Sony Market Cap Hits $160 Billion For The First Time In Its Company History!

If you were the CEO of Sony and your goal was to say, make Sony the first trillion-dollar Japanese company. What would you do to get it there?

Now you may ask, why would Sony want to be a trillion dollar company? Well, look at it's major competitors and markets. Sony is primarily an Entertainment company and Big Tech is taking over Entertianment. Only with size can Sony realistically compete with these giants across multiple playing fields.

Sony is kind of a small fish in a big pond these days, but they know by leveraging their strength in different markets, they can grow a lot quicker.

Microsoft is worth 3.42 Trillion. It took Sony 20 years to defeat their purse.
Nvidia is worth 3.3 Trillion. What happens if they had to compete against Nvidia in cloud gaming head up?
Apple is worth 2.9 Trillion. They built Apple TV+ overnight.
Amazon is worth 2.19 Billion. They have Amazon Prime Video and are just starting to try to get into gaming.
Netflix is worth 515 Billion. They have massive control over the tv/film business and again will have a huge advantage if things go to cloud.

Disney is worth 201 Billion. Sony Pictures struggles to compete with them head to head.

At some point we're going to see Sony getting aggressive in terms of M&A. This is the first time I've seen them with so much cash on hand; more cash on hand than debt.

Companies like WB Discovery, Skydance Paramount, T2... are going to be on their radar the larger they get. Only way Sony can survive is to grow.

If you're CEO you want to be the biggest tv/film company, the biggest music company, and biggest game company. That's not them today. Especially in the picture business, Sony probably has to buy someone in the next 10 years or sell out of the market.
Poor Sony... they DO need more of our money. Are you telling me you'll accept yet another increase in console prices because it all serves to make Sony the first trillion dollar Japanese corp? That's some horrible brand loyalty if that's the case. And considering the length of your response, I bet you'd be happy to fork over the money.
 
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"players who join PlayStation Plus during this year's celebration can save up to 33% on select 12-month memberships"

Sony doesn't even allow current subs to get Ps+ discounts anymore.
 
Really? Well I guess Sony is totally cool again with me. I mean, everyone's doing it. Can't be mad anymore.
Increased prices for consoles shouldn't affect you since you have one already but you should probably sell your PS5, you'll be happier that way.
"players who join PlayStation Plus during this year's celebration can save up to 33% on select 12-month memberships"

Sony doesn't even allow current subs to get Ps+ discounts anymore.
They normally do one for people who are already subbed near the end of the year.
 
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Subscription services, Platform fee,Microtransactions,Hardware.
Yep. All this.

To ME… my own opinion… this is the worst generation Sony/MS. ever. Yet revenue is breaking records.

Doesn't mean good games haven't came out. Some amazing games have. But not near the volume IN MY OPINION as Gen 7-8.

It's the extras that's got them cashing in
 
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Poor Sony... they DO need more of our money. Are you telling me you'll accept yet another increase in console prices because it all serves to make Sony the first trillion dollar Japanese corp? That's some horrible brand loyalty if that's the case. And considering the length of your response, I bet you'd be happy to fork over the money.

That't not at all what I said.

What's true for Sony doesn't mean it is a priority for consumers.

For some reason people really struggle to understand dueling priorities. The length of my response was to explain the thought process behind Sony's decisions and aspirations.

That's not at all to suggest that it's pro-consumer. I think it's funny that you can't make an argument based on facts and reality unless you're personally in favor of it and expect that from others.
 
Before you fanboys celebrate

They barely release any games - and make more money than ever?

What DO YOU will management do with this info?

1. Make more games?
2. Make less games?

The rate at release regarding games is not something exclusive to Sony that is something the entire industry is faced with right now regarding AAA games

And when you even look at the last several years of releases clearly they are still releasing games people are purchasing.

You also need to factor playstation is not simply solely only about the games Sony publishes it is also about games that square , capcom, EA and other publishers release..


So every year we have a big number of releases by Sony in this year is no different

They released helldivers 2 and Astrobot last year And leaned on their third party Partners for stuff like final fantasy 7 ,stellar blade, Silent Hill 2 etc.

During 2023 their big release was Spider-Man 2

Followed by third party support like final fantasy 16 , BG3


This year they're putting out the sequel to Ghost and Death Stranding 2 followed by the third party support what stuff like metal gear solid 3 remake, Monster Hunter, AC etc.


