SteadyEvo
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Wrong… WRONG
The 1st 3 were the greatest movies of all time. Flawless. Perfect.
The 4th. Felt rushed and unnecessary with no payoff. And forcing comedy in? Terrible
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Is the matrix a ruined franchise now like Star Wars and Alien?
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The 1st 3 were the greatest movies of all time. Flawless. Perfect.
The 4th. Felt rushed and unnecessary with no payoff. And forcing comedy in? Terrible
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
From your review the best possible thing would have been to leave the series alone tbf.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
awful filmsI STAND BY MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT
UNDERWORLD > MATRIX
I collect VHS tapes
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You need to watch more moviesWrong… WRONG
The 1st 3 were the greatest movies of all time. Flawless. Perfect.
The 4th. Felt rushed and unnecessary with no payoff. And forcing comedy in? Terrible
SteadyEvo
Member
I do. Just happen to appreciate good ones. Won’t stand for anyone shitting on the masterpiece that was the trilogy.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Like comic books, these franchises are what you make of them. Pick and choose. Pretend the stuff you don't like doesn't exist.
Like for me, Aliens is one of my favorite movies. As far as I am concerned only Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 exist. All that other shit is some elseworlds nonsense that doesn't exist to me.
Like for me, Aliens is one of my favorite movies. As far as I am concerned only Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 exist. All that other shit is some elseworlds nonsense that doesn't exist to me.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I like the original trilogy, sure there was parts in 3 &2 that was questionable, Reloaded being the better of the two.
but 2 & 3 did have a lot of standout moments. They just not as perfect as the original.
This one?
I'd say it started off good and had some good ideas but Lana clearly didn't understand The Matrix.
The film goes nowhere and is pointless.
If I was to give it the benefit of the doubt.
I'd say this wasn't a sequel but more of a prologue.
But until they do something with it... just keep The Matrix as a trilogy and ignore this.
but 2 & 3 did have a lot of standout moments. They just not as perfect as the original.
This one?
I'd say it started off good and had some good ideas but Lana clearly didn't understand The Matrix.
The film goes nowhere and is pointless.
If I was to give it the benefit of the doubt.
I'd say this wasn't a sequel but more of a prologue.
But until they do something with it... just keep The Matrix as a trilogy and ignore this.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
wtf are ppl smoking saying 2 and 3 were bad? gaf's taste in stuff is sometimes dumb af. The highway scene in the second movie was an incredible work of art. The entire highway was custom made specifically for the movie, ppl should look it up. Plus the fight vs waves of Smith, was another highlight, the club, and so on. So many awesome moments and the music still incredible to this day.
I'd also like to say I enjoyed 2 and 3 as well. They at least felt like matrix. This new movie just felt off. They really should have rethought out the story for this one. Trinity should have been in the movie just as much as neo with the way the story worked out. They leaned a little too hard on the nostalgia and should have simply had nods to the old movies that hardcore fans would notice since it is just a continuation. It was getting kind of annoying with all the jedi blast that neo kept doing for the last half of the movie.
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Yeah, but I’ll still watch it. Also Animatrix was good.
The ninja farmer
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At least it isn’t terminator bad 
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
No, you aren't. I liked it too! Especially the Seraph fights!
Hypereides
Member
I'd argue Matrix already went off the road after the first movie. Looking at the original as the entire selfcontained universe then its pretty good. The sequels afterwards were redundant, served primarily to cash in the original's success by WB (can't really blame 'em though), and managed to demystify the original's extraordinary, otherworldly allure in the process. As such, they devalued and corroded the legacy of its original conception making it lose its appeal.
Pagusas
Elden Member
what the hell are you talking about, the “wave of Smiths” fight is one of the most ridiculed/hated/laughed at scenes in cinema history. even on release that scene was crucified for its horrible CG/animation and ridiculousness. you’ll find it on the top of many list as “worst fight scene/cg scene in a major movie”. right behind The Scorpion King.
the highway scene was amazing, everyone will agree with that, but one scene does not make a movie. the Matrix Reloaded at best is an enjoyable action film, but not a good movie. The third matrix film though…. my god is that a pile of shit that made 2 even worse by association.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
what the hell are you talking about, the “wave of Smiths” fight is one of the most ridiculed/hated/laughed at scenes in cinema history. even on release that scene was crucified for its horrible CG/animation and ridiculousness. you’ll find it on the top of many list as “worst fight scene/cg scene in a major movie”. right behind The Scorpion King.
the highway scene was amazing, everyone will agree with that, but one scene does not make a movie. the Matrix Reloaded at best is an enjoyable action film, but not a good movie. The third matrix film though…. my god is that a pile of shit that made 2 even worse by association.
Oh please. The CGI wasnt great but it was still over the top spectacular and nice to watch.
Where is all the hate?
chromhound
Member
they should have use the Unreal Engine
Doczu
Member
Can you imagine this in glorious UE2 quality?
chromhound
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JCK75
Member
I really didn't like the second and third movie in the trilogy, but they were still fun to watch and had great action scenes.. I tried to watch resurrections last night. It felt like it was written in about 40 seconds and the effects were subpar even when compared to early YouTube fan films.. I already thought it was a growing franchise but after seeing this it just removes any doubt I may have had about that.
