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Italia GAF |OT| La terra dei cachi

InPlosion

Member
Alla fine l'ho preso, il venditore mi ha pure detto "se prendi tutte e quattro le copie te le faccio pagare 10 euro l'una! Sono giochi vecchi tanto!"
Peccato non avevo 40 euro alla mano, altrimenti....
L'ho preso giusto per sfizio quasi, visto che il gameplay mi ricorda molto wow/mmo generico, roba che ho stragiocato su pc eoni addietro. Gli daro' una chance quest'estate, credo.
 

Axass

Member
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Poveri...
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Alla fine l'ho preso, il venditore mi ha pure detto "se prendi tutte e quattro le copie te le faccio pagare 10 euro l'una! Sono giochi vecchi tanto!"
Peccato non avevo 40 euro alla mano, altrimenti....
L'ho preso giusto per sfizio quasi, visto che il gameplay mi ricorda molto wow/mmo generico, roba che ho stragiocato su pc eoni addietro. Gli daro' una chance quest'estate, credo.

Mi mandi un PM per prenderlo?

Oppure ti mando 30€, due a me e una a te gratis? :)
 

Copons

Member
Just came back from a trip abroad and suddenly this became a day to check on any calendar everywhere.

The flight was almost completely full of Italians but, when we landed almost no one clapped.
(Well, there were a couple of scattered and shy claps, but immediately someone shouted something like "NO, TE PREGO")

I felt that today we, as a people, as a social consciousness, we grew up a little bit.

Maybe there is hope for us too.
 

Rikkun

Member
Just came back from a trip abroad and suddenly this became a day to check on any calendar everywhere.

The flight was almost completely full of Italians but, when we landed almost no one clapped.
(Well, there were a couple of scattered and shy claps, but immediately someone shouted something like "NO, TE PREGO")

I felt that today we, as a people, as a social consciousness, we grew up a little bit.

Maybe there is hope for us too.

LOL

NO DAJE TE PREGO

Only time I took an airplane was to go to Lourdes when I was 12 with my mother and grandma, I guess those people pray instead
 

Somax

Member
Reading around here in OT I noticed that we aren't the only country to have that annoying habit of clapping after landing.
It's more a latin country thing, apparently...

(even if I think clapping in a cinema is even worse. Who can hear your praise, for fuck sake?)
 

Copons

Member
Reading around here in OT I noticed that we aren't the only country to have that annoying habit of clapping after landing.
It's more a latin country thing, apparently...

(even if I think clapping in a cinema is even worse. Who can hear your praise, for fuck sake?)

Well I don't know about the extent of this problem, but I can at least understand those who claps in cinema.
I mean, it's a "I've appreciated the movie so much that I have to vent my amaze clapping before an empty screen" or "I'm hipsterily showing to the rest of the theater how much I loved the movie, look at me I'm so cool"
VS
"I'm cheering the pilot for being able to bring me home alive".
 
Ragazzi, finalmente, ho un colloquio telefonico martedi per lavorare di nuovo a Roma ! Dovrebbe andare bene, secondo me.


Sono felicissimo, sopratutto perché stavo pensando di tornare in Francia e di ritornare al mio ultimo lavoro.


Roma <3 <3
 

Rikkun

Member
Reading around here in OT I noticed that we aren't the only country to have that annoying habit of clapping after landing.
It's more a latin country thing, apparently...

(even if I think clapping in a cinema is even worse. Who can hear your praise, for fuck sake?)

They're both so stupid.
I don't think I ever had the urge of clapping after seeing a movie.
 
Grazie a voi :)

Ho mandato un paio di messagi, sto aspettando una risposta. Poi cerchero domani qualcosa verso l'EUR se non mi risponde prima...

L'unica cosa che mi dispiace è che non sarà più possibile mangiare delle piadine ogni giorno. :-(
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
^^^
Congrats 'Siccia!

Just came back from a trip abroad and suddenly this became a day to check on any calendar everywhere.

