SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
When you can market cap with nothing, why bother creating anything. Shareholders are celebrating right now.
Sony Market Cap Hits $160 Billion For The First Time In Its Company History!
are you happy paying more for a 6yo console and accessories?
Generic
Member
- Just stop being poor brounsubscribe and don't buy games?
"Sony Market Cap Hits $160 Billion For The First Time In Its Company History!"
Poor Sony... they DO need more of our money. Are you telling me you'll accept yet another increase in console prices because it all serves to make Sony the first trillion dollar Japanese corp? That's some horrible brand loyalty if that's the case. And considering the length of your response, I bet you'd be happy to fork over the money.
Generic
Member
"players who join PlayStation Plus during this year's celebration can save up to 33% on select 12-month memberships"
Days of Play 2025 Deals
We're also celebrating Days of Play with exciting promotions across consoles, games, accessories, and gear from direct.playstation.com (where available), participating retailers (prices may vary), and on PlayStation Store. For more information on your local deals, be sure to check out the Days of Play 2025 website.
Deals directly from PlayStation and participating retailers
From May 28 to June 11 in select regions, save on hardware and...
Sony doesn't even allow current subs to get Ps+ discounts anymore.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
am I paying?
Mr Moose
Member
Increased prices for consoles shouldn't affect you since you have one already but you should probably sell your PS5, you'll be happier that way.
They normally do one for people who are already subbed near the end of the year.
Last edited:
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Just don't buy it on principle
CrimsonTide
Member
Yep. All this.
To ME… my own opinion… this is the worst generation Sony/MS. ever. Yet revenue is breaking records.
Doesn't mean good games haven't came out. Some amazing games have. But not near the volume IN MY OPINION as Gen 7-8.
It's the extras that's got them cashing in
Last edited:
Mibu no ookami
Banned
That't not at all what I said.
What's true for Sony doesn't mean it is a priority for consumers.
For some reason people really struggle to understand dueling priorities. The length of my response was to explain the thought process behind Sony's decisions and aspirations.
That's not at all to suggest that it's pro-consumer. I think it's funny that you can't make an argument based on facts and reality unless you're personally in favor of it and expect that from others.
Hero_Select
Member
It does though, on the gaming side.
This is Sony as a whole which makes hundreds of other products.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
The rate at release regarding games is not something exclusive to Sony that is something the entire industry is faced with right now regarding AAA games
And when you even look at the last several years of releases clearly they are still releasing games people are purchasing.
You also need to factor playstation is not simply solely only about the games Sony publishes it is also about games that square , capcom, EA and other publishers release..
So every year we have a big number of releases by Sony in this year is no different
They released helldivers 2 and Astrobot last year And leaned on their third party Partners for stuff like final fantasy 7 ,stellar blade, Silent Hill 2 etc.
During 2023 their big release was Spider-Man 2
Followed by third party support like final fantasy 16 , BG3
This year they're putting out the sequel to Ghost and Death Stranding 2 followed by the third party support what stuff like metal gear solid 3 remake, Monster Hunter, AC etc.
So their output in my opinion is not that much different than a lot of the industry right now based on how long it takes to put out triple-a games, their focus is on making sure those games are rock solid not simply just releasing just to release.
As we know with Concord not every game is gonna knock it out of the park which means they need all hands-on deck regarding their big releases , I would say the only major thing that specifically has changed with the publisher is more so when they are announcing those games they are no longer announcing stuff deep years in advance and only things that have closer release dates, But they're output is not that different than lots of the industry right now
So consider, releasing 3 Uncharteds during PS3's gen didn't have it selling more then PS4, those fans still bought a PS4 to play that IP
Not releasing 3 GTAs or something didn't stop Rockstar from breaking many records with RDR2 during PS4's gen, cause fans still bought a PS4 to play that game and will still play games that release regardless if the IP had 3 releases vs 1
So if someone buys a PS3 cause Uncharted, sir...they can only buy it 1 time to count for that sale, I don't know anyone who likes that IP, that will lets say NOT buy a PS4 cause they only got Uncharted 4 and not 5, 6, 7 etc Do you not see how odd that might sound? So their output imho would only be an issue if we saw like zero of certain genre or something, but fans of many of those games have a wealth of content to play on PS5 support those sales right now
So just getting a remake of The Last Of Us, Intergalactic and The Last Of Us 3 this gen (if it even comes out this gen) isn't really a deal breaker for many, fans of that genre will buy a PS5 to continue playing those types of games ,regardless if we are getting 3x a gen in that series or just 1
Who the fuck is skipping GTAVI cause this gen we won't get GTA 7 and 8?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Now use that money to make my iPhone camera flatter. That bump is getting ridiculous.
Oh I can easily understand dueling priorities. But I never will empathize with millionaires, billionaires, and rich corporations that make business decisions for short term shareholder gains above all else. Sony did a great job at masking their corporatism during the late ps3 and ps4 age. They seemed to all but drop the facade lately and are very much revealing they are the cold calculating corporation some people couldn't directly see.