Dural
Member
I enjoyed 2 on my initial viewing of it, was excited for 3 with the ending of 2. I remember being on message boards speculating on what the ending of 2 meant and what would happen in 3. Then 3 came out and ruined the first two movies. I still enjoy aspects of 2, but 3 is the biggest piece of shit that shat on the two previous movies. I just pretend it doesn't exist.
Oh, and you can't forget one of the hottest women ever was in 2.
Oh, and you can't forget one of the hottest women ever was in 2.
Doczu
Member
Beautiful
So this is Neo's masterpiece which people loved for 18 years and the suits demanded a sequel that he made while being trapped in the Matrix? Man, talk about lownass standards.
Looks like one of those Rick and Morty episodes where Jerry was trapped in a super sub-par simulation and he really though people loved him
Looks like one of those Rick and Morty episodes where Jerry was trapped in a super sub-par simulation and he really though people loved him
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
After having an evening to sit on it, yeah. I really like this movie. It's precisely because it DIDN'T try to be a conventional sequel that I think I'm so taken with it. People were expecting Revolutions II, and they got The Path of Neo II, instead. No bullshit, I thought when "Bomb Mode," started at the end and all the blue pills started jumping out of windows they were all going to coagulate into Mecha Super Smith again. I mean, in retrospect, I'm glad this didn't happen, but that's how much of a PoN vibe I was getting.
It just strikes me as super cool, because in essence, this is a soft reboot, much in the same way as these maligned sequels mentioned in the OP, but in the context of the universe, it makes perfect sense. The Matrix has literally been rebooted. Where it shines, in my opinion, is what baggage it chooses to be beholden to, though. A generic sequel, say a hypothetical REVOLUTIONS 2 set right after Revolutions with Laurence Fishburne in ten pounds of makeup and CGI to kill off as many of the twenty years since last filming as Hollywood can manage, going to 01 to steal Neo's corpse or some shit. It would just be pounding the old tropes into the ground, having the same actors playing the same characters in the same world doing the same things, but not as revolutionary (ha), not as energetic, and not with as much meaning.
Having a sequel to *any* beloved property, let alone one as influential and referential as the original Matrix, is basically a coupon for free disappointment. This is a film franchise that introduced and normalized (to a lot of people) and affirmed and built up (to a smaller number of people) the dark, shame filled hobbies and interests in cyberpunk, anime, mecha, Kung fu, gun kata, philosophy, goth culture, Marilyn Manson's best album, Mechanical Animals, and dare I say it, even identity. The original film (and to a lesser extent, the original sequels) were a sacred cow to people absorbed in this genre. There was never anything quite like it, and there probably never will be again.
But what Resurrections did was stay beholden to a different set of "sequel rules," The characters were all there. The world was there. The past canon was there. Everything from the past had occurred in the film's canon, but this film wasn't a by the numbers sequel. It followed the ideas and themes first and foremost. As a piece of world building, as an epilogue, this film was everything it needed to be. So many ideas about identity, and what makes you *you* and nature vs. nurture, and learned helplessness subjugating what we're capable of and supposed to do. Everyone being plugged in, hoping for something better but afraid to lose the shit they have so they never move from their assembly line position. People plugged into the Matrix, stuck in their phones. Unknowing slaves literally subjecting themselves to slavery. All the meta talk with a bunch of nerd ass just out of college looking dudes talking about "what constitutes a Matrix title," all the while actual viewers of the film are yawning and tweeting about how there isn't enough action. Even the subtle nods to the previous canon. I can't be the only one who thinks Trinity shares some of Neo's power now because of the rooftop scene in Reloaded where he reaches his literal fucking hand in her chest and restarts her heart, thus imprinting some of the source code into her body, huh? What she was waiting for? Her next life, maybe?
If you don't like it, cool. I'm never one to say anyone's opinions are wrong, but I don't think you can say that the film didn't have a lot of interesting ideas. Script could have been better written, action could have been shot better, yeah. But I dig it.
It just strikes me as super cool, because in essence, this is a soft reboot, much in the same way as these maligned sequels mentioned in the OP, but in the context of the universe, it makes perfect sense. The Matrix has literally been rebooted. Where it shines, in my opinion, is what baggage it chooses to be beholden to, though. A generic sequel, say a hypothetical REVOLUTIONS 2 set right after Revolutions with Laurence Fishburne in ten pounds of makeup and CGI to kill off as many of the twenty years since last filming as Hollywood can manage, going to 01 to steal Neo's corpse or some shit. It would just be pounding the old tropes into the ground, having the same actors playing the same characters in the same world doing the same things, but not as revolutionary (ha), not as energetic, and not with as much meaning.