The flight was almost completely full of Italians but, when we landed almost no one clapped.
(Well, there were a couple of scattered and shy claps, but immediately someone shouted something like "NO, TE PREGO")

I felt that today we, as a people, as a social consciousness, we grew up a little bit.

Maybe there is hope for us too.

Most annoying thing ever.
The "no the prego" dude was probably my long lost twin :p well done, brother

In the meantime, Sister Cristina is the next Italian star/youtube worldwide (”Prestige.... Worlwide-IDE-ide-ide... PRESTIGE-IGE-ge... Worldwide!") phenomenon. Broke the 35M views barrier, apparently she's participating in a singing "talent" show similar to X-Factor, called The Voice (I doubt it has anything to do with Sinatra tho).
I wasn't disgusted while watching the video, I'm a bit ashamed to admit to myself that at times it even brought a lil' smile to my face. So there's that. I wonder how Whoopie "Sister Act" Goldberg would feel about her :p
 
Grazie Dash !

Ecco, stanza trovata, contratto firmato, adesso mi posso rilassare un attimo.

edit: holy shit @ Suor Cristina. She won't stay a virgin of god for much longer.
 

Rikkun

Member
Not touching that video with a ten feet pole, I don't like J-Ax and I hate with all my heart Federico Russo (they're both in the show and the first is her coach IIRC).
You're not getting my view and I'll keep on swearing.
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Never watched the show, the 35M video I've seen doesn't have this dude you're talking about tho, there's Pelu', Raffaella Carra' (lol). another female (dunno who her is) and J-AX (yeah he's an idiot I guess) but it's not like they do much.

In the meantime I found out that Whoopie Goldberg and Alicia Keys both tweeted about her (gist of it was like "she"s amazing"). Lol

I'm utterly disappointed nobody caught my reference to Prestige Worldwide :p
 

Rikkun

Member
Never watched the show, the 35M video I've seen doesn't have this dude you're talking about tho, there's Pelu', Raffaella Carra' (lol). another female (dunno who her is) and J-AX (yeah he's an idiot I guess) but it's not like they do much.

In the meantime I found out that Whoopie Goldberg and Alicia Keys both tweeted about her (gist of it was like "she"s amazing"). Lol
Russo is the host I guess.

I'm utterly disappointed nobody caught my reference to Prestige Worldwide :p

I don't know what you're talking about.

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Guys,

I'm not sure if there's an internet access in the appartment I'll be living in (it's empty at the moment) so I'd like to know:

- what ISP should I choose ? I had Infostrada in my old place, it was good enough. Anything better/cheaper ?
- Is it possible to get an access just for one month ? I might move to a cheaper place in may, so maybe I'd need that just for April.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Guys,

I'm not sure if there's an internet access in the appartment I'll be living in (it's empty at the moment) so I'd like to know:

- what ISP should I choose ? I had Infostrada in my old place, it was good enough. Anything better/cheaper ?
- Is it possible to get an access just for one month ? I might move to a cheaper place in may, so maybe I'd need that just for April.

I think the only sensible choices are either Telecom or Fastweb.

As far as i know everyone has to rent Telecom's cables anyway.

EDIT: Unless you've got Fiber coverage, i'm talking about adsl.

I've had Infostrada for a while and the service was beyond awful, i paid for 7mb, and barely got 1.5 on a constant basis.
Switched to Telecom for the same speed and it's not perfect, but much much better and more consistent.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Would it be possible to cancel after a month though ?

I doubt it, they seem to have all sorts of recession fees if you quit before 2 months, at least Telecom did when i made the contract.

I'm not sure, but they could have shorter plans available for specific cases like yours? Don't see anything of the sort from a very quick check on their site.

You could try and contact their support though.
 
I doubt it, they seem to have all sorts of recession fees if you quit before 2 months, at least Telecom did when i made the contract.

I'm not sure, but they could have shorter plans available for specific cases like yours? Don't see anything of the sort from a very quick check on their site.

You could try and contact their support though.

Grazie a te.

I'll ask around when I'm there.

I'll arrive in Rome sunday evening, start working monday morning :D
 
Thanks.

I'll definitely be coming back with some other questions in the next few weeks.