Sell my PS5 to be happier? Man, sonysaleaGaf is a different beast. Why the gate keeping? I should give up my enjoyment of PlayStation and sell the system because I disagree with their pricing practices?
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
It was all worth it Sony bros. Enjoy this victory. You did it.
I plan on drawing a bath and putting on the Cerny PS5 tech breakdown with a glass of my most premium wine.
I plan on drawing a bath and putting on the Cerny PS5 tech breakdown with a glass of my most premium wine.
Last edited:
Mr Moose
Member
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The piece of shit that doesn't work 5 is killing it
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I don't know if you've seen what's happening but prices are increasing...everywhere. Nintendo didn't went all the way and increased their games by 20 bucks no less. Assembling a great PC nowadays is laughable at how absurd everything costs as well. They are all doing it. It sucks.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Where did you get empathy from?
If I can tell the future and predict it, does that mean I empathized with it?
It's crazy that you jump to such ad hominem.
StreetsofBeige
Member
Stock right now is at about $26 with a market cap of $160B. The stock price peaked at about $31 during the dot.com phase in 2000. This is all split adjusted.
Reason for all time high market cap is because they issued about 20%+ more shares (before the split) since then.
Congrats Sony. Your company is finally worth more than 25 years ago!
Reason for all time high market cap is because they issued about 20%+ more shares (before the split) since then.
Congrats Sony. Your company is finally worth more than 25 years ago!
TKOFromTokyo
Member
The TV and movie businesses are likely weaker than back then. PlayStation is doing the heavy lifting. Sony has done a great job since the PS3 disaster. They've has some mistakes, but their hardware has been the best and they've put out some great software. PS5 has been disappointing for new games for me. However, I've really enjoyed backwards compatibility on the console. Xbox has been a complete disaster and Nintendo does their own thing. There's no question that Sony rules the console market.
GermanZepp
Member
For the first time i bought a gamimg PC, ps5 probably my last playstation. (I had all the ps consoles) The worst generation for my gaming tastes. Gonna play GTA6 and sell it all for graphics card money. 
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Not sure where you're getting that info from…I just looked at the financials that they published two weeks ago and their LT debt is less than their cash.
Last edited:
Pasta la Vista
Member
Well looks like gaas is here to stay, they got the money to burn.
Kotaro
Member
I got data from Yahoo finance. Their cash is roughly 13 billion USD. Their debt is roughly 30 billion USD
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Can you please provide the link? That's not remotely close to what I'm seeing.
Kotaro
Member
Cash = 1.76 trillion yen
Debt = 4.2 trillion yen
kiphalfton
Member
Hooray! And all it took was the death of gaming.
bitbydeath
Member
Isn't Sony one of the few that haven't increased their prices yet?
If you think it's bad now, wait til they match the others.
existensmaximum
Member
I agree, that's what I hope for too. But why on earth would they change strategy when it is proving to be super profitable?
Edgelord79
Gold Member
PixelatedBeast
Member
I've invested in Sony since I was a kid...they feeding, we eating!Congratulations shareholders
yogaflame
Member
It could have been bigger if there was no live service blunder since lost some money from those gaas blunder. And it could have been bigger if we saw more 1st and 2nd party exclusives which fans wants. Good thing brand loyalty is very strong and so many loyal and patient fans of PS bran. And Ps5, is to be honest, a very good hardware.
Fbh
Member
But imagine if instead of a very popular console where they get a 30% cut of all games, DLC and micro transactions sold on it and have tens of millions of people paying them a monthly subscription, they had none of that but were a third party publisher that released Helldivers 2, Concord and Astrobot on PC and Xbox last year.
They'd be a trillion dollar company right now!!!
FalsettoVibe
Member
Here you go again with this foolish talk. Stop looking lazily at only debt and cash on hand numbers. Try looking at debt to equity ratio and overall health of the company. Also, explain why is 160 billion mediocre in Sony's case.
NOT One of these games was big enough to show any big changes in their financial report. Trolls were coming up with big numbers to push their own agenda & pretend like Live Service games was ruining PlayStation & that they needed to Fire the CEOs & so on but numbers never agreed with them.
Kotaro
Member
Sony has: movies, music, financial services, TV, mobile, camera (plus other electronic gadgets), video game, streaming service (crunchy roll) = 160 billion market cap
Nintendo has: video game. THAT'S IT = 95 billion market cap
that should give you the idea
Last edited:
Robb
Gold Member
That's not really it though. There's movies, theme parks etc. as well these days.
That said your point still stands.
Last edited:
Felessan
Member
It was pennies.
Fans are not main market. They made on their whole gaas strategy way more money they lost, even opportunity lost of not concentrating on SP games.
They are making on f2p games so much money that any mishaps on their own gaas initiative, that they do to establish name for their large f2p players base, are negligible.
Like PS was mostly known for big 3rd party games, but they do some push during PS3 and now PS associated with big 1st party SP games. PS5 have many big 3rd party GaaS games, but there are few of 1st party one that Sony can associate Playstation name with. And without it it hard to push playstation as "best place to play (gaas) games"