So their output in my opinion is not that much different than a lot of the industry right now based on how long it takes to put out triple-a games, their focus is on making sure those games are rock solid not simply just releasing just to release.


As we know with Concord not every game is gonna knock it out of the park which means they need all hands-on deck regarding their big releases , I would say the only major thing that specifically has changed with the publisher is more so when they are announcing those games they are no longer announcing stuff deep years in advance and only things that have closer release dates, But they're output is not that different than lots of the industry right now

So consider, releasing 3 Uncharteds during PS3's gen didn't have it selling more then PS4, those fans still bought a PS4 to play that IP

Not releasing 3 GTAs or something didn't stop Rockstar from breaking many records with RDR2 during PS4's gen, cause fans still bought a PS4 to play that game and will still play games that release regardless if the IP had 3 releases vs 1

So if someone buys a PS3 cause Uncharted, sir...they can only buy it 1 time to count for that sale, I don't know anyone who likes that IP, that will lets say NOT buy a PS4 cause they only got Uncharted 4 and not 5, 6, 7 etc Do you not see how odd that might sound? So their output imho would only be an issue if we saw like zero of certain genre or something, but fans of many of those games have a wealth of content to play on PS5 support those sales right now

So just getting a remake of The Last Of Us, Intergalactic and The Last Of Us 3 this gen (if it even comes out this gen) isn't really a deal breaker for many, fans of that genre will buy a PS5 to continue playing those types of games ,regardless if we are getting 3x a gen in that series or just 1

Who the fuck is skipping GTAVI cause this gen we won't get GTA 7 and 8?
 
That't not at all what I said.

What's true for Sony doesn't mean it is a priority for consumers.

For some reason people really struggle to understand dueling priorities. The length of my response was to explain the thought process behind Sony's decisions and aspirations.

That's not at all to suggest that it's pro-consumer. I think it's funny that you can't make an argument based on facts and reality unless you're personally in favor of it and expect that from others.
Oh I can easily understand dueling priorities. But I never will empathize with millionaires, billionaires, and rich corporations that make business decisions for short term shareholder gains above all else. Sony did a great job at masking their corporatism during the late ps3 and ps4 age. They seemed to all but drop the facade lately and are very much revealing they are the cold calculating corporation some people couldn't directly see.
 
Increased prices for consoles shouldn't affect you since you have one already but you should probably sell your PS5, you'll be happier that way.They normally do one for people who are already subbed near the end of the year.
Sell my PS5 to be happier? Man, sonysaleaGaf is a different beast. Why the gate keeping? I should give up my enjoyment of PlayStation and sell the system because I disagree with their pricing practices?
 
It was all worth it Sony bros. Enjoy this victory. You did it.

I plan on drawing a bath and putting on the Cerny PS5 tech breakdown with a glass of my most premium wine. 🛀
 
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Considering they only got here by aggressively raising prices, fuck them.

I'm sure they'll raise prices again despite this massive success. They just can't go on without it. They're just a poor fragile company.
I don't know if you've seen what's happening but prices are increasing...everywhere. Nintendo didn't went all the way and increased their games by 20 bucks no less. Assembling a great PC nowadays is laughable at how absurd everything costs as well. They are all doing it. It sucks.
 
Oh I can easily understand dueling priorities. But I never will empathize with millionaires, billionaires, and rich corporations that make business decisions for short term shareholder gains above all else. Sony did a great job at masking their corporatism during the late ps3 and ps4 age. They seemed to all but drop the facade lately and are very much revealing they are the cold calculating corporation some people couldn't directly see.

Where did you get empathy from?

If I can tell the future and predict it, does that mean I empathized with it?

It's crazy that you jump to such ad hominem.
 
Stock right now is at about $26 with a market cap of $160B. The stock price peaked at about $31 during the dot.com phase in 2000. This is all split adjusted.

Reason for all time high market cap is because they issued about 20%+ more shares (before the split) since then.

Congrats Sony. Your company is finally worth more than 25 years ago!
 
Stock right now is at about $26 with a market cap of $160B. The stock price peaked at about $31 during the dot.com phase in 2000. This is all split adjusted.

Reason for all time high market cap is because they issued about 20%+ more shares (before the split) since then.

Congrats Sony. Your company is finally worth more than 25 years ago!