Like where I can play some calcetto. My roommates last year didn't give a shit about football, so I ended up not playing for 7 months.
 

Copons

Member
Guys,

I'm not sure if there's an internet access in the appartment I'll be living in (it's empty at the moment) so I'd like to know:

- what ISP should I choose ? I had Infostrada in my old place, it was good enough. Anything better/cheaper ?
- Is it possible to get an access just for one month ? I might move to a cheaper place in may, so maybe I'd need that just for April.


I don't know where you come from, but you're in for a huge treat!

Choosing an ISP in Italy is like playing Dark Souls with your character barehanded and your controller unplugged.

First thing first: forget about getting the speeds they advertise. They're - of course - the max speeds allowed by your connection, but the variables involved are usually all against the customer.
Even in big cities, switches are too few to handle the amount of people with a connection. So, even if you're lucky and you're apartment is right near a switch (also: there is no way to know it because: 1) there is no data available to examine; 2) your ISP could connect to a farther switch because reasons - and I'm one of these cases...), your speed could be just twarthed by the simple fact that too many connections are plugged to that same switch.

Also, forget about upload speed. 0.5 Kbps are the norm here, even for business plans.


BUT if you can get your hands on a fiber connection - and Rome is more or less 50% covered - you should be fine, even more because they cost the same as non-fiber.
I know for a fact that Fastweb fiber (here you can check if your address is covered: http://www.fastweb.it/AVT/ ) is really good, but I don't know anything about Vodafone and Telecom.

As per the fact that I'm on a Fastweb non-fiber at home (coverage stops at the building right next to mine, yay) and Telecom non-fiber at office, I can say that:

FASTWEB (at home)
1) promised 20Mbps, got 5Mbps top, because I live in a recently built overcrowded neighborhood served by a single old and far away switch (there is another one nearer, but the customer care doesn't give a fuck), and the connection decays too much before getting to my place;
2) my router (Fastweb gift, as until some years ago Fastweb forced to use their routers) is old and shitty, but they don't want to change it if it isn't broke, so hey, for me Fastweb sucks A LOT, but at least not as much as...

TELECOM (at work, so this is a business plan!)
1) overpriced shit, and I mean literally: they sent us bills with like 3x the price we had to pay, and we had to involve a lawyer to solve that shit;
2) promised 20Mbps, got 10Mbps, even though the office is like around the corner from our switch, in an undercrowded (is this a word?) area;
3) it has an erratic behaviour, like once a month our work day starts with a call to their customer service because we aren't online, they say "hey you're right!!! we're gonna fix it asap, our tech people will send you a text when they're going to start fixing your line!", then we wait 2 or 3 hours, the line is magically fixed and a couple of hours later we get their text telling us they're going to fix our line in the 24/48 hours. :D


So... yeah.

The best advice I could give you is: ditch the super-low-cost crappy ones (like, Tiscali, Tele2, and I don't know nowadays whichever else), and stay with the big ones (Fastweb, Telecom, Vodafone), because they sucks hard, but not as much as the crappy ones.
 
I don't know where you come from, but you're in for a huge treat!

Choosing an ISP in Italy is like playing Dark Souls with your character barehanded and your controller unplugged.

First thing first: forget about getting the speeds they advertise. They're - of course - the max speeds allowed by your connection, but the variables involved are usually all against the customer.
Even in big cities, switches are too few to handle the amount of people with a connection. So, even if you're lucky and you're apartment is right near a switch (also: there is no way to know it because: 1) there is no data available to examine; 2) your ISP could connect to a farther switch because reasons - and I'm one of these cases...), your speed could be just twarthed by the simple fact that too many connections are plugged to that same switch.

Also, forget about upload speed. 0.5 Kbps are the norm here, even for business plans.


BUT if you can get your hands on a fiber connection - and Rome is more or less 50% covered - you should be fine, even more because they cost the same as non-fiber.
I know for a fact that Fastweb fiber (here you can check if your address is covered: http://www.fastweb.it/AVT/ ) is really good, but I don't know anything about Vodafone and Telecom.

