungie layoffs and speculation, etc.
I get the feeling behind closed doors that Sony / PS have concerns about how they're going to grow in the future beyond the traditional console base. We can see they've made attempts with VR, PC releases and GaaS all with mixed results so far.
People look at them now and think, 'they just need to get back to what they do well, release big AAA single-player games on consoles'. The problem is, shareholders are insatiable beasts who want more, more, more and a the moment it looks like the console market is reaching it's bounds. Not to mention AAA development has become an even longer and more expensive task than ever with single games development starting to span entire generations. You really need to be hitting gold everytime.
Jim Ryan 'retiring' (you don't usually see these types of guys on big money step down when it's smooth sailing ahead and more money to be made), leaks about concerns about their strategy moving forward, their mixed GaaS so far, comments from Sony execs concerned with profit margins, Bungie layoffs and speculation, etc.
I get the feeling behind closed doors that Sony / PS have concerns about how they're going to grow in the future beyond the traditional console base. We can see they've made attempts with VR, PC releases and GaaS all with mixed results so far.
People look at them now and think, 'they just need to get back to what they do well, release big AAA single-player games on consoles'. The problem is, shareholders are insatiable beasts who want more, more, more and a the moment it looks like the console market is reaching it's bounds. Not to mention AAA development has become an even longer and more expensive task than ever with single games development starting to span entire generations. You really need to be hitting gold everytime.
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But if they continue the dark road with woke shit i believe they would end up the same path Microsoft/Xbox is on right now.Similar threads
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