The TV and movie businesses are likely weaker than back then. PlayStation is doing the heavy lifting. Sony has done a great job since the PS3 disaster. They've has some mistakes, but their hardware has been the best and they've put out some great software. PS5 has been disappointing for new games for me. However, I've really enjoyed backwards compatibility on the console. Xbox has been a complete disaster and Nintendo does their own thing. There's no question that Sony rules the console market.
 
For the first time i bought a gamimg PC, ps5 probably my last playstation. (I had all the ps consoles) The worst generation for my gaming tastes. Gonna play GTA6 and sell it all for graphics card money. 😎
 
Sony got no money left, their debt is more than 2X their cash position

160 billion market cap for a conglomerate company with so many divisions is actually very mediocre

Not sure where you're getting that info from…I just looked at the financials that they published two weeks ago and their LT debt is less than their cash.
 
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Not sure where you're getting that info from…I just looked at the financials that they published two weeks ago and their LT debt is less than their cash.

I got data from Yahoo finance. Their cash is roughly 13 billion USD. Their debt is roughly 30 billion USD
 
Considering they only got here by aggressively raising prices, fuck them.

I'm sure they'll raise prices again despite this massive success. They just can't go on without it. They're just a poor fragile company.
Isn't Sony one of the few that haven't increased their prices yet?

If you think it's bad now, wait til they match the others. 🔥
 
Good numbers. Congratulations. I hope they use those extra money to fund great single players exclusive, revive OG PS IP, and hopefully revive Japan studio. And I hope they stop porting there 1st and 2nd party exclusive to other platform. And I hope they stop this live service or gaas madness.
I agree, that's what I hope for too. But why on earth would they change strategy when it is proving to be super profitable?
 
I agree, that's what I hope for too. But why on earth would they change strategy when it is proving to be super profitable?
It could have been bigger if there was no live service blunder since lost some money from those gaas blunder. And it could have been bigger if we saw more 1st and 2nd party exclusives which fans wants. Good thing brand loyalty is very strong and so many loyal and patient fans of PS bran. And Ps5, is to be honest, a very good hardware.
 
Playstation is on a roll!!! But for some reason, they'll stop making consoles LOL!

But imagine if instead of a very popular console where they get a 30% cut of all games, DLC and micro transactions sold on it and have tens of millions of people paying them a monthly subscription, they had none of that but were a third party publisher that released Helldivers 2, Concord and Astrobot on PC and Xbox last year.

They'd be a trillion dollar company right now!!!
 
Sony got no money left, their debt is more than 2X their cash position

160 billion market cap for a conglomerate company with so many divisions is actually very mediocre

Here you go again with this foolish talk. Stop looking lazily at only debt and cash on hand numbers. Try looking at debt to equity ratio and overall health of the company. Also, explain why is 160 billion mediocre in Sony's case.
 
It could have been bigger if there was no live service blunder since lost some money from those gaas blunder. And it could have been bigger if we saw more 1st and 2nd party exclusives which fans wants. Good thing brand loyalty is very strong and so many loyal and patient fans of PS bran. And Ps5, is to be honest, a very good hardware.
NOT One of these games was big enough to show any big changes in their financial report. Trolls were coming up with big numbers to push their own agenda & pretend like Live Service games was ruining PlayStation & that they needed to Fire the CEOs & so on but numbers never agreed with them.
 
Here you go again with this foolish talk. Stop looking lazily at only debt and cash on hand numbers. Try looking at debt to equity ratio and overall health of the company. Also, explain why is 160 billion mediocre in Sony's case.

Sony has: movies, music, financial services, TV, mobile, camera (plus other electronic gadgets), video game, streaming service (crunchy roll) = 160 billion market cap

Nintendo has: video game. THAT'S IT = 95 billion market cap

that should give you the idea
 
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It could have been bigger if there was no live service blunder since lost some money from those gaas blunder.
It was pennies.

And it could have been bigger if we saw more 1st and 2nd party exclusives which fans wants. Good thing brand loyalty is very strong and so many loyal and patient fans of PS bran. And Ps5, is to be honest, a very good hardware.
Fans are not main market. They made on their whole gaas strategy way more money they lost, even opportunity lost of not concentrating on SP games.
They are making on f2p games so much money that any mishaps on their own gaas initiative, that they do to establish name for their large f2p players base, are negligible.

Like PS was mostly known for big 3rd party games, but they do some push during PS3 and now PS associated with big 1st party SP games. PS5 have many big 3rd party GaaS games, but there are few of 1st party one that Sony can associate Playstation name with. And without it it hard to push playstation as "best place to play (gaas) games"
 
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