As per the fact that I'm on a Fastweb non-fiber at home (coverage stops at the building right next to mine, yay) and Telecom non-fiber at office, I can say that:

FASTWEB (at home)
1) promised 20Mbps, got 5Mbps top, because I live in a recently built overcrowded neighborhood served by a single old and far away switch (there is another one nearer, but the customer care doesn't give a fuck), and the connection decays too much before getting to my place;
2) my router (Fastweb gift, as until some years ago Fastweb forced to use their routers) is old and shitty, but they don't want to change it if it isn't broke, so hey, for me Fastweb sucks A LOT, but at least not as much as...

TELECOM (at work, so this is a business plan!)
1) overpriced shit, and I mean literally: they sent us bills with like 3x the price we had to pay, and we had to involve a lawyer to solve that shit;
2) promised 20Mbps, got 10Mbps, even though the office is like around the corner from our switch, in an undercrowded (is this a word?) area;
3) it has an erratic behaviour, like once a month our work day starts with a call to their customer service because we aren't online, they say "hey you're right!!! we're gonna fix it asap, our tech people will send you a text when they're going to start fixing your line!", then we wait 2 or 3 hours, the line is magically fixed and a couple of hours later we get their text telling us they're going to fix our line in the 24/48 hours. :D


So... yeah.

The best advice I could give you is: ditch the super-low-cost crappy ones (like, Tiscali, Tele2, and I don't know nowadays whichever else), and stay with the big ones (Fastweb, Telecom, Vodafone), because they sucks hard, but not as much as the crappy ones.

Thanks for all those infotmations :)
The area I'll be leaving in seems to get good coverage. In my old apartment, I got 1.5MB download speeds, and 100k upload. Which was great for what I needed.

I just have to know if I can easily cancel a subscription or not. I'm pretty sure I'll be moving away from San Paolo and closer to Magliana next month. And I wouldn't want that to be a problem, I can't afford to pay whatever they ask for if I cancel too early.

Also, I won't have a lease... Could it be a problem ?
 
Someone in this thread mentioned people clapping after a plane lands.

Yesterday, I was happpy to witness the "special ryanair double clap": first one upon landing, second wave when the music plays to announce that we landed on time.
 

gugi40

Member
As an Italian with a dual citizenship, I say Ciao!

And I will leave it at that, because I am the one Italian that can't speak my own language
My nonna is disappointed
....I promise I drink a lot of wine though.
 

Philippo

Member
Hello everyone!
I'm a 20-years old born and raised near Milan, currently staying in Venice for university (i'm studying Japanese at Ca' Foscari).
After 5 years of lurking i finally got to register, thank you based alicemail, so i just wanted to say hi to all my compatrioti.

Ci si vede in giro regà!

Guys,

I'm not sure if there's an internet access in the appartment I'll be living in (it's empty at the moment) so I'd like to know:

- what ISP should I choose ? I had Infostrada in my old place, it was good enough. Anything better/cheaper ?
- Is it possible to get an access just for one month ? I might move to a cheaper place in may, so maybe I'd need that just for April.

I don't know for short terms contracts like you ask(i'd suggest to simply get a usb key), but as a standard contract there's a new offer at Telecom called Smart: for 39€/month(29 if you're under-40 and pay through charge on your bank account) you get both Adsl with 7mb limit AND a cellphone number with 400minutes, 400texts and 2gb of 3g.
I think it's a very good deal, since other IPS charge 24/29€ only for the adsl, and phones plans usually costs 10/20€ a month by themselves.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Weren't we thinking of a new title for the OT? Did we drop the idea?

If that's the case, an appropriate one could be : ItaliaGAF |OT| Vinto l'appalto, il lavoro lo salto.
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Whatever you do, just stay the fuck away from Vodafone and Tiscali.
If they screw up with your bill (and they do that A LOT, especially the former) it'll be HELL getting your money back.

Also, I don't think you can get ADSL with Telecom unless you get a phone landline plan together with it?
If you plan on getting hooked up to SKY, you should look into their Home Premium deal with Fastweb.
 
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