Having a sequel to *any* beloved property, let alone one as influential and referential as the original Matrix, is basically a coupon for free disappointment. This is a film franchise that introduced and normalized (to a lot of people) and affirmed and built up (to a smaller number of people) the dark, shame filled hobbies and interests in cyberpunk, anime, mecha, Kung fu, gun kata, philosophy, goth culture, Marilyn Manson's best album, Mechanical Animals, and dare I say it, even identity. The original film (and to a lesser extent, the original sequels) were a sacred cow to people absorbed in this genre. There was never anything quite like it, and there probably never will be again.
But what Resurrections did was stay beholden to a different set of "sequel rules," The characters were all there. The world was there. The past canon was there. Everything from the past had occurred in the film's canon, but this film wasn't a by the numbers sequel. It followed the ideas and themes first and foremost. As a piece of world building, as an epilogue, this film was everything it needed to be. So many ideas about identity, and what makes you *you* and nature vs. nurture, and learned helplessness subjugating what we're capable of and supposed to do. Everyone being plugged in, hoping for something better but afraid to lose the shit they have so they never move from their assembly line position. People plugged into the Matrix, stuck in their phones. Unknowing slaves literally subjecting themselves to slavery. All the meta talk with a bunch of nerd ass just out of college looking dudes talking about "what constitutes a Matrix title," all the while actual viewers of the film are yawning and tweeting about how there isn't enough action. Even the subtle nods to the previous canon. I can't be the only one who thinks Trinity shares some of Neo's power now because of the rooftop scene in Reloaded where he reaches his literal fucking hand in her chest and restarts her heart, thus imprinting some of the source code into her body, huh? What she was waiting for? Her next life, maybe?
If you don't like it, cool. I'm never one to say anyone's opinions are wrong, but I don't think you can say that the film didn't have a lot of interesting ideas. Script could have been better written, action could have been shot better, yeah. But I dig it.
Werewolf Jones
Member
The cycle of the current movie is the worst so the previous ones get elevated continues.
Great Hair
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next incoming stinker
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I was a teen and this was the radest shit I've seen. It did not look like cgi to me back then lol.what the hell are you talking about, the “wave of Smiths” fight is one of the most ridiculed/hated/laughed at scenes in cinema history. even on release that scene was crucified for its horrible CG/animation and ridiculousness. you’ll find it on the top of many list as “worst fight scene/cg scene in a major movie”. right behind The Scorpion King.
the highway scene was amazing, everyone will agree with that, but one scene does not make a movie. the Matrix Reloaded at best is an enjoyable action film, but not a good movie. The third matrix film though…. my god is that a pile of shit that made 2 even worse by association.
And seriously? scorpion king? like really ?!
ResilientBanana
Member
fuckin' terrible. Honestly this movie is what spawned most edge-lords. The first one was pretty good, but the rest were cheesy as hell. I watched them anyway, but by no means were any of them great movies. They were merely fun movies with next-gen special effects whose concepts withstood the test of time, but not so much the visuals.
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Ammogeddon
Member
Ruined now? Only the first one was any good.
Corpsepyre
Banned
No, because you still have the OG 1999 masterpiece, and there's nothing changing that. They're not trying to out-do what they did with the older films, or possibly can for that matter. Resurrections actually enriched Revolutions a lot more by its narrative decisions, in my opinion and ended on a note I really appreciated. For all its faults such as the action choreography and a slightly rushed third act, the film asked a number of important questions while also upscaling the lore and the world quite a bit. it's really commendable that this $150 million anti-blockbuster even got made, really.
There's a good video on some of the decisions Lana made in the film. Check this out.
There's a good video on some of the decisions Lana made in the film. Check this out.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
While watching the ,New Matrix i just couldnt over the fact that there really was no reason for it to exist, it does nothing better and everything worst retelling the same story
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
People keep saying the new one is bad but don’t say why. Could someone provide a bit more info? Just a bit to not spoil for folks
Cleared_Hot
Member
This movie was no where near as bad as so many of you are claiming. Ya'll don't even really articulate why it's bad, you just say it sucks and you're mad now. tlj was bad this was no where near that fucking dumb.
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Cleared_Hot
Member
My thoughts exactly, nobody is saying anything. I just watched it and thought it was good even if there are some things I was disappointed in.
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Cleared_Hot
Member
I'm with you dude. I liked it a lot and it's better after watching the ScreenCrush breakdown too
West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I watched it last night. The original Matrix is probably my favorite film ever and the subsequent sequels are also nice movies, despite their flaws. This was a strange one and I’m not sure I can really craft a definitive opinion on it yet until I have a re-watch or two. Much of it didn’t feel like a Matrix film. But then, maybe that’s the entire point . I can’t decide if it’s sneaky genius or a total misstep. My opinion right now, though, is trash.
ManaByte
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ManaByte
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That was referencing how WB was going to reboot Matrix with or without the Wachowskis with Michael B Jordan as Neo and being written by the guy who wrote Elektra and X-Men: The Last Stand. Then the Wachoski's parents died and Lana wanted to bring back Neo and Trinity as a coping mechanism, thus this movie.
Stop Motion Pornography
Member
While I liked Resurrections, I really hope that that's the last one. I kind of doubt it, though.